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With the 4th largest proven oil reserves what is Iran's need for "peaceful purposes" nuclear program

From the Iran agreement to which I earlier linked:

5. Based on its long-term plan, for 15 years, Iran will carry out its uranium enrichment-related activities, including safeguarded R&D exclusively in the Natanz Enrichment facility, keep its level of uranium enrichment at up to 3.67%, and, at Fordow, refrain from any uranium enrichment and uranium enrichment R&D and from keeping any nuclear material.

6. Iran will convert the Fordow facility into a nuclear, physics and technology centre. International collaboration including in the form of scientific joint partnerships will be established in agreed areas of research. 1044 IR-1 centrifuges in six cascades will remain in one wing at Fordow. Two of these cascades will spin without uranium and will be transitioned, including through appropriate infrastructure modification, for stable isotope production. The other four cascades with all associated infrastructure will remain idle. All other centrifuges and enrichment-related infrastructure will be removed and stored under IAEA continuous monitoring as specified in Annex I.



10. Iran will not produce or test natural uranium pellets, fuel pins or fuel assemblies, which are specifically designed for the support of the originally designed Arak reactor, designated by the IAEA as IR-40. Iran will store under IAEA continuous monitoring all existing natural uranium pellets and IR-40 fuel assemblies until the modernised Arak reactor becomes operational, at which point these natural uranium pellets and IR-40 fuel assemblies will be converted to UNH, or exchanged with an equivalent quantity of natural uranium. Iran will make the necessary technical modifications to the natural uranium fuel production process line that was intended to supply fuel for the IR-40 reactor design, such that it can be used for the fabrication of the fuel reloads for the modernised Arak reactor.

11. All spent fuel from the redesigned Arak reactor, regardless of its origin, for the lifetime of the reactor, will be shipped out of Iran to a mutually determined location in E3/EU+3 countries or third countries, for further treatment or disposition as provided for in relevant contracts to be concluded, consistent with national laws, with the recipient party, within one year from the unloading from the reactor or whenever deemed to be safe for transfer by the recipient country.

12. Iran will submit the DIQ of the redesigned reactor to the IAEA which will include information on the planned radio-isotope production and reactor operation programme. The reactor will be operated under IAEA monitoring.

13. Iran will operate the Fuel Manufacturing Plant only to produce fuel assemblies for light water reactors and reloads for the modernized Arak reactor.
 
The U.S. is by far the most dangerous violent nation on earth. Iran couldn't match its brutality if it tried. Yet is the U.S. gonna give up its Nukes anytime soon?

No one will give up nukes. They are the best deterrent out there.

The problem comes when a country decides they will use them instead of just threaten with them.

Iran has already stated many times that they will kill every Jew they can in Israel and we of course are still the great satan.

If you are so stupid as to think the religious jihadist supporting mullahs won't pull the trigger then there is no hope for you at all.

Why does Israel have Nukes? Seems to be a pretty big double standard going on. Several nations have Nuclear Weapons. Why not Iran? You have to see how Iran sees this.

I could give a shit how Iran see's anything.

The point you miss is that Iran would launch an attack against us if they thought they could get away with it. The mullahs are religious zealots and bat shit crazy to boot.

Israel has nukes but hasn't used them. Israel is a tiny country surrounded by enemies. If not for their nukes I'm sure they would have been attacked again by the Arabs.

Why does the U.S. feel it has the right to decide?

Jesus are you stupid. That's what being a super power is all about.

Doesn't make it right.
 
No one will give up nukes. They are the best deterrent out there.

The problem comes when a country decides they will use them instead of just threaten with them.

Iran has already stated many times that they will kill every Jew they can in Israel and we of course are still the great satan.

If you are so stupid as to think the religious jihadist supporting mullahs won't pull the trigger then there is no hope for you at all.

Why does Israel have Nukes? Seems to be a pretty big double standard going on. Several nations have Nuclear Weapons. Why not Iran? You have to see how Iran sees this.

I could give a shit how Iran see's anything.

The point you miss is that Iran would launch an attack against us if they thought they could get away with it. The mullahs are religious zealots and bat shit crazy to boot.

Israel has nukes but hasn't used them. Israel is a tiny country surrounded by enemies. If not for their nukes I'm sure they would have been attacked again by the Arabs.

israel routinely attacks those 'enemies'
how often does the opposite happen?

Israel retaliates against attacks made in their country. Suicide bombers, mortars and rockets. Israel has had to deal with them all. Of course they retaliate. We would too.
when is the last time a foreign nation attacked israel?

When is the last time terrorists attacked Israel?

Google is your friend. Look it up yourself.
 
No one will give up nukes. They are the best deterrent out there.

The problem comes when a country decides they will use them instead of just threaten with them.

Iran has already stated many times that they will kill every Jew they can in Israel and we of course are still the great satan.

If you are so stupid as to think the religious jihadist supporting mullahs won't pull the trigger then there is no hope for you at all.

Why does Israel have Nukes? Seems to be a pretty big double standard going on. Several nations have Nuclear Weapons. Why not Iran? You have to see how Iran sees this.

I could give a shit how Iran see's anything.

The point you miss is that Iran would launch an attack against us if they thought they could get away with it. The mullahs are religious zealots and bat shit crazy to boot.

Israel has nukes but hasn't used them. Israel is a tiny country surrounded by enemies. If not for their nukes I'm sure they would have been attacked again by the Arabs.

israel routinely attacks those 'enemies'
how often does the opposite happen?

Israel retaliates against attacks made in their country. Suicide bombers, mortars and rockets. Israel has had to deal with them all. Of course they retaliate. We would too.
when is the last time a foreign nation attacked israel?
1973
 
No one will give up nukes. They are the best deterrent out there.

The problem comes when a country decides they will use them instead of just threaten with them.

Iran has already stated many times that they will kill every Jew they can in Israel and we of course are still the great satan.

If you are so stupid as to think the religious jihadist supporting mullahs won't pull the trigger then there is no hope for you at all.

Why does Israel have Nukes? Seems to be a pretty big double standard going on. Several nations have Nuclear Weapons. Why not Iran? You have to see how Iran sees this.

I could give a shit how Iran see's anything.

The point you miss is that Iran would launch an attack against us if they thought they could get away with it. The mullahs are religious zealots and bat shit crazy to boot.

Israel has nukes but hasn't used them. Israel is a tiny country surrounded by enemies. If not for their nukes I'm sure they would have been attacked again by the Arabs.

israel routinely attacks those 'enemies'
how often does the opposite happen?

Israel retaliates against attacks made in their country. Suicide bombers, mortars and rockets. Israel has had to deal with them all. Of course they retaliate. We would too.
when is the last time a foreign nation attacked israel?
1973.

However, there have been virtually non-stop rocket attacks on Israel by proxies of Iran for decades.
 
No one will give up nukes. They are the best deterrent out there.

The problem comes when a country decides they will use them instead of just threaten with them.

Iran has already stated many times that they will kill every Jew they can in Israel and we of course are still the great satan.

If you are so stupid as to think the religious jihadist supporting mullahs won't pull the trigger then there is no hope for you at all.

Why does Israel have Nukes? Seems to be a pretty big double standard going on. Several nations have Nuclear Weapons. Why not Iran? You have to see how Iran sees this.

I could give a shit how Iran see's anything.

The point you miss is that Iran would launch an attack against us if they thought they could get away with it. The mullahs are religious zealots and bat shit crazy to boot.

Israel has nukes but hasn't used them. Israel is a tiny country surrounded by enemies. If not for their nukes I'm sure they would have been attacked again by the Arabs.

Why does the U.S. feel it has the right to decide?

Jesus are you stupid. That's what being a super power is all about.

Doesn't make it right.

Doesn't make it wrong either.
 
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Across the country, utilities are turning to natural gas to generate electricity, with 258 plants expected to be built from 2011 through 2015, federal statistics indicate.
Not only are gas-fired plants faster to build than reactors, they are much less expensive.
The U.S. Energy Information Administration says it costs about $978 per kilowatt of capacity to build and fuel a big gas-fired power plant, compared with $5,339 per kilowatt for a nuclear plant.
Cheap Natural Gas Unplugs U.S. Nuclear-Power Revival

So why does Iran with the world's largest supply of natural gas where it cost less then $1,000/kwh for gas when it costs
5 times that for nuclear?
AGAIN why then are they spending money for "nuclear" peaceful"????? Uranium is used for weapons!

 
Why is it our business?

Ask Paulitican.

He's the one who says Iran should have a nuke because other country's have nukes and he sees absolutely nothing wrong with Iran having a nuke.

Although I would like to see a decrease in nuclear arms around the world, Iran having one would assure they would never be invaded by the US.

Exactly. Iran would be crazy not to acquire Nuclear Weapons. They saw what happened right next door to em. If Hussein had Nuclear Weapons, there wouldn't have been a U.S. invasion. Strategically speaking, Iran needs Nuclear Weapons.

The US could easily say, 'So long as you don't attack anyone, we won't attack you.' And that would basically be it.
 
Why does Israel have Nukes? Seems to be a pretty big double standard going on. Several nations have Nuclear Weapons. Why not Iran? You have to see how Iran sees this.

I could give a shit how Iran see's anything.

The point you miss is that Iran would launch an attack against us if they thought they could get away with it. The mullahs are religious zealots and bat shit crazy to boot.

Israel has nukes but hasn't used them. Israel is a tiny country surrounded by enemies. If not for their nukes I'm sure they would have been attacked again by the Arabs.

israel routinely attacks those 'enemies'
how often does the opposite happen?

Israel retaliates against attacks made in their country. Suicide bombers, mortars and rockets. Israel has had to deal with them all. Of course they retaliate. We would too.
when is the last time a foreign nation attacked israel?
1973.

However, there have been virtually non-stop rocket attacks on Israel by proxies of Iran and Syria for decades.

Yep. You might want to pass that on to idiot Og something or other. LOL
 
Cheap Natural Gas Unplugs U.S. Nuclear-Power Revival
The U.S. nuclear industry seemed to be staging a comeback several years ago, with 15 power companies proposing as many as 29 new reactors. Today, only two projects are moving off the drawing board.

What killed the revival wasn't last year's nuclear accident in Japan, nor was it a soft economy that dented demand for electricity. Rather, a shale-gas boom flooded the U.S. market with cheap natural gas, offering utilities a cheaper, less risky alternative to nuclear technology.
It's killed off new coal and now it's killing off new nuclear," says David Crane, chief executive of NRG Energy Inc., a power-generation company based in Princeton, N.J. "Gas has come along at just the right time to upset everything."

Across the country, utilities are turning to natural gas to generate electricity, with 258 plants expected to be built from 2011 through 2015, federal statistics indicate.
Not only are gas-fired plants faster to build than reactors, they are much less expensive.
The U.S. Energy Information Administration says it costs about $978 per kilowatt of capacity to build and fuel a big gas-fired power plant, compared with $5,339 per kilowatt for a nuclear plant.
Cheap Natural Gas Unplugs U.S. Nuclear-Power Revival

So why does Iran with the world's largest supply of natural gas where it cost less then $1,000/kwh for gas when it costs
5 times that for nuclear?
AGAIN why then are they spending money for "nuclear" peaceful"????? Uranium is used for weapons!
And?
 
I say again, the OP has been answered. Now the topic starter is being obtuse.

Nuke electricity is cheaper than oil electricity. The oil you don't burn for electricity is oil that can be sold.

Simple.
 
Over 1,147 rockets were fired at Israel between November 14 and 20
In October, according to the Israel Security Agency's monthly summary,
Palestinians fired 116 rockets and 55 mortar shells at Israel in 92 separate attacks.
In September, according to the Israel Security Agency's monthly summary,
Palestinians fired 17 rockets and 8 mortar shells at Israel in 25 separate attacks.
In August, according to the Israel Security Agency's monthly summary, Palestinians fired 21 rockets and 3 mortar shells at Israel in 16 separate attacks
In just 4 months 154 rockets, 66 mortar attacks...
List of Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel, 2012 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
What purpose is Iran's nuclear program?

Under the deal, Iran will maintain the ability to enrich uranium but only for peaceful purposes.
Iran’s Nuclear Program - Bloomberg QuickTake

IRAN has the world's largest
proven oil reserves: 154.58B. Total oil supply in 2012 (thousand barrels per day): 3,538.4M
International sanctions have drastically impacted Iran’s energy sector – the country’s oil production fell dramatically in 2012, from over 35 million barrels per day in 2011 to just over 3.5 million bpd in 2012.

Top 10 Countries With The World’s Biggest Oil Reserves | GEAB

while oil and hydroelectricity accounted for 42 and 2 percent respectively.
It is estimated that some 18.5 percent of electricity generated in Iran are wasted before it reaches consumers due to technical problems.
Energy in Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So a simple mind like mine asks a simple question:
1) why is there ANY need for nuclear research for "peaceful purposes" if Iran as the 4th largest proven oil reserves.
2) Why is there any need to spend $100 billions on nuclear research when 18.5% of their electricity generated is wasted before it reaches consumers?

To me a simple minded person the only answer is : Nuclear weapons!

You smarter people on this forum then me explain why there is a need for "Peaceful purposes"
to do nuclear research from a country that wastes 18% of it's electricity and has 4th largest oil reserves?

Has any of the brilliant Obama intelligentsia answered that question?

Again my conclusion is nuclear weapons!
Why do you think any country should answer to you? After all, the US invaded a country under Republicans for no apparent reason. And an unstable Middle East is the price.
 
Cheap Natural Gas Unplugs U.S. Nuclear-Power Revival
The U.S. nuclear industry seemed to be staging a comeback several years ago, with 15 power companies proposing as many as 29 new reactors. Today, only two projects are moving off the drawing board.

What killed the revival wasn't last year's nuclear accident in Japan, nor was it a soft economy that dented demand for electricity. Rather, a shale-gas boom flooded the U.S. market with cheap natural gas, offering utilities a cheaper, less risky alternative to nuclear technology.
It's killed off new coal and now it's killing off new nuclear," says David Crane, chief executive of NRG Energy Inc., a power-generation company based in Princeton, N.J. "Gas has come along at just the right time to upset everything."

Across the country, utilities are turning to natural gas to generate electricity, with 258 plants expected to be built from 2011 through 2015, federal statistics indicate.
Not only are gas-fired plants faster to build than reactors, they are much less expensive.
The U.S. Energy Information Administration says it costs about $978 per kilowatt of capacity to build and fuel a big gas-fired power plant, compared with $5,339 per kilowatt for a nuclear plant.
Cheap Natural Gas Unplugs U.S. Nuclear-Power Revival

So why does Iran with the world's largest supply of natural gas where it cost less then $1,000/kwh for gas when it costs
5 times that for nuclear?
AGAIN why then are they spending money for "nuclear" peaceful"????? Uranium is used for weapons!
And?

So why with the largest natural gas supply in the world are they building nuclear power plants that cost 5 times to run then natural gas?
Then why aren't they using "thorium" instead of uranium if "peaceful purposes" then they wouldn't need uranium which is used for bombs!

Why is this so hard to comprehend?
Iran wants nuclear weapons.
They have a reason for using uranium as it is used for weapons....thorium is not!
If we believe they want to build at 5 times the cost nuclear power then restrict them to only "Thorium" development...not uranium!
That's pretty simple isn't it?
 
What purpose is Iran's nuclear program?

Under the deal, Iran will maintain the ability to enrich uranium but only for peaceful purposes.
Iran’s Nuclear Program - Bloomberg QuickTake

IRAN has the world's largest
proven oil reserves: 154.58B. Total oil supply in 2012 (thousand barrels per day): 3,538.4M
International sanctions have drastically impacted Iran’s energy sector – the country’s oil production fell dramatically in 2012, from over 35 million barrels per day in 2011 to just over 3.5 million bpd in 2012.

Top 10 Countries With The World’s Biggest Oil Reserves | GEAB

while oil and hydroelectricity accounted for 42 and 2 percent respectively.
It is estimated that some 18.5 percent of electricity generated in Iran are wasted before it reaches consumers due to technical problems.
Energy in Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So a simple mind like mine asks a simple question:
1) why is there ANY need for nuclear research for "peaceful purposes" if Iran as the 4th largest proven oil reserves.
2) Why is there any need to spend $100 billions on nuclear research when 18.5% of their electricity generated is wasted before it reaches consumers?

To me a simple minded person the only answer is : Nuclear weapons!

You smarter people on this forum then me explain why there is a need for "Peaceful purposes"
to do nuclear research from a country that wastes 18% of it's electricity and has 4th largest oil reserves?

Has any of the brilliant Obama intelligentsia answered that question?

Again my conclusion is nuclear weapons!
Why do you think any country should answer to you? After all, the US invaded a country under Republicans for no apparent reason. And an unstable Middle East is the price.

But we are getting ready to release to a declared TERRORIST STATE.. IRAN $100 billion with which these known terrorist funding country
will use to develop nuclear weapons. And you don't think that is a concern?
 
Tip for clueless wonders.....

Iran will never abide by the agreement.

The UN & US will have meetings and more meetings before they make more concessions in the name of "peace".

Hope that helped.
 
al qaeda and ISIS are American creations. Iran despises them. Next...

"Nuts!" to quote a famous American military commander

Facts matter

Iran despises al Qaeda and ISIS. They warned us not to intervene in Syria. ISIS was created by American, Saudi, and British Intelligence. It was created to kill Assad. Now Iran is forced to clean up our awful mess.


This has bridged into conspiracy territory.

This thread does NOT belong in the politics forum

OK then explain why Obama except for his "political legacy" is there a need for Iran to use uranium to build nuclear utilities when Iran as the world's largest reserves of natural gas and 4th largest oil...AND they inefficiently waste 18% of electricity they produce?
Why does Obama want Iran to have uranium ? Any other explanation???

Obama 'wants' Iran to have uranium? That's a new one. :rofl:

Again, a conspiracy...
 
I could give a shit how Iran see's anything.

The point you miss is that Iran would launch an attack against us if they thought they could get away with it. The mullahs are religious zealots and bat shit crazy to boot.

Israel has nukes but hasn't used them. Israel is a tiny country surrounded by enemies. If not for their nukes I'm sure they would have been attacked again by the Arabs.

israel routinely attacks those 'enemies'
how often does the opposite happen?

Israel retaliates against attacks made in their country. Suicide bombers, mortars and rockets. Israel has had to deal with them all. Of course they retaliate. We would too.
when is the last time a foreign nation attacked israel?
1973.

However, there have been virtually non-stop rocket attacks on Israel by proxies of Iran and Syria for decades.

Yep. You might want to pass that on to idiot Og something or other. LOL
Prior to the sanctions, Iran was funding terrorists. And yet Israel was not wiped off the map.

Iran has a buttload of nuclear weapons program downsizing to do before the sanctions are lifted. I listed them from the agreement earlier in this topic.

So if the sanctions are lifted, it will mean Iran has drastically reduced its nuclear weapons program. But you never hear this from the fearmongerers who pour your piss for you. They imply the sanctions will be lifted on Adoption Day. And that is a lie.

If Iran downsizes their nuclear weapons program enough to have the sanctions eased/lifted, and then starts ramping up its attacks on Israel by way of Hezbollah, we can impose/re-impose state-sponsor-of-terror sanctions unrelated to the nuclear agreement.
 
No one will give up nukes. They are the best deterrent out there.

The problem comes when a country decides they will use them instead of just threaten with them.

Iran has already stated many times that they will kill every Jew they can in Israel and we of course are still the great satan.

If you are so stupid as to think the religious jihadist supporting mullahs won't pull the trigger then there is no hope for you at all.

Why does Israel have Nukes? Seems to be a pretty big double standard going on. Several nations have Nuclear Weapons. Why not Iran? You have to see how Iran sees this.

I could give a shit how Iran see's anything.

The point you miss is that Iran would launch an attack against us if they thought they could get away with it. The mullahs are religious zealots and bat shit crazy to boot.

Israel has nukes but hasn't used them. Israel is a tiny country surrounded by enemies. If not for their nukes I'm sure they would have been attacked again by the Arabs.

israel routinely attacks those 'enemies'
how often does the opposite happen?

Israel retaliates against attacks made in their country. Suicide bombers, mortars and rockets. Israel has had to deal with them all. Of course they retaliate. We would too.
when is the last time a foreign nation attacked israel?

Over 1,147 rockets were fired at Israel between November 14 and 20
In October, according to the Israel Security Agency's monthly summary,
Palestinians fired 116 rockets and 55 mortar shells at Israel in 92 separate attacks.
In September, according to the Israel Security Agency's monthly summary,
Palestinians fired 17 rockets and 8 mortar shells at Israel in 25 separate attacks.
In August, according to the Israel Security Agency's monthly summary, Palestinians fired 21 rockets and 3 mortar shells at Israel in 16 separate attacks
In just 4 months 154 rockets, 66 mortar attacks...
List of Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel, 2012 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You can google the rest for yourself
 
More terms with which you all should familiarize yourselves:

Adoption Day is the date 90 days after the endorsement of this JCPOA by the UN Security Council, or such earlier date as may be determined by mutual consent of the JCPOA participants, at which time this JCPOA and the commitments in this JCPOA come into effect. Beginning on that date, JCPOA participants will make necessary arrangements and preparations for the implementation of their JCPOA commitments.

Implementation Day is the date on which, simultaneously with the IAEA report verifying implementation by Iran of the nuclear-related measures described in Sections 15.1. to 15.11 of Annex V, the EU and the United States take the actions described in Sections 16 and 17 of Annex V respectively and in accordance with the UN Security Council resolution, the actions described in Section 18 of Annex V occur at the UN level.
 

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