-40 in North Dakota!

[HereWeGoAgain]

Some times Greenpeace has a rough voyage;

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Holy shit! That's freeze your nose hairs cold!

As of Wednesday afternoon, the Minnesota Department of Transportation reported difficult driving conditions on multiple highways due to snow-covered and slippery roads around Minneapolis. These hazardous roads include US-10 and I-94 in both directions, as well as on MN-15.

A crash also occurred on I-90 westbound between MN 91 and exit 33 during the late afternoon hours, causing slow traffic. At the time of the crash driving conditions were classified as difficult due to packed snow on the roadway.

Air travel is also being impacted as FlightStats reports excessive delays at Denver and Minneapolis-St. Paul airports.

AccuWeather RealFeel® temperatures will become dangerously low during and after the storm, plummeting to between 30 to 40 below zero on Wednesday night through Thursday night.

Yeah.....so what???....it's cold in North Dakota in December.....woooeeee.....big surprise.....are you still completely in the dark about the difference between weather and climate, walleyed? Are you still stupidly and futilely pointing at cold weather events in some place in the winter and imagining that they somehow negate all of the evidence that globally the planet is still heating up? You are such an ignorant clueless denier cult troll!

Moreover, there are a number of studies that indicate that the extreme winter weather events that have happened in the northern hemisphere in the last decade or so are the result of the extreme decline in Arctic ice and the effect of that ice loss on the jet stream.

Warming Arctic Fueling Cold, Snowy Winters, Study Says
ClimateCentral
By Andrew Freedman
February 27th, 2012
(excerpts)
The blockbuster snowstorms and frigid temperatures seen in much of the northern hemisphere during the past few winters are in part the result of global warming-related Arctic sea ice loss, according to a new study published Monday. The study, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, finds clear links between the precipitous decline of Arctic sea ice and severe winter weather in Europe, Asia, and parts of the U.S. during the past several years. The study adds to the growing body of evidence pointing to the widespread ramifications of melting Arctic sea ice, proving that what’s happening in the Far North is not just a concern for polar bears anymore. This study is the first to take a comprehensive look at how Arctic sea ice loss is changing the odds of unusually heavy snows in the Midwest and eastern U.S., as well as parts of Europe and Asia. Using a combination of observational data and computer model simulations, the group of researchers from Georgia Tech, the Chinese Academy of Sciences, and Columbia University, found that sea ice loss -- particularly the decline in fall sea ice cover -- affects winter weather in the northern hemisphere through a complex series of interactions between the ocean and the atmosphere.

The Arctic has been warming at about twice the rate of the rest of the globe, a trend studies show is largely due to manmade climate change. Fall sea ice cover declined by 27 percent between 1979-2010, and the five lowest sea ice extent years have all occurred during the past five years. The chain of events begins during the summer sea ice melt season, when above average air temperatures and warmer waters melt highly reflective sea ice, revealing the darker ocean waters. These waters absorb much more incoming solar radiation, which increases water temperatures. This boost in water temperatures melts more sea ice, and slows the growth of new ice cover during the fall. The warm, ice-free ocean water allows more heat and moisture to be added to the atmosphere during the fall and winter, which can alter weather patterns in favor of a “wavier” jet stream that makes more frequent dives southward, dragging Arctic air and moisture with it. According to the study, the end result of all this is that there are increased chances of heavy snowstorms and cold air outbreaks in the Northeastern and Midwestern U.S., as well as Europe and parts of Asia. A key implication of the study is that if sea ice loss continues apace, there may be more cold and snowy winters in store for these areas.

It's become pretty obvious that no matter what kind of weather we have,it will be attributed to "climate" change.

Hot,cold or mild......climate change.

 

[RollingThunder]

Seems kind of rude to put a quote entirely in bold

Actually it seems kind of necessary when you're trying to communicate the scientific facts to closed-minded (and very feeble-minded) denier cult retards like you. It's very difficult getting anything through your thick skulls and brainwashed knee-jerk denial of science and reality. As you and the other denier cult nitwits so clearly demonstrate.

 

[Kosh]

And once again for the AGW church members CO2 does not drive climate.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Holy shit! That's freeze your nose hairs cold!


As of Wednesday afternoon, the Minnesota Department of Transportation reported difficult driving conditions on multiple highways due to snow-covered and slippery roads around Minneapolis. These hazardous roads include US-10 and I-94 in both directions, as well as on MN-15.

A crash also occurred on I-90 westbound between MN 91 and exit 33 during the late afternoon hours, causing slow traffic. At the time of the crash driving conditions were classified as difficult due to packed snow on the roadway.

Air travel is also being impacted as FlightStats reports excessive delays at Denver and Minneapolis-St. Paul airports.

AccuWeather RealFeel® temperatures will become dangerously low during and after the storm, plummeting to between 30 to 40 below zero on Wednesday night through Thursday night.

Global Warming in full swing just as predicted by the computer models

Yeah.

Just like we predicted.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Seems kind of rude to put a quote entirely in bold

Actually it seems kind of necessary when you're trying to communicate the scientific facts to closed-minded (and very feeble-minded) denier cult retards like you. It's very difficult getting anything through your thick skulls and brainwashed knee-jerk denial of science and reality. As you and the other denier cult nitwits so clearly demonstrate.

AGW Scientific "Fact"

Colder = warmer

 

[Vandalshandle]

Somebody call "60 minutes"! They need to do special alerts all day on the TV. "It is cold in North Dakota in the Wintertime!"

That shakes my faith in all the science I ever learned!

Typical libtard tomfoolery. I see you are as conversant with the seasons as most ignorant silly people. Funny how you adults claim to be so smart and yet my 7 year old daughter knows that it's still Fall. Winter doesn't start till the 21st of this month so put that in your pipe and smoke it, junior.

No more caffine for you, Westwall!

 

[Bloodrock44]

Maybe this is the beginning of the ice age those same scientists were predicting 30 years ago. They conveniently forgot about that. I didn't.

 

[RollingThunder]

So, no one seem to have been able to find a statement from a qualified climate scientist saying that cold snaps like this would never happen again. What an F-ing surprise.

I gave you one. Go look up David Viner and his (now famous) "children won't know what snow is" comment...Oh hell, here it is....you're too stupid to find it yourself so it took me all of two seconds...Knock yourself out...

"Global warming, the heating of the atmosphere by increased amounts of industrial gases, is now accepted as a reality by the international community. Average temperatures in Britain were nearly 0.6°C higher in the Nineties than in 1960-90, and it is estimated that they will increase by 0.2C every decade over the coming century. Eight of the 10 hottest years on record occurred in the Nineties.

However, the warming is so far manifesting itself more in winters which are less cold than in much hotter summers. According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia,within a few years winter snowfall will become "a very rare and exciting event".

"Children just aren't going to know what snow is," he said."

Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past - Environment - The Independent

Abraham was quite right. Climate scientists have not claimed that the world wouldn't ever experience cold weather again. The walleyedretard responds by pointing out that one lone scientist warned 13 years ago that snowfall would become rare in England - (David Viner and his (now famous) "children won't know what snow is" comment). What's obvious to everybody but the brainwashed denier cult retards is the fact that if Dr. Viner is "now famous" for that remark, then it must have been an unusual or extreme prediction. If all the other climate scientists had ever said anything like that then Dr. Viner's comment wouldn't be "famous" or unusual. And of course, ol' walleyed has to ignore the fact that Dr. Viner was only talking about Britain and also ignore the context for that statement and the rest of what Dr. Viner said in that article walleyed cited.

Here's another quote from Dr. Viner from walleyed's article:
"Heavy snow will return occasionally, says Dr Viner, but when it does we will be unprepared."

Now, let's look at the context for Dr. Viner's remark 13 years ago in 2000. The 1970s, 80s and 90s were a time of rapid surface temperature warming. Snowfall had declined quite a bit in Britain. As the article walleyed cited said:
"Britain's winter ends tomorrow with further indications of a striking environmental change: snow is starting to disappear from our lives. Sledges, snowmen, snowballs and the excitement of waking to find that the stuff has settled outside are all a rapidly diminishing part of Britain's culture, as warmer winters - which scientists are attributing to global climate change - produce not only fewer white Christmases, but fewer white Januaries and Februaries. The first two months of 2000 were virtually free of significant snowfall in much of lowland Britain, and December brought only moderate snowfall in the South-east. It is the continuation of a trend that has been increasingly visible in the past 15 years: in the south of England, for instance, from 1970 to 1995 snow and sleet fell for an average of 3.7 days, while from 1988 to 1995 the average was 0.7 days. London's last substantial snowfall was in February 1991."

So, given the trends they were witnessing at the time, Dr. Viner's prediction seemed logical. At that time climate scientists hadn't yet seen the changes in the path of the jet stream and some other effects produced by the rapidly shrinking Arctic ice. Because deniers are so ignorant about science, they ignore the fact that our scientific understanding of the world develops and progresses as new evidence and phenomena arise and are studied. It is only in the last 13 years that scientists have observed that the continuing rapid Arctic ice loss was changing the behavior of the jet stream, causing it to push Arctic air masses further south, and sometimes slowing it down, causing storms to linger in one area longer. Dr. Viner's prediction seems off base and premature now after some years of heavy winter snowstorms in England, Europe and parts of North America but, at the time in 2000, it was not unreasonable. Continued global warming will eventually cause much less snow in many places, but for now, other factors are overriding that trend.

 

[westwall]

So, no one seem to have been able to find a statement from a qualified climate scientist saying that cold snaps like this would never happen again. What an F-ing surprise.

I gave you one. Go look up David Viner and his (now famous) "children won't know what snow is" comment...Oh hell, here it is....you're too stupid to find it yourself so it took me all of two seconds...Knock yourself out...

"Global warming, the heating of the atmosphere by increased amounts of industrial gases, is now accepted as a reality by the international community. Average temperatures in Britain were nearly 0.6°C higher in the Nineties than in 1960-90, and it is estimated that they will increase by 0.2C every decade over the coming century. Eight of the 10 hottest years on record occurred in the Nineties.

However, the warming is so far manifesting itself more in winters which are less cold than in much hotter summers. According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia,within a few years winter snowfall will become "a very rare and exciting event".

"Children just aren't going to know what snow is," he said."

Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past - Environment - The Independent

Abraham was quite right. Climate scientists have not claimed that the world wouldn't ever experience cold weather again. The walleyedretard responds by pointing out that one lone scientist warned 13 years ago that snowfall would become rare in England - (David Viner and his (now famous) "children won't know what snow is" comment). What's obvious to everybody but the brainwashed denier cult retards is the fact that if Dr. Viner is "now famous" for that remark, then it must have been an unusual or extreme prediction. If all the other climate scientists had ever said anything like that then Dr. Viner's comment wouldn't be "famous" or unusual. And of course, ol' walleyed has to ignore the fact that Dr. Viner was only talking about Britain and also ignore the context for that statement and the rest of what Dr. Viner said in that article walleyed cited.

Here's another quote from Dr. Viner from walleyed's article:
"Heavy snow will return occasionally, says Dr Viner, but when it does we will be unprepared."

Now, let's look at the context for Dr. Viner's remark 13 years ago in 2000. The 1970s, 80s and 90s were a time of rapid surface temperature warming. Snowfall had declined quite a bit in Britain. As the article walleyed cited said:
"Britain's winter ends tomorrow with further indications of a striking environmental change: snow is starting to disappear from our lives. Sledges, snowmen, snowballs and the excitement of waking to find that the stuff has settled outside are all a rapidly diminishing part of Britain's culture, as warmer winters - which scientists are attributing to global climate change - produce not only fewer white Christmases, but fewer white Januaries and Februaries. The first two months of 2000 were virtually free of significant snowfall in much of lowland Britain, and December brought only moderate snowfall in the South-east. It is the continuation of a trend that has been increasingly visible in the past 15 years: in the south of England, for instance, from 1970 to 1995 snow and sleet fell for an average of 3.7 days, while from 1988 to 1995 the average was 0.7 days. London's last substantial snowfall was in February 1991."

So, given the trends they were witnessing at the time, Dr. Viner's prediction seemed logical. At that time climate scientists hadn't yet seen the changes in the path of the jet stream and some other effects produced by the rapidly shrinking Arctic ice. Because deniers are so ignorant about science, they ignore the fact that our scientific understanding of the world develops and progresses as new evidence and phenomena arise and are studied. It is only in the last 13 years that scientists have observed that the continuing rapid Arctic ice loss was changing the behavior of the jet stream, causing it to push Arctic air masses further south, and sometimes slowing it down, causing storms to linger in one area longer. Dr. Viner's prediction seems off base and premature now after some years of heavy winter snowstorms in England, Europe and parts of North America but, at the time in 2000, it was not unreasonable. Continued global warming will eventually cause much less snow in many places, but for now, other factors are overriding that trend.

You propagandists are so damned funny! "Let's look at the context", what a farce. Here's the reality numbnuts, there has been NO ARCTIC ICE FREE TIME. And, looking at the trends there won't be for a very, very long time. I remember when we were all making predictions a couple of years ago. You guys were all vague (as all con men are) with cute predictions of warming generally with ice cover decreasing.

On the other hand I quite clearly said that within 5 years we will see more extensive Arctic ice cover.

Looks like I'm correct and all you "consensus" types aren't.

Here's the current Arctic ice levels. 2% below the 1981-2010 mean and we aren't even in winter yet.

That would be an epic fail for you blunder....epic.

 

[PredFan]

Holy shit! That's freeze your nose hairs cold!


As of Wednesday afternoon, the Minnesota Department of Transportation reported difficult driving conditions on multiple highways due to snow-covered and slippery roads around Minneapolis. These hazardous roads include US-10 and I-94 in both directions, as well as on MN-15.

A crash also occurred on I-90 westbound between MN 91 and exit 33 during the late afternoon hours, causing slow traffic. At the time of the crash driving conditions were classified as difficult due to packed snow on the roadway.

Air travel is also being impacted as FlightStats reports excessive delays at Denver and Minneapolis-St. Paul airports.

AccuWeather RealFeel® temperatures will become dangerously low during and after the storm, plummeting to between 30 to 40 below zero on Wednesday night through Thursday night.

This is global warming, the atmospheric CO2 is causing a "bounce effect" in temperature, like a super ball effect.

Herein lies the scam that it at the heart of the global warming farce.

If its hot, it's global warming.
If its cold, it's global warming.
If there is drought, it's global warming.
If its raining, it's global warming.
If there are a lot of hurricanes, it's global warming.
If there are few hurricanes, it's global warming.
Earthquakes? Global warming.
Floods? Global warming.
Diseases? Global warming.
Tidal waves? Global warming.
Volcanoes? Global warming.
Stub your toe? Global warming.
Forgot to record your favorite TV show? Global warming.

You get the picture.

 

[whitehall]

Where is the cold air coming from? Outer space? If the polar bears are falling off their diminishing little patches of ice how the hell can Fargo be at -40 before winter officially begins?

 

[Synthaholic]

-40 in North Dakota!


Which is why I would never live in North Dakota.

 

[HelenaHandbag]

Is weather different from climate today or not?

I have trouble keeping track.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Is weather different from climate today or not?

I have trouble keeping track.

I have peer reviewed this post and find it 100% awesome

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Where is the cold air coming from? Outer space? If the polar bears are falling off their diminishing little patches of ice how the hell can Fargo be at -40 before winter officially begins?

Er because of global warning or maybe climate change....lets consult Manns tree rings

 

[Synthaholic]

Is weather different from climate today or not?

I have trouble keeping track.

I'll bet you do.

 

[Abraham3]

I wonder what the temperature at the North Pole has been doing while this Arctic air mass has descended over the midwest.

 

[HelenaHandbag]

I wonder why my navel is where it is.

 

[Abraham3]

Never mind, that was North Pole, Alaska.

 

[HelenaHandbag]

So the North Pole is now somewhere near Bismarck.

Probably a better tax environment for Santa's workshop.