2aguy
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BTW, you claimed the murder rate went up in Wisconsin after Concealed Carry went into effect, (2011)
It has bounced up and down for the last 10 years
Wisconsin State Crime and Crime Rate - USA.com™
this is one of the reasons...Ferguson is another...
No easy answers to Milwaukee’s spiraling violence
Overworked, overtaxed
But the toughest sentences in the world won't help solve the city's crime problem if police aren't arresting the most violent criminals in the first place, said Michael Crivello, president of the Milwaukee Professional Police Association, which represents rank-and-file officers.
"The way I see it is — whether we're on the advent of travesty or we're already well into it — it was something that was bound to happen," he said.
Crivello and the union believe Flynn's changes in department structure and new policies implemented during his tenure have made it more difficult for officers to do their jobs effectively.
Crivello pointed to a reduction in the number of detectives, which was about 250 when Flynn took over in 2008 and is now about 180. Much of the responsibility for investigating crimes has been shifted from detectives to patrol officers.
"They're so overworked, overtaxed and trying to work with a different skill set, which they don't possess," Crivello said.
The dismantling of the gang and vice squads has allowed more violent criminals to roam free, according to Crivello.
"What you get out of it is human intelligence," he said of specialized squads. "That's how we win wars. You have to know what's going on in the streets. We've lost so much of that."
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The policy was changed in 2010 and has reduced the number of crashes. On the flip side, criminals who may be wanted on warrants, have a gun under the seat or have a trunk full of drugs know that if they flee police, there is very little the officers can do, Crivello said.
"They can literally flip the finger to an officer and take off hard and fast and get away with it," he said.
Flynn pointed out that critics used a similar argument against the old policy, saying officers were taking undue risks by chasing motorists who may not have guns or drugs. Research indicates that the vast majority of pursuits turn out to be for minor traffic violations, he said.
Soooooo....The actual case is bad policy from an inept democrat mayor....and the Ferguson effect.......not concealed carry by normal, law abiding citizens....
So policing effects crime rates, I agree.
As does allowing people to carry guns for self defense.