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I never said it was okay.
yes you did - you said it is okay to murder "non-person" in a womb and even called it "responsible"
slaves weren't "persons" by the law.
Neither were Jews and some other categories of people.
Slaves had been born, and they were obviously people, it is just that the law was racist and backward back then. Not every law is right.
Nope. If abortion was murder, it would be illegal, and it isn't.
I hate the death penalty - but since it is legal in your country, I can't argue that it is murder. You find your way around by creating an argument to tear down the law.
Admit that abortion is not murder as per the law, but give reasons as to why you think the law is wrong. Otherwise we will get nowhere.
The term murder from a strictly legal standpoint, means the unlawful taking of life.
But murder also has and bears, a moral meaning- that is; the taking of "innocent" life.
Abortion from a moral and ethical standpoint is murder- but from a strictly legal one is not.
Think of slavery. It used to be legally allowable to own slaves- did that make it morally or ethically OK?
Slavery is a time everyone prefers to forget about. Yes, it was wrong, but stupidly, the law at the time stated that slaves were not people. Does that make it right to kill them? Of course not.
Does that make abortion okay? Not necessarily, but its the law.
comparing apples to armadillos..., what a fucking twit, if you liberal women did not fuck so much you wouldn't need your "abnormal growth" sucked out of your body.
explain why a man needs his asshole probed ?
like i said................, apples to armadillos
Soon as you explain why a woman needs a probe shoved inside her vagina.
don't LIE - nobody is shoving any probes anywhere
yes you did - you said it is okay to murder "non-person" in a womb and even called it "responsible"
slaves weren't "persons" by the law.
Neither were Jews and some other categories of people.
Slaves had been born, and they were obviously people, it is just that the law was racist and backward back then. Not every law is right.
being born did not make them either "people" or "persons" - by the LAW
Why do men think they know more about abortion than the people who have them?
An internal ultrasound is not necessary, and there is no medical reason why she needs to have one.
Force men to have a rectal exam before they get a prescription for Viagra, see how they howl the roof down then.
comparing apples to armadillos..., what a fucking twit, if you liberal women did not fuck so much you wouldn't need your "abnormal growth" sucked out of your body.
explain why a man needs his asshole probed ?
like i said................, apples to armadillos
Soon as you explain why a woman needs a probe shoved inside her vagina.
Slaves had been born, and they were obviously people, it is just that the law was racist and backward back then. Not every law is right.
being born did not make them either "people" or "persons" - by the LAW
Again, I never said that every law is right.
Soon as you explain why a woman needs a probe shoved inside her vagina.
don't LIE - nobody is shoving any probes anywhere
Then what is a transvaginal ultrasound, again?
How about you tell me what I should know during a time when my parents weren't fucking born, then?
If you don't know, then why did you make the comment?
Do you have any idea how stupid it is to say something retarded, then blame the people who point out how wrong you are for expecting you to be right?????????
I suspect I am meant to feel grateful for the Yanks saving my life before I even existed. I request to know what the hell you lot did that I should be grateful for.
Why do men think they know more about abortion than the people who have them?
speaking from experience ?
Soon as you explain why a woman needs a probe shoved inside her vagina.
don't LIE - nobody is shoving any probes anywhere
Then what is a transvaginal ultrasound, again?
...qualified person to perform, an ultrasound on the pregnant
woman using whichever transducer the woman chooses.
No person may require the pregnant woman to view the
ultrasound images or visualize any fetal heartbeat and no person, including the
pregnant woman, may be subject to any penalty if the pregnant woman declines to
view the images or visualize any heartbeat.
If you don't know, then why did you make the comment?
Do you have any idea how stupid it is to say something retarded, then blame the people who point out how wrong you are for expecting you to be right?????????
I suspect I am meant to feel grateful for the Yanks saving my life before I even existed. I request to know what the hell you lot did that I should be grateful for.
What you suspect and reality are not related one to the other.
My statement was a commentary on your statement about when Americans joined the effort...which was INCORRECT, and WRONG....and when you had that pointed out to you, you maintain we shouldn't expect you to know in the first place.
Keep your fucking mouth shut, if you don't know what you're yapping about. If your mother hasn't told you that by now, I'm telling you. It's one thing for people to suspect you're an idiot..but when you pull shit like this, there's absolutely no doubt whatever....
CaféAuLait;7404703 said:don't LIE - nobody is shoving any probes anywhere
Then what is a transvaginal ultrasound, again?
Why do you keep saying that? Here is the Wisconsin law (AGAIN). Why spread BS?
...qualified person to perform, an ultrasound on the pregnant
woman using whichever transducer the woman chooses.
No person may require the pregnant woman to view the
ultrasound images or visualize any fetal heartbeat and no person, including the
pregnant woman, may be subject to any penalty if the pregnant woman declines to
view the images or visualize any heartbeat.
https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2013/related/proposals/sb206
Noomi, you still haven't addressed the issue about how abortion subsidizes the black market baby rings where third world infants are ripped from their mothers arms to pay for wars...
Why is that?
CaféAuLait;7404703 said:Then what is a transvaginal ultrasound, again?
Why do you keep saying that? Here is the Wisconsin law (AGAIN). Why spread BS?
...qualified person to perform, an ultrasound on the pregnant
woman using whichever transducer the woman chooses.
No person may require the pregnant woman to view the
ultrasound images or visualize any fetal heartbeat and no person, including the
pregnant woman, may be subject to any penalty if the pregnant woman declines to
view the images or visualize any heartbeat.
https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2013/related/proposals/sb206
She already has an ultrasound before the abortion so there is no need for a law.
CaféAuLait;7404715 said:CaféAuLait;7404703 said:Why do you keep saying that? Here is the Wisconsin law (AGAIN). Why spread BS?
https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2013/related/proposals/sb206
She already has an ultrasound before the abortion so there is no need for a law.
So why are you insisting it is transvaginal, when the law clearly states it is NOT.
I suspect I am meant to feel grateful for the Yanks saving my life before I even existed. I request to know what the hell you lot did that I should be grateful for.
What you suspect and reality are not related one to the other.
My statement was a commentary on your statement about when Americans joined the effort...which was INCORRECT, and WRONG....and when you had that pointed out to you, you maintain we shouldn't expect you to know in the first place.
Keep your fucking mouth shut, if you don't know what you're yapping about. If your mother hasn't told you that by now, I'm telling you. It's one thing for people to suspect you're an idiot..but when you pull shit like this, there's absolutely no doubt whatever....
If I am wrong about something, I will admit it. But I have been told I am wrong, but haven't been told what I was wrong about. How can I admit that I was wrong if I don't know what you are talking about?
Noomi, you still haven't addressed the issue about how abortion subsidizes the black market baby rings where third world infants are ripped from their mothers arms to pay for wars...
Why is that?
Umm, what? I have no idea what you are talking about, sorry.
CaféAuLait;7404715 said:She already has an ultrasound before the abortion so there is no need for a law.
So why are you insisting it is transvaginal, when the law clearly states it is NOT.
The OP mentions it. The OP is obviously wrong, then.
