58 straight months of jobs growth, ACA working great where allowed to, where is this bad economy?

[healthmyths]

MY whole point about hurricane stuff was to point out that IN SPITE of those gigantic life changing events, hurricanes, 9/11/dot.com bust,
recessions the economy GREW at a faster rate then today under Obama who has had NONE of those events!

IN spite of those economic,life loss events..
So how did those 4 gigantic events affect the Gross Domestic Product from 2000 to 2009?
Largest Gross Domestic Product in history!!
When Bush took office in 2001 GDP was $10,622,000,000,000
when Bush left office in 2008 GDP was $14,719,000,000,000
A 41.7% increase in GDP or $4.4 TRILLION.

Obama? With NO Major events like hurricanes,9/11,dot.com/etc.... GDP growth:17.87%!
Bush GDP increased 41.7% while all those events occurred .... Obama with NO events.... 17.87%!

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And here is why you remain a fucking retard .... "Obama? With NO Major events like hurricanes,9/11,dot.com/etc.... GDP growth:17.87%!"

Obama had to deal with Hurricane Bush, whose wake of destruction crated the economy, cost us tens of trillions of dollars, some 12 million jobs, more than all of the disasters combined.

Even worse for you, you're idiotically posting nominal figures and you're comparing 96 months under Bush againsst 78 months under Obama. In real numbers, GDP under Bush grew 1.9%; 1.8% under Obama.

And even with you posting nominal figures, your math is wrong. Nominally, GDP increased 38.9% under Bush and 22.6% under Obama. Who knows how you came up with 41.7% and 17.9%?

http://www.bea.gov/national/xls/gdplev.xls

you continue to embarrass yourself. when you say "hurricane bush" you ought to be adult enough, at a very minimum; be able to show folks what of the so-called destructive policies of Bush that your own jackass party actually opposed, instead of VOTING FOR REPEATEDLY, and continuing the vast majority of them long after Bush was gone

Anyone with a brain, which excludes you, knows I'm talking about the Great Recession Bush handed Obama. And while Bush alone was not the cause, he had help from his Republican Congress, the hurricane is named after him since he was leading the country.

Still waiting for an answer .... how many times did you vote for Bush?

I VOTED TWICE for Bush.
AGAIN NONE of you seem to recognize that 4 major events occurred that have never occurred during any other president's terms.
More importantly this crap about housing bubble???
AGAIN FACTS FACTS FACTS!!!

Obama...
1) 1995 ACORN/with Obama sued CitiBank forcing them to make loans to people THAT would default on their properties!
1995 ACORN/with Obama as one of the attorneys sued CitiBank forcing them to make loans to people THAT would default on their properties!
Citibank settled out of court but this laid the premise for banks to make sub-prime loans.
So now the banks had a problem.
Forced to make sub-prime loans to people that they were pretty sure not going to pay off the loans they had to do something because the FDIC auditors said all those loans were affecting the banks financial status.

On one hand courts ordering bad loans and other hand loans were violating FDIC rules!
2) Banks were forced by FDIC to SELL these TOXIC loans to Fannie/Freddie.. and because in their own words

Oct. 23,2008 (Bloomberg) --
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have an ``effective'' federal guarantee, not the
"full faith and credit'' of the U.S. government, Federal Housing Finance Agency Director James Lockhart said after the hearing. That does give them effectively a guarantee of the U.S. government.''
Lockhart s Fannie Freddie Guarantee Remarks Stir Up Confusion - Bloomberg

GWB's administration was LAUGHED AT BY Democrats Frank and Dodd after 17 times trying to get Fannie/Freddie fixed!
"Over the past six years, the President and his Administration have not only warned of the systemic consequences of failure to reform GSEs but also put forward thoughtful plans to reduce the risk that either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac would encounter such difficulties.
President Bush publicly called for GSE reform at least 17 times in 2008 alone before Congress acted.

Unfortunately, these warnings went unheeded, as the President's repeated attempts to reform the supervision of these entities were thwarted by the legislative maneuvering of those who emphatically denied there were problems.
Setting the Record Straight The Three Most Egregious Claims In The New York Times Article On The Housing Crisis

Many prominent Democrats, including House Finance Chairman Barney Frank, opposed any legislation correcting the risks posed by GSEs.
* House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-MA) criticized
the President's warning saying:
"these two entities - Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - are not facing any kind of financial crisis .
The more people exaggerate these problems,
the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."...
(Stephen Labaton, "New Agency Proposed To Oversee Freddie Mac And Fannie Mae," New York Times, 9/11/03)

* Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Chairman Christopher Dodd also ignored the President's warnings and
called on him to "immediately reconsider his ill-advised" position. Eric Dash, "Fannie Mae's Offer To Help Ease Credit Squeeze
Is Rejected, As Critics Complain Of Opportunism," New York Times, 8/11/07)

Barney Frank s Fannie and Freddie Muddle - US News


3) AND YOU HAVE NO idea of what happened on 9/18/2008...

The near economic collapse on Thursday (Sept 18,2008), at 11am the Federal Reserve noticed a tremendous draw-down of money market accounts in the U.S., to the tune of $550 billion was being drawn out in the matter of an hour or two. The Treasury opened up its window to help and pumped a $105 billion in the system and quickly realized that they could not stem the tide. We were having an electronic run on the banks. They decided to close the operation, close down the money accounts and announce a guarantee of $250,000 per account so there wouldn’t be further panic out there. If they had not done that, their estimation is that by 2pm that afternoon, $5.5 trillion would have been drawn out of the money market system of the U.S., would have collapsed the entire economy of the U.S., and within 24 hours the world economy would have collapsed.
It would have been the end of our economic system and our political system as we know it.

Zero Hedge How The World Almost Came To An End At 2PM On September 18


Now as far as TARP...

Of the $245 billion invested in U.S. banks, over $169 billion has been paid back, including $13.7 billion in dividends, interest and other income, along with $4 billion in warrant proceeds as of April 2010[update]. AIG is considered "on track" to pay back $51 billion from divestitures of two units and another $32 billion in securities.[4]

Now.. WHAT HAPPENED to TARP the program that Bush has been blamed for?
Bailout Scorecard Eye on the Bailout ProPublica
$615 billion went out
$672 Billion came in...

ALL PAID BACK...
PLUS A PROFIT of: $57.7 billion...

I can't believe there are still idiots blaming Barney Frank for the real estate bubble collapse. He was one member of the minority party and you think he brought the whole system down. Republicans controlled the house. Republicans controlled the Senate. Republicans controlled the executive branch. Republicans get the blame, not a member of the minority party. I can't believe you're still in blaine barney frank for the real estate bubble collapse. I'm not saying Barney Frank was right. He wasn't. But he was just one member of the minor party and you think he brought a whole system down.

Barney was to blame. Dodd was to blame. Obama was to blame! The entire group of people possibly some GOPers who thought it ok
to have people who had poor credit to buy multiple houses with no money down and "flip them" those people caused the bubble.
Barney told Bush people and I quote:

House Finance Chairman Barney Frank, opposed any legislation correcting the risks posed by GSEs.
* House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-MA) criticized
the President's warning saying "these two entities - Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - are not facing any kind of financial crisis .
The more people exaggerate these problems,
the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."...
(Stephen Labaton, "New Agency Proposed To Oversee Freddie Mac And Fannie Mae," New York Times, 9/11/03)

Dodd said:
* Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Chairman Christopher Dodd also ignored the President's warnings and
called on him to "immediately reconsider his ill-advised" position. Eric Dash, "Fannie Mae's Offer To Help Ease Credit Squeeze
Is Rejected, As Critics Complain Of Opportunism," New York Times, 8/11/07)

What more proof do you need then to have these two plus countless thousands of Democrats wanting to give
FREE loans to people that couldn't pay the mortgages?

PLUS remember idiot... what had been the top of the mind concentration of GWB et.al.
THESE EVENTS: dummy!
Recession
1) Are you aware that a recession started under Clinton and became official 3/01 ended 11/01?
Because you don't seem to comprehend... RECESSIONS are like football length tankers... it takes miles to turn one...i.e. so does
a "RECESSION"... it doesn't just start the day NBER states... it is a slow degradation and it started under CLINTON!!!

Source: USATODAY.com - It s official 2001 recession only lasted eight months

A Major $5 trillion market loss
2) Are you aware that the dot.com bust occurred and cost $5 trillion in losses?
Again Clinton laid claim BUT someone had to pay and it occurred during Bush's first year! $5 trillion in market losses MEAN lost tax revenue
PLUS JOBS!!!!
According to the Los Angeles Times, when the dot-com bubble burst, it wiped out $5 trillion dollars in market value for tech companies. More than half of the Internet companies created since 1995 were gone by 2004 - and hundreds of thousands of skilled technology workers were out of jobs.
Source: The dot-com bubble How to lose 5 trillion Anderson Cooper 360 - CNN.com Blogs

The worst attacks on the USA in History.. 3,000 deaths!!!
3)Obviously most of you are UNAWARE 9/11 cost 3,000 lives, $2 trillion in lost businesses,market values assets. Jobs lost in New York owing to the attacks: 146,100 JUST in New York.
Are you aware this happened???
Year 2001: September 11 Terrorist Attacks
The 9/11 terrorist attacks were the events that helped shape other financial events of the decade. After that terrible day in September 2001, our economic climate was never to be the same again. It was only the third time in history that the New York Stock Exchange was shut down for a period of time. In this case, it was closed from September 10 - 17. Besides the tragic human loss of that day, the economic loss cannot even be estimated. Some estimate that there was over $60 billion in insurance losses alone. Airlines didn't fly for 3 days!
Approximately 18,000 small businesses were either displaced or destroyed in Lower Manhattan after the Twin Towers fell. There was a buildup in homeland security on all levels. 9/11 caused a catastrophic financial loss for the U.S.
Source: The Top 10 Financial Events of the Decade
Anthrax Attacks...
The 2001 anthrax attacks in the United States, also known as Amerithrax from its Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) case name, occurred over the course of several weeks beginning on Tuesday, September 18, 2001, one week after the September 11 attacks. Letters containing anthrax spores were mailed to several news media offices and two DemocraticU.S. Senators, killing five people and infecting 17 others.

4) $1 trillion in losses due to the WORST Hurricane SEASONS in history.
The worst, Katrina made landfall in Louisiana as a Category 3 in 2005. It took 1,836 lives and caused $81.2 billion in damages. It quickly became the biggest natural disaster in U.S. history, almost destroying New Orleans due to severe flooding.

Rank Disaster Year Deaths Damage* $250 Billion in damages in the 8 disasters of the top 15 disasters in history!
1. Hurricane Katrina (LA/MS/AL/FL) 2005 1833 $133,800,000,000
6. Hurricane Ike (TX/LA/MS) 2008 112 $27,000,000,000
7. Hurricane Wilma (FL) 2005 35 $17,100,000,000
8. Hurricane Rita (TX/LA) 2005 119 $17,100,000,000
9. Hurricane Charley (FL) 2004 35 $16,500,000,000
12. Midwest Floods 2008 24 $15,000,000,000
13. Hurricane Ivan (FL/AL) 2004 57 $13,000,000,000
14. 30-State Drought 2002 0 $11,400,000,000
Costliest U.S. Weather Disasters Weather Underground

Finally who controlled congress from 2006 to 2008???
DEMOCRATS!!!
Party In Power - Congress and Presidency - A Visual Guide To The Balance of Power In Congress 1945-2008

 

[Faun]

still no answer from wettinghisbedowin. Guess he's too embarrassed to admit how many times he voted for Bush.

i voted for bush twice..

now dont you look stupid? i mean to much of a pussy coward to answer simple questions
i answered yours

now answer mine. regardless of your idiotic and PATHETIC excuses, tell me what "Bush/Republican" policies you blame for the economy tanking that your own Democrat Party didnt vote REPEADEDLY FOR, regardless of minority or majority status in congress

and CONTINUE LONG AFTER BUSH WAS GONE??


waiting.................

I already answered you ... the ones Bush credited for the real-estate boom.

you mean you are actually saying democrats voted AGAINST those policies?

really??

I said nothing about how Democrats voted and you don't even know how they voted. What I said is you don't understand English...

"Thanks to our policies, home ownership in America is at an all-time high." - Hurricane Bush to a crowd of Republicans.

 

[bedowin62]

still no answer from wettinghisbedowin. Guess he's too embarrassed to admit how many times he voted for Bush.

i voted for bush twice..

now dont you look stupid? i mean to much of a pussy coward to answer simple questions
i answered yours

now answer mine. regardless of your idiotic and PATHETIC excuses, tell me what "Bush/Republican" policies you blame for the economy tanking that your own Democrat Party didnt vote REPEADEDLY FOR, regardless of minority or majority status in congress

and CONTINUE LONG AFTER BUSH WAS GONE??


waiting.................

I already answered you ... the ones Bush credited for the real-estate boom.

you mean you are actually saying democrats voted AGAINST those policies?

really??

I said nothing about how Democrats voted and you don't even know how they voted. What I said is you don't understand English...

"Thanks to our policies, home ownership in America is at an all-time high." - Hurricane Bush to a crowd of Republicans.

YAWN; but I DID say it; and yiou chose to repeatedly argue with me about it, instead of just admitting i was right. if you dont like the point or didnt think it relevant then fine, but you went on and on trying to dance around it. my point about this thread, and specifically YOUR POSTS, was that blaming others for tanking the economy when you cant even show where your own side opposed the vey policies you're blaming others for, makes you look stupid.

 

[Faun]

still no answer from wettinghisbedowin. Guess he's too embarrassed to admit how many times he voted for Bush.

i voted for bush twice..

now dont you look stupid? i mean to much of a pussy coward to answer simple questions
i answered yours

now answer mine. regardless of your idiotic and PATHETIC excuses, tell me what "Bush/Republican" policies you blame for the economy tanking that your own Democrat Party didnt vote REPEADEDLY FOR, regardless of minority or majority status in congress

and CONTINUE LONG AFTER BUSH WAS GONE??


waiting.................

I already answered you ... the ones Bush credited for the real-estate boom.

you mean you are actually saying democrats voted AGAINST those policies?

really??

I said nothing about how Democrats voted and you don't even know how they voted. What I said is you don't understand English...

"Thanks to our policies, home ownership in America is at an all-time high." - Hurricane Bush to a crowd of Republicans.

YAWN; but I DID say it; and yiou chose to repeatedly argue with me about it, instead of just admitting i was right. if you dont like the point or didnt think it relevant then fine, but you went on and on trying to dance around it. my point about this thread, and specifically YOUR POSTS, was that blaming others for tanking the economy when you cant even show where your own side opposed the vey policies you're blaming others for, makes you look stupid.

Nice. Now you're arguing "facts" you can't prove. You claim Democrats supported those Republican policies yet you offer no proof.

And then there's also a string of bills, all of which died in the Republican-led Senate, to reform oversight of the GSE's, which could have averted the meltdown.

But still, I'm enjoying watching you idiots try to blame Democrats for policies Republicans took credit for before those same policies led to the worst financial meltdown since Republicans gave us the Great Depression.

Great record you rightwing nuts have there.

 

[healthmyths]

i voted for bush twice..

now dont you look stupid? i mean to much of a pussy coward to answer simple questions
i answered yours

now answer mine. regardless of your idiotic and PATHETIC excuses, tell me what "Bush/Republican" policies you blame for the economy tanking that your own Democrat Party didnt vote REPEADEDLY FOR, regardless of minority or majority status in congress

and CONTINUE LONG AFTER BUSH WAS GONE??


waiting.................

I already answered you ... the ones Bush credited for the real-estate boom.

you mean you are actually saying democrats voted AGAINST those policies?

really??

I said nothing about how Democrats voted and you don't even know how they voted. What I said is you don't understand English...

"Thanks to our policies, home ownership in America is at an all-time high." - Hurricane Bush to a crowd of Republicans.

YAWN; but I DID say it; and yiou chose to repeatedly argue with me about it, instead of just admitting i was right. if you dont like the point or didnt think it relevant then fine, but you went on and on trying to dance around it. my point about this thread, and specifically YOUR POSTS, was that blaming others for tanking the economy when you cant even show where your own side opposed the vey policies you're blaming others for, makes you look stupid.

Nice. Now you're arguing "facts" you can't prove. You claim Democrats supported those Republican policies yet you offer no proof.

And then there's also a string of bills, all of which died in the Republican-led Senate, to reform oversight of the GSE's, which could have averted the meltdown.

But still, I'm enjoying watching you idiots try to blame Democrats for policies Republicans took credit for before those same policies led to the worst financial meltdown since Republicans gave us the Great Depression.

Great record you rightwing nuts have there.

FACTS AGAIN FACTS...
Don't you idiots know that there is a thing called the "Internet"???
The Internet provides FACTS that you people making "suppositions" "guesses" "hysterical" fictional statements seem to contradict!
HERE ARE THE FACTS!!!

In 2003, the Bush Administration sought to create a new agency, replacing the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight, to oversee Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
In 1992 in the wake of the Savings and Loan crisis, and over concern similar lending problems would develop, the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight was created as part of the Department of Housing and Urban Development.[16] While Senate and House leaders voiced their intention to bring about the needed legislation, no reform bills materialized.

A Senate reform bill introduced by Senator Jon Corzine (D-NJ) (S.1656) never made it out of the 21-member (10D/11R) Senate Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs Committee.[17] At the time members of the 108th congress expressed faith in the solvency of Fannie and Freddie.
Congressman Barney Frank (D-MA), for example, described them as "not facing any kind of financial crisis." [18]

Both Fannie and Freddie had positive net worth as of the date of the takeover, meaning the value of their assets exceeded their liabilities.
However, Fannie's total assets to capital (leverage ratio) was about 20:1, while Freddie's was about 70:1.[53][54]
These numbers increase significantly if one includes all the mortgage-backed assets they guaranteed.
These ratios are considerably higher than investment banks, which leverage around 30:1.[55][56

The George W. Bush administration was prevented from taking official action due to Senate Bill 190 of the 109 Congress never being allowed a full Senate vote, even though it was passed out of committee on a 13-9 vote along party lines
(13 Republicans voted "Yes" and 9 Democrats voted "No"),[59]
doing so would have prevented Congress' home ownership goals being realized.
Federal takeover of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[francoHFW]

We're talking about hurricanes that hit the U.S., ya moron. 2003 had 1 major hurricane and 2006 had 1 minor hurricane. You know, years you described as the "worst hurricane seasons." You don't have a clue to what you're talking about and you're just making shit up because you like the way it sounds.

Meanwhile, you're ignoring Hurricane Bush, whose damages dwarfs that of all the hurricanes during his terms combined.

OH jeez talk about HYPERBOLE making things UP!
Tell that to the people from 2001 to 2008 that suffered through hurricanes... WORST HURRICANE SEASONS!!!
AND IDIOTS blaming Bush for what???
HeRE IS WHAT HAPPENED that idiots like you conveniently forget about happening during GWB's terms:
THESE are the FACTS... REALITY NOT phony baloney stupid claims like you make:
How about these events...was there ANY AFFECT on the economy?
Recession
1) Are you aware that a recession started under Clinton and became official 3/01 ended 11/01?
Because you don't seem to comprehend... RECESSIONS are like football length tankers... it takes miles to turn one...i.e. so does
a "RECESSION"... it doesn't just start the day NBER states... it is a slow degradation and it started under CLINTON!!!

Source: USATODAY.com - It s official 2001 recession only lasted eight months

A Major $5 trillion market loss
2) Are you aware that the dot.com bust occurred and cost $5 trillion in losses?
Again Clinton laid claim BUT someone had to pay and it occurred during Bush's first year! $5 trillion in market losses MEAN lost tax revenue
PLUS JOBS!!!!
According to the Los Angeles Times, when the dot-com bubble burst, it wiped out $5 trillion dollars in market value for tech companies. More than half of the Internet companies created since 1995 were gone by 2004 - and hundreds of thousands of skilled technology workers were out of jobs.
Source: The dot-com bubble How to lose 5 trillion Anderson Cooper 360 - CNN.com Blogs

The worst attacks on the USA in History.. 3,000 deaths!!!
3)Obviously most of you are UNAWARE 9/11 cost 3,000 lives, $2 trillion in lost businesses,market values assets. Jobs lost in New York owing to the attacks: 146,100 JUST in New York.
Are you aware this happened???
Year 2001: September 11 Terrorist Attacks
The 9/11 terrorist attacks were the events that helped shape other financial events of the decade. After that terrible day in September 2001, our economic climate was never to be the same again. It was only the third time in history that the New York Stock Exchange was shut down for a period of time. In this case, it was closed from September 10 - 17. Besides the tragic human loss of that day, the economic loss cannot even be estimated. Some estimate that there was over $60 billion in insurance losses alone. Airlines didn't fly for 3 days!
Approximately 18,000 small businesses were either displaced or destroyed in Lower Manhattan after the Twin Towers fell. There was a buildup in homeland security on all levels. 9/11 caused a catastrophic financial loss for the U.S.
Source: The Top 10 Financial Events of the Decade
Anthrax Attacks...
The 2001 anthrax attacks in the United States, also known as Amerithrax from its Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) case name, occurred over the course of several weeks beginning on Tuesday, September 18, 2001, one week after the September 11 attacks. Letters containing anthrax spores were mailed to several news media offices and two DemocraticU.S. Senators, killing five people and infecting 17 others.

4) $1 trillion in losses due to the WORST Hurricane SEASONS in history.
The worst, Katrina made landfall in Louisiana as a Category 3 in 2005. It took 1,836 lives and caused $81.2 billion in damages. It quickly became the biggest natural disaster in U.S. history, almost destroying New Orleans due to severe flooding.

Rank Disaster Year Deaths Damage* $250 Billion in damages in the 8 disasters of the top 15 disasters in history!
1. Hurricane Katrina (LA/MS/AL/FL) 2005 1833 $133,800,000,000
6. Hurricane Ike (TX/LA/MS) 2008 112 $27,000,000,000
7. Hurricane Wilma (FL) 2005 35 $17,100,000,000
8. Hurricane Rita (TX/LA) 2005 119 $17,100,000,000
9. Hurricane Charley (FL) 2004 35 $16,500,000,000
12. Midwest Floods 2008 24 $15,000,000,000
13. Hurricane Ivan (FL/AL) 2004 57 $13,000,000,000
14. 30-State Drought 2002 0 $11,400,000,000
Costliest U.S. Weather Disasters Weather Underground

THESE events OCCURRED!
YET in SPITE of :
a) 400,000 jobs lost due to Hurricanes Katrina/Rita ,
b) 2,800,000 jobs lost in alone due to 9/11,
c) 300,000 jobs lost due to dot.com busts...
In spite of nearly $8 trillion in lost businesses, market values, destroyed property.. IN SPITE of that:

AFTER the tax cuts Federal Tax REVENUES Increased an average of 9.78% per year!!!
Government Revenue Details Federal State Local for 2008 - Charts

2000 $236.2 billion surplus
2001 $128.2 billion surplus
2002 $157.8 billion deficit.. also 9/11 occurred and tax revenues lowered for years later
2003 $377.6 billion deficit.. BRAND new cabinet Homeland Security, plus loans made to businesses.. again tax revenues down..affect of 9/11
2004 $412.7 billion deficit.. Revenues up by 5.5% spending increased and economy getting back.
2005 $318.3 billion deficit.. revenues up by 14.5% deficit decreasing at rate of 22%
2006 $248.2 billion deficit.. revenues up by 11.7% deficit decrease 22%
2007 $160.7 billion deficit.. revenues up by 6.7% deficit decrease 35%
2008 $458.6 billion deficit.. revenues down and deficit INCREASED TARP loan mostly...
Historical Federal Receipt and Outlay Summary

Largest Gross Domestic Product in history!!
When Bush took office in 2001 GDP was $12.355,271,000,000
when Bush left office in 2008 GDP was $14,359,490,000,000
A 16% increase in GDP or $2 TRILLION.
So how did those 4 gigantic events affect the Gross Domestic Product from 2000 to 2009?

So starting in 2001 132,548,000 people were working.
At the end of 2008 138,056,000 people working..

IN spite of recession, dot.com bust, 9/11, worst hurricanes.... MORE people were working... more tax revenue was collected. GDP grew!

But IDIOTS like you FFOs and LIPs ..............
WHY is it so hard for idiots like you to RECOGNIZE that these EVENTS cost jobs?

Moron, I went through some of those. Again, you listed a bunch of tropical storms and hurricanes that didn't even touch the U.S. You then call those, the "worst hurricane seasons." You're a moron and you prove it all the time.

um no YOU'RE the moron. you and every other idiot trying to brag bout the "success" of an economy under obama that has seen the very richest and basically ONLY the very richest get richer, and the poorest get poorer, both at A FASTER PACE under obama then was happening under bush and Republican

the hurricane stuff, and every thing else is a disraction by left-wing idiots

As you've been shown, the poor got righer under Obama. Something that didn't happen under any other president going back at least to Reagan.

And a reason you're a moron is because you still can't grasp this even though you've been shown this before. You don't learn.

the reason you're an idiot is you lie to your self. the richest got richer under obama, the poorest got poorer

thanks for playing though

DUH. Because of the Bush World Depression and the continuation of Reaganist tax rates and policies that have caused this for 30 years. See sig and all non dupe/Foxbot info. BS like Obama had total control for 2 years and wrecked blah blah...Total bs, MORON.

 

[bedowin62]

OH jeez talk about HYPERBOLE making things UP!
Tell that to the people from 2001 to 2008 that suffered through hurricanes... WORST HURRICANE SEASONS!!!
AND IDIOTS blaming Bush for what???
HeRE IS WHAT HAPPENED that idiots like you conveniently forget about happening during GWB's terms:
THESE are the FACTS... REALITY NOT phony baloney stupid claims like you make:
How about these events...was there ANY AFFECT on the economy?
Recession
1) Are you aware that a recession started under Clinton and became official 3/01 ended 11/01?
Because you don't seem to comprehend... RECESSIONS are like football length tankers... it takes miles to turn one...i.e. so does
a "RECESSION"... it doesn't just start the day NBER states... it is a slow degradation and it started under CLINTON!!!

Source: USATODAY.com - It s official 2001 recession only lasted eight months

A Major $5 trillion market loss
2) Are you aware that the dot.com bust occurred and cost $5 trillion in losses?
Again Clinton laid claim BUT someone had to pay and it occurred during Bush's first year! $5 trillion in market losses MEAN lost tax revenue
PLUS JOBS!!!!
According to the Los Angeles Times, when the dot-com bubble burst, it wiped out $5 trillion dollars in market value for tech companies. More than half of the Internet companies created since 1995 were gone by 2004 - and hundreds of thousands of skilled technology workers were out of jobs.
Source: The dot-com bubble How to lose 5 trillion Anderson Cooper 360 - CNN.com Blogs

The worst attacks on the USA in History.. 3,000 deaths!!!
3)Obviously most of you are UNAWARE 9/11 cost 3,000 lives, $2 trillion in lost businesses,market values assets. Jobs lost in New York owing to the attacks: 146,100 JUST in New York.
Are you aware this happened???
Year 2001: September 11 Terrorist Attacks
The 9/11 terrorist attacks were the events that helped shape other financial events of the decade. After that terrible day in September 2001, our economic climate was never to be the same again. It was only the third time in history that the New York Stock Exchange was shut down for a period of time. In this case, it was closed from September 10 - 17. Besides the tragic human loss of that day, the economic loss cannot even be estimated. Some estimate that there was over $60 billion in insurance losses alone. Airlines didn't fly for 3 days!
Approximately 18,000 small businesses were either displaced or destroyed in Lower Manhattan after the Twin Towers fell. There was a buildup in homeland security on all levels. 9/11 caused a catastrophic financial loss for the U.S.
Source: The Top 10 Financial Events of the Decade
Anthrax Attacks...
The 2001 anthrax attacks in the United States, also known as Amerithrax from its Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) case name, occurred over the course of several weeks beginning on Tuesday, September 18, 2001, one week after the September 11 attacks. Letters containing anthrax spores were mailed to several news media offices and two DemocraticU.S. Senators, killing five people and infecting 17 others.

4) $1 trillion in losses due to the WORST Hurricane SEASONS in history.
The worst, Katrina made landfall in Louisiana as a Category 3 in 2005. It took 1,836 lives and caused $81.2 billion in damages. It quickly became the biggest natural disaster in U.S. history, almost destroying New Orleans due to severe flooding.

Rank Disaster Year Deaths Damage* $250 Billion in damages in the 8 disasters of the top 15 disasters in history!
1. Hurricane Katrina (LA/MS/AL/FL) 2005 1833 $133,800,000,000
6. Hurricane Ike (TX/LA/MS) 2008 112 $27,000,000,000
7. Hurricane Wilma (FL) 2005 35 $17,100,000,000
8. Hurricane Rita (TX/LA) 2005 119 $17,100,000,000
9. Hurricane Charley (FL) 2004 35 $16,500,000,000
12. Midwest Floods 2008 24 $15,000,000,000
13. Hurricane Ivan (FL/AL) 2004 57 $13,000,000,000
14. 30-State Drought 2002 0 $11,400,000,000
Costliest U.S. Weather Disasters Weather Underground

THESE events OCCURRED!
YET in SPITE of :
a) 400,000 jobs lost due to Hurricanes Katrina/Rita ,
b) 2,800,000 jobs lost in alone due to 9/11,
c) 300,000 jobs lost due to dot.com busts...
In spite of nearly $8 trillion in lost businesses, market values, destroyed property.. IN SPITE of that:

AFTER the tax cuts Federal Tax REVENUES Increased an average of 9.78% per year!!!
Government Revenue Details Federal State Local for 2008 - Charts

2000 $236.2 billion surplus
2001 $128.2 billion surplus
2002 $157.8 billion deficit.. also 9/11 occurred and tax revenues lowered for years later
2003 $377.6 billion deficit.. BRAND new cabinet Homeland Security, plus loans made to businesses.. again tax revenues down..affect of 9/11
2004 $412.7 billion deficit.. Revenues up by 5.5% spending increased and economy getting back.
2005 $318.3 billion deficit.. revenues up by 14.5% deficit decreasing at rate of 22%
2006 $248.2 billion deficit.. revenues up by 11.7% deficit decrease 22%
2007 $160.7 billion deficit.. revenues up by 6.7% deficit decrease 35%
2008 $458.6 billion deficit.. revenues down and deficit INCREASED TARP loan mostly...
Historical Federal Receipt and Outlay Summary

Largest Gross Domestic Product in history!!
When Bush took office in 2001 GDP was $12.355,271,000,000
when Bush left office in 2008 GDP was $14,359,490,000,000
A 16% increase in GDP or $2 TRILLION.
So how did those 4 gigantic events affect the Gross Domestic Product from 2000 to 2009?

So starting in 2001 132,548,000 people were working.
At the end of 2008 138,056,000 people working..

IN spite of recession, dot.com bust, 9/11, worst hurricanes.... MORE people were working... more tax revenue was collected. GDP grew!

But IDIOTS like you FFOs and LIPs ..............
WHY is it so hard for idiots like you to RECOGNIZE that these EVENTS cost jobs?

Moron, I went through some of those. Again, you listed a bunch of tropical storms and hurricanes that didn't even touch the U.S. You then call those, the "worst hurricane seasons." You're a moron and you prove it all the time.

um no YOU'RE the moron. you and every other idiot trying to brag bout the "success" of an economy under obama that has seen the very richest and basically ONLY the very richest get richer, and the poorest get poorer, both at A FASTER PACE under obama then was happening under bush and Republican

the hurricane stuff, and every thing else is a disraction by left-wing idiots

As you've been shown, the poor got righer under Obama. Something that didn't happen under any other president going back at least to Reagan.

And a reason you're a moron is because you still can't grasp this even though you've been shown this before. You don't learn.

the reason you're an idiot is you lie to your self. the richest got richer under obama, the poorest got poorer

thanks for playing though

DUH. Because of the Bush World Depression and the continuation of Reaganist tax rates and policies that have caused this for 30 years. See sig and all non dupe/Foxbot info. BS like Obama had total control for 2 years and wrecked blah blah...Total bs, MORON.

YAWN

THE MORE you post; the more everybody gets to see what an idiot you are.

 

[francoHFW]

BTW, Health Myth is nuts, keeps putting up the same threads with the same discredited BS for years. A great example of how FLORIDA is nuts lol...must be the heat.

 

[francoHFW]

Moron, I went through some of those. Again, you listed a bunch of tropical storms and hurricanes that didn't even touch the U.S. You then call those, the "worst hurricane seasons." You're a moron and you prove it all the time.

um no YOU'RE the moron. you and every other idiot trying to brag bout the "success" of an economy under obama that has seen the very richest and basically ONLY the very richest get richer, and the poorest get poorer, both at A FASTER PACE under obama then was happening under bush and Republican

the hurricane stuff, and every thing else is a disraction by left-wing idiots

As you've been shown, the poor got righer under Obama. Something that didn't happen under any other president going back at least to Reagan.

And a reason you're a moron is because you still can't grasp this even though you've been shown this before. You don't learn.

the reason you're an idiot is you lie to your self. the richest got richer under obama, the poorest got poorer

thanks for playing though

DUH. Because of the Bush World Depression and the continuation of Reaganist tax rates and policies that have caused this for 30 years. See sig and all non dupe/Foxbot info. BS like Obama had total control for 2 years and wrecked blah blah...Total bs, MORON.

YAWN

THE MORE you post; the more everybody gets to see what an idiot you are.

Jeez, wonder what happened in 1984, MORON. lol

 

[bedowin62]

OH jeez talk about HYPERBOLE making things UP!
Tell that to the people from 2001 to 2008 that suffered through hurricanes... WORST HURRICANE SEASONS!!!
AND IDIOTS blaming Bush for what???
HeRE IS WHAT HAPPENED that idiots like you conveniently forget about happening during GWB's terms:
THESE are the FACTS... REALITY NOT phony baloney stupid claims like you make:
How about these events...was there ANY AFFECT on the economy?
Recession
1) Are you aware that a recession started under Clinton and became official 3/01 ended 11/01?
Because you don't seem to comprehend... RECESSIONS are like football length tankers... it takes miles to turn one...i.e. so does
a "RECESSION"... it doesn't just start the day NBER states... it is a slow degradation and it started under CLINTON!!!

Source: USATODAY.com - It s official 2001 recession only lasted eight months

A Major $5 trillion market loss
2) Are you aware that the dot.com bust occurred and cost $5 trillion in losses?
Again Clinton laid claim BUT someone had to pay and it occurred during Bush's first year! $5 trillion in market losses MEAN lost tax revenue
PLUS JOBS!!!!
According to the Los Angeles Times, when the dot-com bubble burst, it wiped out $5 trillion dollars in market value for tech companies. More than half of the Internet companies created since 1995 were gone by 2004 - and hundreds of thousands of skilled technology workers were out of jobs.
Source: The dot-com bubble How to lose 5 trillion Anderson Cooper 360 - CNN.com Blogs

The worst attacks on the USA in History.. 3,000 deaths!!!
3)Obviously most of you are UNAWARE 9/11 cost 3,000 lives, $2 trillion in lost businesses,market values assets. Jobs lost in New York owing to the attacks: 146,100 JUST in New York.
Are you aware this happened???
Year 2001: September 11 Terrorist Attacks
The 9/11 terrorist attacks were the events that helped shape other financial events of the decade. After that terrible day in September 2001, our economic climate was never to be the same again. It was only the third time in history that the New York Stock Exchange was shut down for a period of time. In this case, it was closed from September 10 - 17. Besides the tragic human loss of that day, the economic loss cannot even be estimated. Some estimate that there was over $60 billion in insurance losses alone. Airlines didn't fly for 3 days!
Approximately 18,000 small businesses were either displaced or destroyed in Lower Manhattan after the Twin Towers fell. There was a buildup in homeland security on all levels. 9/11 caused a catastrophic financial loss for the U.S.
Source: The Top 10 Financial Events of the Decade
Anthrax Attacks...
The 2001 anthrax attacks in the United States, also known as Amerithrax from its Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) case name, occurred over the course of several weeks beginning on Tuesday, September 18, 2001, one week after the September 11 attacks. Letters containing anthrax spores were mailed to several news media offices and two DemocraticU.S. Senators, killing five people and infecting 17 others.

4) $1 trillion in losses due to the WORST Hurricane SEASONS in history.
The worst, Katrina made landfall in Louisiana as a Category 3 in 2005. It took 1,836 lives and caused $81.2 billion in damages. It quickly became the biggest natural disaster in U.S. history, almost destroying New Orleans due to severe flooding.

Rank Disaster Year Deaths Damage* $250 Billion in damages in the 8 disasters of the top 15 disasters in history!
1. Hurricane Katrina (LA/MS/AL/FL) 2005 1833 $133,800,000,000
6. Hurricane Ike (TX/LA/MS) 2008 112 $27,000,000,000
7. Hurricane Wilma (FL) 2005 35 $17,100,000,000
8. Hurricane Rita (TX/LA) 2005 119 $17,100,000,000
9. Hurricane Charley (FL) 2004 35 $16,500,000,000
12. Midwest Floods 2008 24 $15,000,000,000
13. Hurricane Ivan (FL/AL) 2004 57 $13,000,000,000
14. 30-State Drought 2002 0 $11,400,000,000
Costliest U.S. Weather Disasters Weather Underground

THESE events OCCURRED!
YET in SPITE of :
a) 400,000 jobs lost due to Hurricanes Katrina/Rita ,
b) 2,800,000 jobs lost in alone due to 9/11,
c) 300,000 jobs lost due to dot.com busts...
In spite of nearly $8 trillion in lost businesses, market values, destroyed property.. IN SPITE of that:

AFTER the tax cuts Federal Tax REVENUES Increased an average of 9.78% per year!!!
Government Revenue Details Federal State Local for 2008 - Charts

2000 $236.2 billion surplus
2001 $128.2 billion surplus
2002 $157.8 billion deficit.. also 9/11 occurred and tax revenues lowered for years later
2003 $377.6 billion deficit.. BRAND new cabinet Homeland Security, plus loans made to businesses.. again tax revenues down..affect of 9/11
2004 $412.7 billion deficit.. Revenues up by 5.5% spending increased and economy getting back.
2005 $318.3 billion deficit.. revenues up by 14.5% deficit decreasing at rate of 22%
2006 $248.2 billion deficit.. revenues up by 11.7% deficit decrease 22%
2007 $160.7 billion deficit.. revenues up by 6.7% deficit decrease 35%
2008 $458.6 billion deficit.. revenues down and deficit INCREASED TARP loan mostly...
Historical Federal Receipt and Outlay Summary

Largest Gross Domestic Product in history!!
When Bush took office in 2001 GDP was $12.355,271,000,000
when Bush left office in 2008 GDP was $14,359,490,000,000
A 16% increase in GDP or $2 TRILLION.
So how did those 4 gigantic events affect the Gross Domestic Product from 2000 to 2009?

So starting in 2001 132,548,000 people were working.
At the end of 2008 138,056,000 people working..

IN spite of recession, dot.com bust, 9/11, worst hurricanes.... MORE people were working... more tax revenue was collected. GDP grew!

But IDIOTS like you FFOs and LIPs ..............
WHY is it so hard for idiots like you to RECOGNIZE that these EVENTS cost jobs?

Moron, I went through some of those. Again, you listed a bunch of tropical storms and hurricanes that didn't even touch the U.S. You then call those, the "worst hurricane seasons." You're a moron and you prove it all the time.

um no YOU'RE the moron. you and every other idiot trying to brag bout the "success" of an economy under obama that has seen the very richest and basically ONLY the very richest get richer, and the poorest get poorer, both at A FASTER PACE under obama then was happening under bush and Republican

the hurricane stuff, and every thing else is a disraction by left-wing idiots

As you've been shown, the poor got righer under Obama. Something that didn't happen under any other president going back at least to Reagan.

And a reason you're a moron is because you still can't grasp this even though you've been shown this before. You don't learn.

the reason you're an idiot is you lie to your self. the richest got richer under obama, the poorest got poorer

thanks for playing though

DUH. Because of the Bush World Depression and the continuation of Reaganist tax rates and policies that have caused this for 30 years. See sig and all non dupe/Foxbot info. BS like Obama had total control for 2 years and wrecked blah blah...Total bs, MORON.

you are just a sad, ignorant clown that cant be taken seriously. now it's a "depression"? can you ever hope to prove that? of course you cant

and "continuing of Reaganist tax policies"??? you mean like obama making PERMANENT 98% of the Bush tax cuts?

i applaud him for that leftard. ooops there goes your theory that others are just "hater dupes". you're the one with the problem with that obama policy dummy

 

[bedowin62]

um no YOU'RE the moron. you and every other idiot trying to brag bout the "success" of an economy under obama that has seen the very richest and basically ONLY the very richest get richer, and the poorest get poorer, both at A FASTER PACE under obama then was happening under bush and Republican

the hurricane stuff, and every thing else is a disraction by left-wing idiots

As you've been shown, the poor got righer under Obama. Something that didn't happen under any other president going back at least to Reagan.

And a reason you're a moron is because you still can't grasp this even though you've been shown this before. You don't learn.

the reason you're an idiot is you lie to your self. the richest got richer under obama, the poorest got poorer

thanks for playing though

DUH. Because of the Bush World Depression and the continuation of Reaganist tax rates and policies that have caused this for 30 years. See sig and all non dupe/Foxbot info. BS like Obama had total control for 2 years and wrecked blah blah...Total bs, MORON.

YAWN

THE MORE you post; the more everybody gets to see what an idiot you are.

Jeez, wonder what happened in 1984, MORON. lol

was that the year you became brain-damaged?

 

[healthmyths]

BTW, Health Myth is nuts, keeps putting up the same threads with the same discredited BS for years. A great example of how FLORIDA is nuts lol...must be the heat.

A) I don't need to have stupid crap like this that you expect ANY one to read....
B) Your comment is always good for a laugh!
C)By the way "Franco is dead" in case you didn't know.
(The below is what someone who believes anyone reads anything he writes depends on to get some ignorant unsubstantiated comments at least seen!)
The USA is the only modern country in the world where full time workers live in poverty and have no health care (750k bankruptcies a year, most HAVE insurance - crap insurance!)After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!! And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?
Pubs have blocked EVERYTHING since 2/4/2010- don't be duped...again. Stimulus worked-ran out in 2010.
Total Pub Propaganda BS: ACORN, Kenyan Muslim Marxist,Tides, Mosque, Death Panel, lose your doctor, huge costs, DEBT CRISIS, Obama Recession, stimulus failed, Barney Frank, Nazi Soros, Nazi socialists, Volt suqs, Iran making bomb etc etc.
I'm sorry- dupes are lovely people- but I can't take their lazy, ignorant, careless, stupid politics a minute longer. Sorry

 

[bedowin62]

and when you say "continuation of..." Franco you make my point for me jackass. your own jackass Party WILLINGLY voted FOR CONTINUING those policies.

yet you sit there trying to act all tough, not realizing everything out of your mouth or fingers in this case, is a pathetic whine of how you and your Party were helpless and somehow forced to vote FOR things you were supposedly so adamantly against, and allegedly knew THEN how "destructive" they were.

 

[healthmyths]

and when you say "continuatiohn of..." you make my point for me jackass. your own jackass Party WILLINGLY voted FOR CONTINUING those policies.

yet you sit there trying to act all tough, not realizing everything out of your mouth or fingers in this case, is a pathetic whine of how you and your Party were helpless

Maybe this person that sit's there has "Depends" that are full and this person has to play with it which makes the keys kind of slippery!

 

[francoHFW]

BTW, Health Myth is nuts, keeps putting up the same threads with the same discredited BS for years. A great example of how FLORIDA is nuts lol...must be the heat.

A) I don't need to have stupid crap like this that you expect ANY one to read....
B) Your comment is always good for a laugh!
C)By the way "Franco is dead" in case you didn't know.
(The below is what someone who believes anyone reads anything he writes depends on to get some ignorant unsubstantiated comments at least seen!)
The USA is the only modern country in the world where full time workers live in poverty and have no health care (750k bankruptcies a year, most HAVE insurance - crap insurance!)After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!! And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?
Pubs have blocked EVERYTHING since 2/4/2010- don't be duped...again. Stimulus worked-ran out in 2010.
Total Pub Propaganda BS: ACORN, Kenyan Muslim Marxist,Tides, Mosque, Death Panel, lose your doctor, huge costs, DEBT CRISIS, Obama Recession, stimulus failed, Barney Frank, Nazi Soros, Nazi socialists, Volt suqs, Iran making bomb etc etc.
I'm sorry- dupes are lovely people- but I can't take their lazy, ignorant, careless, stupid politics a minute longer. Sorry

I vacationed in Spain several times under Franco- my English Aunt owned a bar in Fuengirola, and I lived there and tried to re-open it '94-5. Franco refers to Francophile.

Everything in my sig is documented fact, so of course breaking news to Foxbot WHATEVER Pub dupe ignoramuses like you.

 

[bedowin62]

BTW, Health Myth is nuts, keeps putting up the same threads with the same discredited BS for years. A great example of how FLORIDA is nuts lol...must be the heat.

A) I don't need to have stupid crap like this that you expect ANY one to read....
B) Your comment is always good for a laugh!
C)By the way "Franco is dead" in case you didn't know.
(The below is what someone who believes anyone reads anything he writes depends on to get some ignorant unsubstantiated comments at least seen!)
The USA is the only modern country in the world where full time workers live in poverty and have no health care (750k bankruptcies a year, most HAVE insurance - crap insurance!)After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!! And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?
Pubs have blocked EVERYTHING since 2/4/2010- don't be duped...again. Stimulus worked-ran out in 2010.
Total Pub Propaganda BS: ACORN, Kenyan Muslim Marxist,Tides, Mosque, Death Panel, lose your doctor, huge costs, DEBT CRISIS, Obama Recession, stimulus failed, Barney Frank, Nazi Soros, Nazi socialists, Volt suqs, Iran making bomb etc etc.
I'm sorry- dupes are lovely people- but I can't take their lazy, ignorant, careless, stupid politics a minute longer. Sorry

I vacationed in Spain several times under Franco- my English Aunt owned a bar in Fuengirola, and I lived there and tried to re-open it '94-5. Franco refers to Francophile.

Everything in my sig is documented fact, so of course breaking news to Foxbot WHATEVER Pub dupe ignoramuses like you.

it's a documented fact? i have some documented facts. let's see if you can handle them (without making pathetic, little boy excuses)

under obama/progressives the richest got richer and the poor got poorer

 

[Hutch Starskey]

BTW, Health Myth is nuts, keeps putting up the same threads with the same discredited BS for years. A great example of how FLORIDA is nuts lol...must be the heat.

A) I don't need to have stupid crap like this that you expect ANY one to read....
B) Your comment is always good for a laugh!
C)By the way "Franco is dead" in case you didn't know.
(The below is what someone who believes anyone reads anything he writes depends on to get some ignorant unsubstantiated comments at least seen!)
The USA is the only modern country in the world where full time workers live in poverty and have no health care (750k bankruptcies a year, most HAVE insurance - crap insurance!)After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!! And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?
Pubs have blocked EVERYTHING since 2/4/2010- don't be duped...again. Stimulus worked-ran out in 2010.
Total Pub Propaganda BS: ACORN, Kenyan Muslim Marxist,Tides, Mosque, Death Panel, lose your doctor, huge costs, DEBT CRISIS, Obama Recession, stimulus failed, Barney Frank, Nazi Soros, Nazi socialists, Volt suqs, Iran making bomb etc etc.
I'm sorry- dupes are lovely people- but I can't take their lazy, ignorant, careless, stupid politics a minute longer. Sorry

I vacationed in Spain several times under Franco- my English Aunt owned a bar in Fuengirola, and I lived there and tried to re-open it '94-5. Franco refers to Francophile.

Everything in my sig is documented fact, so of course breaking news to Foxbot WHATEVER Pub dupe ignoramuses like you.

it's a documented fact? i have some documented facts. let's see if you can handle them (without making pathetic, little boy excuses)

under obama/progressives the richest got richer and the poor got poorer

What policies has Obama and other
Dems put forth to address those issues?

What policies have the Repubs engaged in with the Dems or put forth on their own to address those issues?

You can't say Dems haven't tried to engage Repubs on these issues.

 

[bedowin62]

BTW, Health Myth is nuts, keeps putting up the same threads with the same discredited BS for years. A great example of how FLORIDA is nuts lol...must be the heat.

A) I don't need to have stupid crap like this that you expect ANY one to read....
B) Your comment is always good for a laugh!
C)By the way "Franco is dead" in case you didn't know.
(The below is what someone who believes anyone reads anything he writes depends on to get some ignorant unsubstantiated comments at least seen!)
The USA is the only modern country in the world where full time workers live in poverty and have no health care (750k bankruptcies a year, most HAVE insurance - crap insurance!)After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!! And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?
Pubs have blocked EVERYTHING since 2/4/2010- don't be duped...again. Stimulus worked-ran out in 2010.
Total Pub Propaganda BS: ACORN, Kenyan Muslim Marxist,Tides, Mosque, Death Panel, lose your doctor, huge costs, DEBT CRISIS, Obama Recession, stimulus failed, Barney Frank, Nazi Soros, Nazi socialists, Volt suqs, Iran making bomb etc etc.
I'm sorry- dupes are lovely people- but I can't take their lazy, ignorant, careless, stupid politics a minute longer. Sorry

I vacationed in Spain several times under Franco- my English Aunt owned a bar in Fuengirola, and I lived there and tried to re-open it '94-5. Franco refers to Francophile.

Everything in my sig is documented fact, so of course breaking news to Foxbot WHATEVER Pub dupe ignoramuses like you.

it's a documented fact? i have some documented facts. let's see if you can handle them (without making pathetic, little boy excuses)

under obama/progressives the richest got richer and the poor got poorer

What policies has Obama and other
Dems put forth to address those issues?

What policies have the Repubs engaged in with the Dems or put forth on their own to address those issues?

You can't say Dems haven't tried to engage Repubs on these issues.

i dont have to. i CAN say they got worse when Dems DID get what they wanted. for instance the almost $1 TRILLION "Stimulus", and tens of billions for "green" jobs like SOLYNDRA that failed to produce jobs and the money disappeared

 

[bedowin62]

"Shovel-ready wasnt so shovel-ready"

Obama

that's another example

 

[Hutch Starskey]

BTW, Health Myth is nuts, keeps putting up the same threads with the same discredited BS for years. A great example of how FLORIDA is nuts lol...must be the heat.

A) I don't need to have stupid crap like this that you expect ANY one to read....
B) Your comment is always good for a laugh!
C)By the way "Franco is dead" in case you didn't know.
(The below is what someone who believes anyone reads anything he writes depends on to get some ignorant unsubstantiated comments at least seen!)
The USA is the only modern country in the world where full time workers live in poverty and have no health care (750k bankruptcies a year, most HAVE insurance - crap insurance!)After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!! And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?
Pubs have blocked EVERYTHING since 2/4/2010- don't be duped...again. Stimulus worked-ran out in 2010.
Total Pub Propaganda BS: ACORN, Kenyan Muslim Marxist,Tides, Mosque, Death Panel, lose your doctor, huge costs, DEBT CRISIS, Obama Recession, stimulus failed, Barney Frank, Nazi Soros, Nazi socialists, Volt suqs, Iran making bomb etc etc.
I'm sorry- dupes are lovely people- but I can't take their lazy, ignorant, careless, stupid politics a minute longer. Sorry

I vacationed in Spain several times under Franco- my English Aunt owned a bar in Fuengirola, and I lived there and tried to re-open it '94-5. Franco refers to Francophile.

Everything in my sig is documented fact, so of course breaking news to Foxbot WHATEVER Pub dupe ignoramuses like you.

it's a documented fact? i have some documented facts. let's see if you can handle them (without making pathetic, little boy excuses)

under obama/progressives the richest got richer and the poor got poorer

What policies has Obama and other
Dems put forth to address those issues?

What policies have the Repubs engaged in with the Dems or put forth on their own to address those issues?

You can't say Dems haven't tried to engage Repubs on these issues.

i dont have to. i CAN say they got worse when Dems DID get what they wanted. for instance the almost $1 TRILLION "Stimulus", and tens of billions for "green" jobs like SOLYNDRA that failed to produce jobs and the money disappeared

Disingenuous nonsense. You can't place the blame wholly on the side that has indeed put forth ideas to address some of those issues while giving a pass to the other side that has done nothing even though they have the majority and could easily move on them.

Simply raising the MW would be a good start.