58 straight months of jobs growth, ACA working great where allowed to, where is this bad economy?

Back in 2008 with the corrupt Boooshies and their bubble bust as usual...GOP voters are totally misinformed by megarich greedy lying Pubs and their bs media. Will they never learn?
The GOP s Job Killer Problem With Obamacare - ABC News
BAD ECONOMY:

(1) Less home ownership
(2) Jobs consist of low wage, part-time, and temporary employment
(3) Businesses are offering less company paid benefits
(4) The cost of living to real wage ratio
(5) Higher health care cost
(6) Higher rent, utilities, and food cost
(7) Student loan debt
(8) 50% of children living at or below the poverty line
(9) Approximately 47 million receiving food stamps
(10) An astronomical and rising national debt
(11) Savings accounts paying .25% interest
(12) Troubled pension funds
(13) Cities going bankrupt
(14) Malls closing
(15) Retail chains closing stores
(16) Consumer spending down
(17) Our rundown infrastructure
(18) Growing gap between the rich and the poor
(19) The decline of the Middle Class
(20) Millions receiving some form of government assistance
(21) College grads working at low wage jobs and living with parents
(22) The cost of higher education
(23) Our dependency on cheap foreign imports
(24) Businesses off-shore out-sourcing jobs and importing labor
(25) The influx of cheap illegal immigrant labor
(26) Lost home equity
(27) Government debt keeping the economy afloat
(28) Technology, automation, and innovation replacing workers
(29) Men, women, children, and families homeless
(30) Many working and still receiving some form of government assistance

Yep, we're doing great. Economically, we're booming, and things couldn't be better. We're experiencing economic growth and stability. America is working, and the wheels of commerce are turning full speed. We have an internal cash flow unmatched anywhere in the world. As a matter of fact, we're doing so great, that we're giving away multi-$Billions to foreign governments, engaging in senseless deadly costly wars, and providing care and support for millions of illegal immigrants. What more could we ask for?


What's funny is these sh*tstain progressives complain about many of the things on your list about how screwed up our economy is, usually on threads meant to attack capitalism in general. Yet when it comes to the Hussein and his record, suddenly they are trying to convince everyone what a wonderful job he is doing.
He would have done a lot better without 6 years of mindless Pub obstruction and shutdown threats...that Foxbots etc etc don't seem to know about...

Judging from the AWFUL legislation that the progressive wing of the Democratic Party gave us in the two years that they controlled the House, Senate and Oval Office, Franco...it's small wonder that the electorate introduced obstruction to the process when they voted out record numbers of Democrats. That didn't happen because progressives were doing wonderful things...that happened because they chose to take advantage of a financial crisis to pass a completely flawed and poorly named ACA...and a stimulus plan that rewarded Democratic supporters more than it stimulated a staggering economy.
BS. ACA is the best thing to happen to Americans ever, over time will continue improving and cutting costs, and the stimulus turned around Main St, dingbat. And then the GOP obstructed the recovery and threatenened shutdowns, costing the GDP 1%+ each time.

AND you think the Dems controlled congress for 2 years, HENCE, you too are a brainwashed dunce. Less than 6 months- with Teddy able to vote and in session, THIRTEEN DAYS. IDIOT.
 
Where are 10 million illegals working? Can we at least find 50% of the illegal employers then the other half will probably stop hiring illegals then they go home and or don't come to begin with.

They are working the farms.
That's what McCain said but turns out that's a lie.

I could find thousands of illegals. Ever fly to NYC? The whole place is staffed by illegals.

Then check every construction or factory or company with mexican workers.

I hired Mexicans, good workers. They were documented or they didn't work for me. It is the law.
And half of them have FAKE ID. This will not work until a bill is passed with an SS/ID card that can't be faked. Idiot.
 
Back in 2008 with the corrupt Boooshies and their bubble bust as usual...GOP voters are totally misinformed by megarich greedy lying Pubs and their bs media. Will they never learn?
The GOP s Job Killer Problem With Obamacare - ABC News
BAD ECONOMY:

(1) Less home ownership
(2) Jobs consist of low wage, part-time, and temporary employment
(3) Businesses are offering less company paid benefits
(4) The cost of living to real wage ratio
(5) Higher health care cost
(6) Higher rent, utilities, and food cost
(7) Student loan debt
(8) 50% of children living at or below the poverty line
(9) Approximately 47 million receiving food stamps
(10) An astronomical and rising national debt
(11) Savings accounts paying .25% interest
(12) Troubled pension funds
(13) Cities going bankrupt
(14) Malls closing
(15) Retail chains closing stores
(16) Consumer spending down
(17) Our rundown infrastructure
(18) Growing gap between the rich and the poor
(19) The decline of the Middle Class
(20) Millions receiving some form of government assistance
(21) College grads working at low wage jobs and living with parents
(22) The cost of higher education
(23) Our dependency on cheap foreign imports
(24) Businesses off-shore out-sourcing jobs and importing labor
(25) The influx of cheap illegal immigrant labor
(26) Lost home equity
(27) Government debt keeping the economy afloat
(28) Technology, automation, and innovation replacing workers
(29) Men, women, children, and families homeless
(30) Many working and still receiving some form of government assistance

Yep, we're doing great. Economically, we're booming, and things couldn't be better. We're experiencing economic growth and stability. America is working, and the wheels of commerce are turning full speed. We have an internal cash flow unmatched anywhere in the world. As a matter of fact, we're doing so great, that we're giving away multi-$Billions to foreign governments, engaging in senseless deadly costly wars, and providing care and support for millions of illegal immigrants. What more could we ask for?


What's funny is these sh*tstain progressives complain about many of the things on your list about how screwed up our economy is, usually on threads meant to attack capitalism in general. Yet when it comes to the Hussein and his record, suddenly they are trying to convince everyone what a wonderful job he is doing.
He would have done a lot better without 6 years of mindless Pub obstruction and shutdown threats...that Foxbots etc etc don't seem to know about...

Judging from the AWFUL legislation that the progressive wing of the Democratic Party gave us in the two years that they controlled the House, Senate and Oval Office, Franco...it's small wonder that the electorate introduced obstruction to the process when they voted out record numbers of Democrats. That didn't happen because progressives were doing wonderful things...that happened because they chose to take advantage of a financial crisis to pass a completely flawed and poorly named ACA...and a stimulus plan that rewarded Democratic supporters more than it stimulated a staggering economy.
BS. ACA is the best thing to happen to Americans ever, over time will continue improving and cutting costs, and the stimulus turned around Main St, dingbat. And then the GOP obstructed the recovery and threatenened shutdowns, costing the GDP 1%+ each time.

AND you think the Dems controlled congress for 2 years, HENCE, you too are a branwashed dunce. Less than 6 months- with Teddy able to vote and in session, THIRTEEN DAYS. IDIOT.
And I like how they tax people who opt out of the aca. Something like $200 a month every month you weren't covered. So if you aren't covered all year and you were gonna get $2400 back you get zero.
 
Bullshit!
It only takes 111,853 jobs per month to keep up with population growth and Obama is generating double that number.

Jobs Calculator - Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta

You aren't allowing for all the illegal immigrants he is letting into the country, bub.

You are also assuming that the cratered LFPR is a good thing.
The inflow of illegal GOP/Chamber of Commerce laborers is equal to the outflow.
Try again.

The drop in LPR is due to changing demographics, not the economy.
Try again.


I've already proven that you are wrong with the LFPR rate change by age cohort. So, you lose.

View attachment 46913
You have only proven you understand nothing!
With each year more "Boomers" leave the workforce and fewer "Busters" take their place in the prime working age group.

http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2005/11/art3full.pdf

Between 1946 and 1964, the U.S. fertility rate increased substantially, and approximately 78 million people were born. This huge segment of the population, called the “baby boomers,” were between the ages of 40 and 58 years in 2004 and will be between the ages of 50 and 68 years in 2014.

Between 1965 and 1976, the number of births decreased once again. The population born during this time, called the “baby bust,” will constitute part of the prime-aged worker group 25 to 54 years of age from 2004 to 2014. The baby-bust population is much smaller than the baby-boom population, and this difference in their numbers will contribute to the decrease in the growth of the labor force during those years.

Yeah, abortion's working out real well for you, isn't it???? As long as we can keep enough people working, Social Security is sustainable. With a shrinking workforce, it's not!!!!
Number of Abortions in US Worldwide - Number of abortions since 1973
Your desperation is showing!
Abortion had nothing to do with the baby-bust from 1965 to 1976. In fact, a baby-boom-echo began after 1976.
Try again.
 
You aren't allowing for all the illegal immigrants he is letting into the country, bub.

You are also assuming that the cratered LFPR is a good thing.
The inflow of illegal GOP/Chamber of Commerce laborers is equal to the outflow.
Try again.

The drop in LPR is due to changing demographics, not the economy.
Try again.


I've already proven that you are wrong with the LFPR rate change by age cohort. So, you lose.

View attachment 46913
You have only proven you understand nothing!
With each year more "Boomers" leave the workforce and fewer "Busters" take their place in the prime working age group.

http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2005/11/art3full.pdf

Between 1946 and 1964, the U.S. fertility rate increased substantially, and approximately 78 million people were born. This huge segment of the population, called the “baby boomers,” were between the ages of 40 and 58 years in 2004 and will be between the ages of 50 and 68 years in 2014.

Between 1965 and 1976, the number of births decreased once again. The population born during this time, called the “baby bust,” will constitute part of the prime-aged worker group 25 to 54 years of age from 2004 to 2014. The baby-bust population is much smaller than the baby-boom population, and this difference in their numbers will contribute to the decrease in the growth of the labor force during those years.

Yeah, abortion's working out real well for you, isn't it???? As long as we can keep enough people working, Social Security is sustainable. With a shrinking workforce, it's not!!!!
Number of Abortions in US Worldwide - Number of abortions since 1973
Thats why we need to make Mexicans working here tax paying Americans. What's wrong with beaners? Odaley hessay
Exactly, immigration will grow the workforce just as surely as the birth rate.
 
Where are 10 million illegals working? Can we at least find 50% of the illegal employers then the other half will probably stop hiring illegals then they go home and or don't come to begin with.

They are working the farms.
That's what McCain said but turns out that's a lie.

I could find thousands of illegals. Ever fly to NYC? The whole place is staffed by illegals.

Then check every construction or factory or company with mexican workers.

I hired Mexicans, good workers. They were documented or they didn't work for me. It is the law.
So you and all your conservative pals pay all your taxes and check all your Mexicans. How patriotic of you. You're acting like corporations don't cheat.

Maybe those bush tax breaks don't include small business owners such as yourselves.

Tell me, is or are your corporations sitting on billions? Then I'm not even talking about you. Youre on of us. And if you aren't, don't ask us to agree with your slant on things. Greed selfish and ignorance is what you are praying on and there's plenty of that here in America.

We should toss out any American who doesn't vote.

Fuck you, I follow the laws it makes life easier. You can't write off illegal aliens. You pay taxes and permits because if you don't, you are screwed during any audit. Be it the IRS, State tax division, employment division, workmans comp. And so on. To try to go under the table or cheat, you could lose your business. It isn't worth it.

Legal is the best way to go, your whole idea that small businesses pay under the table, hire illegally is silly. Most are legit, it is a lot easier and if they are doing things illegally you need to report them instead of bitching about them. Those guys do us legit guys no favors.
 
BAD ECONOMY:

(1) Less home ownership
(2) Jobs consist of low wage, part-time, and temporary employment
(3) Businesses are offering less company paid benefits
(4) The cost of living to real wage ratio
(5) Higher health care cost
(6) Higher rent, utilities, and food cost
(7) Student loan debt
(8) 50% of children living at or below the poverty line
(9) Approximately 47 million receiving food stamps
(10) An astronomical and rising national debt
(11) Savings accounts paying .25% interest
(12) Troubled pension funds
(13) Cities going bankrupt
(14) Malls closing
(15) Retail chains closing stores
(16) Consumer spending down
(17) Our rundown infrastructure
(18) Growing gap between the rich and the poor
(19) The decline of the Middle Class
(20) Millions receiving some form of government assistance
(21) College grads working at low wage jobs and living with parents
(22) The cost of higher education
(23) Our dependency on cheap foreign imports
(24) Businesses off-shore out-sourcing jobs and importing labor
(25) The influx of cheap illegal immigrant labor
(26) Lost home equity
(27) Government debt keeping the economy afloat
(28) Technology, automation, and innovation replacing workers
(29) Men, women, children, and families homeless
(30) Many working and still receiving some form of government assistance

Yep, we're doing great. Economically, we're booming, and things couldn't be better. We're experiencing economic growth and stability. America is working, and the wheels of commerce are turning full speed. We have an internal cash flow unmatched anywhere in the world. As a matter of fact, we're doing so great, that we're giving away multi-$Billions to foreign governments, engaging in senseless deadly costly wars, and providing care and support for millions of illegal immigrants. What more could we ask for?


What's funny is these sh*tstain progressives complain about many of the things on your list about how screwed up our economy is, usually on threads meant to attack capitalism in general. Yet when it comes to the Hussein and his record, suddenly they are trying to convince everyone what a wonderful job he is doing.
He would have done a lot better without 6 years of mindless Pub obstruction and shutdown threats...that Foxbots etc etc don't seem to know about...

Judging from the AWFUL legislation that the progressive wing of the Democratic Party gave us in the two years that they controlled the House, Senate and Oval Office, Franco...it's small wonder that the electorate introduced obstruction to the process when they voted out record numbers of Democrats. That didn't happen because progressives were doing wonderful things...that happened because they chose to take advantage of a financial crisis to pass a completely flawed and poorly named ACA...and a stimulus plan that rewarded Democratic supporters more than it stimulated a staggering economy.
BS. ACA is the best thing to happen to Americans ever, over time will continue improving and cutting costs, and the stimulus turned around Main St, dingbat. And then the GOP obstructed the recovery and threatenened shutdowns, costing the GDP 1%+ each time.

AND you think the Dems controlled congress for 2 years, HENCE, you too are a branwashed dunce. Less than 6 months- with Teddy able to vote and in session, THIRTEEN DAYS. IDIOT.
And I like how they tax people who opt out of the aca. Something like $200 a month every month you weren't covered. So if you aren't covered all year and you were gonna get $2400 back you get zero.
That's a lot less than the $600 I pay. I pay $7200 a year and get a well check visit.
 
Where are 10 million illegals working? Can we at least find 50% of the illegal employers then the other half will probably stop hiring illegals then they go home and or don't come to begin with.

They are working the farms.
That's what McCain said but turns out that's a lie.

I could find thousands of illegals. Ever fly to NYC? The whole place is staffed by illegals.

Then check every construction or factory or company with mexican workers.

I hired Mexicans, good workers. They were documented or they didn't work for me. It is the law.
And half of them have FAKE ID. This will not work until a bill is passed with an SS/ID card that can't be faked. Idiot.

Wrong! We run their ID through a background check and that goes to SSI dip shit and they will comeback and tell you whether the person is using a legit number or one that is already being used. It will also confirm the name we have to the name they give us. We caught a couple that way.

Dumb fuck!
 
Where are 10 million illegals working? Can we at least find 50% of the illegal employers then the other half will probably stop hiring illegals then they go home and or don't come to begin with.

They are working the farms.
That's what McCain said but turns out that's a lie.

I could find thousands of illegals. Ever fly to NYC? The whole place is staffed by illegals.

Then check every construction or factory or company with mexican workers.

I hired Mexicans, good workers. They were documented or they didn't work for me. It is the law.
And half of them have FAKE ID. This will not work until a bill is passed with an SS/ID card that can't be faked. Idiot.

Wrong! We run their ID through a background check and that goes to SSI dip shit and they will comeback and tell you whether the person is using a legit number or one that is already being used. It will also confirm the name we have to the name they give us. We caught a couple that way.

Dumb fuck!
Obviously you're an exception. Try and remain calm lol...
 
They are working the farms.
That's what McCain said but turns out that's a lie.

I could find thousands of illegals. Ever fly to NYC? The whole place is staffed by illegals.

Then check every construction or factory or company with mexican workers.

I hired Mexicans, good workers. They were documented or they didn't work for me. It is the law.
And half of them have FAKE ID. This will not work until a bill is passed with an SS/ID card that can't be faked. Idiot.

Wrong! We run their ID through a background check and that goes to SSI dip shit and they will comeback and tell you whether the person is using a legit number or one that is already being used. It will also confirm the name we have to the name they give us. We caught a couple that way.

Dumb fuck!
Obviously you're an exception. Try and remain calm lol...

Obviously you were dead fucking wrong on your accusation, you called me an idiot. I proved you were wrong and called you a dumb fuck. I am calm. Dumb fucks like yourself are jokes to me. I never take you seriously, you vomit too many libtard lies.
 
Government jobs as in federal, state and local government tops the hiring statistics but government jobs do not grow the economy.
Private sector jobs have gone up 8.75 million since Jan 2009.
Government jobs have gone down 656,000


What do you think statistics in a democrat administration are going to say?
Do you really think career government workers give a shit who the president is? It's the same people doing the same job.

Staggering numbers on the statistical roles gave up looking for a job and the feds don't count them anymore?
The only people no longer counted are those who die, leave the country, join the military, go to jail, or enter an institution. There are 668,000 people who have "given up." Hardly staggering.
Most jobs that are touted in the federal statistics are burger flippers?
You have e evidence?

With all due respect, Pinqy...there is an old Aaron Levenstein quote about statistics that I think sums them up rather well..."Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." Take your statistic about government jobs going down. Government jobs have gone down since 2009 but that's not Federal Government jobs...that's government jobs including State and Local governments. Federal Government jobs have gone up...not down because the Federal Government continues to expand. State and local governments have shrunk because unlike the Feds who can merrily run huge deficits to pay all those new employees...the locals have to balance THEIR budgets by law (although they do their best to skirt those laws!). Quite a few of the government employees that have been getting laid off at the local and State level were employees that were hired back in 2009 with the Obama Stimulus...which was paid for by the Feds by running up a huge deficit.

As for whether or not government employees "give a shit" about who is in office? I believe that at the State level workers who vote Democratic outnumber those that vote Republican by a better than two to one ratio. At the Federal level it's not quite as high but there are still far more government employees that vote Democratic than vote Republican. Why? Because obviously the GOP isn't as in favor of increasing the size of government as the Democrats are so voting for a Republican could mean voting yourself out of a job. It's not rocket science to figure out how that might affect someone's vote.
Idiot...

BLS: Federal Employment

Jan/2009: 2,786,000
July/2015: 2,735,000

In what universe is 2,735,000 more than 2,786,000???
 
BAD ECONOMY:

(1) Less home ownership
(2) Jobs consist of low wage, part-time, and temporary employment
(3) Businesses are offering less company paid benefits
(4) The cost of living to real wage ratio
(5) Higher health care cost
(6) Higher rent, utilities, and food cost
(7) Student loan debt
(8) 50% of children living at or below the poverty line
(9) Approximately 47 million receiving food stamps
(10) An astronomical and rising national debt
(11) Savings accounts paying .25% interest
(12) Troubled pension funds
(13) Cities going bankrupt
(14) Malls closing
(15) Retail chains closing stores
(16) Consumer spending down
(17) Our rundown infrastructure
(18) Growing gap between the rich and the poor
(19) The decline of the Middle Class
(20) Millions receiving some form of government assistance
(21) College grads working at low wage jobs and living with parents
(22) The cost of higher education
(23) Our dependency on cheap foreign imports
(24) Businesses off-shore out-sourcing jobs and importing labor
(25) The influx of cheap illegal immigrant labor
(26) Lost home equity
(27) Government debt keeping the economy afloat
(28) Technology, automation, and innovation replacing workers
(29) Men, women, children, and families homeless
(30) Many working and still receiving some form of government assistance

Yep, we're doing great. Economically, we're booming, and things couldn't be better. We're experiencing economic growth and stability. America is working, and the wheels of commerce are turning full speed. We have an internal cash flow unmatched anywhere in the world. As a matter of fact, we're doing so great, that we're giving away multi-$Billions to foreign governments, engaging in senseless deadly costly wars, and providing care and support for millions of illegal immigrants. What more could we ask for?


What's funny is these sh*tstain progressives complain about many of the things on your list about how screwed up our economy is, usually on threads meant to attack capitalism in general. Yet when it comes to the Hussein and his record, suddenly they are trying to convince everyone what a wonderful job he is doing.
He would have done a lot better without 6 years of mindless Pub obstruction and shutdown threats...that Foxbots etc etc don't seem to know about...

Judging from the AWFUL legislation that the progressive wing of the Democratic Party gave us in the two years that they controlled the House, Senate and Oval Office, Franco...it's small wonder that the electorate introduced obstruction to the process when they voted out record numbers of Democrats. That didn't happen because progressives were doing wonderful things...that happened because they chose to take advantage of a financial crisis to pass a completely flawed and poorly named ACA...and a stimulus plan that rewarded Democratic supporters more than it stimulated a staggering economy.
BS. ACA is the best thing to happen to Americans ever, over time will continue improving and cutting costs, and the stimulus turned around Main St, dingbat. And then the GOP obstructed the recovery and threatenened shutdowns, costing the GDP 1%+ each time.

AND you think the Dems controlled congress for 2 years, HENCE, you too are a branwashed dunce. Less than 6 months- with Teddy able to vote and in session, THIRTEEN DAYS. IDIOT.
And I like how they tax people who opt out of the aca. Something like $200 a month every month you weren't covered. So if you aren't covered all year and you were gonna get $2400 back you get zero.
lmao, WTF?

Silly boo boo you are way misinformed
 
62.6% Labor participation Rate.

Worse Recovery Ever.

Just compare Obama's job performance to Reagan's:

View attachment 46799
Yes, we know baby boomers had not hit retirement age yet under Reagan.

Meanwhile, why have you abandoned your point on the averge unemployment rate during presidencies?

Oh ... wait ... never mind, this is why .....

Ronald Reagan ....... 8.0%
Barack Obama ........ 8.0%

:mm::mm::mm:



That baby boomer excuse has been thoroughly debunked. The LFPR has increased for older worker while plummeting for the young and prime age populations.

View attachment 46859

Civilian labor force participation rates by age sex race and ethnicity
It's cute how you think you've debunked fact. :thup:

Fact: Since Obama's been president, some 18,000,000 people have retired. That's 5 million more than the total increase of those not in the labor force during that same period and that's about a 40% increase from prior to 2008 when baby boomers began turning 62.

 
I've already proven that you are wrong with the LFPR rate change by age cohort. So, you lose.

View attachment 46913
You have only proven you understand nothing!
With each year more "Boomers" leave the workforce and fewer "Busters" take their place in the prime working age group.

http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2005/11/art3full.pdf

Between 1946 and 1964, the U.S. fertility rate increased substantially, and approximately 78 million people were born. This huge segment of the population, called the “baby boomers,” were between the ages of 40 and 58 years in 2004 and will be between the ages of 50 and 68 years in 2014.

Between 1965 and 1976, the number of births decreased once again. The population born during this time, called the “baby bust,” will constitute part of the prime-aged worker group 25 to 54 years of age from 2004 to 2014. The baby-bust population is much smaller than the baby-boom population, and this difference in their numbers will contribute to the decrease in the growth of the labor force during those years.

Yeah, abortion's working out real well for you, isn't it???? As long as we can keep enough people working, Social Security is sustainable. With a shrinking workforce, it's not!!!!
Number of Abortions in US Worldwide - Number of abortions since 1973
Thats why we need to make Mexicans working here tax paying Americans. What's wrong with beaners? Odaley hessay

Other than the ones who are robbing, raping and murdering American citizens...absolutely NOTHING! I have nothing but respect for the many Mexicans, El Salvadorans, Guatemalans and Brazilians that I've worked with over the years. That doesn't mean that I think they should be able to come and go as they please however! We have a serious problem with border security...a problem that liberals refuse to address because they want more Hispanic voters voting for them.
They wouldn't cross the border if there weren't jobs waiting for them. Isn't that hard for a detective to figure out where illegals work.

They work pretty much everywhere...that's the point. It's so easy to get a fake Green Card and Social Security number it's not even funny. That's a thriving cottage industry in the US.
 
And the only thing I've pointed out about GE is that they've done everything that the far left HATES...and their CEO was best pals with Barry. So all that "talk" that was coming from this administration about fighting against corporate greed has to be taken with a HUGE grain of salt considering Obama's relationship with Immelt.

Yep, democrats are no different than republicans. They payoff government for special favors. The only difference is the democratic base isn't smart enough to realize they are corrupt.

Yet the R-Derp's and the Franco's of this board are absolutely convinced that the only politicians in the pockets of big business are Republicans.
Make up your minds. Do the rich own and control our government or not?

You Republicans defend the very rich and powerful that own you.

Yes, the wealthy of the world wield immense power over government not only here but EVERYWHERE! Even in communist countries there was always an "elite" class of people who lived totally different from the masses. It was that way in Cuba...it was that way in the Soviet Union and China. So kindly explain how progressive policies address that? They pay it lip service, Sealy but when Barack Obama is hanging out with the people he's hanging out with this week in Martha's Vineyard do you NOT think that those people in large part "control" our government? I've got news for you...if you're palling around with the POTUS then you've got some huge clout!
But only the GOP here fights for secret campaign funding and no limits on lobbying campaign financing duh. People paying for getting destructive, greedy stuff, like screwing the workers, customers and the environment duh.

What the GOP "fought for" was the right for Americans to contribute to political causes they support without having to fear repercussions from employers or the government in power. You know like some zealot in the IRS deciding that because you're a conservative that they should leak your confidential taxpayer information to your political enemies? Sound familiar?
 
Yep, democrats are no different than republicans. They payoff government for special favors. The only difference is the democratic base isn't smart enough to realize they are corrupt.

Yet the R-Derp's and the Franco's of this board are absolutely convinced that the only politicians in the pockets of big business are Republicans.
Make up your minds. Do the rich own and control our government or not?

You Republicans defend the very rich and powerful that own you.

Yes, the wealthy of the world wield immense power over government not only here but EVERYWHERE! Even in communist countries there was always an "elite" class of people who lived totally different from the masses. It was that way in Cuba...it was that way in the Soviet Union and China. So kindly explain how progressive policies address that? They pay it lip service, Sealy but when Barack Obama is hanging out with the people he's hanging out with this week in Martha's Vineyard do you NOT think that those people in large part "control" our government? I've got news for you...if you're palling around with the POTUS then you've got some huge clout!
But only the GOP here fights for secret campaign funding and no limits on lobbying campaign financing duh. People paying for getting destructive, greedy stuff, like screwing the workers, customers and the environment duh.

What the GOP "fought for" was the right for Americans to contribute to political causes they support without having to fear repercussions from employers or the government in power. You know like some zealot in the IRS deciding that because you're a conservative that they should leak your confidential taxpayer information to your political enemies? Sound familiar?
Nixon? That's why they changed the rules so presidents have little power over the IRS. Sorry, duped AGAIN, hater dupe.
 
Correct: those are NET changes. I am giving GROSS inflows and outflows. Surely you don't think nobody at all left the labor force???


Look again at the flows: it all adds up.
yes, that's what I said, population increased 213,000
It was 250,663,000. 743,000 joined the population( some as in the labor force, some as not in the labor force) and 530,000 left (again some from in and some from not in labor force)
Total change +213,000
(And of course there were internal changes as well.

So why do you keep saying it's not 213k but really 213k?

Read the tables at Labor force status flows by sex current month


You are math challenged. I've shown you the stats - you are making up shit.
My math in no way conflicts with yours, and especially since we're getting the same answer I'm at a loss as to what you think is wrong. Especially since I gave you my BLS source. You can check my math


Then do the math - your link doesn't show the gross change that you say you are netting out.

The U.S. population of those 16 years and older does not increase 700K+ in a month. That is pure nonsense.
I didn't say it did. It went up 213k
743k entered, 530k left. Go to my link, the total for "other inflows" clearly says 743k (last column, 4th row)
Total for "other outflows" is 530k (next to last column, 5th row.

Other inflows are people Who were not employed, unemployed, or not in the labor force the previous month bu are now


And the footnote for that is:

(2) Includes persons just turning 16 and adjustments to estimated population totals.

Which proves my point that the whose who are younger age cohorts are not entering the workforce, hence they are significant components of the drop in the LFPR. It's NOT JUST BOOMERS.
Who is arguing that the drop in the labor force participation rate is due solely because of baby boomers??
 

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