11 Facts About the Eric Garner Case the Media Won't Tell You

[The Rabbi]

1. There is no doubt that Garner was resisting an arrest for illegally selling untaxed cigarettes. Former New York City Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik put it succinctly: "You cannot resist arrest. If Eric Garner did not resist arrest, the outcome of this case would have been very different," he told Newsmax. "He wouldn't be dead today.

"Regardless of what the arrest was for, the officers don't have the ability to say, 'Well, this is a minor arrest, so we're just going to ignore you.'"

2. The video of the July 17 incident clearly shows Garner, an African-American, swatting away the arms of a white officer seeking to take him into custody, telling him: "Don't touch me!"

3. Garner, 43, had history of more than 30 arrests dating back to 1980, on charges including assault and grand larceny.

4. At the time of his death, Garner was out on bail after being charged with illegally selling cigarettes, driving without a license, marijuana possession and false impersonation.

5. The chokehold that Patrolman Daniel Pantaleo put on Garner was reported to have contributed to his death. But Garner, who was 6-foot-3 and weighed 350 pounds, suffered from a number of health problems, including heart disease, severe asthma, diabetes, obesity, and sleep apnea. Pantaleo's attorney and police union officials argued that Garner's poor health was the main cause of his death.

6. Garner did not die at the scene of the confrontation. He suffered cardiac arrest in the ambulance taking him to the hospital and was pronounced dead about an hour later.

7. Much has been made of the fact that the use of chokeholds by police is prohibited in New York City. But officers reportedly still use them. Between 2009 and mid-2014, the Civilian Complaint Review Board received 1,128 chokehold allegations.

Patrick Lynch, president of the New York City Patrolmen's Benevolent Association, said: "It was clear that the officer's intention was to do nothing more than take Mr. Garner into custody as instructed, and that he used the takedown technique that he learned in the academy when Mr. Garner refused."

8. The grand jury began hearing the case on Sept. 29 and did not reach a decision until Wednesday, so there is much testimony that was presented that has not been made public.

9. The 23-member grand jury included nine non-white jurors.

10. In order to find Officer Pantaleo criminally negligent, the grand jury would have had to determine that he knew there was a "substantial risk" that Garner would have died due to the takedown.

11. Less than a month after Garner's death, Ramsey Orta, who shot the much-viewed videotape of the encounter, was indicted on weapons charges. Police alleged that Orta had slipped a .25-caliber handgun into a teenage accomplice's waistband outside a New York hotel.

Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.Newsmax.com/Newsfront/eric-garner-chokehold-grand-jury-police/2014/12/04/id/611058/#ixzz3KzEJ8JTk

He was

SELLING FUCKING CIGARETTES

I havent seen any proof of that claim. Do you have any?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Always. You always try to use the least amount of force to deal with the situation you can. That's just a basic police principle.

You have a 6'4 350 pound man, refusing to be arrested...just how much force do you use?... Unfortunately NYPD does not use Tasers!

They shouldnt have arrested him. Initially all they wanted for him to move on from where he was. It escalated all too quickly into fisticuffs. That's a failure on their part.

No, it was a failure on HIS part! He had the option, he chose POORLY!

Choosing poorly is not a capital crime punishable by summary execution.

their intent wasn't to indirectly kill him. He later died due to various complications. Again- if he would have just obeyed the police it would not have happened. When will blacks learn to obey the police? He had been arrested over 30 times before this.

His death was ruled a homicide.

 

[The Rabbi]

They shouldnt have arrested him. Initially all they wanted for him to move on from where he was. It escalated all too quickly into fisticuffs. That's a failure on their part.

No, it was a failure on HIS part! He had the option, he chose POORLY!

There was lots of blame to go around. I've said that already.
What were they arresting him for?

Honestly, it was TAX MONEY!

They were arresting him for tax money? Tax money isnt a crime.

Then Why do they arrest moonshiners? It is all about tax money.

Moonshiners are arrested for producing whiskey without the necessary tax stamps etc.
What was Garner being arrested for? I just can't get a straight answer on this one.

 

[NYcarbineer]

1. There is no doubt that Garner was resisting an arrest for illegally selling untaxed cigarettes. Former New York City Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik put it succinctly: "You cannot resist arrest. If Eric Garner did not resist arrest, the outcome of this case would have been very different," he told Newsmax. "He wouldn't be dead today.

"Regardless of what the arrest was for, the officers don't have the ability to say, 'Well, this is a minor arrest, so we're just going to ignore you.'"

2. The video of the July 17 incident clearly shows Garner, an African-American, swatting away the arms of a white officer seeking to take him into custody, telling him: "Don't touch me!"

3. Garner, 43, had history of more than 30 arrests dating back to 1980, on charges including assault and grand larceny.

4. At the time of his death, Garner was out on bail after being charged with illegally selling cigarettes, driving without a license, marijuana possession and false impersonation.

5. The chokehold that Patrolman Daniel Pantaleo put on Garner was reported to have contributed to his death. But Garner, who was 6-foot-3 and weighed 350 pounds, suffered from a number of health problems, including heart disease, severe asthma, diabetes, obesity, and sleep apnea. Pantaleo's attorney and police union officials argued that Garner's poor health was the main cause of his death.

6. Garner did not die at the scene of the confrontation. He suffered cardiac arrest in the ambulance taking him to the hospital and was pronounced dead about an hour later.

7. Much has been made of the fact that the use of chokeholds by police is prohibited in New York City. But officers reportedly still use them. Between 2009 and mid-2014, the Civilian Complaint Review Board received 1,128 chokehold allegations.

Patrick Lynch, president of the New York City Patrolmen's Benevolent Association, said: "It was clear that the officer's intention was to do nothing more than take Mr. Garner into custody as instructed, and that he used the takedown technique that he learned in the academy when Mr. Garner refused."

8. The grand jury began hearing the case on Sept. 29 and did not reach a decision until Wednesday, so there is much testimony that was presented that has not been made public.

9. The 23-member grand jury included nine non-white jurors.

10. In order to find Officer Pantaleo criminally negligent, the grand jury would have had to determine that he knew there was a "substantial risk" that Garner would have died due to the takedown.

11. Less than a month after Garner's death, Ramsey Orta, who shot the much-viewed videotape of the encounter, was indicted on weapons charges. Police alleged that Orta had slipped a .25-caliber handgun into a teenage accomplice's waistband outside a New York hotel.

Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.Newsmax.com/Newsfront/eric-garner-chokehold-grand-jury-police/2014/12/04/id/611058/#ixzz3KzEJ8JTk

Number 10 is fucked. It's not the job of the grand jury to determine guilt or innocence.

 

[NYcarbineer]

1. There is no doubt that Garner was resisting an arrest for illegally selling untaxed cigarettes. Former New York City Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik put it succinctly: "You cannot resist arrest. If Eric Garner did not resist arrest, the outcome of this case would have been very different," he told Newsmax. "He wouldn't be dead today.

"Regardless of what the arrest was for, the officers don't have the ability to say, 'Well, this is a minor arrest, so we're just going to ignore you.'"

2. The video of the July 17 incident clearly shows Garner, an African-American, swatting away the arms of a white officer seeking to take him into custody, telling him: "Don't touch me!"

3. Garner, 43, had history of more than 30 arrests dating back to 1980, on charges including assault and grand larceny.

4. At the time of his death, Garner was out on bail after being charged with illegally selling cigarettes, driving without a license, marijuana possession and false impersonation.

5. The chokehold that Patrolman Daniel Pantaleo put on Garner was reported to have contributed to his death. But Garner, who was 6-foot-3 and weighed 350 pounds, suffered from a number of health problems, including heart disease, severe asthma, diabetes, obesity, and sleep apnea. Pantaleo's attorney and police union officials argued that Garner's poor health was the main cause of his death.

6. Garner did not die at the scene of the confrontation. He suffered cardiac arrest in the ambulance taking him to the hospital and was pronounced dead about an hour later.

7. Much has been made of the fact that the use of chokeholds by police is prohibited in New York City. But officers reportedly still use them. Between 2009 and mid-2014, the Civilian Complaint Review Board received 1,128 chokehold allegations.

Patrick Lynch, president of the New York City Patrolmen's Benevolent Association, said: "It was clear that the officer's intention was to do nothing more than take Mr. Garner into custody as instructed, and that he used the takedown technique that he learned in the academy when Mr. Garner refused."

8. The grand jury began hearing the case on Sept. 29 and did not reach a decision until Wednesday, so there is much testimony that was presented that has not been made public.

9. The 23-member grand jury included nine non-white jurors.

10. In order to find Officer Pantaleo criminally negligent, the grand jury would have had to determine that he knew there was a "substantial risk" that Garner would have died due to the takedown.

11. Less than a month after Garner's death, Ramsey Orta, who shot the much-viewed videotape of the encounter, was indicted on weapons charges. Police alleged that Orta had slipped a .25-caliber handgun into a teenage accomplice's waistband outside a New York hotel.

Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.Newsmax.com/Newsfront/eric-garner-chokehold-grand-jury-police/2014/12/04/id/611058/#ixzz3KzEJ8JTk

Number 9 is fucked:

"Of the 23 members of the Garner grand jury, 14 are white, nine are non-white and at least five are black, according to two people familiar with the grand jury's racial makeup."

NYC Grand Jury Expected to Vote Wednesday in Eric Garner Case Sources NBC New York

Widely available in the media.

 

[Desperado]

No, it was a failure on HIS part! He had the option, he chose POORLY!

There was lots of blame to go around. I've said that already.
What were they arresting him for?

Honestly, it was TAX MONEY!

They were arresting him for tax money? Tax money isnt a crime.

Then Why do they arrest moonshiners? It is all about tax money.

Moonshiners are arrested for producing whiskey without the necessary tax stamps etc.
What was Garner being arrested for? I just can't get a straight answer on this one.

Garner was arrested for selling cigarettes without the necessary tax stamps and thinking he was above the law, what is so hard to understand?

The man was selling illegal cigarettes in front of a store selling legal ones, cheap. He was taking away business from a legal tax paying store and the store was continuously calling the police to stop him, he would go to jail, get out and do it again to the same store owner. Many times this happened and finally, when the police tried to arrest him the last time, he said he was tired of being arrested and was going to stand his ground and sell illegal cigarettes so he dared the police to stop arresting him and let him break the law.

.Cigarette And Liquor Stamp Taxes Why Garner Had To Be Arrested And Why Cops Couldn 8217 t Back Down Culture of Life News

 

[Vigilante]

When has it been the police's job to be sensitive? They're authoritarians, they have the badge and gun!

Always. You always try to use the least amount of force to deal with the situation you can. That's just a basic police principle.

You have a 6'4 350 pound man, refusing to be arrested...just how much force do you use?... Unfortunately NYPD does not use Tasers!

They shouldnt have arrested him. Initially all they wanted for him to move on from where he was. It escalated all too quickly into fisticuffs. That's a failure on their part.

No, it was a failure on HIS part! He had the option, he chose POORLY!

Choosing poorly is not a capital crime punishable by summary execution.

And since we know that the perp wasn't choked, or the officer would be indicted, apparently, in this case, SUICIDE took his life!

 

[Vigilante]

There's plenty of blame to go around here. Officers handled it badly. Garner handled it badly. The officers are supposed to be trained professionals.

So would you suggest they throw a net over him?
I am like most Americans, when a law officer tells me something I will do what he asks.
Garner had experienced 30 arrests he should have had experience enough NOT to resist.
Stupidity not racist as the Sharptons of the world are making it out to be.
Will there be two different kinds of treatment for whites and for blacks now? Whites obey but blacks don't need to?

I have not seen any reliable report as to why they were confronting him to begin with. That's really the question. Were they there to arrest him for selling cigarettes illegally? That's one scenario. Were they there to tell him to stop loitering? That's another scenario. Again, it escalated very quickly and I don't find the justification for that anywhere.

The police had been called by the STORE OWNER who had Garner selling cigarettes in front of his store...apparently the store owner also sold cigarettes LEGALLY and had a bug up his ass that this guy was taking away his business!

 

[Vigilante]

1. There is no doubt that Garner was resisting an arrest for illegally selling untaxed cigarettes. Former New York City Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik put it succinctly: "You cannot resist arrest. If Eric Garner did not resist arrest, the outcome of this case would have been very different," he told Newsmax. "He wouldn't be dead today.

"Regardless of what the arrest was for, the officers don't have the ability to say, 'Well, this is a minor arrest, so we're just going to ignore you.'"

2. The video of the July 17 incident clearly shows Garner, an African-American, swatting away the arms of a white officer seeking to take him into custody, telling him: "Don't touch me!"

3. Garner, 43, had history of more than 30 arrests dating back to 1980, on charges including assault and grand larceny.

4. At the time of his death, Garner was out on bail after being charged with illegally selling cigarettes, driving without a license, marijuana possession and false impersonation.

5. The chokehold that Patrolman Daniel Pantaleo put on Garner was reported to have contributed to his death. But Garner, who was 6-foot-3 and weighed 350 pounds, suffered from a number of health problems, including heart disease, severe asthma, diabetes, obesity, and sleep apnea. Pantaleo's attorney and police union officials argued that Garner's poor health was the main cause of his death.

6. Garner did not die at the scene of the confrontation. He suffered cardiac arrest in the ambulance taking him to the hospital and was pronounced dead about an hour later.

7. Much has been made of the fact that the use of chokeholds by police is prohibited in New York City. But officers reportedly still use them. Between 2009 and mid-2014, the Civilian Complaint Review Board received 1,128 chokehold allegations.

Patrick Lynch, president of the New York City Patrolmen's Benevolent Association, said: "It was clear that the officer's intention was to do nothing more than take Mr. Garner into custody as instructed, and that he used the takedown technique that he learned in the academy when Mr. Garner refused."

8. The grand jury began hearing the case on Sept. 29 and did not reach a decision until Wednesday, so there is much testimony that was presented that has not been made public.

9. The 23-member grand jury included nine non-white jurors.

10. In order to find Officer Pantaleo criminally negligent, the grand jury would have had to determine that he knew there was a "substantial risk" that Garner would have died due to the takedown.

11. Less than a month after Garner's death, Ramsey Orta, who shot the much-viewed videotape of the encounter, was indicted on weapons charges. Police alleged that Orta had slipped a .25-caliber handgun into a teenage accomplice's waistband outside a New York hotel.

Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.Newsmax.com/Newsfront/eric-garner-chokehold-grand-jury-police/2014/12/04/id/611058/#ixzz3KzEJ8JTk

Number 9 is fucked:

"Of the 23 members of the Garner grand jury, 14 are white, nine are non-white and at least five are black, according to two people familiar with the grand jury's racial makeup."

NYC Grand Jury Expected to Vote Wednesday in Eric Garner Case Sources NBC New York

Widely available in the media.

Yes?, Andon the radio in NYC they have stated that 8 were black and one Hispanic.... and your point? YOUR in NYC, are listening to NBC for your info?

 

[The Rabbi]

There was lots of blame to go around. I've said that already.
What were they arresting him for?

Honestly, it was TAX MONEY!

They were arresting him for tax money? Tax money isnt a crime.

Then Why do they arrest moonshiners? It is all about tax money.

Moonshiners are arrested for producing whiskey without the necessary tax stamps etc.
What was Garner being arrested for? I just can't get a straight answer on this one.

Garner was arrested for selling cigarettes without the necessary tax stamps and thinking he was above the law, what is so hard to understand?

The man was selling illegal cigarettes in front of a store selling legal ones, cheap. He was taking away business from a legal tax paying store and the store was continuously calling the police to stop him, he would go to jail, get out and do it again to the same store owner. Many times this happened and finally, when the police tried to arrest him the last time, he said he was tired of being arrested and was going to stand his ground and sell illegal cigarettes so he dared the police to stop arresting him and let him break the law.

.Cigarette And Liquor Stamp Taxes Why Garner Had To Be Arrested And Why Cops Couldn 8217 t Back Down Culture of Life News

I havent seen anything in the official record that corroborates that. If true it would change how I feel about the incident.
Even so, how did an arrest for a small time crime like selling loose cigarettes end up in homicide?

 

[Vigilante]

Honestly, it was TAX MONEY!

They were arresting him for tax money? Tax money isnt a crime.

Then Why do they arrest moonshiners? It is all about tax money.

Moonshiners are arrested for producing whiskey without the necessary tax stamps etc.
What was Garner being arrested for? I just can't get a straight answer on this one.

Garner was arrested for selling cigarettes without the necessary tax stamps and thinking he was above the law, what is so hard to understand?

The man was selling illegal cigarettes in front of a store selling legal ones, cheap. He was taking away business from a legal tax paying store and the store was continuously calling the police to stop him, he would go to jail, get out and do it again to the same store owner. Many times this happened and finally, when the police tried to arrest him the last time, he said he was tired of being arrested and was going to stand his ground and sell illegal cigarettes so he dared the police to stop arresting him and let him break the law.

.Cigarette And Liquor Stamp Taxes Why Garner Had To Be Arrested And Why Cops Couldn 8217 t Back Down Culture of Life News

I havent seen anything in the official record that corroborates that. If true it would change how I feel about the incident.
Even so, how did an arrest for a small time crime like selling loose cigarettes end up in homicide?

Rabbi, the guy was obese, and had a heart condition...that he knew of! What is so difficult about this? Because you don't like the fact he was hassled for a small time crime? How about if he waved his dick at school girls, would THAT be reason enough?

 

[The Rabbi]

They were arresting him for tax money? Tax money isnt a crime.

Then Why do they arrest moonshiners? It is all about tax money.

Moonshiners are arrested for producing whiskey without the necessary tax stamps etc.
What was Garner being arrested for? I just can't get a straight answer on this one.

Garner was arrested for selling cigarettes without the necessary tax stamps and thinking he was above the law, what is so hard to understand?

The man was selling illegal cigarettes in front of a store selling legal ones, cheap. He was taking away business from a legal tax paying store and the store was continuously calling the police to stop him, he would go to jail, get out and do it again to the same store owner. Many times this happened and finally, when the police tried to arrest him the last time, he said he was tired of being arrested and was going to stand his ground and sell illegal cigarettes so he dared the police to stop arresting him and let him break the law.

.Cigarette And Liquor Stamp Taxes Why Garner Had To Be Arrested And Why Cops Couldn 8217 t Back Down Culture of Life News

I havent seen anything in the official record that corroborates that. If true it would change how I feel about the incident.
Even so, how did an arrest for a small time crime like selling loose cigarettes end up in homicide?

Rabbi, the guy was obese, and had a heart condition...that he knew of! What is so difficult about this? Because you don't like the fact he was hassled for a small time crime? How about if he waved his dick at school girls, would THAT be reason enough?

Well he didnt do that either.
It is disturbing that cops piled on him, seemingly without much provocation. It was a very heavy handed approach for what is in reality a very minor crime. Definitely out of all proportion. I've never defended Garner and I'm not going to do that now. But many aspects of this case are very troubling.

 

[RKMBrown]

Then Why do they arrest moonshiners? It is all about tax money.

Moonshiners are arrested for producing whiskey without the necessary tax stamps etc.
What was Garner being arrested for? I just can't get a straight answer on this one.

Garner was arrested for selling cigarettes without the necessary tax stamps and thinking he was above the law, what is so hard to understand?

The man was selling illegal cigarettes in front of a store selling legal ones, cheap. He was taking away business from a legal tax paying store and the store was continuously calling the police to stop him, he would go to jail, get out and do it again to the same store owner. Many times this happened and finally, when the police tried to arrest him the last time, he said he was tired of being arrested and was going to stand his ground and sell illegal cigarettes so he dared the police to stop arresting him and let him break the law.

.Cigarette And Liquor Stamp Taxes Why Garner Had To Be Arrested And Why Cops Couldn 8217 t Back Down Culture of Life News

I havent seen anything in the official record that corroborates that. If true it would change how I feel about the incident.
Even so, how did an arrest for a small time crime like selling loose cigarettes end up in homicide?

Rabbi, the guy was obese, and had a heart condition...that he knew of! What is so difficult about this? Because you don't like the fact he was hassled for a small time crime? How about if he waved his dick at school girls, would THAT be reason enough?

Well he didnt do that either.
It is disturbing that cops piled on him, seemingly without much provocation. It was a very heavy handed approach for what is in reality a very minor crime. Definitely out of all proportion. I've never defended Garner and I'm not going to do that now. But many aspects of this case are very troubling.

The part I don't like is where they caused him to not be able to breathe.. then just looked at him and held him there as he died. No CPR... no attempt to save his life... even the EMTs that came ... they just treated him like a sack of potatoes. Apparently if you say no to the cops you don't deserve to live.

 

[Roudy]

Although tragic and an unnecessary, the media has been lying and misrepresenting the facts in order to incite riots. The "choke hold" wasn't a choke hold as the media keeps yapping. It was a TAKE DOWN, in order to place Garner under custody. The police used a by the book method taught to them in the academy in order to arrest someone who was resisting.

Race had absolutely nothing to do with it, in fact the highest ranking officer on the scene at the time was a black female. Neither did race have anything to do with the Brown incident.

But the president, media and the race baiters won't let go. They insist in making civil rights symbols out of thugs and career criminals.

Just remember folks, once the cops back off, and crime goes rampant and criminals start invading our homes and businesses, remember who it was that tied law enforcement's hands behind their backs.

 

[Roudy]

Then the black, Female Sgt. in charge of the detail, HOLDS THE BAG for not handling it correctly... Isn't THAT why she is the supervisor?

From the video none of them were aces. They went to force escalation pretty quickly rather than being more sensitive. Maybe they would have ended up doing it anyway. I dont know.

When has it been the police's job to be sensitive? They're authoritarians, they have the badge and gun!

Always. You always try to use the least amount of force to deal with the situation you can. That's just a basic police principle.

You have a 6'4 350 pound man, refusing to be arrested...just how much force do you use?... Unfortunately NYPD does not use Tasers!

They shouldnt have arrested him. Initially all they wanted for him to move on from where he was. It escalated all too quickly into fisticuffs. That's a failure on their part.

The cops were given orders to arrest someone who was constantly harassing people and local business owners most of which were minority owned. I'm sure if a guy like Garner kept hanging out in front of your store harassing you and other people in the neighborhood while engaging in illegal activity you'd call the police. Garner had many such calls and prior warning from the people. The police were doing their job and following orders.

 

[The Rabbi]

From the video none of them were aces. They went to force escalation pretty quickly rather than being more sensitive. Maybe they would have ended up doing it anyway. I dont know.

When has it been the police's job to be sensitive? They're authoritarians, they have the badge and gun!

Always. You always try to use the least amount of force to deal with the situation you can. That's just a basic police principle.

You have a 6'4 350 pound man, refusing to be arrested...just how much force do you use?... Unfortunately NYPD does not use Tasers!

They shouldnt have arrested him. Initially all they wanted for him to move on from where he was. It escalated all too quickly into fisticuffs. That's a failure on their part.

The cops were given orders to arrest someone who was constantly harassing people and local business owners most of which were minority owned. I'm sure if a guy like Garner kept hanging out in front of your store harassing you and other people in the neighborhood while engaging in illegal activity you'd call the police. Garner had many such calls and prior warning from the people. The police were doing their job and following orders.

How do we know he was harassing people?

 

[Roudy]

The business owners kept calling into the police complaining about Garners illegal activity, and his behavior towards them and their customers. How would you like it if you owned a store and we're trying to earn an honest living, and a guy like Garner was hanging around your store all day messing with you and your customers, and damaging your livelihood? What about the rights of the business owners and those who patronize the stores?

The cops were simply doing their job, serving the community. this was an ongoing problem with Garner victimizng the store owners and the community.

"New York Congressman Peter King was on Megyn Kelly last night defending the actions of the police in the Eric Garner case arguing that police didn’t go too far, rather it was Garner himself refusing arrest and continuing to fight with officers that led to his death. He is clear though that he doesn’t believe Garner deserved to die, but he doesn’t believe you can blame it on the officers who took him down.

He also adds that the police were out there in the first place because the minority business owners had complained to police that Garner was disrupting the area and thus preventing people from coming in the stores."

 

[RKMBrown]

The business owners kept calling into the police complaining about Garners illegal activity, and his behavior towards them and their customers. How would you like it if you owned a store and we're trying to earn an honest living, and a guy like Garner was hanging around your store all day messing with you and your customers, and damaging your livelihood? What about the rights of the business owners and those who patronize the stores?

The cops were simply doing their job, serving the community. this was an ongoing problem with Garner victimizng the store owners and the community.

Any other lies you want to make up?

 

[Siete]

They were arresting him for tax money? Tax money isnt a crime.

Then Why do they arrest moonshiners? It is all about tax money.

Moonshiners are arrested for producing whiskey without the necessary tax stamps etc.
What was Garner being arrested for? I just can't get a straight answer on this one.

Garner was arrested for selling cigarettes without the necessary tax stamps and thinking he was above the law, what is so hard to understand?

The man was selling illegal cigarettes in front of a store selling legal ones, cheap. He was taking away business from a legal tax paying store and the store was continuously calling the police to stop him, he would go to jail, get out and do it again to the same store owner. Many times this happened and finally, when the police tried to arrest him the last time, he said he was tired of being arrested and was going to stand his ground and sell illegal cigarettes so he dared the police to stop arresting him and let him break the law.

.Cigarette And Liquor Stamp Taxes Why Garner Had To Be Arrested And Why Cops Couldn 8217 t Back Down Culture of Life News

I havent seen anything in the official record that corroborates that. If true it would change how I feel about the incident.
Even so, how did an arrest for a small time crime like selling loose cigarettes end up in homicide?

Rabbi, the guy was obese, and had a heart condition...that he knew of! What is so difficult about this? Because you don't like the fact he was hassled for a small time crime? How about if he waved his dick at school girls, would THAT be reason enough?

the guy was fat, and you're a POS.

 

[Roudy]

The business owners kept calling into the police complaining about Garners illegal activity, and his behavior towards them and their customers. How would you like it if you owned a store and we're trying to earn an honest living, and a guy like Garner was hanging around your store all day messing with you and your customers, and damaging your livelihood? What about the rights of the business owners and those who patronize the stores?

The cops were simply doing their job, serving the community. this was an ongoing problem with Garner victimizng the store owners and the community.

Any other lies you want to make up?

Which part is a lie? It wasn't a choke hold, it was a take down (hence talk of "retraining" the police) and the police were doing what they were trained to do when someone resists arrest. The police appeared on the scene because the local business owners kept calling in and complaining about Garner. After they arrived they verified the validity of the complaints and proceeded to follow the order to arrest Garner. Garner resisted and as a result aggravated his asthma and other health / breathing conditions during the arrest, which brought about a cardiac arrest.

This is an arrest gone bad, not because of the cops, but because of Garner. Anytime you resist arrest, you are taking your life, health, and well being into your hands, and adding to your jail time. Garner, with his health conditions shouldn't have taken the chance.