1932-1972 Federal Govt Experimented on Blacks By Injections of Syphilis Just to See What Happens

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The Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male[1][2][3] (informally referred to as the "Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment," the "Tuskegee Syphilis Study," the "Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the African American Male," the "U.S. Public Health Service Syphilis Study at Tuskegee," or the "Tuskegee Experiment") was an ethically abusive study conducted between 1932 and 1972 by the United States Public Health Service (PHS) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).[4][5] The purpose of this study was to observe the natural history of untreated syphilis. Although the African-American men who participated in the study were told that they were receiving free health care from the federal government of the United States, they were not.[6]

The Public Health Service started the study in 1932 in collaboration with Tuskegee University (then the Tuskegee Institute), a historically black college in Alabama. In the study, investigators enrolled a total of 600 impoverished African-American sharecroppers from Macon County, Alabama.[6] Of these men, 399 had latent syphilis, with a control group of 201 men who were not infected.[5] As an incentive for participation in the study, the men were promised free medical care, but were deceived by the PHS, who never informed subjects of their diagnosis[7][8][9][10] and disguised placebos, ineffective methods, and diagnostic procedures as treatment.[11]

The men were initially told that the "study" was only going to last six months, but it was extended to 40 years.[5] After funding for treatment was lost, the study was continued without informing the men that they would never be treated. None of the infected men were treated with penicillin despite the fact that by 1947, the antibiotic was widely available and had become the standard treatment for syphilis.[12]

The study continued, under numerous Public Health Service supervisors, until 1972, when a leak to the press resulted in its termination on November 16 of that year.[13] The study caused the deaths of 128 of its participants, either directly from syphilis or from related complications.[14]

The 40-year Tuskegee Study was a major violation of ethical standards,[12] and has been cited as "arguably the most infamous biomedical research study in U.S. history."[15] Its revelation led to the 1979 Belmont Report and to the establishment of the Office for Human Research Protections (OHRP)[16] and federal laws and regulations requiring institutional review boards for the protection of human subjects in studies involving them. The OHRP manages this responsibility within the United States Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).[16] Its revelation has also been an important cause of distrust in medical science and the US government amongst African Americans.[15]

On May 16, 1997, President Bill Clinton formally apologized on behalf of the United States to victims of the study, calling it shameful and racist.[17] "What was done cannot be undone, but we can end the silence," he said. "We can stop turning our heads away. We can look at you in the eye, and finally say, on behalf of the American people, what the United States government did was shameful and I am sorry."[17]

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The Black university involved was not told the victims were not going to be treated, but were told they were going to be cured for free.
There were no Blacks involved in lying to these victims.
The people who lied and failed to treat the victims were all white members of the United States Public Health Service.
The college just help recruit victims.

Here is one of the USPHS researchers taking a blood sample from a victim.
Notice he is white.

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The title of the thread is a lie. They did not inject people with syphilis.

True. They just told them they were being treated but didn't.
Nope, that's a lie, too.


That is not entirely true either.

For example, penicillin was first approved for syphillis in 1945.

While informed consent didn't exist at the time, certain populations were considered expendable for the purpose of experimentation. They included those in mental asylums and black people.
So why did the Tuskegee Institute sign off on the program? You know what, people like you are committed to hatred, so don't bother answering. You are going to fan the flames of racial hatred regardless.

The Black University was never told that the victims were not going to be treated.
They were told the opposite, that they would get free treatment.
 
Eh...think about it...this was 1932. White women were fighting hard for rights in the professional world, black women, under both segregation and racial and gender discrimination? Research? Seem unlikely.
Not really... Thinking about it... In 1932 I'd be more likely to trust a learned black woman based on the segregation and racial discrimination than a white anybody if I was black.

It would also be my contention that gender discrimination was lesser in the black community back then. That's a belief though, hardly factual. Back then I think friends and family mean a whole lot more when you don't have anything else.

I absolutely admit that is a thought experiment however.

Trust has nothing to do with it.
Back then it was simply nearly impossible for Blacks to be doctors, much less researchers.
It was hard enough for them to get to be nurses.
It is very hard to get accepted in to medical programs even if white, and before AA, it was nearly impossible if Black.

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In 1900, almost 12% of the U.S. population was Black, but only 1.3% of physicians were Black. In 1940, nearly 10% of the population was Black, but less than 3% of physicians were Black.

Of those, 2.7% were men and 0.1% were women, the study found.

In 2018, about 13% of the U.S. population was Black, but only 5.4% of physicians were Black. Of those 2.6% were men and 2.8% were women.
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Let's see, which party was in charge for the most time between '32 and '72?
Which party was in charge in Alabama during the entire length of the study?

This was Alabama, a Democrat stronghold. Democrats don't even view blacks as people, they view them as useful tools, and they still do today.
 
Let's see, which party was in charge for the most time between '32 and '72?
Which party was in charge in Alabama during the entire length of the study?

This was Alabama, a Democrat stronghold. Democrats don't even view blacks as people, they view them as useful tools, and they still do today.

The study was federal and the Alabama people had nothing to do with it.
 
Let's see, which party was in charge for the most time between '32 and '72?
Which party was in charge in Alabama during the entire length of the study?

This was Alabama, a Democrat stronghold. Democrats don't even view blacks as people, they view them as useful tools, and they still do today.

The study was federal and the Alabama people had nothing to do with it.
Yeah right, the doctors commuted from Montana to Alabama everyday. You're an idiot.

They were obviously from the Tuskegee University. And the odds that any of them were Republicans are pretty fucking slim.
 
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And 91% of black people vote Democrat.

But keep pulling out your anecdotes.

Because cults gonna cult!
Why do you assume I am in a cult when I just point out that Black people are not a homogeneous group? Not ALL Black people distrust White people. That is an obvious fact. Black voting is a separate issue from 'White trust'.
 
The title of the thread is a lie. They did not inject people with syphilis.

True. They just told them they were being treated but didn't.
Nope, that's a lie, too.


That is not entirely true either.

For example, penicillin was first approved for syphillis in 1945.

While informed consent didn't exist at the time, certain populations were considered expendable for the purpose of experimentation. They included those in mental asylums and black people.
So why did the Tuskegee Institute sign off on the program? You know what, people like you are committed to hatred, so don't bother answering. You are going to fan the flames of racial hatred regardless.

The Black University was never told that the victims were not going to be treated.
They were told the opposite, that they would get free treatment.
Of the syphilitic blacks who were considered for inclusion in the study, 178 were in the infectious first stage of syphilis and they were rejected and sent for the standard arsenic treatment, 140 had already entered the latency stage of syphilis, for which the standard and largely ineffective cure of the day was no good at all. Forgoing that was no hardship, and in exchange they got free medical checkups and the benefits of Nurse Rivers’ kind attention. The authorities at Booker T. Washington’s Tuskegee Institute blessed the study.

Just remember, the New York Times first "broke" the modern "whites-are-evil" version of this story, so you KNOW it is false.
 
The title of the thread is a lie. They did not inject people with syphilis.

True. They just told them they were being treated but didn't.
Nope, that's a lie, too.


That is not entirely true either.

For example, penicillin was first approved for syphillis in 1945.

While informed consent didn't exist at the time, certain populations were considered expendable for the purpose of experimentation. They included those in mental asylums and black people.

By the mid-1950s penicillin became available as a standard cure for syphilis. By the 1950s, the men had been infected for 20 or 25 years. Some number had died of heart disease probably brought on by tertiary syphilis, but for those who were still alive in the 1950s, the disease had very likely run its course. Ninety men were still part of the program at the time of the last examination in 1963. Penicillin treatment, even when it first became available, would probably have done them no good.
 

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