"You have humiliated us"

[bripat9643]

BUT was it obligated to take them from him for political reasons? Our framers had TRUMP in mind when they gave us the impeachment process

I don't think John Brennan's political stance obligates the US government to maintain his security clearance. How the President feels about John Brennan's political stance doesn't obligate the US Government to maintain his security clearance. I understand you are pissed John Brennan got his wee-wee caught in his zipper trying to have a pissing contest with the President. The utter ignorance in that would suggest it might not be a good idea to trust him with sensitive material.

So your advice is for all intelligence people to keep their mouths shut and swear to trump loyalty...?

You might forget those people are there to protect America and Americans NOT kiss a lying presidents ass

Rather than protect Americans, what they did is attempt to stage a coup against a lawfully elected president. Any claims that these scum are patriots doesn't pass the laugh test. What they are supposed to do has no connection with what they did do.

 

[Hiryuu]

You might forget those people are there to protect America and Americans NOT kiss a lying presidents ass

Neither the President nor America is required to kiss John Brennan's lying ass either.

 

[bripat9643]

Everything Trump haters believe is based on no evidence whatsoever. Whenever they are asked about the evidence, they say "getting the evidence is not my job." Mueller will get the evidence. Thus they get to accuse Trump of crimes for which there isn't a shred of proof.

Do some reading Bri Get an education about the slimebag you support

House of Trump, House of Putin: The Untold Story of Donald Trump and the Russian Mafia
Craig UngerAugust 14, 2018
Penguin Random House Audio
Narrated by Jason Culp

11 hr 43 min
Switch to the ebook


"The story Unger weaves with those earlier accounts and his original reporting is fresh, illuminating and more alarming than the intelligence channel described in the Steele dossier."—The Washington Post

House of Trump, House of Putin offers the first comprehensive investigation into the decades-long relationship among Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin, and the Russian Mafia that ultimately helped win Trump the White House.

It is a chilling story that begins in the 1970s, when Trump made his first splash in the booming, money-drenched world of New York real estate, and ends with Trump’s inauguration as president of the United States. That moment was the culmination of Vladimir Putin’s long mission to undermine Western democracy, a mission that he and his hand-selected group of oligarchs and Mafia kingpins had ensnared Trump in, starting more than twenty years ago with the massive bailout of a string of sensational Trump hotel and casino failures in Atlantic City. This book confirms the most incredible American paranoias about Russian malevolence.

To most, it will be a hair-raising revelation that the Cold War did not end in 1991—that it merely evolved, with Trump’s apartments offering the perfect vehicle for billions of dollars to leave the collapsing Soviet Union. In House of Trump, House of Putin, Craig Unger methodically traces the deep-rooted alliance between the highest echelons of American political operatives and the biggest players in the frightening underworld of the Russian Mafia. He traces Donald Trump’s sordid ascent from foundering real estate tycoon to leader of the free world. He traces Russia’s phoenixlike rise from the ashes of the post–Cold War Soviet Union as well as its ceaseless covert efforts to retaliate against the West and reclaim its status as a global superpower.

Without Trump, Russia would have lacked a key component in its attempts to return to imperial greatness. Without Russia, Trump would not be president. This essential book is crucial to understanding the real powers at play in the shadows of today’s world.



READ MORE

So where's the evidence, dumbass?

Do you really need it presented to you on a silver platter?? The evidence is out there Put it together

It's out there but you can't describe it in a post on this forum? Why is it always someone else's job to dig up the evidence of Trump's guilt?

There is no evidence, dirtbag.

Why do you think he's kissing russia's and putins ass?? HE OWES THEM

Avoiding a nuclear exchange does not equate to "kissing Putin's ass."

 

[edward37]

So your advice is for all intelligence people to keep their mouths shut and swear to trump loyalty...?

My advice would be:

"If you get into a pissing contest with the person who controls your ability to maintain your security clearance and it gets yanked, don't start crying just because you chose to slam your dick in a door".

OK the truth isn't the truth ?? You and Guiliani

 

[Wry Catcher]

There is nothing that will lead to such realization. Conservatism is a cult. Never before has there been more evidence

Everything Trump haters believe is based on no evidence whatsoever. Whenever they are asked about the evidence, they say "getting the evidence is not my job." Mueller will get the evidence. Thus they get to accuse Trump of crimes for which there isn't a shred of proof.

Do some reading Bri Get an education about the slimebag you support

House of Trump, House of Putin: The Untold Story of Donald Trump and the Russian Mafia
Craig UngerAugust 14, 2018
Penguin Random House Audio
Narrated by Jason Culp

11 hr 43 min
Switch to the ebook


"The story Unger weaves with those earlier accounts and his original reporting is fresh, illuminating and more alarming than the intelligence channel described in the Steele dossier."—The Washington Post

House of Trump, House of Putin offers the first comprehensive investigation into the decades-long relationship among Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin, and the Russian Mafia that ultimately helped win Trump the White House.

It is a chilling story that begins in the 1970s, when Trump made his first splash in the booming, money-drenched world of New York real estate, and ends with Trump’s inauguration as president of the United States. That moment was the culmination of Vladimir Putin’s long mission to undermine Western democracy, a mission that he and his hand-selected group of oligarchs and Mafia kingpins had ensnared Trump in, starting more than twenty years ago with the massive bailout of a string of sensational Trump hotel and casino failures in Atlantic City. This book confirms the most incredible American paranoias about Russian malevolence.

To most, it will be a hair-raising revelation that the Cold War did not end in 1991—that it merely evolved, with Trump’s apartments offering the perfect vehicle for billions of dollars to leave the collapsing Soviet Union. In House of Trump, House of Putin, Craig Unger methodically traces the deep-rooted alliance between the highest echelons of American political operatives and the biggest players in the frightening underworld of the Russian Mafia. He traces Donald Trump’s sordid ascent from foundering real estate tycoon to leader of the free world. He traces Russia’s phoenixlike rise from the ashes of the post–Cold War Soviet Union as well as its ceaseless covert efforts to retaliate against the West and reclaim its status as a global superpower.

Without Trump, Russia would have lacked a key component in its attempts to return to imperial greatness. Without Russia, Trump would not be president. This essential book is crucial to understanding the real powers at play in the shadows of today’s world.



READ MORE

So where's the evidence, dumbass?

Do you really need it presented to you on a silver platter?? The evidence is out there Put it together

It's out there but you can't describe it in a post on this forum? Why is it always someone else's job to dig up the evidence of Trump's guilt?

There is no evidence, dirtbag.

There is evidence of consciousness of guilt in nearly every tweet and every remark Trump has presented, related to collusion, Mr Mueller and his team, and his oft made comments that the inquiry / investigation into Russia's cyber attack on our democracy is a partisan witch hunt.

Not only is consciousness of guilt apparent, Trump's remarks (foolish as they are) are evidence of his efforts to obstruct justice and to potentially impact the judgment of the jury in the Manifort Trial. His firing of Comey, et al, and consideration that he fire Mr. Mueller can also be seen as effort to obstruct justice.

That said (Consciousness of guilt) is not sufficient to convict, but can be considered by a jury when evaluating all of the evidence, much of which can be seen in Trump's own words.

 

[edward37]

You might forget those people are there to protect America and Americans NOT kiss a lying presidents ass

Neither the President nor America is required to kiss John Brennan's lying ass either.

True But imo only an idiot would believe trump over Comey Brennan etc etc ,,,Trump is a world class liar

 

[Hiryuu]

True But imo only an idiot would believe trump over Comey Brennan etc etc ,,,Trump is a world class liar

Who you or any other idiot wants to believe, in no way obligates the US Government to maintain John Brennan's security clearance.

I understand you are pissed the President bitch slapped John Brennan by yanking his security clearance, but that will never mean the US Government nor the American people are required to humor John Brennan.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

This very topic is about collaboration with intel officials to get FISA warrants...Right smack in the middle of an election.........Steele was fired for leaking the information to the Press. The same guy Comey almost paid for LOL

That is all a ludicrous distraction from the real issues. Trump provides this diversion and the far right wing Freedom Caucus in the House and Fox News promulgates the fallacy. Certain gullible Trump fans believe it because that don't want to think about the alternative. The FISA warrant was obtained legally for the third time. The Trump campaign collaborated with the Russians.

Who cares why Steele was fired? At this point it only matters how accurate his dossier is.

The intelligence community takes the allegations seriously and is investigating them.[14][15][16][17] As of May 2018, former career intelligence officer James Clapper believed that "more and more" of the dossier has been validated over time.[18] Some allegations have been corroborated,[19] while others remain unverified, and none are disproven

Trump–Russia dossier - Wikipedia

 

[edward37]

True But imo only an idiot would believe trump over Comey Brennan etc etc ,,,Trump is a world class liar

Who you or any other idiot wants to believe, in no way obligates the US Government to maintain John Brennan's security clearance.

I understand you are pissed the President bitch slapped John Brennan by yanking his security clearance, but that will never mean the US Government nor the American people are required to humor John Brennan.

I believe that more than half the voting public, those voting for Hillary, will listen quite closely to what Brennan will say Of course we know repub ears will be clogged

 

[Hiryuu]

I believe that more than half the voting public, those voting for Hillary, will listen quite closely to what Brennan will say Of course we know repub ears will be clogged

None of which will ever obligate the US Government to maintain John Brennan's security clearance.







By this time, you should be noticing that you really have nothing to offer as an argument. John Brennan screwed up, overplayed his hand, and got smacked for it. The crying he or anyone else wants to engage in probably has more to do with why John Brennan thought his stupid ass could get away with it. Certainly not a reason that would encourage me to recommend maintaining his security clearance.

 

[edward37]

You might forget those people are there to protect America and Americans NOT kiss a lying presidents ass

Neither the President nor America is required to kiss John Brennan's lying ass either.

True But imo only an idiot would believe trump over Comey Brennan etc etc ,,,Trump is a world class liar

Hiryuu do you really believe all repubs hate our media and intel people?? I don't and believe they'll be voting for Dems at least in the House

 

[edward37]

I believe that more than half the voting public, those voting for Hillary, will listen quite closely to what Brennan will say Of course we know repub ears will be clogged

None of which will ever obligate the US Government to maintain John Brennan's security clearance.







By this time, you should be noticing that you really have nothing to offer as an argument. John Brennan screwed up, overplayed his hand, and got smacked for it. The crying he or anyone else wants to engage in probably has more to do with why John Brennan thought his stupid ass could get away with it. Certainly not a reason that would encourage me to recommend maintaining his security clearance.

Lets see how far his law suits might go

 

[Flopper]

BUT was it obligated to take them from him for political reasons? Our framers had TRUMP in mind when they gave us the impeachment process

I don't think John Brennan's political stance obligates the US government to maintain his security clearance. How the President feels about John Brennan's political stance doesn't obligate the US Government to maintain his security clearance. I understand you are pissed John Brennan got his wee-wee caught in his zipper trying to have a pissing contest with the President. The utter ignorance in that would suggest it might not be a good idea to trust him with sensitive material.

Trump's actions are those of a vindictive president who is incapable of responding to critics other than attacking them.

Taking clearances away from former Intelligence people does not silence them nor damage them in any way. The clearance is not so much a benefit to the person. It’s more of a benefit to the particular government officials that would need some insight from times prior to them taking office. A person with a security clearance after leaving office doesn’t necessarily have access to any classified information unless a current agency requests it because access is on a need to know basis.

In other words, removing security clearances from former top intelligence officials creates a potential problem for the Intelligence community while giving these people a stronger voice to attack the president's policies.

 

[Hiryuu]

Hiryuu do you really believe all repubs hate our media and intel people?? I don't and believe they'll be voting for Dems at least in the House

What I believe about the media, the Republicans, Democrats, and all but a select few in the Intelligence Community (precisely the ones that control security clearances) will in no way obligate the US Government to maintain John Brennan's security clearance.

Note: You may notice that if you remove the one thing you keep saying shouldn't be considered, all you are left with is a never ending cycle of "nothing obligates the US Government to maintain John Brennan's security clearance". If you want to remove the politics from the decision, then remove it and deal with what you are left with. You aren't pissed about politics entering the decision to yank John Brennan's security clearance, you're pissed because he lost a pissing contest with the President.

 

[Hiryuu]

Trump's actions are those of a vindictive president who is incapable of responding to critics other than attacking them.

Taking clearances away from former Intelligence people does not silence them nor damage them in any way. The clearance is not so much a benefit to the person. It’s more of a benefit to the particular government officials that would need some insight from times prior to them taking office. A person with a security clearance after leaving office doesn’t necessarily have access to any classified information unless a current agency requests it because access is on a need to know basis.

In other words, removing security clearances from former top intelligence officials creates a potential problem for the Intelligence community while giving these people a stronger voice to attack the president's policies.

None of which obligates the US Government to maintain John Brennan's security clearance, and if you want to have a problem with that, I guess all I can say is "so what"? John Brennan rolled the dice, and lost the bet. I know quite a few people with security clearances that aren't cry because he shit his pants.

 

[edward37]

Hiryuu do you really believe all repubs hate our media and intel people?? I don't and believe they'll be voting for Dems at least in the House

What I believe about the media, the Republicans, Democrats, and all but a select few in the Intelligence Community (precisely the ones that control security clearances) will in no way obligate the US Government to maintain John Brennan's security clearance.

Note: You may notice that if you remove the one thing you keep saying shouldn't be considered, all you are left with is a never ending cycle of "nothing obligates the US Government to maintain John Brennan's security clearance". If you want to remove the politics from the decision, then remove it and deal with what you are left with. You aren't pissed about politics entering the decision to yank John Brennan's security clearance, you're pissed because he lost a pissing contest with the President.

There is NO OBLIGATION I agree Are you satisfied now?? Now lets see how the intel community takes it We already have a hint

 

[Hiryuu]

There is NO OBLIGATION I agree Are you satisfied now?? Now lets see how the intel community takes it We already have a hint

Neither whether or not you agree with me, nor whether or not I am satisfied, obligates the US Government to maintain John Brennan's security clearance. If the intelligence community wants to cry about it, they better use the proper channels, or they will find their ass on the curb with John Brennan.

Even in government, you can disagree as long as you use the proper channels to voice and address your concerns. John Brennan is just an example of what happens when you forget that little jewel.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Brennan has lied about spying on Congress to the public and the media. And WORSE he marketed the phony as shit Hillary/Russian document to the public 2 weeks before the election as an official "intel document". His role in that will be proved to be seditious in short order. "Telling it like it is" my ass.. He can rant all he wants. Only reason he's on TV daily is because his ass is gonna get put into interrogation soon.

I love the way you on Left now LOVE the CIA operating domestically in the USA. You hypocrites have come a LONG way since you ENDED Domestic American spying and pranking by the Intel agencies in the 70s. Now they are your friendly political pitbull..

I love how you Little Trumpsters almost ejaculate accusing anyone who highlights Trump’s incompetence and dishonesty, but completely ignore Trump verified pathological lies.
You have zero credibility and live in the land of hypocrisy.

I think equating exaggerating the size of his audiences PALLS COMPLETELY in comparison to an organized by you own US Intel agencies to influence an election..

I can survive a politician or entreprenuer lying and exaggerating. What Brennan was part this country MIGHT NOT survive. Orders of magnitude more troubling to find a concerted effort to stymie an opposition candidate using the awesome Intel powers of this country and then COORDINATING with the media and the opposition party to bring him down.

Priorities man. Priorities. Not even a Trump fan. If holdover Intel Imbeds in the Intel area did these things to punk OBAMA as he ran and got elected --- there'd Still be riots and blood in the streets. But you got the heavy artillery of the MSMedia on your side. Only reason you don't know shit about the seriousness of the situation...You've been kept in the dark and FED daily shit about Bunnies and porn stars and Omarosa.. Like GOOD mushrooms..,.

Well...here's the thing flac...and you aren't going to like hearing me.

Paragraph 1: I don't believe it. Frankly, if anyone has an argument in favor with that it's Clinton after Comey's handling and unprecedented public pronouncements concerning it. But Clinton has been thoroughly demonized by you lot until she is utterly unrecognizable. And before you jump on me, no - I don't think she is a stellar political representative or anything, but she is not as bad as you folks have worked to make her.

Paragraph 2: I don't think Brennan is as evil as you make him out to be either. And Trump is doing more than just lying or exagerating, he is now using the threat of security clearance revokation to get BACK at people, and possibly to end the Russia investigation. Who are his real targets? Not just Brennen. Ohr. Mueller. Worse - the many minor civil servants working on investigations, not just this one, who's livelyhoods depend on a security clearence. That is more worrisome imo.

Paragraph 3: I get that you hated Obama and love Trump. I can deal with that. But I don't believe for a second that the multitude of intelligence agencies from military to civilian are in on some sort of "coup" against Trump. Most are loyal civil servants who have transitioned through multiple administrations. Now suddenly - they are all "against" Trump?

Lastly, I don't pay much attention to Bunnies and porn stars and Omarosa (except I get a kick out of the fact that Trump is finally confronted by someone as ruthless and unethical as himself - Trump is out Trumped by her) - they are an amusing distraction, but seldom featured on the news I pay attention to.

Thanks for parroting all the usual Dim talking points. We would never have known what you thought if you hadn't told us.

Do you have anything to contribute to the actual topic Bri? It's your choice. Make a wise one.

Right back atcha.

Are you humiliated by the incessant perjury engaged in by the Inquisition? Are you humiliated by the treason Brennan engaged in as he spied on the Senate Intelligence Committee?

Nah, party above all.

 

[Flopper]

So your advice is for all intelligence people to keep their mouths shut and swear to trump loyalty...?

My advice would be:

"If you get into a pissing contest with the person who controls your ability to maintain your security clearance and it gets yanked, don't start crying just because you chose to slam your dick in a door".

Why? A security clearance is not a benefit to the person granted the clearance but for agency that needs their help.

It would be interesting to see which of the 13 criteria for revoking a security clearances is being specified and no pissing off the president is not one of them.
What are the Guidelines for Revoking a Security Clearance? - ClearanceJobs

 

[Uncensored2008]

16 members of the USMB found this OP funny, and by inference the American Hero. I wonder how many of them served our nation, in any capacity, let alone putting themselves in harms way.

What say you, members of the 16, why did you find this thread and this leader of brave men funny?

They still think it's fake news that Obama, Brennon, Panetta and McRaven killed bin Laden. Bush got him in 2005

#NotTheSharpestTools

Funny x 16

Tilly
koshergrl
ptbw forever
Jantje_Smit
The Breeze
Claudette
HereWeGoAgain
Grampa Murked U
CrusaderFrank
Intolerant
Deuces
Uncensored2008
Cellblock2429
GWV5903
HenryBHough
pismoe

Nah, little gay Barry had to struggle with whether he would allow the raid for 2 hours.

What role do you fantasize traitor Brennan played? Was the fucker trying to tip bin Laden off perhaps?