Would the dems ever win?

[Redfish]

The Democrats won with Foxnews as the most watched cable news network, with talk radio almost entirely dominated by rightwing propaganda, and with a vast proliferation of rightwing propaganda sites on the internet.

The better question is, why does the GOP ever lose?

Not enough people getting entitlements.

said another way, they are not as good as the dems at buying votes.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You have to give evidence of what you assert before I can respond to your claim.

If you can't give evidence, then your brain cells should not be here.

 

[Redfish]

You have to give evidence of what you assert before I can respond to your claim.

If you can't give evidence, then your brain cells should not be here.

OK, lets play your silly game:

obamacare
more people on welfare than ever before
more people on foodstamps than ever before
more national debt than ever before
higher annual deficits than ever before
more govt employees than ever before
govt salaries higher than private sector salaries
more govt regulations than ever before
no federal budget bill for over 4 years

thats the USA today.

Now, look at the history of the european countries over the last 50 years------its virtually the same.

 

[Dragonlady]

The ACA is NOTHING like the NHS in Great Britain. The NHS is a single payer government funded system. There is no similarlity at all.

And for your information, social democracies are alive and well all over Europe. France, Spain, Greece and Italy have issues, but that four countries out of forty-seven. Then there's Canada, Japan, and others.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The ACA is NOTHING like the NHS in Great Britain. The NHS is a single payer government funded system. There is no similarlity at all.

And for your information, social democracies are alive and well all over Europe. France, Spain, Greece and Italy have issues, but that four countries out of forty-seven. Then there's Canada, Japan, and others.

This is what the reactionaries don't understand. Words have defined meanings, and so do systems and how they operated.

more people on welfare than ever before Bush caused Recession
more people on foodstamps than ever before Bush caused Recession
more national debt than ever before Bush caused Recession and poor choices by Dems
higher annual deficits than ever before we have to pay for what Bush GOP and BHO dems have spentmore govt employees than ever before
govt salaries higher than private sector salaries not socialism
more govt regulations than ever before before what? The New Deal, the Great Society, HSA? Before what
no federal budget bill for over 4 years both parties are at fault

And none of which is socialism, innit?

Shut up or put up, Redfish. Give us examples and proof of what you say is "American socialism in the European model."

 

[bripat9643]

Romeny was defeated by conservative and libertarian voters who stayed home. The so-called 'far right' is a tiny group of idiots that live in the woods and eat tree bark. Obama won because his racial and left wing bases came out to vote---but in smaller numbers than in 08

Nonsense. The reactionary and libertarian haters scared off sensible America.

How is it being a "hater" to want our government to follow the constitution? how is it being a "hater" to want the govt to control spending? how is it being a "hater" to be opposed to a president who is taking us down the path to failed european socialism?

Liberal Dictionary
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Hate speech - truth

 

[Redfish]

The ACA is NOTHING like the NHS in Great Britain. The NHS is a single payer government funded system. There is no similarlity at all.

And for your information, social democracies are alive and well all over Europe. France, Spain, Greece and Italy have issues, but that four countries out of forty-seven. Then there's Canada, Japan, and others.

Obamacare will become a single payer system in a very short time. That was the goal all along.

what the hell is a social democracy? socialist democracy???? WTF are you talking about? The entire continent of europe has fiscal problems, their socialism is failing. Japan had the "lost decade" due to its attempts at socialism. Canada's medical system is terrible.

its amazing how you liberals cannot see beyond your socialist rose colored glasses.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The ACA is NOTHING like the NHS in Great Britain. The NHS is a single payer government funded system. There is no similarlity at all.

And for your information, social democracies are alive and well all over Europe. France, Spain, Greece and Italy have issues, but that four countries out of forty-seven. Then there's Canada, Japan, and others.

Obamacare will become a single payer system in a very short time. That was the goal all along.

what the hell is a social democracy? socialist democracy???? WTF are you talking about? The entire continent of europe has fiscal problems, their socialism is failing. Japan had the "lost decade" due to its attempts at socialism. Canada's medical system is terrible.

its amazing how you liberals cannot see beyond your socialist rose colored glasses.

All you are doing is making unsupported assertions.

 

[Redfish]

The ACA is NOTHING like the NHS in Great Britain. The NHS is a single payer government funded system. There is no similarlity at all.

And for your information, social democracies are alive and well all over Europe. France, Spain, Greece and Italy have issues, but that four countries out of forty-seven. Then there's Canada, Japan, and others.

Obamacare will become a single payer system in a very short time. That was the goal all along.

what the hell is a social democracy? socialist democracy???? WTF are you talking about? The entire continent of europe has fiscal problems, their socialism is failing. Japan had the "lost decade" due to its attempts at socialism. Canada's medical system is terrible.

its amazing how you liberals cannot see beyond your socialist rose colored glasses.

All you are doing is making unsupported assertions.

and I suppose that your assertions are supported????

which assertion are you addressing? that the ultimate goal of obamacare is single govt payer? of cours it is. obama himself said it several times. the plan is to put the insurance companies out of business by making the fine cheaper than buying a policy, then when there are no alternatives the govt can tax the shit out of all of us to pay for a crappy govt run medical system.

But fear not, it will be "fair" and "equal". It will suck for everyone------except congress, the administration, unions, and others who voted for obama.

If you can't see the corruption in this, then there is no hope for you

 

[JakeStarkey]

No, what you say is not "evidence" only your "assertion" about things.

You cannot be believed on your understanding of the situation, because you are so biased. Post the evidence.

 

[Dragonlady]

As a Canadian, I find your assertion that the Canadian medical system is terrible to be a joke. 80% of Canadians are satisfied with their experiences with the Canadian medical system. Every one of my American friends who has experienced our medical system, either as a student or a tourist, has marvelled at how amazingly caring and efficient it is and has said that if Americans knew what the Canadian system was really like, they'd demand one just like it.

 

[rightwinger]

How is it being a "hater" to want our government to follow the constitution? how is it being a "hater" to want the govt to control spending? how is it being a "hater" to be opposed to a president who is taking us down the path to failed european socialism?

The screaming, the yelling, the chants of Nazi and Socialist and Marxist and Kenyan and Muslim all remind the sensible part of America of the KKK and the Aryan Brotherhood and the militia nuts. The bolded above is proof positive that makes people afraid of your vapid chanting.

Do you deny that the USA is moving towards the form of socialism displayed in Europe?

what is obamacare but the NHS of the UK with a new name?

what are welfare and foodstamps but the guaranteed income programs that crashed Greece?

Obamacare is not even close to the nationalized healthcare in the UK

What would make you claim that?

 

[EriktheRed]

The screaming, the yelling, the chants of Nazi and Socialist and Marxist and Kenyan and Muslim all remind the sensible part of America of the KKK and the Aryan Brotherhood and the militia nuts. The bolded above is proof positive that makes people afraid of your vapid chanting.

Do you deny that the USA is moving towards the form of socialism displayed in Europe?

what is obamacare but the NHS of the UK with a new name?

what are welfare and foodstamps but the guaranteed income programs that crashed Greece?

Obamacare is not even close to the nationalized healthcare in the UK

What would make you claim that?

Because these morons believe anything with even slight government control is tantamount to Stalinism, I guess.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Give the reactionaries control of the government, and we will all be under their collective thumb.

 

[Redfish]

The screaming, the yelling, the chants of Nazi and Socialist and Marxist and Kenyan and Muslim all remind the sensible part of America of the KKK and the Aryan Brotherhood and the militia nuts. The bolded above is proof positive that makes people afraid of your vapid chanting.

Do you deny that the USA is moving towards the form of socialism displayed in Europe?

what is obamacare but the NHS of the UK with a new name?

what are welfare and foodstamps but the guaranteed income programs that crashed Greece?

Obamacare is not even close to the nationalized healthcare in the UK

What would make you claim that?

not yet, but that is the ultimate goal--one payer, govt run healthcare

 

[Redfish]

As a Canadian, I find your assertion that the Canadian medical system is terrible to be a joke. 80% of Canadians are satisfied with their experiences with the Canadian medical system. Every one of my American friends who has experienced our medical system, either as a student or a tourist, has marvelled at how amazingly caring and efficient it is and has said that if Americans knew what the Canadian system was really like, they'd demand one just like it.

funny, I guess all my canadian friends are in the 20%

 

[rightwinger]

Do you deny that the USA is moving towards the form of socialism displayed in Europe?

what is obamacare but the NHS of the UK with a new name?

what are welfare and foodstamps but the guaranteed income programs that crashed Greece?

Obamacare is not even close to the nationalized healthcare in the UK

What would make you claim that?

not yet, but that is the ultimate goal--one payer, govt run healthcare

So it isn't but in your twisted mind it is

Got it

 

[Redfish]

Give the reactionaries control of the government, and we will all be under their collective thumb.

the reactionaries are currently in control of the government, and the collective thumb is pressing down harder every day.

are you blind?

 

[rightwinger]

As a Canadian, I find your assertion that the Canadian medical system is terrible to be a joke. 80% of Canadians are satisfied with their experiences with the Canadian medical system. Every one of my American friends who has experienced our medical system, either as a student or a tourist, has marvelled at how amazingly caring and efficient it is and has said that if Americans knew what the Canadian system was really like, they'd demand one just like it.

funny, I guess all my canadian friends are in the 20%

Oddly, I don't see Canadians clamoring for a healthcare system like the US

 

[Redfish]

Obamacare is not even close to the nationalized healthcare in the UK

What would make you claim that?

not yet, but that is the ultimate goal--one payer, govt run healthcare

So it isn't but in your twisted mind it is

Got it

not my mind, but obama's. he has said several times that he favors a one payer system. Once obamacare drives the insurance companies out of business, thats what we will have----that was the liberal plan all along.