Would the dems ever win?

You and others on the right need to get over this ‘liberal media’ nonsense, and face the fact that the majority of the voters rejected a GOP agenda predicated on hate and ignorance.

Republicans must realize that their failure stems not from the ‘liberal media,’ the myth of voter ‘fraud,’ or ‘uninformed’ voters, but from their very policies and actions.

Stop looking to cast blame elsewhere and assume personal responsibility for a change.

I know it serves your purposes to believe that the biased media had nothing to do with obama winning, but you are wrong about that.

when a large % of voters get their news from SNL and MTV there is no way they were voting based on facts. when 80% of the media is an arm of the dem party, there is no way the low information voters had access to the truth about the candidates.

these are facts, you can ignore them if it makes you feel good.

Nonsense, you’ve provided no evidence as to these ‘facts.’

All the news organizations do is turn on the camera, it’s when a republican starts talking the GOP is in trouble.

yeah, I guess holding obama accountable for his actions is a terrible thing to do. Blind hero worship is much better :cuckoo:
 
The only really dishonest media filled with outright lies is Fox.

Not so, though it pains me to say it. Fox is the worst of the worst on TV.

thats just ridiculous, whats wrong with giving equal time to both sides?

Non sequitur (look it up).

On your disconnected note, I agree that each side should give some serious, if not equal, time to the other side. It should be voluntary, though.
 
Exactly the point of the thread, IF we had an honest media would dems win elections. IF the media truly vetted all candidates equally would obama have won?

the typical liberal response is evident in the earlier posts, attack the messenger and denigrate anyone who does not worship at the feet of chairman maobama

Tell you what, you provide some proof to support the claim made in your OP, them we'll talk.

As it is, it's just so much crying on your part with nothing to back it up.

softball interviews of obama by 60 minutes
editing the Zimmerman tape to make him appear racist
not covering stories where citizens save their lives using guns
over covering stories like aurora
lying about the Giffords shooter being a conservative
not covering the LA cop killer being a liberal

there are 6 for you, now its your turn. provide 6 distortions or lies put out by Fox

Every softball interview of a conservative/Republican that Sean Hannity has ever done.

Editing the Benghazi testimony by Panetta to make it sound like Obama wasn't informed.

You'll have to prove the rest of your accusations.
 
The only really dishonest media filled with outright lies is Fox.

Not so, though it pains me to say it. Fox is the worst of the worst on TV.

thats just ridiculous, whats wrong with giving equal time to both sides?

So you think 50% of political talk radio should be devoted to advocating for liberal views?

How would you mandate that? A doctrine, perhaps,

involving 'fairness'?
 
Not so, though it pains me to say it. Fox is the worst of the worst on TV.

thats just ridiculous, whats wrong with giving equal time to both sides?

So you think 50% of political talk radio should be devoted to advocating for liberal views?

How would you mandate that? A doctrine, perhaps,

involving 'fairness'?

No, there should be no mandates. A national media should be unbiased. I am not naive enough to think that could ever happen or has ever been such in the past.

what I object to is the blatant bias of much of the current national media.

You can claim that the bias is equal with an equal number of liberal and conservative outlets, but the facts refute that claim. The left controls the majority of the media, and yet those on the left must continually denigrate Fox, Rush, etc for presenting the opposing views.
 
You can claim that the bias is equal with an equal number of liberal and conservative outlets, but the facts refute that claim. The left controls the majority of the media, and yet those on the left must continually denigrate Fox, Rush, etc for presenting the opposing views.

No it doesn't. There are more conservatives appearing on mass media than liberals - this has been documented. This is another Fox lie.

We denigrate Fox because the lie - about everything. People who watch Fox as their main source of news, know LESS about what happened than people who don't watch news. Fox doesn't present the news accurately. Fox told you that Romney would win in a landslide and that the polls were skewed liberal - they lied.
 
You can claim that the bias is equal with an equal number of liberal and conservative outlets, but the facts refute that claim. The left controls the majority of the media, and yet those on the left must continually denigrate Fox, Rush, etc for presenting the opposing views.

No it doesn't. There are more conservatives appearing on mass media than liberals - this has been documented. This is another Fox lie.

We denigrate Fox because the lie - about everything. People who watch Fox as their main source of news, know LESS about what happened than people who don't watch news. Fox doesn't present the news accurately. Fox told you that Romney would win in a landslide and that the polls were skewed liberal - they lied.

Morris and Rove were wrong on the election, they probably helped elect obama by claiming that Romney was going to win. Many GOP voters probably stayed home because those clowns read the polls wrong.

But you keep claiming Fox lies. please provide a documented list of their lies. misreading polls is not lying.

give us a list of Fox lies or shut up and admit that you are nothing but a partisan parrot.
 
Exactly the point of the thread, IF we had an honest media would dems win elections. IF the media truly vetted all candidates equally would obama have won?

the typical liberal response is evident in the earlier posts, attack the messenger and denigrate anyone who does not worship at the feet of chairman maobama

Tell you what, you provide some proof to support the claim made in your OP, them we'll talk.

As it is, it's just so much crying on your part with nothing to back it up.

softball interviews of obama by 60 minutes
editing the Zimmerman tape to make him appear racist
not covering stories where citizens save their lives using guns
over covering stories like aurora
lying about the Giffords shooter being a conservative
not covering the LA cop killer being a liberal

there are 6 for you, now its your turn. provide 6 distortions or lies put out by Fox

All of the above are subjective, unsubstantiated, or both – and none manifest ‘proof’ that the media have a ‘liberal bias’ or are ‘anti-republican.’

The problem conservatives have with ‘the media’ is that news organizations, although far from perfect, are for the most part successful in relating accurate, truthful accounts of world events that conflict with rightist dogma.

Feel free to blame ‘the media’ when they get something wrong, or be critical of a particular journalist who exhibits political bias, but it’s ignorant partisan idiocy to suggest that ‘the media’ en mass are out to get conservatives or make republicans look bad as part of some sort of conspiracy.
 
You can claim that the bias is equal with an equal number of liberal and conservative outlets, but the facts refute that claim. The left controls the majority of the media, and yet those on the left must continually denigrate Fox, Rush, etc for presenting the opposing views.

No it doesn't. There are more conservatives appearing on mass media than liberals - this has been documented. This is another Fox lie.

We denigrate Fox because the lie - about everything. People who watch Fox as their main source of news, know LESS about what happened than people who don't watch news. Fox doesn't present the news accurately. Fox told you that Romney would win in a landslide and that the polls were skewed liberal - they lied.

Who cares? In the end those in the democrat party has successfully demonized those who attack them to the point that people simply tune them out. Someone like Glenn Beck could unveil the most dastardly conspiracy known to man and no one would give a damn.....except his little group of followers.
 
Tell you what, you provide some proof to support the claim made in your OP, them we'll talk.

As it is, it's just so much crying on your part with nothing to back it up.

softball interviews of obama by 60 minutes
editing the Zimmerman tape to make him appear racist
not covering stories where citizens save their lives using guns
over covering stories like aurora
lying about the Giffords shooter being a conservative
not covering the LA cop killer being a liberal

there are 6 for you, now its your turn. provide 6 distortions or lies put out by Fox

All of the above are subjective, unsubstantiated, or both – and none manifest ‘proof’ that the media have a ‘liberal bias’ or are ‘anti-republican.’

The problem conservatives have with ‘the media’ is that news organizations, although far from perfect, are for the most part successful in relating accurate, truthful accounts of world events that conflict with rightist dogma.

Feel free to blame ‘the media’ when they get something wrong, or be critical of a particular journalist who exhibits political bias, but it’s ignorant partisan idiocy to suggest that ‘the media’ en mass are out to get conservatives or make republicans look bad as part of some sort of conspiracy.

you are wrong, please see post #112
 
The Democrats won with Foxnews as the most watched cable news network, with talk radio almost entirely dominated by rightwing propaganda, and with a vast proliferation of rightwing propaganda sites on the internet.

The better question is, why does the GOP ever lose?

The Republican Party loses because despite the lies of Rush Limbaugh

Google

and those of FOX News

Google

most Americans realize that economic policies that benefit the rich do not benefit them.
 
The Democrats won with Foxnews as the most watched cable news network, with talk radio almost entirely dominated by rightwing propaganda, and with a vast proliferation of rightwing propaganda sites on the internet.

The better question is, why does the GOP ever lose?

The Republican Party loses because despite the lies of Rush Limbaugh

Google

and those of FOX News

Google

most Americans realize that economic policies that benefit the rich do not benefit them.

horseshit !. the following dems are rich and have legislated to make themselves richer--pelois, reid, kerry, gore, clinton, obama, rangel, schumer, durbin, kennedy, hillary, franken.

to claim that only republicans are rich and legislate for the rich is simply naive.
 
Friends claimed "most Americans realize that economic policies that benefit the rich do not benefit them", not what Redfish claimed Friends wrote: "that only republicans are rich and legislate for the rich is simply naive." What a stupid-type of fauxnews lie!
 
Friends claimed "most Americans realize that economic policies that benefit the rich do not benefit them", not what Redfish claimed Friends wrote: "that only republicans are rich and legislate for the rich is simply naive." What a stupid-type of fauxnews lie!

Nope, I quoted the intent of his comment and you know it. He was trying to make the case that republicans only do things to help the evil rich. I merely pointed out that that is not true.
 

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