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80 million on Medicaid


A fucking welfare state where the government steals money from productive people and gives away to greedy shitheads is not fine. That is thievery.
The concept of forming a pool to distribute risk is basic to insurance. A reserve is then drawn upon when any member of the risk pool incurs eligible medical expenses. Optimizing the size of the risk pool minimizes the cost - as does the standardization and uniformity of the inevitable bureaucratic support systems via economy of scale. Thus, the actuarial advantage under the approach of all advanced democratic nations that insure everyone for less.


Yes and if it is a voluntary pool then everything is fine.

Except the filthy ass government fucks that up.

It puts restrictions on where you can buy the insurance.

Obamacare added a bunch of useless shit to kiss the ass of the Libtards in it that ran up the cost of premiums and that is despicable.

The government needs to stay out of the business of regulating health care just like they need to stay out of the business of fucking everything else up.

Cost SHIFTING not cost sharing. Do you know the difference?


You are so damn confused it is pathetic.

I will take one more time to explain to your dumb ass.

If I chose to join in an insurance pool then that is fine. I am put in a similar risk group and we all pay reasonable risk rates and the insurance company takes a profit out of the expenditures to pay for administering the program.

However, when the filthy ass government controls the pool by prohibiting free market transactions and putting in stupid costly requirement then it gets fucks up. Really fucked up. We saw that with Obamacare. The stupid government needs to stay out of the business of regulating health care.

Everything else we have is nothing more than some kind of filthy welfare. Everything from getting treated free in an emergency room to Medicaid to the filthy subsidies given through shitty programs like Obamacare.

I'll pay my health care bills and you pay yours and we leave the government out of it. Isn't that fair or are you one of these greedy little worthless assholes that thinks somebody else should pay your health care bills?

You are still paying for the uninsured.


Yea Moon Bat and that is fucking problem and it needs to stop.

The solution is Medicare for all.. We don't have to be like a third world country.


No Moon Bat, you are still confused.

The solution is that I pay my health care bills and you pay yours and the filthy government needs to stay out of it.

Is that concept of Liberty too complicated for you Socialist turds to understand?
 


Yes and if it is a voluntary pool then everything is fine.
The moral values of all advanced democratic nations do not allow for individuals and their families being consigned to suffering and dying because someone is alienated from society.

The reality that all advanced democracies have achieved a consensus concerning the way that moral commitment is best fulfilled is an expression of self-governance. Anyone who vehemently objects to that reality is free to go elsewhere.


You are confused Moon Bat. Civilized nations don't use the government to steal money.

You do know that thievery (even when the government does it) is still thievery, don't you? Thievery is as uncivilized as it gets.

You may not know that because you stupid Moon Bats are as confused about Ethics as you are about Economics, History, Biology, Climate Science and the Constitution.
 

You are still paying for the uninsured.
... as well as the astronomical recompense of parasitic privateer executives who treat and/or cure no one - and the absurdly inefficient duplications of bureaucratic functions, advertising and marketing costs, agency compensation, etc. by every one of them, not to mention the enormous taxpayer subsidies for employers who administer the plans.
 

You are still paying for the uninsured.
... as well as the astronomical recompense of parasitic privateer executives who treat and/or cure no one - and the absurdly inefficient duplications of bureaucratic functions, advertising and marketing costs, agency compensation, etc. by every one of them, not to mention the enormous taxpayer subsidies for employers who administer the plans.

Its pretty shocking.. A primary care doctor visit with NO procedures is $240 a visit. That's why the working poor use the ER.
 
In the richest nation on earth. That’s a lot of poor suffering Americans.


What a great country!
Pandemic Swells Medicaid Enrollment to 80 Million People, a ‘High-Water Mark’

Pretty good indication we need universal healthcare like the UK, Europe, Scandinavia, Israel, Canada, Austrailia and the Gulf States.
What do you do about the problem of medical care over-consumption and under-supply resulting in price inflation that’s already happening under existing government health insurance systems? What about the costs associated with implementing such a system, just go further into debt to fund it?

The countries/continents you pointed out don’t carry our current debt and structural deficit burdens, not to mention the fact that they’re in part relying on U.S. obligations to provide for their national defense and thus carry a lower burden in that department as well. They also have their own scarcity issues of medical care along with the fact that they enjoy lower drug prices thanks the fact that American consumers shoulder the lions share of the burden of pharma R & D costs for them.

“Universal care” isn’t the silver bullet that some make it out to be, there are A LOT of questions that need to be addressed before traveling down that road.

Do you know what cost shifting is? Have you noticed private insurance premiums going up? You are already paying for seniors, indigents and million dollar premature infants.

Its all about priorities or maybe we really aren't smart enough or compassionate enough to pull it off.
Yeah, I’m intimately familiar with the fact that costs can be shifted, however shifted costs don’t mean that those costs VANISH, they’re still there and what you’re proposing doesn’t solve the problem since it doesn’t address the root cause of rising costs, it EXACERBATES them by further disconnecting the consumer from the cost of service and encouraging OVER-CONSUMPTION, insufficient supply meet artificially induced increased demand.

Overconsumption isn't a problem. 60% of the healthcare dollar goes to seniors, premature babies and those with chronic diseases. The young, working family uses very little of the healthcare dollar.
And what are your beloved Rs doing about this?
Planning more tax cuts for the billionaires no doubt.

It's all they know.
I received a tax cut from Trump and I’m not a billionaire. Care to explain?
Yet based on the recent ProPublica report, it’s possible that you had a higher effective tax rate than the top 25 billionaires in the country. So instead of giving you a tax cut, what Trump really should have given you is access to those billionaires armies of attorney’s, accountants, financial advisors and lobbyists.

So much for our “progressive” tax code, huh?

Hahahahahaha. You have nothing.


A dozen facts about the economics of the US health-care system


U.S. per capita health-care spending nearly quadrupled from 1980 to 2018. Spending on U.S. health …
U.S. health-care spending is almost twice as high as the OECD average. The United States spends …
Most health-care spending is on hospitals and professional services. U.S. health-care spending is …
Five percent of Americans accounted for half of all U.S. health-care spending in 2017. Health-care
It’s a system built on greed. What has increased more in cost over the past 40 years than HC? Maybe college tuition? Higher education and HC costs have gone straight up. Two terribly corrupt industries.

What a country!

Automobiles, housing have also gone way up.. The only bargain left is gasoline.
True, yet we’re being told inflation is nonexistent.
In the richest nation on earth. That’s a lot of poor suffering Americans.


What a great country!
Pandemic Swells Medicaid Enrollment to 80 Million People, a ‘High-Water Mark’

Pretty good indication we need universal healthcare like the UK, Europe, Scandinavia, Israel, Canada, Austrailia and the Gulf States.
What do you do about the problem of medical care over-consumption and under-supply resulting in price inflation that’s already happening under existing government health insurance systems? What about the costs associated with implementing such a system, just go further into debt to fund it?

The countries/continents you pointed out don’t carry our current debt and structural deficit burdens, not to mention the fact that they’re in part relying on U.S. obligations to provide for their national defense and thus carry a lower burden in that department as well. They also have their own scarcity issues of medical care along with the fact that they enjoy lower drug prices thanks the fact that American consumers shoulder the lions share of the burden of pharma R & D costs for them.

“Universal care” isn’t the silver bullet that some make it out to be, there are A LOT of questions that need to be addressed before traveling down that road.

Do you know what cost shifting is? Have you noticed private insurance premiums going up? You are already paying for seniors, indigents and million dollar premature infants.

Its all about priorities or maybe we really aren't smart enough or compassionate enough to pull it off.
Yeah, I’m intimately familiar with the fact that costs can be shifted, however shifted costs don’t mean that those costs VANISH, they’re still there and what you’re proposing doesn’t solve the problem since it doesn’t address the root cause of rising costs, it EXACERBATES them by further disconnecting the consumer from the cost of service and encouraging OVER-CONSUMPTION, insufficient supply meet artificially induced increased demand.

Overconsumption isn't a problem. 60% of the healthcare dollar goes to seniors, premature babies and those with chronic diseases. The young, working family uses very little of the healthcare dollar.
And what are your beloved Rs doing about this?
Planning more tax cuts for the billionaires no doubt.

It's all they know.
I received a tax cut from Trump and I’m not a billionaire. Care to explain?
Yet based on the recent ProPublica report, it’s possible that you had a higher effective tax rate than the top 25 billionaires in the country. So instead of giving you a tax cut, what Trump really should have given you is access to those billionaires armies of attorney’s, accountants, financial advisors and lobbyists.

So much for our “progressive” tax code, huh?

Hahahahahaha. You have nothing.


A dozen facts about the economics of the US health-care system


U.S. per capita health-care spending nearly quadrupled from 1980 to 2018. Spending on U.S. health …
U.S. health-care spending is almost twice as high as the OECD average. The United States spends …
Most health-care spending is on hospitals and professional services. U.S. health-care spending is …
Five percent of Americans accounted for half of all U.S. health-care spending in 2017. Health-care
It’s a system built on greed. What has increased more in cost over the past 40 years than HC? Maybe college tuition? Higher education and HC costs have gone straight up. Two terribly corrupt industries.

What a country!
Again, what would you do differently. You bitch nonstop but never provide an alternative. What a man.....I am sorry, bitch.
Stay close to me and I’ll teach you well, my son.
Deflection. We have been going back and forth here for nearly what four years? You have yet to provide a solution, you just bitch nonstop.
Lol. I know you consider me the most intelligent person you’ve ever met, but I’m not the answer man. I’m just a great man.
You are just a whiner and you deflected yet again. Carry on...when you man up, ping me.
I can only conclude from your continued demands for solutions, that you believe anyone who exposes problems must provide solutions or STFU. Now…you must know this is illogical.
So you just want to bitch. Got it. LOL

Thank you for at least being honest. Yes, to me if you complain you should provide an alternative. Otherwise you're just bitching.
You better NEVER complain about anything in this country, unless you provide solutions. CRAZY!
Correct. Any old nag may complain but if you have a better option then the complaint is valid.
 

Its pretty shocking.. A primary care doctor visit with NO procedures is $240 a visit. That's why the working poor use the ER.
Some of the dogmatic ideologues, with no respect for all the advanced democratic nations reaching a general consensus concerning the most effective, efficient, and economical approach to fulfilling the needs of the People, preach a callous abandonment of the common welfare. It's a loser.
 

Its pretty shocking.. A primary care doctor visit with NO procedures is $240 a visit. That's why the working poor use the ER.
Some of the dogmatic ideologues, with no respect for all the advanced democratic nations reaching a general consensus concerning the most effective, efficient, and economical approach to fulfilling the need of the People, preach a callous abandonment of the common welfare. It's a loser.

Well, the truth is we spend more on healthcare than any other country.
 

Its pretty shocking.. A primary care doctor visit with NO procedures is $240 a visit. That's why the working poor use the ER.
Some of the dogmatic ideologues, with no respect for all the advanced democratic nations reaching a general consensus concerning the most effective, efficient, and economical approach to fulfilling the need of the People, preach a callous abandonment of the common welfare. It's a loser.

Well, the truth is we spend more on healthcare than any other country.
And the ideologues harangue against benefitting from the extant, demonstrable, superior examples of approaches the effective\ely covering everyone at far lower cost.

Their airy-fairy notions offer nothing of substance they can point to.
 
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In the richest nation on earth. That’s a lot of poor suffering Americans.


What a great country!
Pandemic Swells Medicaid Enrollment to 80 Million People, a ‘High-Water Mark’

Pretty good indication we need universal healthcare like the UK, Europe, Scandinavia, Israel, Canada, Austrailia and the Gulf States.
What do you do about the problem of medical care over-consumption and under-supply resulting in price inflation that’s already happening under existing government health insurance systems? What about the costs associated with implementing such a system, just go further into debt to fund it?

The countries/continents you pointed out don’t carry our current debt and structural deficit burdens, not to mention the fact that they’re in part relying on U.S. obligations to provide for their national defense and thus carry a lower burden in that department as well. They also have their own scarcity issues of medical care along with the fact that they enjoy lower drug prices thanks the fact that American consumers shoulder the lions share of the burden of pharma R & D costs for them.

“Universal care” isn’t the silver bullet that some make it out to be, there are A LOT of questions that need to be addressed before traveling down that road.

Do you know what cost shifting is? Have you noticed private insurance premiums going up? You are already paying for seniors, indigents and million dollar premature infants.

Its all about priorities or maybe we really aren't smart enough or compassionate enough to pull it off.
Yeah, I’m intimately familiar with the fact that costs can be shifted, however shifted costs don’t mean that those costs VANISH, they’re still there and what you’re proposing doesn’t solve the problem since it doesn’t address the root cause of rising costs, it EXACERBATES them by further disconnecting the consumer from the cost of service and encouraging OVER-CONSUMPTION, insufficient supply meet artificially induced increased demand.

Overconsumption isn't a problem. 60% of the healthcare dollar goes to seniors, premature babies and those with chronic diseases. The young, working family uses very little of the healthcare dollar.
And what are your beloved Rs doing about this?
Planning more tax cuts for the billionaires no doubt.

It's all they know.
I received a tax cut from Trump and I’m not a billionaire. Care to explain?
Yet based on the recent ProPublica report, it’s possible that you had a higher effective tax rate than the top 25 billionaires in the country. So instead of giving you a tax cut, what Trump really should have given you is access to those billionaires armies of attorney’s, accountants, financial advisors and lobbyists.

So much for our “progressive” tax code, huh?

Hahahahahaha. You have nothing.


A dozen facts about the economics of the US health-care system


U.S. per capita health-care spending nearly quadrupled from 1980 to 2018. Spending on U.S. health …
U.S. health-care spending is almost twice as high as the OECD average. The United States spends …
Most health-care spending is on hospitals and professional services. U.S. health-care spending is …
Five percent of Americans accounted for half of all U.S. health-care spending in 2017. Health-care
It’s a system built on greed. What has increased more in cost over the past 40 years than HC? Maybe college tuition? Higher education and HC costs have gone straight up. Two terribly corrupt industries.

What a country!

Automobiles, housing have also gone way up.. The only bargain left is gasoline.
True, yet we’re being told inflation is nonexistent.
In the richest nation on earth. That’s a lot of poor suffering Americans.


What a great country!
Pandemic Swells Medicaid Enrollment to 80 Million People, a ‘High-Water Mark’

Pretty good indication we need universal healthcare like the UK, Europe, Scandinavia, Israel, Canada, Austrailia and the Gulf States.
What do you do about the problem of medical care over-consumption and under-supply resulting in price inflation that’s already happening under existing government health insurance systems? What about the costs associated with implementing such a system, just go further into debt to fund it?

The countries/continents you pointed out don’t carry our current debt and structural deficit burdens, not to mention the fact that they’re in part relying on U.S. obligations to provide for their national defense and thus carry a lower burden in that department as well. They also have their own scarcity issues of medical care along with the fact that they enjoy lower drug prices thanks the fact that American consumers shoulder the lions share of the burden of pharma R & D costs for them.

“Universal care” isn’t the silver bullet that some make it out to be, there are A LOT of questions that need to be addressed before traveling down that road.

Do you know what cost shifting is? Have you noticed private insurance premiums going up? You are already paying for seniors, indigents and million dollar premature infants.

Its all about priorities or maybe we really aren't smart enough or compassionate enough to pull it off.
Yeah, I’m intimately familiar with the fact that costs can be shifted, however shifted costs don’t mean that those costs VANISH, they’re still there and what you’re proposing doesn’t solve the problem since it doesn’t address the root cause of rising costs, it EXACERBATES them by further disconnecting the consumer from the cost of service and encouraging OVER-CONSUMPTION, insufficient supply meet artificially induced increased demand.

Overconsumption isn't a problem. 60% of the healthcare dollar goes to seniors, premature babies and those with chronic diseases. The young, working family uses very little of the healthcare dollar.
And what are your beloved Rs doing about this?
Planning more tax cuts for the billionaires no doubt.

It's all they know.
I received a tax cut from Trump and I’m not a billionaire. Care to explain?
Yet based on the recent ProPublica report, it’s possible that you had a higher effective tax rate than the top 25 billionaires in the country. So instead of giving you a tax cut, what Trump really should have given you is access to those billionaires armies of attorney’s, accountants, financial advisors and lobbyists.

So much for our “progressive” tax code, huh?

Hahahahahaha. You have nothing.


A dozen facts about the economics of the US health-care system


U.S. per capita health-care spending nearly quadrupled from 1980 to 2018. Spending on U.S. health …
U.S. health-care spending is almost twice as high as the OECD average. The United States spends …
Most health-care spending is on hospitals and professional services. U.S. health-care spending is …
Five percent of Americans accounted for half of all U.S. health-care spending in 2017. Health-care
It’s a system built on greed. What has increased more in cost over the past 40 years than HC? Maybe college tuition? Higher education and HC costs have gone straight up. Two terribly corrupt industries.

What a country!
Again, what would you do differently. You bitch nonstop but never provide an alternative. What a man.....I am sorry, bitch.
Stay close to me and I’ll teach you well, my son.
Deflection. We have been going back and forth here for nearly what four years? You have yet to provide a solution, you just bitch nonstop.
Lol. I know you consider me the most intelligent person you’ve ever met, but I’m not the answer man. I’m just a great man.
You are just a whiner and you deflected yet again. Carry on...when you man up, ping me.
I can only conclude from your continued demands for solutions, that you believe anyone who exposes problems must provide solutions or STFU. Now…you must know this is illogical.
So you just want to bitch. Got it. LOL

Thank you for at least being honest. Yes, to me if you complain you should provide an alternative. Otherwise you're just bitching.
You better NEVER complain about anything in this country, unless you provide solutions. CRAZY!
Correct. Any old nag may complain but if you have a better option then the complaint is valid.

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Its pretty shocking.. A primary care doctor visit with NO procedures is $240 a visit. That's why the working poor use the ER.
Some of the dogmatic ideologues, with no respect for all the advanced democratic nations reaching a general consensus concerning the most effective, efficient, and economical approach to fulfilling the need of the People, preach a callous abandonment of the common welfare. It's a loser.

Well, the truth is we spend more on healthcare than any other country.
We spend so much on healthcare in large part because the average American eats garbage and doesn't exercise, our health care dollars are being eaten up by chronic lifestyle diseases like heart disease and diabetes and it's only going to continue to get worse.
 

Its pretty shocking.. A primary care doctor visit with NO procedures is $240 a visit. That's why the working poor use the ER.
Some of the dogmatic ideologues, with no respect for all the advanced democratic nations reaching a general consensus concerning the most effective, efficient, and economical approach to fulfilling the need of the People, preach a callous abandonment of the common welfare. It's a loser.

Well, the truth is we spend more on healthcare than any other country.
We spend so much on healthcare in large part because the average American eats garbage and doesn't exercise, our health care dollars are being eaten up by chronic lifestyle diseases like heart disease and diabetes and it's only going to continue to get worse.

Our medical schools cost about 300 times as much as other countries while the quality of training is about the same. Foreign Medical grads kick ass on the EGFMG exam..
 
In the richest nation on earth. That’s a lot of poor suffering Americans.


What a great country!
Pandemic Swells Medicaid Enrollment to 80 Million People, a ‘High-Water Mark’

Pretty good indication we need universal healthcare like the UK, Europe, Scandinavia, Israel, Canada, Austrailia and the Gulf States.
What do you do about the problem of medical care over-consumption and under-supply resulting in price inflation that’s already happening under existing government health insurance systems? What about the costs associated with implementing such a system, just go further into debt to fund it?

The countries/continents you pointed out don’t carry our current debt and structural deficit burdens, not to mention the fact that they’re in part relying on U.S. obligations to provide for their national defense and thus carry a lower burden in that department as well. They also have their own scarcity issues of medical care along with the fact that they enjoy lower drug prices thanks the fact that American consumers shoulder the lions share of the burden of pharma R & D costs for them.

“Universal care” isn’t the silver bullet that some make it out to be, there are A LOT of questions that need to be addressed before traveling down that road.

Do you know what cost shifting is? Have you noticed private insurance premiums going up? You are already paying for seniors, indigents and million dollar premature infants.

Its all about priorities or maybe we really aren't smart enough or compassionate enough to pull it off.
Yeah, I’m intimately familiar with the fact that costs can be shifted, however shifted costs don’t mean that those costs VANISH, they’re still there and what you’re proposing doesn’t solve the problem since it doesn’t address the root cause of rising costs, it EXACERBATES them by further disconnecting the consumer from the cost of service and encouraging OVER-CONSUMPTION, insufficient supply meet artificially induced increased demand.

Overconsumption isn't a problem. 60% of the healthcare dollar goes to seniors, premature babies and those with chronic diseases. The young, working family uses very little of the healthcare dollar.
And what are your beloved Rs doing about this?
Planning more tax cuts for the billionaires no doubt.

It's all they know.
I received a tax cut from Trump and I’m not a billionaire. Care to explain?
Yet based on the recent ProPublica report, it’s possible that you had a higher effective tax rate than the top 25 billionaires in the country. So instead of giving you a tax cut, what Trump really should have given you is access to those billionaires armies of attorney’s, accountants, financial advisors and lobbyists.

So much for our “progressive” tax code, huh?

Hahahahahaha. You have nothing.


A dozen facts about the economics of the US health-care system


U.S. per capita health-care spending nearly quadrupled from 1980 to 2018. Spending on U.S. health …
U.S. health-care spending is almost twice as high as the OECD average. The United States spends …
Most health-care spending is on hospitals and professional services. U.S. health-care spending is …
Five percent of Americans accounted for half of all U.S. health-care spending in 2017. Health-care
It’s a system built on greed. What has increased more in cost over the past 40 years than HC? Maybe college tuition? Higher education and HC costs have gone straight up. Two terribly corrupt industries.

What a country!

Automobiles, housing have also gone way up.. The only bargain left is gasoline.
True, yet we’re being told inflation is nonexistent.
In the richest nation on earth. That’s a lot of poor suffering Americans.


What a great country!
Pandemic Swells Medicaid Enrollment to 80 Million People, a ‘High-Water Mark’

Pretty good indication we need universal healthcare like the UK, Europe, Scandinavia, Israel, Canada, Austrailia and the Gulf States.
What do you do about the problem of medical care over-consumption and under-supply resulting in price inflation that’s already happening under existing government health insurance systems? What about the costs associated with implementing such a system, just go further into debt to fund it?

The countries/continents you pointed out don’t carry our current debt and structural deficit burdens, not to mention the fact that they’re in part relying on U.S. obligations to provide for their national defense and thus carry a lower burden in that department as well. They also have their own scarcity issues of medical care along with the fact that they enjoy lower drug prices thanks the fact that American consumers shoulder the lions share of the burden of pharma R & D costs for them.

“Universal care” isn’t the silver bullet that some make it out to be, there are A LOT of questions that need to be addressed before traveling down that road.

Do you know what cost shifting is? Have you noticed private insurance premiums going up? You are already paying for seniors, indigents and million dollar premature infants.

Its all about priorities or maybe we really aren't smart enough or compassionate enough to pull it off.
Yeah, I’m intimately familiar with the fact that costs can be shifted, however shifted costs don’t mean that those costs VANISH, they’re still there and what you’re proposing doesn’t solve the problem since it doesn’t address the root cause of rising costs, it EXACERBATES them by further disconnecting the consumer from the cost of service and encouraging OVER-CONSUMPTION, insufficient supply meet artificially induced increased demand.

Overconsumption isn't a problem. 60% of the healthcare dollar goes to seniors, premature babies and those with chronic diseases. The young, working family uses very little of the healthcare dollar.
And what are your beloved Rs doing about this?
Planning more tax cuts for the billionaires no doubt.

It's all they know.
I received a tax cut from Trump and I’m not a billionaire. Care to explain?
Yet based on the recent ProPublica report, it’s possible that you had a higher effective tax rate than the top 25 billionaires in the country. So instead of giving you a tax cut, what Trump really should have given you is access to those billionaires armies of attorney’s, accountants, financial advisors and lobbyists.

So much for our “progressive” tax code, huh?

Hahahahahaha. You have nothing.


A dozen facts about the economics of the US health-care system


U.S. per capita health-care spending nearly quadrupled from 1980 to 2018. Spending on U.S. health …
U.S. health-care spending is almost twice as high as the OECD average. The United States spends …
Most health-care spending is on hospitals and professional services. U.S. health-care spending is …
Five percent of Americans accounted for half of all U.S. health-care spending in 2017. Health-care
It’s a system built on greed. What has increased more in cost over the past 40 years than HC? Maybe college tuition? Higher education and HC costs have gone straight up. Two terribly corrupt industries.

What a country!
Again, what would you do differently. You bitch nonstop but never provide an alternative. What a man.....I am sorry, bitch.
Stay close to me and I’ll teach you well, my son.
Deflection. We have been going back and forth here for nearly what four years? You have yet to provide a solution, you just bitch nonstop.
Lol. I know you consider me the most intelligent person you’ve ever met, but I’m not the answer man. I’m just a great man.
You are just a whiner and you deflected yet again. Carry on...when you man up, ping me.
I can only conclude from your continued demands for solutions, that you believe anyone who exposes problems must provide solutions or STFU. Now…you must know this is illogical.
So you just want to bitch. Got it. LOL

Thank you for at least being honest. Yes, to me if you complain you should provide an alternative. Otherwise you're just bitching.
You better NEVER complain about anything in this country, unless you provide solutions. CRAZY!
Correct. Any old nag may complain but if you have a better option then the complaint is valid.

db120_fig5.png
11 years old. What are you trying to prove?
 
In the richest nation on earth. That’s a lot of poor suffering Americans.


What a great country!
Pandemic Swells Medicaid Enrollment to 80 Million People, a ‘High-Water Mark’

Pretty good indication we need universal healthcare like the UK, Europe, Scandinavia, Israel, Canada, Austrailia and the Gulf States.
What do you do about the problem of medical care over-consumption and under-supply resulting in price inflation that’s already happening under existing government health insurance systems? What about the costs associated with implementing such a system, just go further into debt to fund it?

The countries/continents you pointed out don’t carry our current debt and structural deficit burdens, not to mention the fact that they’re in part relying on U.S. obligations to provide for their national defense and thus carry a lower burden in that department as well. They also have their own scarcity issues of medical care along with the fact that they enjoy lower drug prices thanks the fact that American consumers shoulder the lions share of the burden of pharma R & D costs for them.

“Universal care” isn’t the silver bullet that some make it out to be, there are A LOT of questions that need to be addressed before traveling down that road.

Do you know what cost shifting is? Have you noticed private insurance premiums going up? You are already paying for seniors, indigents and million dollar premature infants.

Its all about priorities or maybe we really aren't smart enough or compassionate enough to pull it off.
Yeah, I’m intimately familiar with the fact that costs can be shifted, however shifted costs don’t mean that those costs VANISH, they’re still there and what you’re proposing doesn’t solve the problem since it doesn’t address the root cause of rising costs, it EXACERBATES them by further disconnecting the consumer from the cost of service and encouraging OVER-CONSUMPTION, insufficient supply meet artificially induced increased demand.

Overconsumption isn't a problem. 60% of the healthcare dollar goes to seniors, premature babies and those with chronic diseases. The young, working family uses very little of the healthcare dollar.
And what are your beloved Rs doing about this?
Planning more tax cuts for the billionaires no doubt.

It's all they know.
I received a tax cut from Trump and I’m not a billionaire. Care to explain?
Yet based on the recent ProPublica report, it’s possible that you had a higher effective tax rate than the top 25 billionaires in the country. So instead of giving you a tax cut, what Trump really should have given you is access to those billionaires armies of attorney’s, accountants, financial advisors and lobbyists.

So much for our “progressive” tax code, huh?

Hahahahahaha. You have nothing.


A dozen facts about the economics of the US health-care system


U.S. per capita health-care spending nearly quadrupled from 1980 to 2018. Spending on U.S. health …
U.S. health-care spending is almost twice as high as the OECD average. The United States spends …
Most health-care spending is on hospitals and professional services. U.S. health-care spending is …
Five percent of Americans accounted for half of all U.S. health-care spending in 2017. Health-care
It’s a system built on greed. What has increased more in cost over the past 40 years than HC? Maybe college tuition? Higher education and HC costs have gone straight up. Two terribly corrupt industries.

What a country!

Automobiles, housing have also gone way up.. The only bargain left is gasoline.
True, yet we’re being told inflation is nonexistent.
In the richest nation on earth. That’s a lot of poor suffering Americans.


What a great country!
Pandemic Swells Medicaid Enrollment to 80 Million People, a ‘High-Water Mark’

Pretty good indication we need universal healthcare like the UK, Europe, Scandinavia, Israel, Canada, Austrailia and the Gulf States.
What do you do about the problem of medical care over-consumption and under-supply resulting in price inflation that’s already happening under existing government health insurance systems? What about the costs associated with implementing such a system, just go further into debt to fund it?

The countries/continents you pointed out don’t carry our current debt and structural deficit burdens, not to mention the fact that they’re in part relying on U.S. obligations to provide for their national defense and thus carry a lower burden in that department as well. They also have their own scarcity issues of medical care along with the fact that they enjoy lower drug prices thanks the fact that American consumers shoulder the lions share of the burden of pharma R & D costs for them.

“Universal care” isn’t the silver bullet that some make it out to be, there are A LOT of questions that need to be addressed before traveling down that road.

Do you know what cost shifting is? Have you noticed private insurance premiums going up? You are already paying for seniors, indigents and million dollar premature infants.

Its all about priorities or maybe we really aren't smart enough or compassionate enough to pull it off.
Yeah, I’m intimately familiar with the fact that costs can be shifted, however shifted costs don’t mean that those costs VANISH, they’re still there and what you’re proposing doesn’t solve the problem since it doesn’t address the root cause of rising costs, it EXACERBATES them by further disconnecting the consumer from the cost of service and encouraging OVER-CONSUMPTION, insufficient supply meet artificially induced increased demand.

Overconsumption isn't a problem. 60% of the healthcare dollar goes to seniors, premature babies and those with chronic diseases. The young, working family uses very little of the healthcare dollar.
And what are your beloved Rs doing about this?
Planning more tax cuts for the billionaires no doubt.

It's all they know.
I received a tax cut from Trump and I’m not a billionaire. Care to explain?
Yet based on the recent ProPublica report, it’s possible that you had a higher effective tax rate than the top 25 billionaires in the country. So instead of giving you a tax cut, what Trump really should have given you is access to those billionaires armies of attorney’s, accountants, financial advisors and lobbyists.

So much for our “progressive” tax code, huh?

Hahahahahaha. You have nothing.


A dozen facts about the economics of the US health-care system


U.S. per capita health-care spending nearly quadrupled from 1980 to 2018. Spending on U.S. health …
U.S. health-care spending is almost twice as high as the OECD average. The United States spends …
Most health-care spending is on hospitals and professional services. U.S. health-care spending is …
Five percent of Americans accounted for half of all U.S. health-care spending in 2017. Health-care
It’s a system built on greed. What has increased more in cost over the past 40 years than HC? Maybe college tuition? Higher education and HC costs have gone straight up. Two terribly corrupt industries.

What a country!
Again, what would you do differently. You bitch nonstop but never provide an alternative. What a man.....I am sorry, bitch.
Stay close to me and I’ll teach you well, my son.
Deflection. We have been going back and forth here for nearly what four years? You have yet to provide a solution, you just bitch nonstop.
Lol. I know you consider me the most intelligent person you’ve ever met, but I’m not the answer man. I’m just a great man.
You are just a whiner and you deflected yet again. Carry on...when you man up, ping me.
I can only conclude from your continued demands for solutions, that you believe anyone who exposes problems must provide solutions or STFU. Now…you must know this is illogical.
So you just want to bitch. Got it. LOL

Thank you for at least being honest. Yes, to me if you complain you should provide an alternative. Otherwise you're just bitching.
You better NEVER complain about anything in this country, unless you provide solutions. CRAZY!
Correct. Any old nag may complain but if you have a better option then the complaint is valid.

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11 years old. What are you trying to prove?

It hasn't gotten better.
 
This was the plan all along for health care



Take all the money and innovation out of health care, and let people who are not healthy productive workers for the state, let them all die.

Fuck RR; he woke up after he advised Clinton and GW how to destroy the US via Globalism.
 
In the richest nation on earth. That’s a lot of poor suffering Americans.


What a great country!
Pandemic Swells Medicaid Enrollment to 80 Million People, a ‘High-Water Mark’

Pretty good indication we need universal healthcare like the UK, Europe, Scandinavia, Israel, Canada, Austrailia and the Gulf States.
What do you do about the problem of medical care over-consumption and under-supply resulting in price inflation that’s already happening under existing government health insurance systems? What about the costs associated with implementing such a system, just go further into debt to fund it?

The countries/continents you pointed out don’t carry our current debt and structural deficit burdens, not to mention the fact that they’re in part relying on U.S. obligations to provide for their national defense and thus carry a lower burden in that department as well. They also have their own scarcity issues of medical care along with the fact that they enjoy lower drug prices thanks the fact that American consumers shoulder the lions share of the burden of pharma R & D costs for them.

“Universal care” isn’t the silver bullet that some make it out to be, there are A LOT of questions that need to be addressed before traveling down that road.

Do you know what cost shifting is? Have you noticed private insurance premiums going up? You are already paying for seniors, indigents and million dollar premature infants.

Its all about priorities or maybe we really aren't smart enough or compassionate enough to pull it off.
Yeah, I’m intimately familiar with the fact that costs can be shifted, however shifted costs don’t mean that those costs VANISH, they’re still there and what you’re proposing doesn’t solve the problem since it doesn’t address the root cause of rising costs, it EXACERBATES them by further disconnecting the consumer from the cost of service and encouraging OVER-CONSUMPTION, insufficient supply meet artificially induced increased demand.

Overconsumption isn't a problem. 60% of the healthcare dollar goes to seniors, premature babies and those with chronic diseases. The young, working family uses very little of the healthcare dollar.
And what are your beloved Rs doing about this?
Planning more tax cuts for the billionaires no doubt.

It's all they know.
I received a tax cut from Trump and I’m not a billionaire. Care to explain?
Yet based on the recent ProPublica report, it’s possible that you had a higher effective tax rate than the top 25 billionaires in the country. So instead of giving you a tax cut, what Trump really should have given you is access to those billionaires armies of attorney’s, accountants, financial advisors and lobbyists.

So much for our “progressive” tax code, huh?

Hahahahahaha. You have nothing.


A dozen facts about the economics of the US health-care system


U.S. per capita health-care spending nearly quadrupled from 1980 to 2018. Spending on U.S. health …
U.S. health-care spending is almost twice as high as the OECD average. The United States spends …
Most health-care spending is on hospitals and professional services. U.S. health-care spending is …
Five percent of Americans accounted for half of all U.S. health-care spending in 2017. Health-care
It’s a system built on greed. What has increased more in cost over the past 40 years than HC? Maybe college tuition? Higher education and HC costs have gone straight up. Two terribly corrupt industries.

What a country!

Automobiles, housing have also gone way up.. The only bargain left is gasoline.
True, yet we’re being told inflation is nonexistent.
In the richest nation on earth. That’s a lot of poor suffering Americans.


What a great country!
Pandemic Swells Medicaid Enrollment to 80 Million People, a ‘High-Water Mark’

Pretty good indication we need universal healthcare like the UK, Europe, Scandinavia, Israel, Canada, Austrailia and the Gulf States.
What do you do about the problem of medical care over-consumption and under-supply resulting in price inflation that’s already happening under existing government health insurance systems? What about the costs associated with implementing such a system, just go further into debt to fund it?

The countries/continents you pointed out don’t carry our current debt and structural deficit burdens, not to mention the fact that they’re in part relying on U.S. obligations to provide for their national defense and thus carry a lower burden in that department as well. They also have their own scarcity issues of medical care along with the fact that they enjoy lower drug prices thanks the fact that American consumers shoulder the lions share of the burden of pharma R & D costs for them.

“Universal care” isn’t the silver bullet that some make it out to be, there are A LOT of questions that need to be addressed before traveling down that road.

Do you know what cost shifting is? Have you noticed private insurance premiums going up? You are already paying for seniors, indigents and million dollar premature infants.

Its all about priorities or maybe we really aren't smart enough or compassionate enough to pull it off.
Yeah, I’m intimately familiar with the fact that costs can be shifted, however shifted costs don’t mean that those costs VANISH, they’re still there and what you’re proposing doesn’t solve the problem since it doesn’t address the root cause of rising costs, it EXACERBATES them by further disconnecting the consumer from the cost of service and encouraging OVER-CONSUMPTION, insufficient supply meet artificially induced increased demand.

Overconsumption isn't a problem. 60% of the healthcare dollar goes to seniors, premature babies and those with chronic diseases. The young, working family uses very little of the healthcare dollar.
And what are your beloved Rs doing about this?
Planning more tax cuts for the billionaires no doubt.

It's all they know.
I received a tax cut from Trump and I’m not a billionaire. Care to explain?
Yet based on the recent ProPublica report, it’s possible that you had a higher effective tax rate than the top 25 billionaires in the country. So instead of giving you a tax cut, what Trump really should have given you is access to those billionaires armies of attorney’s, accountants, financial advisors and lobbyists.

So much for our “progressive” tax code, huh?

Hahahahahaha. You have nothing.


A dozen facts about the economics of the US health-care system


U.S. per capita health-care spending nearly quadrupled from 1980 to 2018. Spending on U.S. health …
U.S. health-care spending is almost twice as high as the OECD average. The United States spends …
Most health-care spending is on hospitals and professional services. U.S. health-care spending is …
Five percent of Americans accounted for half of all U.S. health-care spending in 2017. Health-care
It’s a system built on greed. What has increased more in cost over the past 40 years than HC? Maybe college tuition? Higher education and HC costs have gone straight up. Two terribly corrupt industries.

What a country!
Again, what would you do differently. You bitch nonstop but never provide an alternative. What a man.....I am sorry, bitch.
Stay close to me and I’ll teach you well, my son.
Deflection. We have been going back and forth here for nearly what four years? You have yet to provide a solution, you just bitch nonstop.
Lol. I know you consider me the most intelligent person you’ve ever met, but I’m not the answer man. I’m just a great man.
You are just a whiner and you deflected yet again. Carry on...when you man up, ping me.
I can only conclude from your continued demands for solutions, that you believe anyone who exposes problems must provide solutions or STFU. Now…you must know this is illogical.
So you just want to bitch. Got it. LOL

Thank you for at least being honest. Yes, to me if you complain you should provide an alternative. Otherwise you're just bitching.
You better NEVER complain about anything in this country, unless you provide solutions. CRAZY!
Correct. Any old nag may complain but if you have a better option then the complaint is valid.

db120_fig5.png
11 years old. What are you trying to prove?

It hasn't gotten better.
Link? And again what are you trying to prove?
 

Its pretty shocking.. A primary care doctor visit with NO procedures is $240 a visit. That's why the working poor use the ER.
Some of the dogmatic ideologues, with no respect for all the advanced democratic nations reaching a general consensus concerning the most effective, efficient, and economical approach to fulfilling the need of the People, preach a callous abandonment of the common welfare. It's a loser.

Well, the truth is we spend more on healthcare than any other country.
We spend so much on healthcare in large part because the average American eats garbage and doesn't exercise, our health care dollars are being eaten up by chronic lifestyle diseases like heart disease and diabetes and it's only going to continue to get worse.

Our medical schools cost about 300 times as much as other countries while the quality of training is about the same. Foreign Medical grads kick ass on the EGFMG exam..
It's called LIABILITY.
 

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