100,000 people shot in the US per year! Good guy saving lives?

[rightwinger]

Do 100,000 people get shot every year in U.S.? Facebook post says yes

 

[BrokeLoser]

100,000 people are shot in the USA every year!

How many were shot by a good guy with a gun saving lives?

The only good guys / hero's are the the people saving more & more lives of gunshot victims thereby reducing the murder rate. Gee I wonder why medical cost keep rising?

Better check your numbers, unless you rely on Facebook for your news.

The first is data for deaths by guns, which is included in an annual report about deaths of all types during calendar year 2009. The numbers for gun deaths is broken down into several categories:

Suicide: 18,735 deaths
Homicide: 11,493 deaths
Unintentional: 554 deaths
Legal interventions: 333 deaths
Undetermined: 232 deaths

Total: 31,347 deaths

The second data set tracks non-fatal injuries by guns. According to the CDC, there were 73,505 non-fatal firearm injuries in 2010. (We will ignore an additional 13,851 non-fatal injuries from BB or pellet guns.)

How accurate is the Facebook post?

If you add together the gun deaths and the non-fatal gun injuries, you get 104,852 people shot in a year. That’s very close to the 1000,000 the Facebook post said.

------------------------------------------------------------ so 18 thousand suiciders , they don't count as they'll just kill themselves in a different fashion . Legal interventions are also cool and don't count and non fatal doesn't count either . All in ALL thats pretty good for a country of 330 million of all sorts in the USA . How many die yearly traveling Americas highways and byways Kiss .

Non fatal doesn't count? Imagine the medical bills. How many cripples created?

You ignorant fools are so fascinating....Suddenly you’re concerned with medical bills/costs and people dying by gun...hahaha...funny shit.
Favor the idea of running out your beloved 12-40 million illegal wetbacks first....then you’ll have a right to whine about medical expense and criminality....until then...shut the fuck up...nobody takes you serious...you have no credibility.

 

[KissMy]

100,000 people are shot in the USA every year!

How many were shot by a good guy with a gun saving lives?

The only good guys / hero's are the the people saving more & more lives of gunshot victims thereby reducing the murder rate. Gee I wonder why medical cost keep rising?

Better check your numbers, unless you rely on Facebook for your news.

The first is data for deaths by guns, which is included in an annual report about deaths of all types during calendar year 2009. The numbers for gun deaths is broken down into several categories:

Suicide: 18,735 deaths
Homicide: 11,493 deaths
Unintentional: 554 deaths
Legal interventions: 333 deaths
Undetermined: 232 deaths

Total: 31,347 deaths

The second data set tracks non-fatal injuries by guns. According to the CDC, there were 73,505 non-fatal firearm injuries in 2010. (We will ignore an additional 13,851 non-fatal injuries from BB or pellet guns.)

How accurate is the Facebook post?

If you add together the gun deaths and the non-fatal gun injuries, you get 104,852 people shot in a year. That’s very close to the 1000,000 the Facebook post said.

------------------------------------------------------------ so 18 thousand suiciders , they don't count as they'll just kill themselves in a different fashion . Legal interventions are also cool and don't count and non fatal doesn't count either . All in ALL thats pretty good for a country of 330 million of all sorts in the USA . How many die yearly traveling Americas highways and byways Kiss .

Non fatal doesn't count? Imagine the medical bills. How many cripples created?

You ignorant fools are so fascinating....Suddenly you’re concerned with medical bills/costs and people dying by gun...hahaha...funny shit.
Favor the idea of running out your beloved 12-40 million illegal wetbacks first....then you’ll have a right to whine about medical expense and criminality....until then...shut the fuck up...nobody takes you serious...you have no credibility.

STFU! - You Republicans invited the wetbacks & gave them Amnesty creating an unstopple migration to punish US Worker Unions. Now you Cry, Bitch & Moan about it! Trump is deporting fewer!!!!

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Better check your numbers, unless you rely on Facebook for your news.

The first is data for deaths by guns, which is included in an annual report about deaths of all types during calendar year 2009. The numbers for gun deaths is broken down into several categories:

Suicide: 18,735 deaths
Homicide: 11,493 deaths
Unintentional: 554 deaths
Legal interventions: 333 deaths
Undetermined: 232 deaths

Total: 31,347 deaths

The second data set tracks non-fatal injuries by guns. According to the CDC, there were 73,505 non-fatal firearm injuries in 2010. (We will ignore an additional 13,851 non-fatal injuries from BB or pellet guns.)

How accurate is the Facebook post?

If you add together the gun deaths and the non-fatal gun injuries, you get 104,852 people shot in a year. That’s very close to the 1000,000 the Facebook post said.

Suicides don't count because those people wanted to get shot. So then the issue breaks down to why were the rest of the people shot. Most of the murders were the result of gang violence. The same problably goes for the non fatal injuries. Then there are hunting accidents, which probably constitute a big percentage of the total. There are also a lot that are the result of crime. Either the perp was shot by the police or the perp shot one or more victims. I haven't found any statistics on this, so it's dififcult to draw any conclusions.

In 2009 legal interventions (shooting a criminal) = 333 deaths out of the 100,000 good citizens shot. Yea that is so worth it! Why not keep guns away from crazies? Or not sell any more reliable guns with quick change magazines WMD's? That way if a crazy gets a gun he can't endlessly reload shooting 600 people in less than 10 minutes?

I never heard of a quick change magazine. What is that exactly?

 

[2aguy]

Do 100,000 people get shot every year in U.S.? Facebook post says yes

Americans use their legal guns 1,500,000 times a year to stop violent criminal attack.....rapes, robberies and murder...
Which number is bigger?

The benefits of an normal people owning and carrying guns for self defense far outweigh the criminal acts done by criminals that democrats keep letting out of jail....if democrats really cared about lowering gun crime, you would think they would keep gun criminals in jail.....


And here we see lives saved, and lives not destroyed......because normal people in this country can own and carry guns...

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...



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-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[JBond]

Better check your numbers, unless you rely on Facebook for your news.

The first is data for deaths by guns, which is included in an annual report about deaths of all types during calendar year 2009. The numbers for gun deaths is broken down into several categories:

Suicide: 18,735 deaths
Homicide: 11,493 deaths
Unintentional: 554 deaths
Legal interventions: 333 deaths
Undetermined: 232 deaths

Total: 31,347 deaths

The second data set tracks non-fatal injuries by guns. According to the CDC, there were 73,505 non-fatal firearm injuries in 2010. (We will ignore an additional 13,851 non-fatal injuries from BB or pellet guns.)

How accurate is the Facebook post?

If you add together the gun deaths and the non-fatal gun injuries, you get 104,852 people shot in a year. That’s very close to the 1000,000 the Facebook post said.

Next time, before posting a bunch of garbage, you should read the reports you are babbling about.

 

[BrokeLoser]

100,000 people are shot in the USA every year!

How many were shot by a good guy with a gun saving lives?

The only good guys / hero's are the the people saving more & more lives of gunshot victims thereby reducing the murder rate. Gee I wonder why medical cost keep rising?

Better check your numbers, unless you rely on Facebook for your news.

The first is data for deaths by guns, which is included in an annual report about deaths of all types during calendar year 2009. The numbers for gun deaths is broken down into several categories:

Suicide: 18,735 deaths
Homicide: 11,493 deaths
Unintentional: 554 deaths
Legal interventions: 333 deaths
Undetermined: 232 deaths

Total: 31,347 deaths

The second data set tracks non-fatal injuries by guns. According to the CDC, there were 73,505 non-fatal firearm injuries in 2010. (We will ignore an additional 13,851 non-fatal injuries from BB or pellet guns.)

How accurate is the Facebook post?

If you add together the gun deaths and the non-fatal gun injuries, you get 104,852 people shot in a year. That’s very close to the 1000,000 the Facebook post said.

------------------------------------------------------------ so 18 thousand suiciders , they don't count as they'll just kill themselves in a different fashion . Legal interventions are also cool and don't count and non fatal doesn't count either . All in ALL thats pretty good for a country of 330 million of all sorts in the USA . How many die yearly traveling Americas highways and byways Kiss .

Non fatal doesn't count? Imagine the medical bills. How many cripples created?

You ignorant fools are so fascinating....Suddenly you’re concerned with medical bills/costs and people dying by gun...hahaha...funny shit.
Favor the idea of running out your beloved 12-40 million illegal wetbacks first....then you’ll have a right to whine about medical expense and criminality....until then...shut the fuck up...nobody takes you serious...you have no credibility.

You Republicans invited the wetbacks & gave them Amnesty to punish Unions. Now you Cry, Bitch & Moan about it! Trump is deporting fewer!!!!

NEGATIVE...try again.
Are you ever right about anything?
Arrests of immigrants, especially non-criminals, way up in Trump's first year - CNNPolitics
2.5 Million Join Illegal Population under Obama

 

[2aguy]

Better check your numbers, unless you rely on Facebook for your news.

The first is data for deaths by guns, which is included in an annual report about deaths of all types during calendar year 2009. The numbers for gun deaths is broken down into several categories:

Suicide: 18,735 deaths
Homicide: 11,493 deaths
Unintentional: 554 deaths
Legal interventions: 333 deaths
Undetermined: 232 deaths

Total: 31,347 deaths

The second data set tracks non-fatal injuries by guns. According to the CDC, there were 73,505 non-fatal firearm injuries in 2010. (We will ignore an additional 13,851 non-fatal injuries from BB or pellet guns.)

How accurate is the Facebook post?

If you add together the gun deaths and the non-fatal gun injuries, you get 104,852 people shot in a year. That’s very close to the 1000,000 the Facebook post said.

Suicides don't count because those people wanted to get shot. So then the issue breaks down to why were the rest of the people shot. Most of the murders were the result of gang violence. The same problably goes for the non fatal injuries. Then there are hunting accidents, which probably constitute a big percentage of the total. There are also a lot that are the result of crime. Either the perp was shot by the police or the perp shot one or more victims. I haven't found any statistics on this, so it's dififcult to draw any conclusions.

In 2009 legal interventions (shooting a criminal) = 333 deaths out of the 100,000 good citizens shot. Yea that is so worth it! Why not keep guns away from crazies? Or not sell any more reliable guns with quick change magazines WMD's? That way if a crazy gets a gun he can't endlessly reload shooting 600 people in less than 10 minutes?

Rental trucks are deadlier than guns.....the terrorist in Nice, France used a rental truck to murder 86 people in 5 minutes...no mass public shooting in the United States, ever, has killed that many people in one attack, in fact that attack killed more people than mass shootings combined in every year for 35 years, except for 2017......

Do you want to ban rental trucks?

 

[KissMy]

100,000 people are shot in the USA every year!

How many were shot by a good guy with a gun saving lives?

The only good guys / hero's are the the people saving more & more lives of gunshot victims thereby reducing the murder rate. Gee I wonder why medical cost keep rising?

The first is data for deaths by guns, which is included in an annual report about deaths of all types during calendar year 2009. The numbers for gun deaths is broken down into several categories:

Suicide: 18,735 deaths
Homicide: 11,493 deaths
Unintentional: 554 deaths
Legal interventions: 333 deaths
Undetermined: 232 deaths

Total: 31,347 deaths

The second data set tracks non-fatal injuries by guns. According to the CDC, there were 73,505 non-fatal firearm injuries in 2010. (We will ignore an additional 13,851 non-fatal injuries from BB or pellet guns.)

How accurate is the Facebook post?

If you add together the gun deaths and the non-fatal gun injuries, you get 104,852 people shot in a year. That’s very close to the 1000,000 the Facebook post said.

------------------------------------------------------------ so 18 thousand suiciders , they don't count as they'll just kill themselves in a different fashion . Legal interventions are also cool and don't count and non fatal doesn't count either . All in ALL thats pretty good for a country of 330 million of all sorts in the USA . How many die yearly traveling Americas highways and byways Kiss .

Non fatal doesn't count? Imagine the medical bills. How many cripples created?

You ignorant fools are so fascinating....Suddenly you’re concerned with medical bills/costs and people dying by gun...hahaha...funny shit.
Favor the idea of running out your beloved 12-40 million illegal wetbacks first....then you’ll have a right to whine about medical expense and criminality....until then...shut the fuck up...nobody takes you serious...you have no credibility.

You Republicans invited the wetbacks & gave them Amnesty to punish Unions. Now you Cry, Bitch & Moan about it! Trump is deporting fewer!!!!

NEGATIVE...try again.
Are you ever right about anything?
Arrests of immigrants, especially non-criminals, way up in Trump's first year - CNNPolitics
2.5 Million Join Illegal Population under Obama

Yes Trump arrested more so you could pay more! DUH!!! But Trump is not deporting them you stupid Repubtard!!!

 

[2aguy]

Chicago is the center of gun violence and has very strict Gun Laws. So what's causing this Lib Democrat run city's high murder rate? What exactly is the mayor doing to stem the flow of murders?

Total bullshit. Chicago don't rank in the top 15 violent homicide crime cities. St. Louis is the worst & they have the least restrictive gun laws in the country & the highest number of police per resident of any city except DC. The problem are the cops who only police for profit by ignoring destitute violent thieves & heavily ticketing home owners & people driving vehicles.

The police costing more than the criminals.

Hey....dipshit....the mayors of St. Louis have been exclusively democrats since 1953......

Mayor of St. Louis - Wikipedia

You idiots keep claiming guns lower crime / keep US safer, now when the facts prove that wrong you switched to blaming democrats & mayors! LOL!!! Those democrat mayors are not stripping the criminals of their 2nd amendment rights like the republicans force them to do.

The problem is democrats lettting criminals out of jail over and over again even when they are violent gun criminals...that is the problem, not law abiding gun owners....


We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...



--------
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

100,000 people are shot in the USA every year!

How many were shot by a good guy with a gun saving lives?

The only good guys / hero's are the the people saving more & more lives of gunshot victims thereby reducing the murder rate. Gee I wonder why medical cost keep rising?

------------------------------------------------------------ so 18 thousand suiciders , they don't count as they'll just kill themselves in a different fashion . Legal interventions are also cool and don't count and non fatal doesn't count either . All in ALL thats pretty good for a country of 330 million of all sorts in the USA . How many die yearly traveling Americas highways and byways Kiss .

Non fatal doesn't count? Imagine the medical bills. How many cripples created?

You ignorant fools are so fascinating....Suddenly you’re concerned with medical bills/costs and people dying by gun...hahaha...funny shit.
Favor the idea of running out your beloved 12-40 million illegal wetbacks first....then you’ll have a right to whine about medical expense and criminality....until then...shut the fuck up...nobody takes you serious...you have no credibility.

You Republicans invited the wetbacks & gave them Amnesty to punish Unions. Now you Cry, Bitch & Moan about it! Trump is deporting fewer!!!!

NEGATIVE...try again.
Are you ever right about anything?
Arrests of immigrants, especially non-criminals, way up in Trump's first year - CNNPolitics
2.5 Million Join Illegal Population under Obama

Yes Trump arrested more so you could pay more! DUH!!! But Trump is not deporting them you stupid Repubtard!!!

Many less are coming across the border.

 

[KissMy]

Better check your numbers, unless you rely on Facebook for your news.

The first is data for deaths by guns, which is included in an annual report about deaths of all types during calendar year 2009. The numbers for gun deaths is broken down into several categories:

Suicide: 18,735 deaths
Homicide: 11,493 deaths
Unintentional: 554 deaths
Legal interventions: 333 deaths
Undetermined: 232 deaths

Total: 31,347 deaths

The second data set tracks non-fatal injuries by guns. According to the CDC, there were 73,505 non-fatal firearm injuries in 2010. (We will ignore an additional 13,851 non-fatal injuries from BB or pellet guns.)

How accurate is the Facebook post?

If you add together the gun deaths and the non-fatal gun injuries, you get 104,852 people shot in a year. That’s very close to the 1000,000 the Facebook post said.

Suicides don't count because those people wanted to get shot. So then the issue breaks down to why were the rest of the people shot. Most of the murders were the result of gang violence. The same problably goes for the non fatal injuries. Then there are hunting accidents, which probably constitute a big percentage of the total. There are also a lot that are the result of crime. Either the perp was shot by the police or the perp shot one or more victims. I haven't found any statistics on this, so it's dififcult to draw any conclusions.

In 2009 legal interventions (shooting a criminal) = 333 deaths out of the 100,000 good citizens shot. Yea that is so worth it! Why not keep guns away from crazies? Or not sell any more reliable guns with quick change magazines WMD's? That way if a crazy gets a gun he can't endlessly reload shooting 600 people in less than 10 minutes?

Rental trucks are deadlier than guns.....the terrorist in Nice, France used a rental truck to murder 86 people in 5 minutes...no mass public shooting in the United States, ever, has killed that many people in one attack, in fact that attack killed more people than mass shootings combined in every year for 35 years, except for 2017......

Do you want to ban rental trucks?

No! - Just Ban Crazies from Driving, Flying, Hazardous Chemicals, Explosives & Guns!

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

100,000 people are shot in the USA every year!

How many were shot by a good guy with a gun saving lives?

The only good guys / hero's are the the people saving more & more lives of gunshot victims thereby reducing the murder rate. Gee I wonder why medical cost keep rising?

------------------------------------------------------------ so 18 thousand suiciders , they don't count as they'll just kill themselves in a different fashion . Legal interventions are also cool and don't count and non fatal doesn't count either . All in ALL thats pretty good for a country of 330 million of all sorts in the USA . How many die yearly traveling Americas highways and byways Kiss .

Non fatal doesn't count? Imagine the medical bills. How many cripples created?

You ignorant fools are so fascinating....Suddenly you’re concerned with medical bills/costs and people dying by gun...hahaha...funny shit.
Favor the idea of running out your beloved 12-40 million illegal wetbacks first....then you’ll have a right to whine about medical expense and criminality....until then...shut the fuck up...nobody takes you serious...you have no credibility.

You Republicans invited the wetbacks & gave them Amnesty to punish Unions. Now you Cry, Bitch & Moan about it! Trump is deporting fewer!!!!

NEGATIVE...try again.
Are you ever right about anything?
Arrests of immigrants, especially non-criminals, way up in Trump's first year - CNNPolitics
2.5 Million Join Illegal Population under Obama

Yes Trump arrested more so you could pay more! DUH!!! But Trump is not deporting them you stupid Repubtard!!!

WINNING: 30% More Illegals Going Home in 2017 | Breitbart

Reps. McCaul, Goodlatte: Better border security and immigration enforcement is on the way

 

[2aguy]

It's not even the same thing. Polls asking 100,000 people if they like Trump / America, etc is shown in percentages of YES vs NO like 33% vs 66%. At least 10% on each side LIE canceling most of the liars out, creating a ~3% error margin.

Can you name me one poll that ever polled anywhere near 100,000 people?

Poll people who had a gun pulled on them & most will say it was unjustified. Nearly every prisoner claim they are innocent. Just like nearly everyone who pulls a gun says it was justified.

If it's not justified, then it's a criminal offense and should be reported. As my earlier post showed, CCW holders are the most law abiding citizens in this country. Why would any law abiding citizen pull a gun on anybody other than self-defense?

There are only two reasons to use a gun: to attack somebody or to defend yourself or others.

A large percent of CCW holders on this message board say they lie to pollsters. Less than 1% ever actually pulled a gun on someone in self defense. So very few could have actually pulled a gun on someone in self defense & said they did not.

In my 52 year life I have personally witnessed ~10 people other than police or suicides, pull a gun on someone and none were justified self defense.

Hmmm, well I'm older than you and never personally seen a person pull a gun on anybody, and hell, I live in the eastern suburbs of Cleveland.

But if you want documented cases of CCW holders defending themselves, Google is loaded with them. These stories are barely locally reported yet alone national, so you don't know about them. Over here, they report the crime, but only one or two sentences within the story of the victim using a gun to stop the attack. After we passed the law, yes, it was big news when it happened. But now it happens so often it's barely worth reporting.

People have this imaginary concept that if we made guns illegal in this country, the criminal would just give his up. Unfortunately, that's fantasy land. The criminal will never give up his illegal firearm.

I live work & play in St. Louis where there are 20 times more shootings than where you live. I have also been a bouncer more exposed to them than you & traveled the city doing tech service for most companies.. I CCW & have over 50 times more real live gun experience than you have. Actually you have zero experience & are clueless.

Yes...St. Louis....where democrats have run the city non stop since 1949...and where they keep letting violent gun criminals out of jail, over and over again...while attacking their own police...that is the problem, not law abiding gun owners...

Mayor of St. Louis - Wikipedia


Rise in Murders Has St. Louis Debating Why

Jennifer M. Joyce, the city’s circuit attorney, or prosecutor, an elected position, complains that in St. Louis, the illegal possession of a gun is too often “a crime without a consequence,” making it difficult to stop confrontation from turning lethal.

At the same time, deeper social roots of violence such as addiction and unemployment continue unchecked. And city officials also cite what they call a “Ferguson effect,” an increase in crime last year as police officers were diverted to control protests after a white officer shot and killed Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager in the nearby suburb on Aug. 9.

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Now, an overstretched department is forced to pick one neighborhood at a time to flood with officers. Last month, Chief Dotson even asked the state highway patrol if it could lend a dozen men to help watch downtown streets; the agency declined.
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When the police discover a gun in a car with several passengers, including some with felony records, but no one admits to owning the gun, criminal charges are often impossible, Mr. Rosenfeld said.

In addition, according to a 2014 study by Mr. Rosenfeld and his colleagues, a majority of those who are convicted of illegally possessing a gun but not caught using it in a crime receive probation rather than jail time. Gun laws and enforcement are stiffer in many other cities.

 

[KissMy]

It's not even the same thing. Polls asking 100,000 people if they like Trump / America, etc is shown in percentages of YES vs NO like 33% vs 66%. At least 10% on each side LIE canceling most of the liars out, creating a ~3% error margin.

Can you name me one poll that ever polled anywhere near 100,000 people?

Poll people who had a gun pulled on them & most will say it was unjustified. Nearly every prisoner claim they are innocent. Just like nearly everyone who pulls a gun says it was justified.

If it's not justified, then it's a criminal offense and should be reported. As my earlier post showed, CCW holders are the most law abiding citizens in this country. Why would any law abiding citizen pull a gun on anybody other than self-defense?

There are only two reasons to use a gun: to attack somebody or to defend yourself or others.

A large percent of CCW holders on this message board say they lie to pollsters. Less than 1% ever actually pulled a gun on someone in self defense. So very few could have actually pulled a gun on someone in self defense & said they did not.

In my 52 year life I have personally witnessed ~10 people other than police or suicides, pull a gun on someone and none were justified self defense.

Hmmm, well I'm older than you and never personally seen a person pull a gun on anybody, and hell, I live in the eastern suburbs of Cleveland.

But if you want documented cases of CCW holders defending themselves, Google is loaded with them. These stories are barely locally reported yet alone national, so you don't know about them. Over here, they report the crime, but only one or two sentences within the story of the victim using a gun to stop the attack. After we passed the law, yes, it was big news when it happened. But now it happens so often it's barely worth reporting.

People have this imaginary concept that if we made guns illegal in this country, the criminal would just give his up. Unfortunately, that's fantasy land. The criminal will never give up his illegal firearm.

I live work & play in St. Louis where there are 20 times more shootings than where you live. I have also been a bouncer more exposed to them than you & traveled the city doing tech service for most companies.. I CCW & have over 50 times more real live gun experience than you have. Actually you have zero experience & are clueless.

Yes...St. Louis....where democrats have run the city non stop since 1949...and where they keep letting violent gun criminals out of jail, over and over again...while attacking their own police...that is the problem, not law abiding gun owners...

Mayor of St. Louis - Wikipedia


Rise in Murders Has St. Louis Debating Why

Jennifer M. Joyce, the city’s circuit attorney, or prosecutor, an elected position, complains that in St. Louis, the illegal possession of a gun is too often “a crime without a consequence,” making it difficult to stop confrontation from turning lethal.

At the same time, deeper social roots of violence such as addiction and unemployment continue unchecked. And city officials also cite what they call a “Ferguson effect,” an increase in crime last year as police officers were diverted to control protests after a white officer shot and killed Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager in the nearby suburb on Aug. 9.

-----------

Now, an overstretched department is forced to pick one neighborhood at a time to flood with officers. Last month, Chief Dotson even asked the state highway patrol if it could lend a dozen men to help watch downtown streets; the agency declined.
----
When the police discover a gun in a car with several passengers, including some with felony records, but no one admits to owning the gun, criminal charges are often impossible, Mr. Rosenfeld said.

In addition, according to a 2014 study by Mr. Rosenfeld and his colleagues, a majority of those who are convicted of illegally possessing a gun but not caught using it in a crime receive probation rather than jail time. Gun laws and enforcement are stiffer in many other cities.

That crap is lies. The St. Louis Area has the Most Police Per Citizen in the USA!!! The DA no longer charges thugs for having guns like Repubtards wanted!

 

[BrokeLoser]

100,000 people are shot in the USA every year!

How many were shot by a good guy with a gun saving lives?

The only good guys / hero's are the the people saving more & more lives of gunshot victims thereby reducing the murder rate. Gee I wonder why medical cost keep rising?

------------------------------------------------------------ so 18 thousand suiciders , they don't count as they'll just kill themselves in a different fashion . Legal interventions are also cool and don't count and non fatal doesn't count either . All in ALL thats pretty good for a country of 330 million of all sorts in the USA . How many die yearly traveling Americas highways and byways Kiss .

Non fatal doesn't count? Imagine the medical bills. How many cripples created?

You ignorant fools are so fascinating....Suddenly you’re concerned with medical bills/costs and people dying by gun...hahaha...funny shit.
Favor the idea of running out your beloved 12-40 million illegal wetbacks first....then you’ll have a right to whine about medical expense and criminality....until then...shut the fuck up...nobody takes you serious...you have no credibility.

You Republicans invited the wetbacks & gave them Amnesty to punish Unions. Now you Cry, Bitch & Moan about it! Trump is deporting fewer!!!!

NEGATIVE...try again.
Are you ever right about anything?
Arrests of immigrants, especially non-criminals, way up in Trump's first year - CNNPolitics
2.5 Million Join Illegal Population under Obama

Yes Trump arrested more so you could pay more! DUH!!! But Trump is not deporting them you stupid Repubtard!!!

You fool...save face and admit you’re terribly misinformed.
It’s okay, most LefTards are twisted, lost, confused and harbor an extreme case of Headinassitus.
Your filthy Democrats have fucked up the deportation process and caused major backlogs in courts...you know this. Don’t worry though...this will be changed and dirty wetbacks will be chucked back to their shithole.
Deportation Backlog: Half a Million Cases Pending

 

[bripat9643]

Better check your numbers, unless you rely on Facebook for your news.

The first is data for deaths by guns, which is included in an annual report about deaths of all types during calendar year 2009. The numbers for gun deaths is broken down into several categories:

Suicide: 18,735 deaths
Homicide: 11,493 deaths
Unintentional: 554 deaths
Legal interventions: 333 deaths
Undetermined: 232 deaths

Total: 31,347 deaths

The second data set tracks non-fatal injuries by guns. According to the CDC, there were 73,505 non-fatal firearm injuries in 2010. (We will ignore an additional 13,851 non-fatal injuries from BB or pellet guns.)

How accurate is the Facebook post?

If you add together the gun deaths and the non-fatal gun injuries, you get 104,852 people shot in a year. That’s very close to the 1000,000 the Facebook post said.

Suicides don't count because those people wanted to get shot. So then the issue breaks down to why were the rest of the people shot. Most of the murders were the result of gang violence. The same problably goes for the non fatal injuries. Then there are hunting accidents, which probably constitute a big percentage of the total. There are also a lot that are the result of crime. Either the perp was shot by the police or the perp shot one or more victims. I haven't found any statistics on this, so it's dififcult to draw any conclusions.

In 2009 legal interventions (shooting a criminal) = 333 deaths out of the 100,000 good citizens shot. Yea that is so worth it! Why not keep guns away from crazies? Or not sell any more reliable guns with quick change magazines WMD's? That way if a crazy gets a gun he can't endlessly reload shooting 600 people in less than 10 minutes?

You compared deaths with total number of shootings. It should be compared with the 11,000 fatal shootings. How many criminals were shot but not killed? Then there are gang killings and hunting accidents.

 

[bripat9643]

Chicago is the center of gun violence and has very strict Gun Laws. So what's causing this Lib Democrat run city's high murder rate? What exactly is the mayor doing to stem the flow of murders?

Total bullshit. Chicago don't rank in the top 15 violent homicide crime cities. St. Louis is the worst & they have the least restrictive gun laws in the country & the highest number of police per resident of any city except DC. The problem are the cops who only police for profit by ignoring destitute violent thieves & heavily ticketing home owners & people driving vehicles.

The police costing more than the criminals.

Hey....dipshit....the mayors of St. Louis have been exclusively democrats since 1953......

Mayor of St. Louis - Wikipedia

You idiots keep claiming guns lower crime / keep US safer, now when the facts prove that wrong you switched to blaming democrats & mayors! LOL!!! Those democrat mayors are not stripping the criminals of their 2nd amendment rights like the republicans force them to do.

The fact haven't proved that wrong, dumbass.They show precisely the opposite:

 

[bripat9643]

Better check your numbers, unless you rely on Facebook for your news.

The first is data for deaths by guns, which is included in an annual report about deaths of all types during calendar year 2009. The numbers for gun deaths is broken down into several categories:

Suicide: 18,735 deaths
Homicide: 11,493 deaths
Unintentional: 554 deaths
Legal interventions: 333 deaths
Undetermined: 232 deaths

Total: 31,347 deaths

The second data set tracks non-fatal injuries by guns. According to the CDC, there were 73,505 non-fatal firearm injuries in 2010. (We will ignore an additional 13,851 non-fatal injuries from BB or pellet guns.)

How accurate is the Facebook post?

If you add together the gun deaths and the non-fatal gun injuries, you get 104,852 people shot in a year. That’s very close to the 1000,000 the Facebook post said.

Suicides don't count because those people wanted to get shot. So then the issue breaks down to why were the rest of the people shot. Most of the murders were the result of gang violence. The same problably goes for the non fatal injuries. Then there are hunting accidents, which probably constitute a big percentage of the total. There are also a lot that are the result of crime. Either the perp was shot by the police or the perp shot one or more victims. I haven't found any statistics on this, so it's dififcult to draw any conclusions.

In 2009 legal interventions (shooting a criminal) = 333 deaths out of the 100,000 good citizens shot. Yea that is so worth it! Why not keep guns away from crazies? Or not sell any more reliable guns with quick change magazines WMD's? That way if a crazy gets a gun he can't endlessly reload shooting 600 people in less than 10 minutes?

I never heard of a quick change magazine. What is that exactly?

it's a normal magazine.

 

[rightwinger]

Do 100,000 people get shot every year in U.S.? Facebook post says yes

Americans use their legal guns 1,500,000 times a year to stop violent criminal attack.....rapes, robberies and murder...
Which number is bigger?

The benefits of an normal people owning and carrying guns for self defense far outweigh the criminal acts done by criminals that democrats keep letting out of jail....if democrats really cared about lowering gun crime, you would think they would keep gun criminals in jail.....


And here we see lives saved, and lives not destroyed......because normal people in this country can own and carry guns...

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...



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-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Fantasy bullshit the first time you posted it
Fantasy bullshit now