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Once again, your reasoning is flawed because you're not paying attention.I can't see how rational people would choose what the democrats are offering because they don't like Trump as a person.
On the issues, Trump isn't far removed from Bill Clinton.Once again, your reasoning is flawed because you're not paying attention.I can't see how rational people would choose what the democrats are offering because they don't like Trump as a person.
His embarrassing behaviors and the ugly stain that is Trumpism come AFTER the fact that many of us disagree with him on...
.... ready? ....
THE ISSUES.
This really doesn't need to be that complicated. But you need to listen and think a little.
Where's my dang wallet you leftist prick.THE ISSUES.
Fine, what is the left offering that people should support? Don't just give a link to a platform. What do you believe working people want that democrats are offering? If it is all about the policies, then what besides higher taxes, energy costs, crime, and condemnation of all white people are democrats offering? Before you bash me for being lazy, your party is not exactly pushing any policy at the moment. None.Once again, your reasoning is flawed because you're not paying attention.I can't see how rational people would choose what the democrats are offering because they don't like Trump as a person.
His embarrassing behaviors and the ugly stain that is Trumpism come AFTER the fact that many of us disagree with him on...
.... ready? ....
THE ISSUES.
This really doesn't need to be that complicated. But you need to listen and think a little.
Do you realize you're on the internet? Why are you not curious enough to find out for yourself?Fine, what is the left offering that people should support? Don't just give a link to a platform. What do you believe working people want that democrats are offering? If it is all about the policies, then what besides higher taxes, energy costs, crime, and condemnation of all white people are democrats offering? Before you bash me for being lazy, your party is not exactly pushing any policy at the moment. None.Once again, your reasoning is flawed because you're not paying attention.I can't see how rational people would choose what the democrats are offering because they don't like Trump as a person.
His embarrassing behaviors and the ugly stain that is Trumpism come AFTER the fact that many of us disagree with him on...
.... ready? ....
THE ISSUES.
This really doesn't need to be that complicated. But you need to listen and think a little.
No thanks to changing towards Trumps toxic America.I never said I was working to do that I just said I think it would be a great thing for our country if we elected somebody outside of the Reps or Dems and ran our elections in a different wayYou have NFI what you're up against.Because the Reps and Dems are too big, too powerful and too corrupt. People need to run on ideas and accomplishments not on a party line. We don’t need parties anymore except to raise millions of dollars to campaign with which is the root of the problem.What do you need a third party for?...Better you purge your own party of the Marxist crackpots that are infesting it.If the Dems lose and trump goes for another 4 then it’s rip for a third party to come in 2024. I’d love to see a strong play for that if that’s the situationThe problem is, if Trump wins again, the Dems STILL won't look in the mirror.I’ve been talking to a lot of Republicans about this and I actually hear a lot of them say that they really don’t like the man Trump is or how he acts, but they dislike the Dems even more as they don’t believe in many of their extreme policy objectives. So they are voting for Trump because of the common enemy not because they support all he does and says.This is just a guess, of course, but somewhere around 48% of those who vote in November will be voting for Donald Trump. Without going into the laundry list of obvious examples or any of the standard talking points, there are certainly plenty of reasons not to. Yet he has a perfectly reasonable chance of winning.
Right now, polls show that about 43% of Americans approve of the job he's doing. This, after everything that has happened, and that number should be a very sobering indication of where this country is right now. Personally, I try to understand how these people can do this, but I still only understand some of it.
Anyway, here's the point: Elections are about contrasts. Choices. How can that many people support this disaster of a person? For many of them, they're looking at the alternative. And when those who provide their information and opinions for them point at things like PC and Identity Politics and Cancel Culture and an overall culture in decay, they can make reasonable points not to vote for the Democratic party. Even with, amazingly, this profoundly damaged person in the White House.
It's certainly too late to make any changes before November, but the Democratic party had a chance to take over the middle, and I don't see that happening. There is no excuse, zero, none, for the race to be this close. Regardless of who wins, the Democrats have too often allowed the wrong voices to represent them. It allows the Trumpsters to tie all the silliest crap coming from the hardcore Left to the milquetoast, feeble Biden.
This should be a learning experience, but I'm doubtful.
I think you’re right about the way the wings play into this. If the Dems go hard on the progressive causes... anti-gun, PC, cancel culture, raising taxes, regulating energy etc they are going to isolate many swing voters and push them into Trumps camp.
This is madness.
I worked with the Libertarian Party for two cycles...You'll never get your third party over the ballot access restrictions imposed by the states.....The LP spends millions and millions every year just to get on the ballot.
And the majors pepper them with frivolous lawsuits challenging that access. Combine that with 'reality tv' media, and there's not much hope. But - the real issue is the stupidity of voters. You simply can't maintain a democracy when voters are so easily manipulated.Perot was a one-off and the hurdles in many states are even higher now because of his candidacy....The debates are now closed to anyone but (R) & (D) because of him.It’s gotta be a Perot, Cuban, Bloomberg type with the cash to do it and they have to run on Campaign reform to break up the Rs and DsYou have NFI what you're up against.Because the Reps and Dems are too big, too powerful and too corrupt. People need to run on ideas and accomplishments not on a party line. We don’t need parties anymore except to raise millions of dollars to campaign with which is the root of the problem.What do you need a third party for?...Better you purge your own party of the Marxist crackpots that are infesting it.If the Dems lose and trump goes for another 4 then it’s rip for a third party to come in 2024. I’d love to see a strong play for that if that’s the situationThe problem is, if Trump wins again, the Dems STILL won't look in the mirror.I’ve been talking to a lot of Republicans about this and I actually hear a lot of them say that they really don’t like the man Trump is or how he acts, but they dislike the Dems even more as they don’t believe in many of their extreme policy objectives. So they are voting for Trump because of the common enemy not because they support all he does and says.This is just a guess, of course, but somewhere around 48% of those who vote in November will be voting for Donald Trump. Without going into the laundry list of obvious examples or any of the standard talking points, there are certainly plenty of reasons not to. Yet he has a perfectly reasonable chance of winning.
Right now, polls show that about 43% of Americans approve of the job he's doing. This, after everything that has happened, and that number should be a very sobering indication of where this country is right now. Personally, I try to understand how these people can do this, but I still only understand some of it.
Anyway, here's the point: Elections are about contrasts. Choices. How can that many people support this disaster of a person? For many of them, they're looking at the alternative. And when those who provide their information and opinions for them point at things like PC and Identity Politics and Cancel Culture and an overall culture in decay, they can make reasonable points not to vote for the Democratic party. Even with, amazingly, this profoundly damaged person in the White House.
It's certainly too late to make any changes before November, but the Democratic party had a chance to take over the middle, and I don't see that happening. There is no excuse, zero, none, for the race to be this close. Regardless of who wins, the Democrats have too often allowed the wrong voices to represent them. It allows the Trumpsters to tie all the silliest crap coming from the hardcore Left to the milquetoast, feeble Biden.
This should be a learning experience, but I'm doubtful.
I think you’re right about the way the wings play into this. If the Dems go hard on the progressive causes... anti-gun, PC, cancel culture, raising taxes, regulating energy etc they are going to isolate many swing voters and push them into Trumps camp.
This is madness.
I worked with the Libertarian Party for two cycles...You'll never get your third party over the ballot access restrictions imposed by the states.....The LP spends millions and millions every year just to get on the ballot.
I worked in the trenches, while you're spitballing on a message board....You have next to zero chance of getting any new third party on enough ballots to do anything.
Republicans are doing that. Trump is different. The big State Republicans went to the Democrats and Republicans drew people like me in who hadn't been voting for them in decades. It's a new game.
On the other hand, you are supporting the party that's still run, run pass and punt that you're saying you'd like to change
It's all about the "wingers" and "triblaists" with Mac the Hack.....Right up to the point that he throws in with his tribe.Fine, what is the left offering that people should support? Don't just give a link to a platform. What do you believe working people want that democrats are offering? If it is all about the policies, then what besides higher taxes, energy costs, crime, and condemnation of all white people are democrats offering? Before you bash me for being lazy, your party is not exactly pushing any policy at the moment. None.Once again, your reasoning is flawed because you're not paying attention.I can't see how rational people would choose what the democrats are offering because they don't like Trump as a person.
His embarrassing behaviors and the ugly stain that is Trumpism come AFTER the fact that many of us disagree with him on...
.... ready? ....
THE ISSUES.
This really doesn't need to be that complicated. But you need to listen and think a little.
And there's another one.It's all about the "wingers" and "triblaists" with Mac the Hack.....Right up to the point that he throws in with his tribe.Fine, what is the left offering that people should support? Don't just give a link to a platform. What do you believe working people want that democrats are offering? If it is all about the policies, then what besides higher taxes, energy costs, crime, and condemnation of all white people are democrats offering? Before you bash me for being lazy, your party is not exactly pushing any policy at the moment. None.Once again, your reasoning is flawed because you're not paying attention.I can't see how rational people would choose what the democrats are offering because they don't like Trump as a person.
His embarrassing behaviors and the ugly stain that is Trumpism come AFTER the fact that many of us disagree with him on...
.... ready? ....
THE ISSUES.
This really doesn't need to be that complicated. But you need to listen and think a little.
He even said so himself...He's not going to his tribe because Biden has the issues, it's because ORANGE MAN BAD!
He's as big a phony as you will find.
That's it, really? I'm CURIOUS why your party is not leading with ANY policy in a campaign year.Do you realize you're on the internet? Why are you not curious enough to find out for yourself?Fine, what is the left offering that people should support? Don't just give a link to a platform. What do you believe working people want that democrats are offering? If it is all about the policies, then what besides higher taxes, energy costs, crime, and condemnation of all white people are democrats offering? Before you bash me for being lazy, your party is not exactly pushing any policy at the moment. None.Once again, your reasoning is flawed because you're not paying attention.I can't see how rational people would choose what the democrats are offering because they don't like Trump as a person.
His embarrassing behaviors and the ugly stain that is Trumpism come AFTER the fact that many of us disagree with him on...
.... ready? ....
THE ISSUES.
This really doesn't need to be that complicated. But you need to listen and think a little.
Why not listen to people who think differently than you instead of believing what you're TOLD they think?
This is on you, not me. YOU have to be CURIOUS for a change.
YOU'RE ON THE INTERNET.
This is why I don't bother.That's it, really? I'm CURIOUS why your party is not leading with ANY policy in a campaign year.Do you realize you're on the internet? Why are you not curious enough to find out for yourself?Fine, what is the left offering that people should support? Don't just give a link to a platform. What do you believe working people want that democrats are offering? If it is all about the policies, then what besides higher taxes, energy costs, crime, and condemnation of all white people are democrats offering? Before you bash me for being lazy, your party is not exactly pushing any policy at the moment. None.Once again, your reasoning is flawed because you're not paying attention.I can't see how rational people would choose what the democrats are offering because they don't like Trump as a person.
His embarrassing behaviors and the ugly stain that is Trumpism come AFTER the fact that many of us disagree with him on...
.... ready? ....
THE ISSUES.
This really doesn't need to be that complicated. But you need to listen and think a little.
Why not listen to people who think differently than you instead of believing what you're TOLD they think?
This is on you, not me. YOU have to be CURIOUS for a change.
YOU'RE ON THE INTERNET.
There you have it....Do you realize you're on the internet? Why are you not curious enough to find out for yourself?Fine, what is the left offering that people should support? Don't just give a link to a platform. What do you believe working people want that democrats are offering? If it is all about the policies, then what besides higher taxes, energy costs, crime, and condemnation of all white people are democrats offering? Before you bash me for being lazy, your party is not exactly pushing any policy at the moment. None.Once again, your reasoning is flawed because you're not paying attention.I can't see how rational people would choose what the democrats are offering because they don't like Trump as a person.
His embarrassing behaviors and the ugly stain that is Trumpism come AFTER the fact that many of us disagree with him on...
.... ready? ....
THE ISSUES.
This really doesn't need to be that complicated. But you need to listen and think a little.
Why not listen to people who think differently than you instead of believing what you're TOLD they think?
This is on you, not me. YOU have to be CURIOUS for a change.
YOU'RE ON THE INTERNET.
Another one calling your ass out............lmaoAnd there's another one.It's all about the "wingers" and "triblaists" with Mac the Hack.....Right up to the point that he throws in with his tribe.Fine, what is the left offering that people should support? Don't just give a link to a platform. What do you believe working people want that democrats are offering? If it is all about the policies, then what besides higher taxes, energy costs, crime, and condemnation of all white people are democrats offering? Before you bash me for being lazy, your party is not exactly pushing any policy at the moment. None.Once again, your reasoning is flawed because you're not paying attention.I can't see how rational people would choose what the democrats are offering because they don't like Trump as a person.
His embarrassing behaviors and the ugly stain that is Trumpism come AFTER the fact that many of us disagree with him on...
.... ready? ....
THE ISSUES.
This really doesn't need to be that complicated. But you need to listen and think a little.
He even said so himself...He's not going to his tribe because Biden has the issues, it's because ORANGE MAN BAD!
He's as big a phony as you will find.
"Another one" what, asshole?And there's another one.It's all about the "wingers" and "triblaists" with Mac the Hack.....Right up to the point that he throws in with his tribe.Fine, what is the left offering that people should support? Don't just give a link to a platform. What do you believe working people want that democrats are offering? If it is all about the policies, then what besides higher taxes, energy costs, crime, and condemnation of all white people are democrats offering? Before you bash me for being lazy, your party is not exactly pushing any policy at the moment. None.Once again, your reasoning is flawed because you're not paying attention.I can't see how rational people would choose what the democrats are offering because they don't like Trump as a person.
His embarrassing behaviors and the ugly stain that is Trumpism come AFTER the fact that many of us disagree with him on...
.... ready? ....
THE ISSUES.
This really doesn't need to be that complicated. But you need to listen and think a little.
He even said so himself...He's not going to his tribe because Biden has the issues, it's because ORANGE MAN BAD!
He's as big a phony as you will find.
I agree that elections are about contrasts, but I'm curious what you believe the left is offering people. As far as I can tell, the democrats only have one viable policy which is healthcare. That is a problem, especially when you think about who actually needs more government involvement in healthcare. With medicare and medicaid, who exactly is the target for further involvement? Add in the fact that democrats are pushing that ALL white people are racists, and causing spikes in violent crime, what again are democrats offering working people? It gets even worse when democrats are promising to raise taxes during a recovery and plan to raise the costs of energy. I can't see how rational people would choose what the democrats are offering because they don't like Trump as a person.This is just a guess, of course, but somewhere around 48% of those who vote in November will be voting for Donald Trump. Without going into the laundry list of obvious examples or any of the standard talking points, there are certainly plenty of reasons not to. Yet he has a perfectly reasonable chance of winning.
Right now, polls show that about 43% of Americans approve of the job he's doing. This, after everything that has happened, and that number should be a very sobering indication of where this country is right now. Personally, I try to understand how these people can do this, but I still only understand some of it.
Anyway, here's the point: Elections are about contrasts. Choices. How can that many people support this disaster of a person? For many of them, they're looking at the alternative. And when those who provide their information and opinions for them point at things like PC and Identity Politics and Cancel Culture and an overall culture in decay, they can make reasonable points not to vote for the Democratic party. Even with, amazingly, this profoundly damaged person in the White House.
It's certainly too late to make any changes before November, but the Democratic party had a chance to take over the middle, and I don't see that happening. There is no excuse, zero, none, for the race to be this close. Regardless of who wins, the Democrats have too often allowed the wrong voices to represent them. It allows the Trumpsters to tie all the silliest crap coming from the hardcore Left to the milquetoast, feeble Biden.
This should be a learning experience, but I'm doubtful.
He's on the ropes.......finish him...There you have it....Do you realize you're on the internet? Why are you not curious enough to find out for yourself?Fine, what is the left offering that people should support? Don't just give a link to a platform. What do you believe working people want that democrats are offering? If it is all about the policies, then what besides higher taxes, energy costs, crime, and condemnation of all white people are democrats offering? Before you bash me for being lazy, your party is not exactly pushing any policy at the moment. None.Once again, your reasoning is flawed because you're not paying attention.I can't see how rational people would choose what the democrats are offering because they don't like Trump as a person.
His embarrassing behaviors and the ugly stain that is Trumpism come AFTER the fact that many of us disagree with him on...
.... ready? ....
THE ISSUES.
This really doesn't need to be that complicated. But you need to listen and think a little.
Why not listen to people who think differently than you instead of believing what you're TOLD they think?
This is on you, not me. YOU have to be CURIOUS for a change.
YOU'RE ON THE INTERNET.
Even he doesn't know THE ISSUES that he's supposedly supporting, to the extent that he'll tell you about them....It's up to you to Google it and presume that's what he's all about.
Not just a phony, but a fucking coward to boot.
Yeah I don't get it either. Maybe America in the recesses of our collective soul is as fascistic and authoritarian as any banana republic. Democracy is no longer reliably producing rich, white plutocratic politicians so it must be time to destroy it.
Once again we are a representative republic.
And with all of that, he is still five times better than TrumpWell, it's not just that. Biden is a long time DC insider with a history of saying stupid things, he's accomplishing nothing personally except the crime bill he keeps apologizing for and now he farts dust. And while you may think you're getting him past his racist comments by ignoring them and they don't bother you, I think they do more damage than you realize
You have no concept what is Americanism if you doubt that Kasich and Romney have far more in common than the national populist Trump with Reagan.They certainly conservatives in line with Reagan and Goldwater, indeed. Disagreement with Trump is Americanism, not 'commie scum.' There are no Marxists in America as you describe. I do believe the far right of the GOP is awash with cultural fascism.Yes, Will, McCain, Romney, Kasich are hardly conservatives. If they said they weren't going to vote for Trump that's one thing, but voting for Biden is another. What a pathetic lot. They went from my disagreeing with them to their being Commie scum who are voting and endorsing an America hating Marxist. You know, like you. Who the hell is "Army?"
I'm just laughing at you now. Kascich and Romney are like Reagan? You're completely delusional
You are right that 2016 has nothing to do with 2020.The same way that McMullen pulled off Utah in 2016!.....Oh wait.The power of the states' minority vote to obstruct will change. In fact, the NPV will law of the land by 2024.People like you should not have their votes equal to people like me. We need to change that.Democrats crowed about the EC in 2012 when Obama won re-election. Then they melted down about it in 2016 when Trump won. Their indignation is totally driven by circumstance.
Why would they crow about it. Obama won the Popular vote handily....
I don't want PV and would never want it regardless of how elections turned out. That would just be tyranny of the majority
And so? As opposed to what, the tyranny of the minority?
I trust the people to get these things right, thank you... You clearly don't.
You you going to pull that off, Fakey Jakey?
