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not true, Hobie----the basic premise that the kosher food
rules are IDIOTIC and the putative Jesus would never have
followed such stupidity is a concept well ingrained in the peasant mind of the entire HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE since
Constantine


The kosher rules are idiotic without an understanding of the deeper implications only alluded to by the types of creatures listed as either clean or unclean that directly reflect the heights and depths of human potential.

one could say "idiotic" is thinking the messiah has already come but nothing changed.

just saying.


Doesn't it say in your own scriptures that when those who sleep in the dust of the earth awaken, many will be purified and refined, but the wicked will continue in wickedness and none of them will understand?

The only ones who thought that nothing changed were the ones who rejected a revelation from God and confused faith in tradition with obstinate stupidity, according to the story that is...

no ----it doesn't


"And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt." Daniel 12:2

"Many will be purged, purified and refined, but the wicked will act wickedly; and none of the wicked will understand, only those who have insight will understand." Daniel 12:10


Life has been like a game of musical chairs. Everyone is happily going around in circles dancing to the beat and sticking their tongues out at each other without a care. But when the music is over, many will have to face the fact that they don't have any place to sit.



611 Commandments...I’m waiting.
 
HEY!!! fellow joooos--------I NEED THE RECIPE FOR TRANSFORMATION OF BASE METALS TO GOLD-----
sheeeeeesh
All you have to do is get people to believe that God is edible and they'll buy anything.

You could call it transubstantiation, turning a matzo into the flesh of God.

We could make gazillions!
 
not true, Hobie----the basic premise that the kosher food
rules are IDIOTIC and the putative Jesus would never have
followed such stupidity is a concept well ingrained in the peasant mind of the entire HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE since
Constantine


The kosher rules are idiotic without an understanding of the deeper implications only alluded to by the types of creatures listed as either clean or unclean that directly reflect the heights and depths of human potential.

one could say "idiotic" is thinking the messiah has already come but nothing changed.

just saying.


Doesn't it say in your own scriptures that when those who sleep in the dust of the earth awaken, many will be purified and refined, but the wicked will continue in wickedness and none of them will understand?

The only ones who thought that nothing changed were the ones who rejected a revelation from God and confused faith in tradition with obstinate stupidity, according to the story that is...

no ----it doesn't


"And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt." Daniel 12:2

"Many will be purged, purified and refined, but the wicked will act wickedly; and none of the wicked will understand, only those who have insight will understand." Daniel 12:10


Life has been like a game of musical chairs. Everyone is happily going around in circles dancing to the beat and sticking their tongues out at each other without a care. But when the music is over, many will have to face the fact that they don't have any place to sit.



You do know Daniel was an Observant Jew.
 
The kosher rules are idiotic without an understanding of the deeper implications only alluded to by the types of creatures listed as either clean or unclean that directly reflect the heights and depths of human potential.

one could say "idiotic" is thinking the messiah has already come but nothing changed.

just saying.


Doesn't it say in your own scriptures that when those who sleep in the dust of the earth awaken, many will be purified and refined, but the wicked will continue in wickedness and none of them will understand?

The only ones who thought that nothing changed were the ones who rejected a revelation from God and confused faith in tradition with obstinate stupidity, according to the story that is...

no ----it doesn't


"And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt." Daniel 12:2

"Many will be purged, purified and refined, but the wicked will act wickedly; and none of the wicked will understand, only those who have insight will understand." Daniel 12:10


Life has been like a game of musical chairs. Everyone is happily going around in circles dancing to the beat and sticking their tongues out at each other without a care. But when the music is over, many will have to face the fact that they don't have any place to sit.



611 Commandments...I’m waiting.

I'm still waiting for you to acknowledge the deeper implications in the command to refrain from the flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate. Just this one commandment.

Until then you're on your own..
 
one could say "idiotic" is thinking the messiah has already come but nothing changed.

just saying.


Doesn't it say in your own scriptures that when those who sleep in the dust of the earth awaken, many will be purified and refined, but the wicked will continue in wickedness and none of them will understand?

The only ones who thought that nothing changed were the ones who rejected a revelation from God and confused faith in tradition with obstinate stupidity, according to the story that is...

no ----it doesn't


"And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt." Daniel 12:2

"Many will be purged, purified and refined, but the wicked will act wickedly; and none of the wicked will understand, only those who have insight will understand." Daniel 12:10


Life has been like a game of musical chairs. Everyone is happily going around in circles dancing to the beat and sticking their tongues out at each other without a care. But when the music is over, many will have to face the fact that they don't have any place to sit.



611 Commandments...I’m waiting.

I'm still waiting for you to acknowledge the deeper implications in the command to refrain from the flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate.

Until then you're on your own..

Ad hominem.
You made a claim.
 
Doesn't it say in your own scriptures that when those who sleep in the dust of the earth awaken, many will be purified and refined, but the wicked will continue in wickedness and none of them will understand?

The only ones who thought that nothing changed were the ones who rejected a revelation from God and confused faith in tradition with obstinate stupidity, according to the story that is...

no ----it doesn't


"And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt." Daniel 12:2

"Many will be purged, purified and refined, but the wicked will act wickedly; and none of the wicked will understand, only those who have insight will understand." Daniel 12:10


Life has been like a game of musical chairs. Everyone is happily going around in circles dancing to the beat and sticking their tongues out at each other without a care. But when the music is over, many will have to face the fact that they don't have any place to sit.



611 Commandments...I’m waiting.

I'm still waiting for you to acknowledge the deeper implications in the command to refrain from the flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate.

Until then you're on your own..

Ad hominem.
You made a claim.

Ad hominem? lol.


How could you possibly have taken what I said as a personal attack unless you already perceive the deeper implications and perceive yourself and your teaching as the subject of condemnation?

Careful there, you're coming undone. Someone might notice that you are being less than honest....
 
no ----it doesn't


"And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt." Daniel 12:2

"Many will be purged, purified and refined, but the wicked will act wickedly; and none of the wicked will understand, only those who have insight will understand." Daniel 12:10


Life has been like a game of musical chairs. Everyone is happily going around in circles dancing to the beat and sticking their tongues out at each other without a care. But when the music is over, many will have to face the fact that they don't have any place to sit.



611 Commandments...I’m waiting.

I'm still waiting for you to acknowledge the deeper implications in the command to refrain from the flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate.

Until then you're on your own..

Ad hominem.
You made a claim.

Ad hominem? lol.


How could you possibly have taken what I said as a personal attack unless you already perceive the deeper implications and perceive yourself as the subject of condemnation?

Careful there, your coming undone. Someone might notice that you are being less than honest....

Here’s the issue...
Saul, a Tanach ignoramous, wrote for ignoramouses.
You’re an ignoramous.
Paul is your hero.
End of story.
 
The kosher rules are idiotic without an understanding of the deeper implications only alluded to by the types of creatures listed as either clean or unclean that directly reflect the heights and depths of human potential.

one could say "idiotic" is thinking the messiah has already come but nothing changed.

just saying.


Doesn't it say in your own scriptures that when those who sleep in the dust of the earth awaken, many will be purified and refined, but the wicked will continue in wickedness and none of them will understand?

The only ones who thought that nothing changed were the ones who rejected a revelation from God and confused faith in tradition with obstinate stupidity, according to the story that is...

no ----it doesn't


"And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt." Daniel 12:2

"Many will be purged, purified and refined, but the wicked will act wickedly; and none of the wicked will understand, only those who have insight will understand." Daniel 12:10


Life has been like a game of musical chairs. Everyone is happily going around in circles dancing to the beat and sticking their tongues out at each other without a care. But when the music is over, many will have to face the fact that they don't have any place to sit.



You do know Daniel was an Observant Jew.


Facts confuse him.
 
one could say "idiotic" is thinking the messiah has already come but nothing changed.

just saying.


Doesn't it say in your own scriptures that when those who sleep in the dust of the earth awaken, many will be purified and refined, but the wicked will continue in wickedness and none of them will understand?

The only ones who thought that nothing changed were the ones who rejected a revelation from God and confused faith in tradition with obstinate stupidity, according to the story that is...

no ----it doesn't


"And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt." Daniel 12:2

"Many will be purged, purified and refined, but the wicked will act wickedly; and none of the wicked will understand, only those who have insight will understand." Daniel 12:10


Life has been like a game of musical chairs. Everyone is happily going around in circles dancing to the beat and sticking their tongues out at each other without a care. But when the music is over, many will have to face the fact that they don't have any place to sit.



You do know Daniel was an Observant Jew.


Facts confuse him.

He can’t be confused by something he’s never encountered.
 
Doesn't it say in your own scriptures that when those who sleep in the dust of the earth awaken, many will be purified and refined, but the wicked will continue in wickedness and none of them will understand?

The only ones who thought that nothing changed were the ones who rejected a revelation from God and confused faith in tradition with obstinate stupidity, according to the story that is...

no ----it doesn't


"And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt." Daniel 12:2

"Many will be purged, purified and refined, but the wicked will act wickedly; and none of the wicked will understand, only those who have insight will understand." Daniel 12:10


Life has been like a game of musical chairs. Everyone is happily going around in circles dancing to the beat and sticking their tongues out at each other without a care. But when the music is over, many will have to face the fact that they don't have any place to sit.



You do know Daniel was an Observant Jew.


Facts confuse him.

He can’t be confused by something he’s never encountered.


there is that.....
 
"And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt." Daniel 12:2

"Many will be purged, purified and refined, but the wicked will act wickedly; and none of the wicked will understand, only those who have insight will understand." Daniel 12:10


Life has been like a game of musical chairs. Everyone is happily going around in circles dancing to the beat and sticking their tongues out at each other without a care. But when the music is over, many will have to face the fact that they don't have any place to sit.



611 Commandments...I’m waiting.

I'm still waiting for you to acknowledge the deeper implications in the command to refrain from the flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate.

Until then you're on your own..

Ad hominem.
You made a claim.

Ad hominem? lol.


How could you possibly have taken what I said as a personal attack unless you already perceive the deeper implications and perceive yourself as the subject of condemnation?

Careful there, your coming undone. Someone might notice that you are being less than honest....

Here’s the issue...
Saul, a Tanach ignoramous, wrote for ignoramouses.
You’re an ignoramous.
Paul is your hero.
End of story.


Is there any real evidence----other than that self proclaimed
by Paul---that DA PHARISEES were going after his throat?
 
611 Commandments...I’m waiting.
I'm still waiting for you to acknowledge the deeper implications in the command to refrain from the flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate.

Until then you're on your own..
Ad hominem.
You made a claim.
Ad hominem? lol.


How could you possibly have taken what I said as a personal attack unless you already perceive the deeper implications and perceive yourself as the subject of condemnation?

Careful there, your coming undone. Someone might notice that you are being less than honest....
Here’s the issue...
Saul, a Tanach ignoramous, wrote for ignoramouses.
You’re an ignoramous.
Paul is your hero.
End of story.

Is there any real evidence----other than that self proclaimed
by Paul---that DA PHARISEES were going after his throat?
You want the real shpiel on what was going on?
Unlike other “religions”, Jews lay it on the line.
Not one bit of dirt is omitted from the Talmud on the goings on in either Temple.
Other “religions” are written for Hallmark TV watchers.
 
The kosher rules are idiotic without an understanding of the deeper implications only alluded to by the types of creatures listed as either clean or unclean that directly reflect the heights and depths of human potential.

one could say "idiotic" is thinking the messiah has already come but nothing changed.

just saying.


Doesn't it say in your own scriptures that when those who sleep in the dust of the earth awaken, many will be purified and refined, but the wicked will continue in wickedness and none of them will understand?

The only ones who thought that nothing changed were the ones who rejected a revelation from God and confused faith in tradition with obstinate stupidity, according to the story that is...

no ----it doesn't


"And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt." Daniel 12:2

"Many will be purged, purified and refined, but the wicked will act wickedly; and none of the wicked will understand, only those who have insight will understand." Daniel 12:10


Life has been like a game of musical chairs. Everyone is happily going around in circles dancing to the beat and sticking their tongues out at each other without a care. But when the music is over, many will have to face the fact that they don't have any place to sit.



You do know Daniel was an Observant Jew.


Christians love Daniel's mystical and BLURRY writings so much-----that they claim what he REALLY was----as a pre-Jesus Christian. Dante even puts him in paradise. ---
even Ezra does not get into paradise. The arcane verses of
Daniel can be interpreted ANY WAY THE CHURCH LIKES
 
I'm still waiting for you to acknowledge the deeper implications in the command to refrain from the flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate.

Until then you're on your own..
Ad hominem.
You made a claim.
Ad hominem? lol.


How could you possibly have taken what I said as a personal attack unless you already perceive the deeper implications and perceive yourself as the subject of condemnation?

Careful there, your coming undone. Someone might notice that you are being less than honest....
Here’s the issue...
Saul, a Tanach ignoramous, wrote for ignoramouses.
You’re an ignoramous.
Paul is your hero.
End of story.

Is there any real evidence----other than that self proclaimed
by Paul---that DA PHARISEES were going after his throat?
You want the real shpiel on what was going on?
Unlike other “religions”, Jews lay it on the line.
Not one bit of dirt is omitted from the Talmud on the goings on in either Temple.
Other “religions” are written for Hallmark TV watchers.

so true------anything on PAUL?
 
Ad hominem.
You made a claim.
Ad hominem? lol.


How could you possibly have taken what I said as a personal attack unless you already perceive the deeper implications and perceive yourself as the subject of condemnation?

Careful there, your coming undone. Someone might notice that you are being less than honest....
Here’s the issue...
Saul, a Tanach ignoramous, wrote for ignoramouses.
You’re an ignoramous.
Paul is your hero.
End of story.

Is there any real evidence----other than that self proclaimed
by Paul---that DA PHARISEES were going after his throat?
You want the real shpiel on what was going on?
Unlike other “religions”, Jews lay it on the line.
Not one bit of dirt is omitted from the Talmud on the goings on in either Temple.
Other “religions” are written for Hallmark TV watchers.

so true------anything on PAUL?
I got tons on McCartney.
 
one could say "idiotic" is thinking the messiah has already come but nothing changed.

just saying.


Doesn't it say in your own scriptures that when those who sleep in the dust of the earth awaken, many will be purified and refined, but the wicked will continue in wickedness and none of them will understand?

The only ones who thought that nothing changed were the ones who rejected a revelation from God and confused faith in tradition with obstinate stupidity, according to the story that is...

no ----it doesn't


"And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt." Daniel 12:2

"Many will be purged, purified and refined, but the wicked will act wickedly; and none of the wicked will understand, only those who have insight will understand." Daniel 12:10


Life has been like a game of musical chairs. Everyone is happily going around in circles dancing to the beat and sticking their tongues out at each other without a care. But when the music is over, many will have to face the fact that they don't have any place to sit.



You do know Daniel was an Observant Jew.


Christians love Daniel's mystical and BLURRY writings so much-----that they claim what he REALLY was----as a pre-Jesus Christian. Dante even puts him in paradise. ---
even Ezra does not get into paradise. The arcane verses of
Daniel can be interpreted ANY WAY THE CHURCH LIKES

The last chapter of Daniel is like reading in a fog while wearing Stevie Wonder sunglasses.
 
Doesn't it say in your own scriptures that when those who sleep in the dust of the earth awaken, many will be purified and refined, but the wicked will continue in wickedness and none of them will understand?

The only ones who thought that nothing changed were the ones who rejected a revelation from God and confused faith in tradition with obstinate stupidity, according to the story that is...

no ----it doesn't


"And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt." Daniel 12:2

"Many will be purged, purified and refined, but the wicked will act wickedly; and none of the wicked will understand, only those who have insight will understand." Daniel 12:10


Life has been like a game of musical chairs. Everyone is happily going around in circles dancing to the beat and sticking their tongues out at each other without a care. But when the music is over, many will have to face the fact that they don't have any place to sit.



You do know Daniel was an Observant Jew.


Christians love Daniel's mystical and BLURRY writings so much-----that they claim what he REALLY was----as a pre-Jesus Christian. Dante even puts him in paradise. ---
even Ezra does not get into paradise. The arcane verses of
Daniel can be interpreted ANY WAY THE CHURCH LIKES

The last chapter of Daniel is like reading in a fog while wearing Stevie Wonder sunglasses.



lol. You say you read the NT and it is incomprehensible nonsense.

Then you say "The last chapter of Daniel is like reading in a fog while wearing Stevie Wonder sunglasses."


It is truly inspiring to see the many wonderful things avoiding bacon and strapping a box on your head (every now and then) has done for you. :laughing0301:
 
HEY!!! fellow joooos--------I NEED THE RECIPE FOR TRANSFORMATION OF BASE METALS TO GOLD-----
sheeeeeesh
Gold is purified in a crucible of fire much like the soul is purified in the crucible of life.

Or don't you believe you have a soul?
 
HEY!!! fellow joooos--------I NEED THE RECIPE FOR TRANSFORMATION OF BASE METALS TO GOLD-----
sheeeeeesh
All you have to do is get people to believe that God is edible and they'll buy anything.

You could call it transubstantiation, turning a matzo into the flesh of God.

We could make gazillions!
You really are hung up on the bread from heaven.
 
no ----it doesn't


"And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt." Daniel 12:2

"Many will be purged, purified and refined, but the wicked will act wickedly; and none of the wicked will understand, only those who have insight will understand." Daniel 12:10


Life has been like a game of musical chairs. Everyone is happily going around in circles dancing to the beat and sticking their tongues out at each other without a care. But when the music is over, many will have to face the fact that they don't have any place to sit.



You do know Daniel was an Observant Jew.


Christians love Daniel's mystical and BLURRY writings so much-----that they claim what he REALLY was----as a pre-Jesus Christian. Dante even puts him in paradise. ---
even Ezra does not get into paradise. The arcane verses of
Daniel can be interpreted ANY WAY THE CHURCH LIKES

The last chapter of Daniel is like reading in a fog while wearing Stevie Wonder sunglasses.



lol. You say you read the NT and it is incomprehensible nonsense.

Then you say "The last chapter of Daniel is like reading in a fog while wearing Stevie Wonder sunglasses."


It is truly inspiring to see the many wonderful things avoiding bacon and strapping a box on your head (every now and then) has done for you. :laughing0301:

Wisdom is not given to just any jackanape.
 

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