49-State Analysis: Obamacare To Increase Individual-Market Premiums By Average Of 41%

[bripat9643]

So much for the claim that higher costs for some are balanced out by lower costs for others. We're all getting screwed, folks.

49-State Analysis: Obamacare To Increase Individual-Market Premiums By Average Of 41% - Forbes

One of the fundamental flaws of the Affordable Care Act is that, despite its name, it makes health insurance more expensive. Today, the Manhattan Institute released the most comprehensive analysis yet conducted of premiums under Obamacare for people who shop for coverage on their own. Here’s what we learned. In the average state, Obamacare will increase underlying premiums by 41 percent. As we have long expected, the steepest hikes will be imposed on the healthy, the young, and the male. And Obamacare’s taxpayer-funded subsidies will primarily benefit those nearing retirement—people who, unlike the young, have had their whole lives to save for their health-care needs.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

And, you have the recent college grads who have no job and are forced into this. Yeah, this is the ultimate screw job.

 

[paperview]

....The Manhattan Institute...

Yeah, that's an unbiased source.

 

[NYcarbineer]

And, you have the recent college grads who have no job and are forced into this. Yeah, this is the ultimate screw job.

A recent unemployed college grad can

1. stay on their parents' plan if applicable,

2. go on Medicaid in many cases,

3. satisfy the ACA mandate with the under 30 catastrophic policy,

4. or, to use the popular rightwing admonition, 'get a fucking job, slacker!!!'

 

[bripat9643]

And, you have the recent college grads who have no job and are forced into this. Yeah, this is the ultimate screw job.

What I'd like to know is how the Democrats thought that screwing at least half the population of the United States was a good formula for electoral success.

They actually believed that once Obamacare was a fait accompli that the voters wouldn't care about getting screwed.

 

[bripat9643]

And, you have the recent college grads who have no job and are forced into this. Yeah, this is the ultimate screw job.

A recent unemployed college grad can

1. stay on their parents' plan if applicable,

2. go on Medicaid in many cases,

3. satisfy the ACA mandate with the under 30 catastrophic policy,

4. or, to use the popular rightwing admonition, 'get a fucking job, slacker!!!'

There's that liberal compassion we've all come to know and love.

 

[bripat9643]

....The Manhattan Institute...

Yeah, that's an unbiased source.

Did you expect ThinkProgress.org to inform you of all the ugly facts concerning Obamacare?

 

[NYcarbineer]

All such studies are bullshit.

Comparing a $50/month fake insurance policy that is virtually worthless in the event of real healthcare events to a more costly policy that will actually pay out 85% (on average) of what it collects in premiums is apples to oranges in the worst sense of the phrase.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

So much for the claim that higher costs for some are balanced out by lower costs for others. We're all getting screwed, folks.

49-State Analysis: Obamacare To Increase Individual-Market Premiums By Average Of 41% - Forbes

One of the fundamental flaws of the Affordable Care Act is that, despite its name, it makes health insurance more expensive. Today, the Manhattan Institute released the most comprehensive analysis yet conducted of premiums under Obamacare for people who shop for coverage on their own. Here’s what we learned. In the average state, Obamacare will increase underlying premiums by 41 percent. As we have long expected, the steepest hikes will be imposed on the healthy, the young, and the male. And Obamacare’s taxpayer-funded subsidies will primarily benefit those nearing retirement—people who, unlike the young, have had their whole lives to save for their health-care needs.

yup.....i sure wouldn't be calling an average 41% increase "Affordable".....

and this is just for the first year right...? aren't premiums expected to go even higher....?

 

[bripat9643]

All such studies are bullshit.

Comparing a $50/month fake insurance policy that is virtually worthless in the event of real healthcare events to a more costly policy that will actually pay out 85% (on average) of what it collects in premiums is apples to oranges in the worst sense of the phrase.

The study compares all pre-Obamacare insurance policies against Obamacare policies, moron.

What evidence do you have for these so called "fake insurance policies?" So far I haven't seen any posted that they actually exist. It's just another lie the Obama fluffers made-up to protect their messiah from the wrath of his victims.

 

[Rozman]

Maybe this is all by design...
We have Obama totally screwing up the health care system so he can say...
Hey people this system can only be fixed by single payer government run health care.

I think the Limbaugh theorem will be proved out after all.

 

[NYcarbineer]

All such studies are bullshit.

Comparing a $50/month fake insurance policy that is virtually worthless in the event of real healthcare events to a more costly policy that will actually pay out 85% (on average) of what it collects in premiums is apples to oranges in the worst sense of the phrase.

The study compares all pre-Obamacare insurance policies against Obamacare policies, moron.

What evidence do you have for these so called "fake insurance policies?" So far I haven't seen any posted that they actually exist. It's just another lie the Obama fluffers made-up to protect their messiah from the wrath of his victims.

People are going to the exchanges and finding out that in fact they qualify for Medicaid, at a cost of nothing.

Are they averaging those in too?

 

[JakeStarkey]

And what are the subsidies for the increase in 41% of the increased premiums?

 

[Katzndogz]

Medicaid is not free enough oeople in that system will break it Cloward Piven style.

 

[Antares]

All such studies are bullshit.

Comparing a $50/month fake insurance policy that is virtually worthless in the event of real healthcare events to a more costly policy that will actually pay out 85% (on average) of what it collects in premiums is apples to oranges in the worst sense of the phrase.

Actually girly your opinion is bullshit...Premiums went UP....coverage went DOWN.

 

[Rozman]

Nancy Pelosi is rumored to have said... 41% that's not even close to 50%...
What's the big deal?

 

[Rozman]

What was that John Mellencamp song?

And the Walls they come tumblin down
And the Walls come crumblin crumblin...

 

[Rozman]

Even Obama admits he fucked this thing up and people are defending him?

 

[NYcarbineer]

All such studies are bullshit.

Comparing a $50/month fake insurance policy that is virtually worthless in the event of real healthcare events to a more costly policy that will actually pay out 85% (on average) of what it collects in premiums is apples to oranges in the worst sense of the phrase.

Actually girly your opinion is bullshit...Premiums went UP....coverage went DOWN.

Turn off your radio, retread.

 

[Antares]

All such studies are bullshit.

Comparing a $50/month fake insurance policy that is virtually worthless in the event of real healthcare events to a more costly policy that will actually pay out 85% (on average) of what it collects in premiums is apples to oranges in the worst sense of the phrase.

Actually girly your opinion is bullshit...Premiums went UP....coverage went DOWN.

Turn off your radio, retread.

Fairly witty for a red helmet/short bus candidate.

But the facts are rates up, benefits down....sorry kid.