Would you support a war on Islam?

[LoneLaugher]

Christendom? What a creepy fucking reality you live in.

Yes, Christendom.

And, I'm sure it's "creepy" to those whom (1) are atheist in nature and (2) are loath to acknowledge and respect their own culture's spiritual heritage.

It doesn't change the facts, though.

There's no harm or loss in being atheist or agnostic.

But there is harm (or loss) in failing to acknowledge or respect their own culture's spiritual heritage.

If you are largely of European descent then you are the product of Christian Europe - the nucleus or root of 'Christendom', since that shifted from the Middle East, in the opening centuries of the Christian Era.

Hell, even your calendar measures the years according to their distance from the birth of the Founder of Christianity; a measuring scheme so pervasive that even non-Christian regions have adopted it, although we now play games in substituting BCE (Before Common Era) instead of BC (Before Christ), and CE (Common Era) for AD (Anno Domini, [The Year of Our Lord])... doubly reinforced by the advent of computer technology, and the Christian calendar being so deeply embedded within the world's automation.

In the modern sense, Christendom is the collection of regions and countries, worldwide, including the vastness of Russia, which is primarily Christian in its present-day subscription to religious beliefs and in its historical religious and spiritual heritage.

People refer to the domains of Islam all the time.

References to Christendom (i.e., the modern, secularized West - including Europe, the Russias, the entire Western Hemisphere, and much of Oceania) are equally valid.

Merely a counterweight reference to Islam at large.

Your atheist twitchings about living within the vastness of Christendom (the modern, secularized West, with a Christian-centric focus and tradition) are of little significance, although I'm sure that it's a little uneasy from time to time, being on the outside, looking in.

Creepy and weird.

Glad you liked it... always happy to explain things to folks who have lost their way and have forgotten their roots.

You don't have to be a Believer in a godhead, to acknowledge that you live within the domain of a particular Belief System, even if that domain has been largely secularized over the past couple of centuries.

Secularized. That's right. The kind of backward thinking that led to a term like "Christendom" being developed is in our rear view mirror. This ain't Christendom.

 

[Discombobulated]

No need to justify your answer if you don't want to. Would you support a war...a crusade against Islam and the killer muslims. Would you support a forced exodus and travel restrictions to the West?

Personally I would. Perhaps starting by exiling or imprisoning all family members of a known terrorist to a backwards ME nation.

Another supporter of Muslim extremists, the terrorists should thank you for spreading their message for them.

How am I supporting killer muslims? I advocate a total war against Islam. I am down for re-education camps and nuclear war to end the scourge.

You advocate exactly the reaction the terrorists are hoping for. You are obviously very busy spreading the message of Jihad.

The reaction the terrorists are looking for is for you to do nothing, and to let them spread their backwards ass religion. To the point of you either converting and kneeling to their false god, or kneeling to get your head chopped off.

One could just as easily say that lefties like you that want to continue ignoring the Islam problem are doing exactly what the terrorists want.

Clearly you don't even begin to know how a successful counter insurgency campaign is supposed to work. Why do you even have an opinion when you obviously have no military experience of any kind.....just another tourist.

 

[Discombobulated]

Begs the question: How stupid are these people?

 

[Katzndogz]

Islam is at war with us. The best we could do is mount a defense. That's not going to happen either.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Islam is at war with us. The best we could do is mount a defense. That's not going to happen either.

Tipsycatlover aka katzendrunk/doctor/lawyer/dog washer/cat declawer

Under any name, you are an idiot and you continue to ignore facts.

Do yourself a favor and just move to Russia.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

What we need is to educate those living in the west as to what Islam is really all about, start describing it correctly, learn to assert the superiority of our own way of life and stop all the internecine squabbling among us that only plays into their hands.

Instead of all this endless finger pointing between left and right, we need to realize that we have more in common due to our culture than we do with Islam.

As to practical steps, I would favor curbing immigration from Islamic countries, deportation of any Imam that even hints of sedition and creating official agencies responsible for helping assimilate the Muslim population living in the west.

 

[Kondor3]

...Secularized. That's right...

Was I not the one to say just that?

...The kind of backward thinking that led to a term like "Christendom" being developed is in our rear view mirror...

The terminology, anyway, is, indeed, in our rear view mirror.

Only to be dusted-off and trotted-out for display on rare occasions, such as when discussing the domains of the world's various religions.

... This ain't Christendom.

In any discussion of the domains of the world's various religions, each of those domains has a macro-level name.

The domain of Buddhism.

The domain of Hinduism.

The domain of Islam.

The domain of Christianity.

The domain of Christianity is commonly referred to as Christendom.

Each domain relies upon both historical possession and present-day demographics to outline its boundaries.

With respect to Christianity...

If you live in Europe or the Russias or anywhere in the Western Hemisphere or European-speaking parts of Oceania or the Western Pacific, you live within the domains of Christianity... consequently, you live in Christendom... a macro-level domain reference that spans national borders and even hemispheric distinctions.

As an atheist, you might not be overly-fond of seeing the label being trotted-out and utilized from time to time, but c'est la vie, and your objections over an acceptable macro-level domain label have little bearing upon the correctness of its use or application.

It's not a common reference, nowadays, but it's an accurate one, based upon both history and demographics.

I'm content with that level of reinforcing argument.

 

[Katzndogz]

Islam is at war with us. The best we could do is mount a defense. That's not going to happen either.

Tipsycatlover aka katzendrunk/doctor/lawyer/dog washer/cat declawer

Under any name, you are an idiot and you continue to ignore facts.

Do yourself a favor and just move to Russia.

I am pleased that you could not address my comment with anything other than a personal attack.

 

[Discombobulated]

Islam is at war with us. The best we could do is mount a defense. That's not going to happen either.

Really? Did the President of Islamistan ask the Muslim Congress to declare war?

 

[Discombobulated]

I think we should nuke Mecca. That would put an end to all their idiotic prattle. Which way are they going to bow when they pray? They wouldn't know what to do.

If all else fails...turn sand into glass.

It must be very comforting for people like you to have such a simple, uncomplicated view of the world.

 

[LoneLaugher]

...Secularized. That's right...

Was I not the one to say just that?

...The kind of backward thinking that led to a term like "Christendom" being developed is in our rear view mirror...

The terminology, anyway, is, indeed, in our rear view mirror.

Only to be dusted-off and trotted-out for display on rare occasions, such as when discussing the domains of the world's various religions.

... This ain't Christendom.

In any discussion of the domains of the world's various religions, each of those domains has a macro-level name.

The domain of Buddhism.

The domain of Hinduism.

The domain of Islam.

The domain of Christianity.

The domain of Christianity is commonly referred to as Christendom.

Each domain relies upon both historical possession and present-day demographics to outline its boundaries.

With respect to Christianity...

If you live in Europe or the Russias or anywhere in the Western Hemisphere or European-speaking parts of Oceania or the Western Pacific, you live within the domains of Christianity... consequently, you live in Christendom... a macro-level domain reference that spans national borders and even hemispheric distinctions.

As an atheist, you might not be overly-fond of seeing the label being trotted-out and utilized from time to time, but c'est la vie, and your objections over an acceptable macro-level domain label have little bearing upon the correctness of its use or application.

It's not a common reference, nowadays, but it's an accurate one, based upon both history and demographics.

I'm content with that level of reinforcing argument.

You could write a book for all I care. We no longer use the term. As a result, it isn't considered an acceptable label. Use it....and you'll be regarded as creepy and weird.

 

[Rozman]

Muslims need to step it up big time and start voicing some sort of opposition to this nonsense....
Otherwise they are part of the slaughter.

 

[hipeter924]

Why not leave the Middle East alone, and stop waging war everytime they aren't 'on our side'. Saddam is the best example. He was a 'good guy' when we supported his dictatorship in his war against Iran. Then became a 'bad guy' after invading Kuwait, and then after deposing Saddam we got ISIS in Iraq. We aren't making the place better.

 

[theHawk]

Why not leave the Middle East alone, and stop waging war everytime they aren't 'on our side'. Saddam is the best example. He was a 'good guy' when we supported his dictatorship in his war against Iran. Then became a 'bad guy' after invading Kuwait, and then after deposing Saddam we got ISIS in Iraq. We aren't making the place better.

We weren't in the middle east before and they still attacked us. As long as we are not against Israel, they will continue to attack us.

 

[theHawk]

No need to justify your answer if you don't want to. Would you support a war...a crusade against Islam and the killer muslims. Would you support a forced exodus and travel restrictions to the West?

Personally I would. Perhaps starting by exiling or imprisoning all family members of a known terrorist to a backwards ME nation.

Another supporter of Muslim extremists, the terrorists should thank you for spreading their message for them.

How am I supporting killer muslims? I advocate a total war against Islam. I am down for re-education camps and nuclear war to end the scourge.

You advocate exactly the reaction the terrorists are hoping for. You are obviously very busy spreading the message of Jihad.

The reaction the terrorists are looking for is for you to do nothing, and to let them spread their backwards ass religion. To the point of you either converting and kneeling to their false god, or kneeling to get your head chopped off.

One could just as easily say that lefties like you that want to continue ignoring the Islam problem are doing exactly what the terrorists want.

Clearly you don't even begin to know how a successful counter insurgency campaign is supposed to work. Why do you even have an opinion when you obviously have no military experience of any kind.....just another tourist.

Then why don't you enlighten us with your vast experience on what counter insurgency campaign will work.
So far you've only acted as though there is no Muslim problem at all and nothing to mount a campaign against.

 

[hipeter924]

Why not leave the Middle East alone, and stop waging war everytime they aren't 'on our side'. Saddam is the best example. He was a 'good guy' when we supported his dictatorship in his war against Iran. Then became a 'bad guy' after invading Kuwait, and then after deposing Saddam we got ISIS in Iraq. We aren't making the place better.

We weren't in the middle east before and they still attacked us. As long as we are not against Israel, they will continue to attack us.

We were in the Middle East when 9/11 happened, and there are US military bases all across the Middle East.

We supported the Shah, Saddam, Osama Bin Laden, pretty much dictator in the Middle East, and helped depose democratic governments. Gave them plenty of reasons to hate us.

 

[hipeter924]

Edit: pretty much every dictator

 

[Bleipriester]

I currently support a war on radical Islamism and have been accused over that by some people here aboard. You cannot support a war on terrorism when your government wages way by terrorism. So they accuse me of many things while they lie about the situation in Syria like programed robots. I cant express my abhorrence with words, just know, that it is those who blame me who are the ones that should be blamed. And this is not limited to that case.

So you also support going into countries all over the world and making war on certain of their citizens.

If you're talking about America, what do you want to do about that darned ole First Amendment?

That is not what I have said.
What if a sect your law consideres a religion aims at the replacement of that law by - lets say the sharia?

Frankly, your post doesn't make a lot of sense but you did write "I currently support a war on radical Islamism ...". Where do you think you would find them so you could make war on them?

If you're against laws based on religious beliefs, you must also be against laws for personal freedoms like marriage equality and abortion. Or are you saying you do support some laws against personal freedom but not others?

You misunderstood completely.
At first, I support the Syrians in defending their country against Islamist terrorists.
Secondly, there is no way to tolerate a sect that wamts to remove the freedoms it profits from.
You are arguing as it should be one of ones personal freedoms do kill others.

Again, your words are pretty garbled but if you meant to write 'there is no way to tolerate a sect that wants to remove the freedoms it profits from', then you must include others, such as Christianity.

And no, it should not "be one of ones personal freedoms [sic] do kill others" in the name of a religion.

This was general, so the reason to kill doesnt matter here. And how is the whole Christianity against secularity?

 

[theHawk]

Why not leave the Middle East alone, and stop waging war everytime they aren't 'on our side'. Saddam is the best example. He was a 'good guy' when we supported his dictatorship in his war against Iran. Then became a 'bad guy' after invading Kuwait, and then after deposing Saddam we got ISIS in Iraq. We aren't making the place better.

We weren't in the middle east before and they still attacked us. As long as we are not against Israel, they will continue to attack us.

We were in the Middle East when 9/11 happened, and there are US military bases all across the Middle East.

We supported the Shah, Saddam, Osama Bin Laden, pretty much dictator in the Middle East, and helped depose democratic governments. Gave them plenty of reasons to hate us.

We were in the Middle East because certain governments in the ME asked us to be there. Saudi Arabia and Kuwait for example. Maybe we shouldn't had helped them in the first place, but it is too late to do anything about that. Even if we pulled out of the ME completely, they'd still attack us for recognizing Israel. That's what it all comes down to.

 

[HenryBHough]

Why all the discussion?

The terrorists have won.

It's over.

If you doubt that go pass through the metal detector at the library and look it up.

Or fly to DC and check it out in The Library of Congress after, of course, passing through TSA's Porn-O-Ray inspection.