Zimmerman Trial Aftermath: Our subversive 'president' strikes again

[Meister]

very similar circumstances? Now I know you've gone over the edge

Sallow keep listening to the media instead of vetting the case himself. It IS very different.

Ah so..you have different sources then the Media?

Do tell.

You been on the phone with O'Mara? Had a sit down with Corey?

Maybe even had a heart to heart with Zimmerman.

Spill those beans, chief.

So you don't want to look at the actual evidence of that other case, huh?
Therein lies the problem with tools like you. You get your talking points from the echo chamber and run with them without any forethought.
You're a good little minion, Sal

 

[JoeB131]

execution stops em

Then why is it that states with the death penalty have a higher murder rate than those without?

Why is it the US has a higher murder rate than other industrialized countries, most of which have outlawed the death penalty.

We have a certain demographic that no one else has.

oooooh, really? And what "Demographic" might that be?

Really doesn't take much time for these folks to out themselves as racists, does it.

 

[JoeB131]

That proves he was shot, not motive. The law is set up for a fair trial, that is what Zimmerman got. He had a witness, you had cuts to the back of the head that led to "reasonable doubt."

Race was not an issue, the prosecution didn't think so either.

Yeah, I'm sure the White Lawyers and the White Judge and the White Jury didn't think race was that important at all.

One thing I've noticed in 51 years of life, is that White people are really great at denying the existence of racism.

One thing I have noticed in 53 years of life, all people are good at denying their racism and people that weren't there, that weren't at the trial, will take their on preconceived opinions and stick with them, in spite of the facts.

If the jurors were all as stupid a B-37, who said she made up her mind first day of the trial, it wasn't like they really listened.

Oh, but I hear the Jurors need consoling sessions now.

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah, I'm sure the White Lawyers and the White Judge and the White Jury didn't think race was that important at all.

One thing I've noticed in 51 years of life, is that White people are really great at denying the existence of racism.

One thing I have noticed in 53 years of life, all people are good at denying their racism and people that weren't there, that weren't at the trial, will take their on preconceived opinions and stick with them, in spite of the facts.

And what "facts" are those?

In the very same state, with the very same prosecutor and under very similar circumstances a woman was convicted and sentenced to 20 years in Jail.

Oh, it's a little worse than that.

The same state, the same prosecutor, a woman who DIDN'T ACTUALLY KILL ANYONE was sent to jail for 20 years for firing a warning shot at an abusive husband in her own home.

And she was black.

 

[Skull Pilot]

One thing I have noticed in 53 years of life, all people are good at denying their racism and people that weren't there, that weren't at the trial, will take their on preconceived opinions and stick with them, in spite of the facts.

And what "facts" are those?

In the very same state, with the very same prosecutor and under very similar circumstances a woman was convicted and sentenced to 20 years in Jail.

Oh, it's a little worse than that.

The same state, the same prosecutor, a woman who DIDN'T ACTUALLY KILL ANYONE was sent to jail for 20 years for firing a warning shot at an abusive husband in her own home.

And she was black.

You do not discharge a weapon into the air as a warning ever.

That round could have easily killed innocent bystanders.

If you are going to fire a weapon you fire it to hit a target.

Besides you are leaving out an important detail as usual.

That woman left the house and was in no imminent danger she returned with a gun drawn.

That negates self defense.

 

[jon_berzerk]

And what "facts" are those?

In the very same state, with the very same prosecutor and under very similar circumstances a woman was convicted and sentenced to 20 years in Jail.

Oh, it's a little worse than that.

The same state, the same prosecutor, a woman who DIDN'T ACTUALLY KILL ANYONE was sent to jail for 20 years for firing a warning shot at an abusive husband in her own home.

And she was black.

You do not discharge a weapon into the air as a warning ever.

That round could have easily killed innocent bystanders.

If you are going to fire a weapon you fire it to hit a target.

Besides you are leaving out an important detail as usual.

That woman left the house and was in no imminent danger she returned with a gun drawn.

That negates self defense.

You do not discharge a weapon into the air as a warning ever.

you know that and i know that

however vice prezbo biden

gave that exact advice at a presser

 

[JoeB131]

And what "facts" are those?

In the very same state, with the very same prosecutor and under very similar circumstances a woman was convicted and sentenced to 20 years in Jail.

Oh, it's a little worse than that.

The same state, the same prosecutor, a woman who DIDN'T ACTUALLY KILL ANYONE was sent to jail for 20 years for firing a warning shot at an abusive husband in her own home.

And she was black.

You do not discharge a weapon into the air as a warning ever.

That round could have easily killed innocent bystanders.

If you are going to fire a weapon you fire it to hit a target.

Besides you are leaving out an important detail as usual.

That woman left the house and was in no imminent danger she returned with a gun drawn.

That negates self defense.

Oh, wait. Are you saying that taking an action negates any claim of self-defense?

You know, like ignoring a dispatchers instruction not to follow? Or not identifying yourself as Community Watch? Or running after the subject? You know THOSE kinds of things?

Hmmm.... Sounds like you want one legal standard for regular folks and another for the Darkies.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Oh, it's a little worse than that.

The same state, the same prosecutor, a woman who DIDN'T ACTUALLY KILL ANYONE was sent to jail for 20 years for firing a warning shot at an abusive husband in her own home.

And she was black.

You do not discharge a weapon into the air as a warning ever.

That round could have easily killed innocent bystanders.

If you are going to fire a weapon you fire it to hit a target.

Besides you are leaving out an important detail as usual.

That woman left the house and was in no imminent danger she returned with a gun drawn.

That negates self defense.

Oh, wait. Are you saying that taking an action negates any claim of self-defense?

You know, like ignoring a dispatchers instruction not to follow? Or not identifying yourself as Community Watch? Or running after the subject? You know THOSE kinds of things?

Hmmm.... Sounds like you want one legal standard for regular folks and another for the Darkies.

She was out of the house and returned with a gun. At that point she was the aggressor.

If Zimmerman had left after getting punched, went to his car and then came back with a gun he would not have had a self defense claim either.

It's not a difficult concept to grasp well at least not for anyone with an IQ of 80 or better that is.

 

[JoeB131]

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She was out of the house and returned with a gun. At that point she was the aggressor.

If Zimmerman had left after getting punched, went to his car and then came back with a gun he would not have had a self defense claim either.

It's not a difficult concept to grasp well at least not for anyone with an IQ of 80 or better that is.

Zimmerman chased the kid after being told not to do that.

That negates any claim he has to self defense.

Again. One standard for white people. The one were they get every benefit of the doubt.

One for the Darkies. Just assume they are guilty of something.

I'm honestly hoping that someone with a bit of common sense reviews this woman's conviction.

 

[Geaux4it]

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She was out of the house and returned with a gun. At that point she was the aggressor.

If Zimmerman had left after getting punched, went to his car and then came back with a gun he would not have had a self defense claim either.

It's not a difficult concept to grasp well at least not for anyone with an IQ of 80 or better that is.

Zimmerman chased the kid after being told not to do that.

That negates any claim he has to self defense.

Again. One standard for white people. The one were they get every benefit of the doubt.

One for the Darkies. Just assume they are guilty of something.

I'm honestly hoping that someone with a bit of common sense reviews this woman's conviction.

The facts are that when Trayvon made his call to his ebonic friend, he was very close to his Dad’s house. He then for unknown reasons, went back quite some distance to confront Zimmerman.

Fatal mistake on his part

-Geaux

 

[Skull Pilot]

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She was out of the house and returned with a gun. At that point she was the aggressor.

If Zimmerman had left after getting punched, went to his car and then came back with a gun he would not have had a self defense claim either.

It's not a difficult concept to grasp well at least not for anyone with an IQ of 80 or better that is.

Zimmerman chased the kid after being told not to do that.

Not illegal

That negates any claim he has to self defense.

No

Again. One standard for white people. The one were they get every benefit of the doubt.

The standard for self defense does not include fleeing the area and later returning with a weapon drawn.

 

[Mac1958]

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As with all issues that become politicized, both "ends" of this debate are ignoring all facts that don't support their position. I never know whether they are purposely ignoring all the facts or whether their ideology somehow short-circuits their intellectual capacity to do so, that's always been a source of fascination to me.

Two young guys did stupid things. Both of them. One of the guys had a legal gun in a legal situation and (per proper legal proceedings) used it legally. The other guy is dead as a result. I have no doubt the guy with the gun wishes the whole fucking thing hadn't happened, that he had found something better to do that night.

It's a shitty, tragic situation that does not lend itself to simple answers, yet it has become a simplistic political pawn for no other reason than the color of the young guys' skin.

That won't stop the insults and finger-pointing, of course, because the race pimps and the division pimps have done such a good job that insults and finger-pointing are ingrained in our public discourse. We're playing right into their game like good little sheep, and I'm sure they appreciate it every time they check their bank account balances. God damn.

The decay continues.

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[JoeB131]

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The facts are that when Trayvon made his call to his ebonic friend, he was very close to his Dad’s house. He then for unknown reasons, went back quite some distance to confront Zimmerman.

Fatal mistake on his part

-Geaux

Yes, it was.

Just like walking in a crime infested neighborhood often is a fatal mistake.

But it doesn't mean you don't hold the people who commit crimes blameless for them.

 

[Geaux4it]

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The facts are that when Trayvon made his call to his ebonic friend, he was very close to his Dad’s house. He then for unknown reasons, went back quite some distance to confront Zimmerman.

Fatal mistake on his part

-Geaux

Yes, it was.

Just like walking in a crime infested neighborhood often is a fatal mistake.

But it doesn't mean you don't hold the people who commit crimes blameless for them.

It was not proven GZ committed a crime or he would be in jail.

-Geaux

 

[JoeB131]

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As with all issues that become politicized, both "ends" of this debate are ignoring all facts that don't support their position. I never know whether they are purposely ignoring all the facts or whether their ideology somehow short-circuits their intellectual capacity to do so, that's always been a source of fascination to me.

Two young guys did stupid things. Both of them. One of the guys had a legal gun in a legal situation and (per proper legal proceedings) used it legally. The other guy is dead as a result. I have no doubt the guy with the gun wishes the whole fucking thing hadn't happened, that he had found something better to do that night.

It's a shitty, tragic situation that does not lend itself to simple answers, yet it has become a simplistic political pawn for no other reason than the color of the young guys' skin.

That won't stop the insults and finger-pointing, of course, because the race pimps and the division pimps have done such a good job that insults and finger-pointing are ingrained in our public discourse. We're playing right into their game like good little sheep, and I'm sure they appreciate it every time they check their bank account balances. God damn.

The decay continues.

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Both of them made bad decisions.

Only one of them paid for his bad decisions.

If the race pimps are making hay over tihs, it is because the system didn't do it's job.

And it's attempts to correct their initial mistakes proved wholely inadequate.

For instance, because Zimmerman was not drug tested at the time of the shooting, we will never know what role the two prescription drugs he was on played in the indicents. The ones that cause aggression, anxiety and in some cases, hallucinations.

If Trayvon were white, there would have been an investigation. they wouldn't have just dumped him in the morgue and wait for someone to file a missing person's report.

 

[JoeB131]

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The facts are that when Trayvon made his call to his ebonic friend, he was very close to his Dad’s house. He then for unknown reasons, went back quite some distance to confront Zimmerman.

Fatal mistake on his part

-Geaux

Yes, it was.

Just like walking in a crime infested neighborhood often is a fatal mistake.

But it doesn't mean you don't hold the people who commit crimes blameless for them.

It was not proven GZ committed a crime or he would be in jail.

-Geaux

No, it proves that when you make up a jury of stupid white people like juror B-37, your chances of getting justice are pretty slim.

 

[Geaux4it]

Yes, it was.

Just like walking in a crime infested neighborhood often is a fatal mistake.

But it doesn't mean you don't hold the people who commit crimes blameless for them.

It was not proven GZ committed a crime or he would be in jail.

-Geaux

No, it proves that when you make up a jury of stupid white people like juror B-37, your chances of getting justice are pretty slim.

Perhaps- But it is what it is. The only system we have. Both the prosecution and the defense agreed on the composition of the jury

-Geaux

 

[Edgetho]

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The facts are that when Trayvon made his call to his ebonic friend, he was very close to his Dad’s house. He then for unknown reasons, went back quite some distance to confront Zimmerman.

Fatal mistake on his part

-Geaux

Yes, it was.

Just like walking in a crime infested neighborhood often is a fatal mistake.

But it doesn't mean you don't hold the people who commit crimes blameless for them.

Get over it, little girl.

St Skittles is dead and he's going to stay that way. Z is free and he's going to stay that way.

Don't fuck around in Florida. Some nasty-ass Cracker will put you in the ground.

Quick.

And as far as Z having to hide? That's a joke.

There are places down here, with gated communities, where the whole town is so high-end, the Cops will stop you for a stray thought and beat your ass for saying the wrong thing......

This is Florida. We, most of us, ran away from the crime, filth, disease, corruption and insanity of the North and built something the right way. The way we wanted it.

We made a paradise out of swamps and mosquito-infested wetlands.

Don't come down here and try to tell us how to live. You won't like what happens to you.

Stay up there in that crime-infested, dirty, filthy, cold, dark, windy, nasty, disgusting, corrupt Murder Capitol of the Universe where, during the Month long Zimmerman trial, there were 61 Murders alone. 52 of whom were Black. And the vast majority of which died of gunshot wounds.

Clean up that pushole you live in before you start preaching to anybody about how to live.

BTW, News-Flash!!!

St Skittles is still dead.

And George Zimmerman is still a Free Man.

 

[JoeB131]

It was not proven GZ committed a crime or he would be in jail.

-Geaux

No, it proves that when you make up a jury of stupid white people like juror B-37, your chances of getting justice are pretty slim.

Perhaps- But it is what it is. The only system we have. Both the prosecution and the defense agreed on the composition of the jury

-Geaux

Good point. When the state fucks it up, that's when you need the feds to step in.

 

[JoeB131]

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The facts are that when Trayvon made his call to his ebonic friend, he was very close to his Dad’s house. He then for unknown reasons, went back quite some distance to confront Zimmerman.

Fatal mistake on his part

-Geaux

Yes, it was.

Just like walking in a crime infested neighborhood often is a fatal mistake.

But it doesn't mean you don't hold the people who commit crimes blameless for them.

Get over it, little girl.

St Skittles is dead and he's going to stay that way. Z is free and he's going to stay that way.

Don't fuck around in Florida. Some nasty-ass Cracker will put you in the ground.

Quick.

And as far as Z having to hide? That's a joke.

There are places down here, with gated communities, where the whole town is so high-end, the Cops will stop you for a stray thought and beat your ass for saying the wrong thing......

This is Florida. We, most of us, ran away from the crime, filth, disease, corruption and insanity of the North and built something the right way. The way we wanted it.

We made a paradise out of swamps and mosquito-infested wetlands.

Don't come down here and try to tell us how to live. You won't like what happens to you.

Stay up there in that crime-infested, dirty, filthy, cold, dark, windy, nasty, disgusting, corrupt Murder Capitol of the Universe where, during the Month long Zimmerman trial, there were 61 Murders alone. 52 of whom were Black. And the vast majority of which died of gunshot wounds.

Clean up that pushole you live in before you start preaching to anybody about how to live.

BTW, News-Flash!!!

St Skittles is still dead.

And George Zimmerman is still a Free Man.

Frankly, other than the weather, Florida actually sounds like a pretty horrible place. Nice place to visit, but you wouldn't want to live there.

Zimmerman's going down. The feds will do what your cracker state couldn't accomplish.