Yikes...leftists will have a hit nightmare over this poll

[Pogo]

A more interesting poll would be who people find is least trustworthy.

That's the same Poll. It's like saying who do you like the most, or who you like the least. Duh.

No really. If there were two selections, you'd be correct but since there are so many it is meaningless.

What do you mean? Asking the same same question in a different way, isn't going to change the result.

Who is the most trustworthy = FOX.

Who is the least trustworthy = will NOT be FOX, will be the MSNBC.

Yes, it can certainly change the result asking the question a different way. If everyone in the poll you posted who voted for anyone but Fox said that Fox is the least trustworthy then that would show us a segment of the population thinks Fox is trustworthy and everyone else thinks it is a joke.

Not really, the poll showed that FOX is the most trustworthy among it's competitors. The fact that FOX is the sole voice that doesn't repeat the leftist talking points and still manages to kick it's competitors who have ganged up against it five to one, is a major achievement and credit to FOX news.

"Five to one"?
In reference to what this is?

 

[Pogo]

Really shows how effective Murdoch's plan has been. Y'all may remember that he was filmed in staff meetings, telling his staff to LIE, telling them to say "fair and balanced" over and over and over, even though they were telling lies. That ploy, repeating "fair and balance" continuously, has been so effective that brainless RWs now hang on every lie fox spews.

This, in spite of the facts they KNOW- that a Muslim controls the programming, that fox is truthful in only 18% of their programming and, of course, most recently, that Bill O'Reilly has been lying for years.

Gullible idiots know they're being lied to and they're actually proud of being stupid enough to keep right on swallowing it whole.

But still - the good news is that many more don't get their "news" from fox than those who do.

The best part is that the demographics show that younger people aren't buying Faux Noise lies.

They will as they get older. Adults don't watch cartoons all day, just because they did at some point in their childhood.

You're saying older people are more easily lied to?

OK, I'm listening...

Quite the opposite. Older people are wiser and more experienced, therefore not as easy to dupe. Young people are inexperienced, impatient, and make decisions based on emotions.

Then do you wish to edit what you just said above?

Read my earlier treatise on emotional manipulation, then look at the age demographic. If there's an indication at all it would be the opposite -- i.e. that your first version was correct. I just never thought of it as a consequence of older age -- but I'm willing to listen to the argument.

I mean the same holds true, even more so, of Lush Rimjob's audience ("average age: deceased"), so it certainly has representation.

 

[Roudy]

That's the same Poll. It's like saying who do you like the most, or who you like the least. Duh.

No really. If there were two selections, you'd be correct but since there are so many it is meaningless.

What do you mean? Asking the same same question in a different way, isn't going to change the result.

Who is the most trustworthy = FOX.

Who is the least trustworthy = will NOT be FOX, will be the MSNBC.

Yes, it can certainly change the result asking the question a different way. If everyone in the poll you posted who voted for anyone but Fox said that Fox is the least trustworthy then that would show us a segment of the population thinks Fox is trustworthy and everyone else thinks it is a joke.

Not really, the poll showed that FOX is the most trustworthy among it's competitors. The fact that FOX is the sole voice that doesn't repeat the leftist talking points and still manages to kick it's competitors who have ganged up against it five to one, is a major achievement and credit to FOX news.

"Five to one"?
In reference to what this is?

NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC...Five major media outlets that are in the back pocket of the leftists and Democrats, and only one that isn't: FOX.

Considering that FOX is constsntly demonized by the media, govt., other leftists in academia and elsewhere, this poll is a huge credit to the FOX organization, no matter how you look at it.

 

[Roudy]

Really shows how effective Murdoch's plan has been. Y'all may remember that he was filmed in staff meetings, telling his staff to LIE, telling them to say "fair and balanced" over and over and over, even though they were telling lies. That ploy, repeating "fair and balance" continuously, has been so effective that brainless RWs now hang on every lie fox spews.

This, in spite of the facts they KNOW- that a Muslim controls the programming, that fox is truthful in only 18% of their programming and, of course, most recently, that Bill O'Reilly has been lying for years.

Gullible idiots know they're being lied to and they're actually proud of being stupid enough to keep right on swallowing it whole.

But still - the good news is that many more don't get their "news" from fox than those who do.

The best part is that the demographics show that younger people aren't buying Faux Noise lies.

They will as they get older. Adults don't watch cartoons all day, just because they did at some point in their childhood.

You're saying older people are more easily lied to?

OK, I'm listening...

Quite the opposite. Older people are wiser and more experienced, therefore not as easy to dupe. Young people are inexperienced, impatient, and make decisions based on emotions.

Then do you wish to edit what you just said above?

Read my earlier treatise on emotional manipulation, then look at the age demographic. If there's an indication at all it would be the opposite -- i.e. that your first version was correct. I just never thought of it as a consequence of older age -- but I'm willing to listen to the argument.

I mean the same holds true, even more so, of Lush Rimjob's audience ("average age: deceased"), so it certainly has representation.

What's to correct? You said that FOX news has an older audience, and I explained the reason for it, which you seemed to agree.

 

[SAYIT]

I guess we have president Oblahblah and his radical anti capitalist anti American agenda to thank for?

Fox News is the most trusted national news channel. And it’s not that close.
OUCH!

Funny thing is, I watch 'em all and I notice all but al-Jazeera are moving closer to the center.

 

[Pogo]

The best part is that the demographics show that younger people aren't buying Faux Noise lies.

They will as they get older. Adults don't watch cartoons all day, just because they did at some point in their childhood.

You're saying older people are more easily lied to?

OK, I'm listening...

Quite the opposite. Older people are wiser and more experienced, therefore not as easy to dupe. Young people are inexperienced, impatient, and make decisions based on emotions.

Then do you wish to edit what you just said above?

Read my earlier treatise on emotional manipulation, then look at the age demographic. If there's an indication at all it would be the opposite -- i.e. that your first version was correct. I just never thought of it as a consequence of older age -- but I'm willing to listen to the argument.

I mean the same holds true, even more so, of Lush Rimjob's audience ("average age: deceased"), so it certainly has representation.

What's to correct? You said that FOX news has an older audience, and I explained the reason for it, which you seemed to agree.

I put it in bold, here it is again:

The best part is that the demographics show that younger people aren't buying Faux Noise lies.

To which you answered:

They will as they get older. Adults don't watch cartoons all day, just because they did at some point in their childhood.

Ergo younger people don't buy lies; older people do.

I've never thought of Appeal to Emotion as having an age demographic as such, but maybe you're right that it works more on older people. The demographics cited here would certainly support the theory.

 

[Pogo]

No really. If there were two selections, you'd be correct but since there are so many it is meaningless.

What do you mean? Asking the same same question in a different way, isn't going to change the result.

Who is the most trustworthy = FOX.

Who is the least trustworthy = will NOT be FOX, will be the MSNBC.

Yes, it can certainly change the result asking the question a different way. If everyone in the poll you posted who voted for anyone but Fox said that Fox is the least trustworthy then that would show us a segment of the population thinks Fox is trustworthy and everyone else thinks it is a joke.

Not really, the poll showed that FOX is the most trustworthy among it's competitors. The fact that FOX is the sole voice that doesn't repeat the leftist talking points and still manages to kick it's competitors who have ganged up against it five to one, is a major achievement and credit to FOX news.

"Five to one"?
In reference to what this is?

NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC...Five major media outlets that are in the back pocket of the leftists and Democrats, and only one that isn't: FOX.

Considering that FOX is constsntly demonized by the media, govt., other leftists in academia and elsewhere, this poll is a huge credit to the FOX organization, no matter how you look at it.

False premise. A Composition Fallacy.
No ideology sells a TV channel. Ratings are what sell a TV channel, and ratings are determined by attention. Not any kind of ideology.

This is easily demonstrable and I've only pointed it out about six thousand times.

Fatter o' mact your entire thread title "leftists.. nightmare" is based on the same false premise, imagining that what Fox Noise sells is "rigthtism".

It isn't.

What Fox Noise sells is what all commercial broadcasting sells -- advertising, for cars and Viagra and insurance and cellphones and whatever. That's what ratings are for. Whatever ideological slant they may weave into their fabric is simply the shiny object to draw eyeballs, which is to set them up for that commercial.

I think summa y'all labor under the idea that the Foxes and MSNBCs are some kind of giant football game and whichever one tops the ratings "score" is somehow "validated" -- and meanwhile everybody's operation bills are just magically paid by the fairies. That's not how it works at all -- nor is it what ratings mean. Whether it's politics, sex, dangerous stunts, or any other kind of fear and loathing, the objective of the TV channel is to draw your attention so it can sell you an ad. It doesn't give a shit what it needs to do to accomplish that. Certainly it has nothing to do with anything resembling "truth" or "intellect". That's exactly why we call it the Vast Wasteland.

ClearChannel TV corporate executive to one of his underlings:
"Do you know what the definition of programming is? Programming is the shit we run between commercials".

Considering what the prime directive actually is, "programming" is eerily appropriate.

 

[Roudy]

They will as they get older. Adults don't watch cartoons all day, just because they did at some point in their childhood.

You're saying older people are more easily lied to?

OK, I'm listening...

Quite the opposite. Older people are wiser and more experienced, therefore not as easy to dupe. Young people are inexperienced, impatient, and make decisions based on emotions.

Then do you wish to edit what you just said above?

Read my earlier treatise on emotional manipulation, then look at the age demographic. If there's an indication at all it would be the opposite -- i.e. that your first version was correct. I just never thought of it as a consequence of older age -- but I'm willing to listen to the argument.

I mean the same holds true, even more so, of Lush Rimjob's audience ("average age: deceased"), so it certainly has representation.

What's to correct? You said that FOX news has an older audience, and I explained the reason for it, which you seemed to agree.

I put it in bold, here it is again:

The best part is that the demographics show that younger people aren't buying Faux Noise lies.

To which you answered:

They will as they get older. Adults don't watch cartoons all day, just because they did at some point in their childhood.

Ergo younger people don't buy lies; older people do.

I've never thought of Appeal to Emotion as having an age demographic as such, but maybe you're right that it works more on older people. The demographics cited here would certainly support the theory.

So your theory is that younger, less knowledgable, less experienced, more emotional people who haven't been around the block a few times, and seen the leftist media machine in action, are LESS likely to fall for lies?

 

[Roudy]

I guess we have president Oblahblah and his radical anti capitalist anti American agenda to thank for?

Fox News is the most trusted national news channel. And it’s not that close.
OUCH!

Funny thing is, I watch 'em all and I notice all but al-Jazeera are moving closer to the center.

yup, like I said CNN is the most clever they inject their ideology in a more subtle way, by giving more time and emphasizing issues that highlight their agenda, and other deceptive techniques.

MSNBC is the lone holdout that keeps firing their propogandists and hiring new ones, due to lack of viewership.

 

[Roudy]

What do you mean? Asking the same same question in a different way, isn't going to change the result.

Who is the most trustworthy = FOX.

Who is the least trustworthy = will NOT be FOX, will be the MSNBC.

Yes, it can certainly change the result asking the question a different way. If everyone in the poll you posted who voted for anyone but Fox said that Fox is the least trustworthy then that would show us a segment of the population thinks Fox is trustworthy and everyone else thinks it is a joke.

Not really, the poll showed that FOX is the most trustworthy among it's competitors. The fact that FOX is the sole voice that doesn't repeat the leftist talking points and still manages to kick it's competitors who have ganged up against it five to one, is a major achievement and credit to FOX news.

"Five to one"?
In reference to what this is?

NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC...Five major media outlets that are in the back pocket of the leftists and Democrats, and only one that isn't: FOX.

Considering that FOX is constsntly demonized by the media, govt., other leftists in academia and elsewhere, this poll is a huge credit to the FOX organization, no matter how you look at it.

False premise. A Composition Fallacy.
No ideology sells a TV channel. Ratings are what sell a TV channel, and ratings are determined by attention. Not any kind of ideology.

This is easily demonstrable and I've only pointed it out about six thousand times.

Fatter o' mact your entire thread title "leftists.. nightmare" is based on the same false premise, imagining that what Fox Noise sells is "rigthtism".

It isn't.

What Fox Noise sells is what all commercial broadcasting sells -- advertising, for cars and Viagra and insurance and cellphones and whatever. That's what ratings are for. Whatever ideological slant they may weave into their fabric is simply the shiny object to draw eyeballs, which is to set them up for that commercial.

I think summa y'all labor under the idea that the Foxes and MSNBCs are some kind of giant football game and whichever one tops the ratings "score" is somehow "validated" -- and meanwhile everybody's operation bills are just magically paid by the fairies. That's not how it works at all -- nor is it what ratings mean. Whether it's politics, sex, dangerous stunts, or any other kind of fear and loathing, the objective of the TV channel is to draw your attention so it can sell you an ad. It doesn't give a shit what it needs to do to accomplish that. Certainly it has nothing to do with anything resembling "truth" or "intellect". That's exactly why we call it the Vast Wasteland.

ClearChannel TV corporate executive to one of his underlings:
"Do you know what the definition of programming is? Programming is the shit we run between commercials".

The five networks are more or less in line with each other, promoting the Democrat, leftist-progressive talking points in stylistically different ways, and then you have FOX that offers a different perspective. That's the truth.

And despite being demonized constantly by the media, academia, and other leftist elitist sectors, FOX news still manages to come out on top. That's quite an achievement.

 

[Pogo]

You're saying older people are more easily lied to?

OK, I'm listening...

Quite the opposite. Older people are wiser and more experienced, therefore not as easy to dupe. Young people are inexperienced, impatient, and make decisions based on emotions.

Then do you wish to edit what you just said above?

Read my earlier treatise on emotional manipulation, then look at the age demographic. If there's an indication at all it would be the opposite -- i.e. that your first version was correct. I just never thought of it as a consequence of older age -- but I'm willing to listen to the argument.

I mean the same holds true, even more so, of Lush Rimjob's audience ("average age: deceased"), so it certainly has representation.

What's to correct? You said that FOX news has an older audience, and I explained the reason for it, which you seemed to agree.

I put it in bold, here it is again:

The best part is that the demographics show that younger people aren't buying Faux Noise lies.

To which you answered:

They will as they get older. Adults don't watch cartoons all day, just because they did at some point in their childhood.

Ergo younger people don't buy lies; older people do.

I've never thought of Appeal to Emotion as having an age demographic as such, but maybe you're right that it works more on older people. The demographics cited here would certainly support the theory.

So your theory is that younger, less knowledgable, less experienced, more emotional people who haven't been around the block a few times, and seen the leftist media machine in action.are LESS likely to fall for lies?

That was what you proposed. As I say, I'm listening for you to develop your case. I'm prepared to agree if you can.

 

[Pogo]

Yes, it can certainly change the result asking the question a different way. If everyone in the poll you posted who voted for anyone but Fox said that Fox is the least trustworthy then that would show us a segment of the population thinks Fox is trustworthy and everyone else thinks it is a joke.

Not really, the poll showed that FOX is the most trustworthy among it's competitors. The fact that FOX is the sole voice that doesn't repeat the leftist talking points and still manages to kick it's competitors who have ganged up against it five to one, is a major achievement and credit to FOX news.

"Five to one"?
In reference to what this is?

NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC...Five major media outlets that are in the back pocket of the leftists and Democrats, and only one that isn't: FOX.

Considering that FOX is constsntly demonized by the media, govt., other leftists in academia and elsewhere, this poll is a huge credit to the FOX organization, no matter how you look at it.

False premise. A Composition Fallacy.
No ideology sells a TV channel. Ratings are what sell a TV channel, and ratings are determined by attention. Not any kind of ideology.

This is easily demonstrable and I've only pointed it out about six thousand times.

Fatter o' mact your entire thread title "leftists.. nightmare" is based on the same false premise, imagining that what Fox Noise sells is "rigthtism".

It isn't.

What Fox Noise sells is what all commercial broadcasting sells -- advertising, for cars and Viagra and insurance and cellphones and whatever. That's what ratings are for. Whatever ideological slant they may weave into their fabric is simply the shiny object to draw eyeballs, which is to set them up for that commercial.

I think summa y'all labor under the idea that the Foxes and MSNBCs are some kind of giant football game and whichever one tops the ratings "score" is somehow "validated" -- and meanwhile everybody's operation bills are just magically paid by the fairies. That's not how it works at all -- nor is it what ratings mean. Whether it's politics, sex, dangerous stunts, or any other kind of fear and loathing, the objective of the TV channel is to draw your attention so it can sell you an ad. It doesn't give a shit what it needs to do to accomplish that. Certainly it has nothing to do with anything resembling "truth" or "intellect". That's exactly why we call it the Vast Wasteland.

ClearChannel TV corporate executive to one of his underlings:
"Do you know what the definition of programming is? Programming is the shit we run between commercials".

The five networks are more or less in line with each other, promoting the Democrat, leftist-progressive talking points in stylistically different ways, and then you have FOX that offers a different perspective. That's the truth.

And despite being demonized constantly and having all the media, academia, and other leftist elitist sectors against them, FOX news still manages to come out on top. That's quite an achievement.

Did all of the above just sail over your head completely?
What Fox has "achieved" is the ability to charge more for its ads than its competitors in the same demographic. That's it. That's what coming out "on top" means when you're talking ratings -- how many eyeballs you can deliver to the advertiser.

What part of that is so inconvenient it has to be continually met with ?

Broadcast ratings are meaningful, significant, and in any conceivable way relevant to exactly two entities:
1 - Those who sell commercial airtime;
2- Those why buy commercial airtime.

That's it. End of list.

And "the same demographic" is significant. An advertiser that wants to reach for example old people to sell Viagra or life insurance, is going to find more eyeballs on Fox. One that has a younger target, say for iPhones, is going to find a better avenue in CNN.

I don't think ratings means what you think it means.

 

[Roudy]

Not really, the poll showed that FOX is the most trustworthy among it's competitors. The fact that FOX is the sole voice that doesn't repeat the leftist talking points and still manages to kick it's competitors who have ganged up against it five to one, is a major achievement and credit to FOX news.

"Five to one"?
In reference to what this is?

NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC...Five major media outlets that are in the back pocket of the leftists and Democrats, and only one that isn't: FOX.

Considering that FOX is constsntly demonized by the media, govt., other leftists in academia and elsewhere, this poll is a huge credit to the FOX organization, no matter how you look at it.

False premise. A Composition Fallacy.
No ideology sells a TV channel. Ratings are what sell a TV channel, and ratings are determined by attention. Not any kind of ideology.

This is easily demonstrable and I've only pointed it out about six thousand times.

Fatter o' mact your entire thread title "leftists.. nightmare" is based on the same false premise, imagining that what Fox Noise sells is "rigthtism".

It isn't.

What Fox Noise sells is what all commercial broadcasting sells -- advertising, for cars and Viagra and insurance and cellphones and whatever. That's what ratings are for. Whatever ideological slant they may weave into their fabric is simply the shiny object to draw eyeballs, which is to set them up for that commercial.

I think summa y'all labor under the idea that the Foxes and MSNBCs are some kind of giant football game and whichever one tops the ratings "score" is somehow "validated" -- and meanwhile everybody's operation bills are just magically paid by the fairies. That's not how it works at all -- nor is it what ratings mean. Whether it's politics, sex, dangerous stunts, or any other kind of fear and loathing, the objective of the TV channel is to draw your attention so it can sell you an ad. It doesn't give a shit what it needs to do to accomplish that. Certainly it has nothing to do with anything resembling "truth" or "intellect". That's exactly why we call it the Vast Wasteland.

ClearChannel TV corporate executive to one of his underlings:
"Do you know what the definition of programming is? Programming is the shit we run between commercials".

The five networks are more or less in line with each other, promoting the Democrat, leftist-progressive talking points in stylistically different ways, and then you have FOX that offers a different perspective. That's the truth.

And despite being demonized constantly and having all the media, academia, and other leftist elitist sectors against them, FOX news still manages to come out on top. That's quite an achievement.

Did all of the above just sail over your head completely?
What Fox has "achieved" is the ability to charge more for its ads than its competitors in the same demographic. That's it. That's what coming out "on top" means when you're talking ratings -- how many eyeballs you can deliver to the advertiser.

What part of that is so inconvenient it has to be continually met with ?

Broadcast ratings are meaningful, significant, and in any conceivable way relevant to exactly two entities:
1 - Those who sell commercial airtime;
2- Those why buy commercial airtime.

That's it. End of list.

And "the same demographic" is significant. An advertiser that wants to reach for example old people to sell Viagra or life insurance, is going to find more eyeballs on Fox. One that has a younger target, say for iPhones, is going to find a better avenue in CNN.

I don't think ratings means what you think it means.

Yes....because the audience that tunes into FOX like and agree with it's perspective and take on current events, therefore it can charge more for its ads because of the larger size of that audience, relative to the other outlets.

 

[Roudy]

Quite the opposite. Older people are wiser and more experienced, therefore not as easy to dupe. Young people are inexperienced, impatient, and make decisions based on emotions.

Then do you wish to edit what you just said above?

Read my earlier treatise on emotional manipulation, then look at the age demographic. If there's an indication at all it would be the opposite -- i.e. that your first version was correct. I just never thought of it as a consequence of older age -- but I'm willing to listen to the argument.

I mean the same holds true, even more so, of Lush Rimjob's audience ("average age: deceased"), so it certainly has representation.

What's to correct? You said that FOX news has an older audience, and I explained the reason for it, which you seemed to agree.

I put it in bold, here it is again:

The best part is that the demographics show that younger people aren't buying Faux Noise lies.

To which you answered:

They will as they get older. Adults don't watch cartoons all day, just because they did at some point in their childhood.

Ergo younger people don't buy lies; older people do.

I've never thought of Appeal to Emotion as having an age demographic as such, but maybe you're right that it works more on older people. The demographics cited here would certainly support the theory.

So your theory is that younger, less knowledgable, less experienced, more emotional people who haven't been around the block a few times, and seen the leftist media machine in action.are LESS likely to fall for lies?

That was what you proposed. As I say, I'm listening for you to develop your case. I'm prepared to agree if you can.

I'm proposing that as people get older and wiser, they become FOX news viewers, which explains why FOX has a higher number of older people relative to the other ones. MSNBC probably has the youngest.

 

[Friends]

All this means is that the right wing ideologues who watch FOX News believe everything it tells them.

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STUDY: Watching Only Fox News Makes You Less Informed Than Watching No News At All

Business Insider MAY 22, 2012

Media outlets such as Fox News and MSNBC have a negative impact on people’s current events knowledge while NPR and Sunday morning political talk shows are the most informative sources of news, according to Fairleigh Dickinson University’s newest PublicMind survey...

They found that someone who watched only Fox News would be expected to answer 1.04 domestic questions correctly compared to 1.22 for those who watched no news at all...

Thus, those who watched no news—answering questions by guessing or relying on existing knowledge—fared much better than those who watched the most popular 24-hour cable news network (i.e. Fox News).
STUDY Watching Fox News Makes You Less Informed Than Watching No News At All - Business Insider

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FOX News won a lawsuit in Florida protecting its right to lie. It does not matter that the ignorant buffoons who reinforce their prejudices watching FOX News believe what FOX News tells them. What matters is that they are ignorant buffoons.

 

[Friends]

Fox News just can't handle the truth. Literally. Nor can they be trusted to report the truth, according to a new study by PolitiFact's PunditFact group. The fact checkers there say that 60 percent of the claims made by Fox News' pundits and on-air personalities are Mostly False, False or Pants on Fire false -- to use their terms.

The other networks have work to do as well. PunditFact ruled 46 percent of the claims made by NBC News and MSNBC pundits and personalities to be Mostly False, False or Pants on Fire false. CNN came in at just 18 percent false.
Pants On Fire Top Fact-Checking Group Finds 60 Percent Of Fox News Is False - The New Civil Rights Movement

 

[Derideo_Te]

I guess we have president Oblahblah and his radical anti capitalist anti American agenda to thank for?

Fox News is the most trusted national news channel. And it’s not that close.

Fox News Channel beats out CNN for America's most trusted cable or broadcast news coverage, and MSNBC lags far behind, even among Democrats, according to new polling done by Quinnipiac University. The poll found 29 percent of people say they trust Fox News' coverage the most, followed by 22 percent for CNN and 10 percent for NBC News and CBS News.

Fox News is the most trusted national news channel. And it’s not that close.
Fox News Channel beats out CNN for America's most trusted cable or broadcast news coverage, and MSNBC lags far behind, even among Democrats, according to new polling done by Quinnipiac University. The poll found 29 percent of people say they trust Fox News' coverage the most, followed by 22 percent for CNN and 10 percent for NBC News and CBS News.

Fox News' figures are unsurprising considering its ratings. The channel ended 2014 second only to ESPN in total viewers among all ad-supported basic cable networks. Its "America's Newsroom," "The Five," "Special Report with Bret Baier" and "The O'Reilly Factor" were the most-watched shows in their time slots among all cable stations. Put simply: Fox News is a ratings juggernaut.

Yes, FNC's numbers are boosted by the fact that 58 percent of Republicans trust it the most; Fox News also has the most trusted coverage among independents with 25 percent.

While Fox News is bolstered by the right, MSNBC doesn't get the same support from the left. The poll found that more Democrats trust CNN (32 percent) and NBC News (15 percent) than MSNBC (14 percent, tied with CBS News).

Here's the breakdown by political affiliation, gender, and age:

(via Quinnipiac)
Fox News' dominance puts its frequent complaints about the "mainstream media" into perspective. For millions of Americans, Fox News is the mainstream media.

Fox News' figures are unsurprising considering its ratings. The channel ended 2014 second only to ESPN in total viewers among all ad-supported basic cable networks. Its "America's Newsroom," "The Five," "Special Report with Bret Baier" and "The O'Reilly Factor" were the most-watched shows in their time slots among all cable stations. Put simply: Fox News is a ratings juggernaut.

Yes, FNC's numbers are boosted by the fact that 58 percent of Republicans trust it the most; Fox News also has the most trusted coverage among independents with 25 percent.

While Fox News is bolstered by the right, MSNBC doesn't get the same support from the left. The poll found that more Democrats trust CNN (32 percent) and NBC News (15 percent) than MSNBC (14 percent, tied with CBS News).


OUCH!

Lies, damn lies and statistics.

If there were 5 variations of Faux Noise splitting up that 29% they would average 6% each.

All that poll says is that there is only a single source for extreme conservative entertainment.

Got to wonder why they left our Comedy Central.

Well at least you agree that the media is dominated by leftist hacks who in essence are the propoganda arm of the Democrat party. We'll take it!

Life must be really hard for those whose only rebuttal is to lie about what others actually post.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Really shows how effective Murdoch's plan has been. Y'all may remember that he was filmed in staff meetings, telling his staff to LIE, telling them to say "fair and balanced" over and over and over, even though they were telling lies. That ploy, repeating "fair and balance" continuously, has been so effective that brainless RWs now hang on every lie fox spews.

This, in spite of the facts they KNOW- that a Muslim controls the programming, that fox is truthful in only 18% of their programming and, of course, most recently, that Bill O'Reilly has been lying for years.

Gullible idiots know they're being lied to and they're actually proud of being stupid enough to keep right on swallowing it whole.

But still - the good news is that many more don't get their "news" from fox than those who do.

The best part is that the demographics show that younger people aren't buying Faux Noise lies.

They will as they get older. Adults don't watch cartoons all day, just because they did at some point in their childhood.

Assume facts not in evidence.

 

[Pogo]

"Five to one"?
In reference to what this is?

NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC...Five major media outlets that are in the back pocket of the leftists and Democrats, and only one that isn't: FOX.

Considering that FOX is constsntly demonized by the media, govt., other leftists in academia and elsewhere, this poll is a huge credit to the FOX organization, no matter how you look at it.

False premise. A Composition Fallacy.
No ideology sells a TV channel. Ratings are what sell a TV channel, and ratings are determined by attention. Not any kind of ideology.

This is easily demonstrable and I've only pointed it out about six thousand times.

Fatter o' mact your entire thread title "leftists.. nightmare" is based on the same false premise, imagining that what Fox Noise sells is "rigthtism".

It isn't.

What Fox Noise sells is what all commercial broadcasting sells -- advertising, for cars and Viagra and insurance and cellphones and whatever. That's what ratings are for. Whatever ideological slant they may weave into their fabric is simply the shiny object to draw eyeballs, which is to set them up for that commercial.

I think summa y'all labor under the idea that the Foxes and MSNBCs are some kind of giant football game and whichever one tops the ratings "score" is somehow "validated" -- and meanwhile everybody's operation bills are just magically paid by the fairies. That's not how it works at all -- nor is it what ratings mean. Whether it's politics, sex, dangerous stunts, or any other kind of fear and loathing, the objective of the TV channel is to draw your attention so it can sell you an ad. It doesn't give a shit what it needs to do to accomplish that. Certainly it has nothing to do with anything resembling "truth" or "intellect". That's exactly why we call it the Vast Wasteland.

ClearChannel TV corporate executive to one of his underlings:
"Do you know what the definition of programming is? Programming is the shit we run between commercials".

The five networks are more or less in line with each other, promoting the Democrat, leftist-progressive talking points in stylistically different ways, and then you have FOX that offers a different perspective. That's the truth.

And despite being demonized constantly and having all the media, academia, and other leftist elitist sectors against them, FOX news still manages to come out on top. That's quite an achievement.

Did all of the above just sail over your head completely?
What Fox has "achieved" is the ability to charge more for its ads than its competitors in the same demographic. That's it. That's what coming out "on top" means when you're talking ratings -- how many eyeballs you can deliver to the advertiser.

What part of that is so inconvenient it has to be continually met with ?

Broadcast ratings are meaningful, significant, and in any conceivable way relevant to exactly two entities:
1 - Those who sell commercial airtime;
2- Those why buy commercial airtime.

That's it. End of list.

And "the same demographic" is significant. An advertiser that wants to reach for example old people to sell Viagra or life insurance, is going to find more eyeballs on Fox. One that has a younger target, say for iPhones, is going to find a better avenue in CNN.

I don't think ratings means what you think it means.

Yes....because the audience that tunes into FOX like and agree with it's perspective and take on current events, therefore it can charge more for its ads because of the larger size of that audience, relative to the other outlets.

Whether they "agree" with its perspective, "disagree" or are indifferent to it is entirely irrelevant. "Agreeing with" is hardly the only reason to watch a particular channel. "Disagreeing" with it is just as volatile, and then there's good old Ubiquity -- the first thing Rupert Murdoch did launching was to make sure it was readily available everywhere, for no extra charge (which is not the case for MSNBC).

The bottom line you keep missing is that ratings, high, low or medium, don't tell us anything about viewership "agreeing" or "disagreeing". They tell us about attention. And attention, as already painstakingly noted, comes from emotional manipulation. Simple proof: if TV ratings could be held to be synonymous with public political ideology, then by these ratings then no Democrat could ever get elected at all. Which leads me to observe, to paraphrase one Fox talking head, this ratings-as-political-landscape baloney is just "math you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better".

In sum, when broadcast entity X returns a showing of high ratings, it's good news for exactly one entity, and that is the sales department that sells its commercial time. But the reason they're high is because its programming department figured out how to keep people watching -- whether they "agree", "disagree" or "don't care about" the perspective. Put Mother Theresa on the screen, you get attention. Put Emmanuel Goldstein on the screen, you still get attention. Doesn't mean the audience is "agreeing" with either one.

And there's a lot more to that psychological mining than an ideological perspective; first and foremost in this case the Fear Factor, but piled on top of that are bright colorful graphics that go whoooosh, suggestive chyrons running all the time, and short-skirted cougar bimbos dressed to fetch the 78-year-old men. And of course the race baiting within the Fear Factor. It's all part of the same prime directive, and all for the same purpose: attention.

 

[Roudy]

I guess we have president Oblahblah and his radical anti capitalist anti American agenda to thank for?

Fox News is the most trusted national news channel. And it’s not that close.

Fox News Channel beats out CNN for America's most trusted cable or broadcast news coverage, and MSNBC lags far behind, even among Democrats, according to new polling done by Quinnipiac University. The poll found 29 percent of people say they trust Fox News' coverage the most, followed by 22 percent for CNN and 10 percent for NBC News and CBS News.

Fox News is the most trusted national news channel. And it’s not that close.
Fox News Channel beats out CNN for America's most trusted cable or broadcast news coverage, and MSNBC lags far behind, even among Democrats, according to new polling done by Quinnipiac University. The poll found 29 percent of people say they trust Fox News' coverage the most, followed by 22 percent for CNN and 10 percent for NBC News and CBS News.

Fox News' figures are unsurprising considering its ratings. The channel ended 2014 second only to ESPN in total viewers among all ad-supported basic cable networks. Its "America's Newsroom," "The Five," "Special Report with Bret Baier" and "The O'Reilly Factor" were the most-watched shows in their time slots among all cable stations. Put simply: Fox News is a ratings juggernaut.

Yes, FNC's numbers are boosted by the fact that 58 percent of Republicans trust it the most; Fox News also has the most trusted coverage among independents with 25 percent.

While Fox News is bolstered by the right, MSNBC doesn't get the same support from the left. The poll found that more Democrats trust CNN (32 percent) and NBC News (15 percent) than MSNBC (14 percent, tied with CBS News).

Here's the breakdown by political affiliation, gender, and age:

(via Quinnipiac)
Fox News' dominance puts its frequent complaints about the "mainstream media" into perspective. For millions of Americans, Fox News is the mainstream media.

Fox News' figures are unsurprising considering its ratings. The channel ended 2014 second only to ESPN in total viewers among all ad-supported basic cable networks. Its "America's Newsroom," "The Five," "Special Report with Bret Baier" and "The O'Reilly Factor" were the most-watched shows in their time slots among all cable stations. Put simply: Fox News is a ratings juggernaut.

Yes, FNC's numbers are boosted by the fact that 58 percent of Republicans trust it the most; Fox News also has the most trusted coverage among independents with 25 percent.

While Fox News is bolstered by the right, MSNBC doesn't get the same support from the left. The poll found that more Democrats trust CNN (32 percent) and NBC News (15 percent) than MSNBC (14 percent, tied with CBS News).


OUCH!

Lies, damn lies and statistics.

If there were 5 variations of Faux Noise splitting up that 29% they would average 6% each.

All that poll says is that there is only a single source for extreme conservative entertainment.

Got to wonder why they left our Comedy Central.

Well at least you agree that the media is dominated by leftist hacks who in essence are the propoganda arm of the Democrat party. We'll take it!

Life must be really hard for those whose only rebuttal is to lie about what others actually post.

Nope. The representation was made that together, all the other five news outlets numbers trust ratio adds up to more than FOX.

And, the five other News outlets are all either somewhat, or very, leftist progressive pro democrat. So I'm not lying about anything.