You cannot help the poor by giving more tax cuts to the rich

[teapartysamurai]

Here's how wealth comes from the government....

Who built the interstate highway system?

Who built the Hoover Dam?

Who created the internet?

Who educates our children?

Who pays for the police department?

Who pays for the fire department?

Who runs the postal system?

Who helps the old and the sick with Social Security and Medicare?

Who created Seal Team Six?

Who created NASA?

Who supports MIT and Cal Tech and all of our other state universities?

I can destroy this BS with one question!

WHO PAYS ALL THEIR SALARIES, DUMBASS?????

You think government just has money by magic??????

Idiots! Every single last liberal!

 

[Chris]

Caltech was elected to the Association of American Universities in 1934 and remains a research university with "very high" research activity, primarily in STEM fields.[6][43] Caltech manages research expenditures of $270 million annually,[68] 66th among all universities in the U.S. and 17th among private institutions without medical schools for 2008.[69][70] The largest federal agencies contributing to research are NASA, National Science Foundation, Department of Health and Human Services, Department of Defense, and Department of Energy.[71] Caltech received $144 million in federal funding for the physical sciences, $40.8 million for the life sciences, $33.5 million for engineering, $14.4 million for environmental sciences, $7.16 million for computer sciences, and $1.97 million for mathematical sciences in 2008.[72]

 

[Article 15]

I really don't understand why liberals don't get this concept?--

Care to take a shot at what the spammer failed to do and prove that my wealth comes from the government....you know, with me being a liberal and all.

Article15 proves another thing about liberals. They think the world just revolves around them, and ONLY them!

Narcissists are us = liberal!

In other words, "No, I can't prove that his wealth comes from the government even though he is a liberal and I said that's where their wealth comes from."

 

[Chris]

Here's how wealth comes from the government....

Who built the interstate highway system?

Who built the Hoover Dam?

Who created the internet?

Who educates our children?

Who pays for the police department?

Who pays for the fire department?

Who runs the postal system?

Who helps the old and the sick with Social Security and Medicare?

Who created Seal Team Six?

Who created NASA?

Who supports MIT and Cal Tech and all of our other state universities?

I can destroy this BS with one question!

WHO PAYS ALL THEIR SALARIES, DUMBASS?????

You think government just has money by magic??????

Idiots! Every single last liberal!

What are you 15?

I pay their salaries, and I am not a whinny little conservative pussy complaining that his taxes are too high.

Our taxes are too low. That's why we have a deficit.

 

[teapartysamurai]

400 people control HALF the wealth in this country.

What is more important, that American children get an education, that our people get healthcare, that roads and bridges get fixed, that advanced materials research be done, that our military be supplied with the best equipment, that old people be taken care of, that our debt be paid down, that food and water be safe, that our environment be clean, or that a billionaire gets a new yacht?

Here we go again. Another greedy liberal rationalizing "crimes" against society to justify their real motives which is GREED FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY!

You ever notice how it's some "conspiracy" to succeed in this country?

You know why liberals feel that way. BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER TO STOP THAT!

When people succeed anyway, liberals figure we have to be "cheating" somehow and that money should be taken away.

After all that's only "fair."

You ever notice things are only "fair" when liberals control what you earn and not YOU?

 

[Article 15]

If you believed it came from the private sector, you wouldn't be supporting Obama who is trying to destroy that private sector.

So, don't try it, you won't fool anyone!

You claimed liberals think wealth comes from the government because THEIR wealth comes from the government.

I'm telling you I am a liberal.

Now prove that my wealth comes from the government or admit you were talking out of your ass.

Ok, where does your wealth come from... enlighten us.

Money I earned from the private investment firm I work for that I saved and/or invested.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Here's how wealth comes from the government....

Who built the interstate highway system?
Private Contractors.

Who built the Hoover Dam?
Private citizens working for the The WPA

Who created the internet?
Leonard Kleinrock

Who educates our children?
Private schools... public schools indoctrinate children.

Who pays for the police department?
Citizen taxpayers.

Who pays for the fire department?
See above.

Who runs the postal system?
The USPS, at a huge deficit.

Who helps the old and the sick with Social Security and Medicare?
Doctors.

Who created Seal Team Six?
The U.S. Navy.

Who created NASA?
The U.S government?

Who supports MIT and Cal Tech and all of our other state universities?
Tuition payers. (note to self: CAL Tech & MIT are PRIVATE universities)

Glad to see you agree with me. Except for this, which you got wrong....

MIT was elected to the Association of American Universities in 1934 and remains a research university with a very high level of research activity;[29][135] research expenditures totaled $718.2 million in 2009.[12] The federal government was the largest source of sponsored research, with the Department of Health and Human Services granting $255.9 million, Department of Defense $97.5 million, Department of Energy $65.8 million, National Science Foundation $61.4 million, and NASA $27.4 million.[12]

The government does a lot of good things.

And who destroyed the economy twice in the last 80 years.....corporate greed.

Take another hit there Spicoli.

 

[teapartysamurai]

She hasn't figured out that Obama is just another corporate tool yet.

In other words, he's isn't moving us towards marxism fast enough for either of you!

I think it would be more accurate to say that you don't have the slightest idea what "marxism" is.

I'm pretty much an anarchist, by the way.

I haven't seen an "anarchist" out there that wasn't a "little totalitarianist" (as Sowell calls them) absolutely hating anyone that makes more than them. aka A MARXIST.

 

[teapartysamurai]

Yeah, there are idiots like TeePeeSpammer on the left as well.

I think we see the idiot when your only argument is claiming I said something not in evidence.

Pretty damn desperate!

Still waiting for you to admit you were talking you of your ass when you claim that my wealth comes from the governemnt...

Liberals think wealth comes from government, BECAUSE THEIR WEALTH COMES FROM GOVERNMENT.

Still waiting for you to explain how you can think otherwise if you back Obama?

Who's talking about their ass?

 

[Chris]

Care to take a shot at what the spammer failed to do and prove that my wealth comes from the government....you know, with me being a liberal and all.

Article15 proves another thing about liberals. They think the world just revolves around them, and ONLY them!

Narcissists are us = liberal!

In other words, "No, I can't prove that his wealth comes from the government even though he is a liberal and I said that's where their wealth comes from."

I already proved it.

Without an educated work force, police departments, fire departments, the interstate highway system, the internet, and university research, how much wealth would their be?

This mindless complaining about the gubermint is truely hurting our country and will ultimately bring it down.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

You claimed liberals think wealth comes from the government because THEIR wealth comes from the government.

I'm telling you I am a liberal.

Now prove that my wealth comes from the government or admit you were talking out of your ass.

Ok, where does your wealth come from... enlighten us.

Money I earned from the private investment firm I work for that I saved and/or invested.

Well, I can't repudiate that, so... ok. But I must admit, if so, your one of the few private sector success stories that prays at the government alter.

 

[Chris]

I think we see the idiot when your only argument is claiming I said something not in evidence.

Pretty damn desperate!

Still waiting for you to admit you were talking you of your ass when you claim that my wealth comes from the governemnt...

Liberals think wealth comes from government, BECAUSE THEIR WEALTH COMES FROM GOVERNMENT.

Still waiting for you to explain how you can think otherwise if you back Obama?

Who's talking about their ass?

You are.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

In other words, he's isn't moving us towards marxism fast enough for either of you!

I think it would be more accurate to say that you don't have the slightest idea what "marxism" is.

I'm pretty much an anarchist, by the way.

I haven't seen an "anarchist" out there that wasn't a "little totalitarianist" (as Sowell calls them) absolutely hating anyone that makes more than them. aka A MARXIST.

I think you might not understand what the word "anarchy" means. I guess we can add that to "marxism" in the "List of things that TeaPartySamurai doesn't understand".

 

[Chris]

Ok, where does your wealth come from... enlighten us.

Money I earned from the private investment firm I work for that I saved and/or invested.

Well, I can't repudiate that, so... ok. But I must admit, if so, your one of the few private sector success stories that prays at the government alter.

And what altar are you praying at?

 

[asterism]

yes... you are somewhat correct... liberals sometimes do have a static view of the economy. However... that static view is based in what we see around us. We see working people suffering... proposed cuts to programs they've been paying into their whole lives that will make them suffer MORE.... and the extremely rich sipping on their Gin and Tonics saying "why should I have to pay".

I'll tell you what... I'll meet you halfway. I'll give them their damned tax cuts... but I want guarantees that they will invest their money here instead of China or some other impoverished nation where they can get the equivalent of slave labor. Deal? yeah... didn't think so.

That's the problem with you idiots... you will sell your left nut to those holding us hostage. They want their tax breaks and the freedom to use it elsewhere... no fucking way... it's either one or the other.

I can guarantee you nothing regarding where money will be invested. The policies of the US government drive people to invest elsewhere. Our corporate tax rates send jobs overseas. Personal tax rates influence whether an investment will be made at all, here or overseas.

Working people ARE suffering. They are suffering because there are NOT ENOUGH JOBS! There are not enough jobs because the TAX RATES on people that CREATE JOBS are TOO FUCKING HIGH! Why cannot the numbnut liberals realize this?....Because they are STUPID...been drinking too much Kool-Aid!

you're full of shit. Do you think that a percentage point or three drop in taxes is going to make a dent in the labor rate... even at Minimum wage... that is a 700%+ increase in cost when you are looking at even $1/hour... and some are making less than that. add to it... that we only have a 2.5% import tariff. Taxes aren't the problem... it's greed, you moron.

I hired 3 people just based on a two year extension of current tax rates. Assuming the new venture grows, I'll hire 3 more before the end of the year. It's a cost/benefit analysis. Raise my costs with the same benefit, it's a higher risk.

Taxes and government spending are the problem, greed by those who don't produce.

You have NO clue what you people are asking. You are asking to bottom out our revenues to make the rich more money... and then not require them to have any accountability. What's to stop them from taking your tax cut... and Still outsourcing all over the 3rd world for slave labor? Loyalty? Bullshit... they've shown NONE so far.

It's not your money. History has shown that people who don't know how to make money don't know how to keep it. This isn't a situation where people are being kept down, it's a situation where those with the means to take a risk are opting out. Those who are unwilling to take a risk for themselves (like you) are throwing a hissyfit.

Maybe I shouldn't have hired those 3 people on a new venture after all. You have a "collective" view on commerce and I say that people want to work and want a fair wage. Was I wrong in taking the risk? I already pay my fair share.

All we heard from them when the 2011 budget battle was going on... don't let the Bush Tax Cuts expire on the "job creators"... so the Dems gave in and kept the Bush tax cut for 2 more years.... and there are still no significant amount of jobs being created.

True. The point wasn't to immediately create jobs, it was to stop the decline. It worked. There are no significant amount of jobs being created because this is still an environment that discourages taking risk.

You are an example of why people like me worry.

How many times do you have to play Charlie Brown to their Lucy.... they promise that "this time" they won't pull the ball out from under you.. honest!

That's funny. Should I fire some people now? You say the government needs more. I think the government has enough. Do you have the money to pay for your priorities?

These people are traitors and enemies of the state as far as I am concerned. I am tired of begging these people to trickle down. I fucking DEMAND that they do so.

Demand all you want. One thing is for sure, I won't hire you. If given the choice between doing well for my family or subscribing to your vision where some non-producer gets to call me an enemy of the state, I'll opt to provide for my family. Where does that leave you and the people I just hired?

 

[teapartysamurai]

Care to take a shot at what the spammer failed to do and prove that my wealth comes from the government....you know, with me being a liberal and all.

Article15 proves another thing about liberals. They think the world just revolves around them, and ONLY them!

Narcissists are us = liberal!

In other words, "No, I can't prove that his wealth comes from the government even though he is a liberal and I said that's where their wealth comes from."

Notice when you don't do exactly what liberals demand they claim you did it anyway and they "won?"

It's like trying to argue with a five year old!

Still waiting for you to explain how you can believe otherwise, if you back Obama?

You are trying to have it both ways and it isn't going to work.

 

[Article 15]

Who's talking about their ass?

Since I am one of millions of liberals who earn their living in the private sector......that would be you.

 

[teapartysamurai]

Here's how wealth comes from the government....

Who built the interstate highway system?

Who built the Hoover Dam?

Who created the internet?

Who educates our children?

Who pays for the police department?

Who pays for the fire department?

Who runs the postal system?

Who helps the old and the sick with Social Security and Medicare?

Who created Seal Team Six?

Who created NASA?

Who supports MIT and Cal Tech and all of our other state universities?

I can destroy this BS with one question!

WHO PAYS ALL THEIR SALARIES, DUMBASS?????

You think government just has money by magic??????

Idiots! Every single last liberal!

What are you 15?

I pay their salaries, and I am not a whinny little conservative pussy complaining that his taxes are too high.

Our taxes are too low. That's why we have a deficit.

Then those projects didn't create wealth idiot! It TOOK WEALTH from the economy to do them!

Government doesn't create wealth, it TAKES WEALTH.

 

[Article 15]

Article15 proves another thing about liberals. They think the world just revolves around them, and ONLY them!

Narcissists are us = liberal!

In other words, "No, I can't prove that his wealth comes from the government even though he is a liberal and I said that's where their wealth comes from."

Notice when you don't do exactly what liberals demand they claim you did it anyway and they "won?"

It's like trying to argue with a five year old!

Still waiting for you to explain how you can believe otherwise, if you back Obama?

You are trying to have it both ways and it isn't going to work.

You claimed liberals wealth comes from the government.

Liberals think wealth comes from government, BECAUSE THEIR WEALTH COMES FROM GOVERNMENT.

I am a liberal.

Prove to me that my wealth comes from the government.

You made the claim, not me.

Nut up.

 

[Chris]

Article15 proves another thing about liberals. They think the world just revolves around them, and ONLY them!

Narcissists are us = liberal!

In other words, "No, I can't prove that his wealth comes from the government even though he is a liberal and I said that's where their wealth comes from."

Notice when you don't do exactly what liberals demand they claim you did it anyway and they "won?"

It's like trying to argue with a five year old!

Still waiting for you to explain how you can believe otherwise, if you back Obama?

You are trying to have it both ways and it isn't going to work.

You didn't answer the question....

What is more important, that American children get an education, that our people get healthcare, that roads and bridges get fixed, that advanced materials research be done, that our military be supplied with the best equipment, that old people be taken care of, that our debt be paid down, that food and water be safe, that our environment be clean, or that a billionaire gets a new yacht?