9 reasons Denmark's government/economy is better than the US's

God I am so sick of this false sense of arrogance and superiority that Americans have about the rest of the world.
IRONY ALERT!
:lol:
You know what the trade off of a bloated defense budget is? Way less money goes to our crumbing infrastructure system and safety net programs like job training for the poor. As a result, we have the worst child poverty rate in the developed world. I guess that's all okay because of our ridiculous and over compensating military force.
That's why I am all for Denmark, and the other homogenous white Nordic countries you idealize, paying for their own defense so we can cut our defense spending back.

I doubt that would lead to us cutting our defense...
See post 68.

If Denmark and the other slackers paid their defense obligations, what do you think would happen to their social safety nets?

They wouldn't be looking down their noses at us any more, that's for sure.

We are carrying them.
 
God I am so sick of this false sense of arrogance and superiority that Americans have about the rest of the world.
IRONY ALERT!
:lol:
You know what the trade off of a bloated defense budget is? Way less money goes to our crumbing infrastructure system and safety net programs like job training for the poor. As a result, we have the worst child poverty rate in the developed world. I guess that's all okay because of our ridiculous and over compensating military force.
That's why I am all for Denmark, and the other homogenous white Nordic countries you idealize, paying for their own defense so we can cut our defense spending back.

I doubt that would lead to us cutting our defense...
See post 68.

If Denmark and the other slackers paid their defense obligations, what do you think would happen to their social safety nets?

They wouldn't be looking down their noses at us any more, that's for sure.

We are carrying them.
To Brain's point, we now have the military/industrial complex that Eisenhower warned us of. It has become so completely intertwined with our economic system that it must be maintained no matter what (or at least that's what those in charge seem to think). If they paid their own way, somehow our military expenditures would be rejiggered and justified at the same or higher levels.
 
God I am so sick of this false sense of arrogance and superiority that Americans have about the rest of the world.
IRONY ALERT!
:lol:
You know what the trade off of a bloated defense budget is? Way less money goes to our crumbing infrastructure system and safety net programs like job training for the poor. As a result, we have the worst child poverty rate in the developed world. I guess that's all okay because of our ridiculous and over compensating military force.
That's why I am all for Denmark, and the other homogenous white Nordic countries you idealize, paying for their own defense so we can cut our defense spending back.

I doubt that would lead to us cutting our defense...
See post 68.

If Denmark and the other slackers paid their defense obligations, what do you think would happen to their social safety nets?

They wouldn't be looking down their noses at us any more, that's for sure.

We are carrying them.

If they paid more, it still wouldn't decrease ours. Republicans will never let spending decrease.
 
Yawn. Don't you ever get tired of whining about this shit?

And how would more federal taxes, more state taxes, more city and town taxes and a 25% federal sales tax give us more options when we'll all have less money?

Maybe the rich would have less money, but they are a minority. The majority would have more due to affordable healthcare, retirement, and education.

No the middle class would get hammered as usual.

They are hammered by our healthcare, education, and retirement costs now. They would benefit from the increased mobility.

So wait by raising taxes they would have more mobility?

Where do you get this shit? Denmark's income taxes are higher in every bracket than ours, every city town and municipality has it's own income tax and there is a 25% national sales tax and then all the other taxes and fees we don't know about

Let's just stick to the sales tax here. Do you really think if everyone had to pay 25% more for everything that they would have more money or less money to live on? If you have less money to live on you have less not more mobility

And their mobility is greater than ours.

proof?
 
Maybe the rich would have less money, but they are a minority. The majority would have more due to affordable healthcare, retirement, and education.

No the middle class would get hammered as usual.

They are hammered by our healthcare, education, and retirement costs now. They would benefit from the increased mobility.

So wait by raising taxes they would have more mobility?

Where do you get this shit? Denmark's income taxes are higher in every bracket than ours, every city town and municipality has it's own income tax and there is a 25% national sales tax and then all the other taxes and fees we don't know about

Let's just stick to the sales tax here. Do you really think if everyone had to pay 25% more for everything that they would have more money or less money to live on? If you have less money to live on you have less not more mobility

And their mobility is greater than ours.

proof?


Here it is again

U.S. lags behind peer countries in mobility
 
Maybe the rich would have less money, but they are a minority. The majority would have more due to affordable healthcare, retirement, and education.

No the middle class would get hammered as usual.

They are hammered by our healthcare, education, and retirement costs now. They would benefit from the increased mobility.

So wait by raising taxes they would have more mobility?

Where do you get this shit? Denmark's income taxes are higher in every bracket than ours, every city town and municipality has it's own income tax and there is a 25% national sales tax and then all the other taxes and fees we don't know about

Let's just stick to the sales tax here. Do you really think if everyone had to pay 25% more for everything that they would have more money or less money to live on? If you have less money to live on you have less not more mobility

And their mobility is greater than ours.

proof?


Don't listen to this tripe, lol. It is just spinning by the left, making numbers work by cherry picking.

The question is simple--------------> would you rather make 100,000 a year over there, and get taxed at 56% fed rate, and 25% locally, along with paying 6 bucks a gallon of gas equivalent, or make 80,000, pay 32% fed, and 7 State, along with paying 2 bucks for a gallon of gas, and get to watch sports, lol.

This Billie person is probably a female college student under the tutelage of Bill Ayers. Has anyone looked up their EVIL corporate tax rates? No! Well, I say they are LOWER than ours, so if we want to be as happy as they are, we need to LOWER corporate tax rates-)
 
No the middle class would get hammered as usual.

They are hammered by our healthcare, education, and retirement costs now. They would benefit from the increased mobility.

So wait by raising taxes they would have more mobility?

Where do you get this shit? Denmark's income taxes are higher in every bracket than ours, every city town and municipality has it's own income tax and there is a 25% national sales tax and then all the other taxes and fees we don't know about

Let's just stick to the sales tax here. Do you really think if everyone had to pay 25% more for everything that they would have more money or less money to live on? If you have less money to live on you have less not more mobility

And their mobility is greater than ours.

proof?


Don't listen to this tripe, lol. It is just spinning by the left, making numbers work by cherry picking.

The question is simple--------------> would you rather make 100,000 a year over there, and get taxed at 56% fed rate, and 25% locally, along with paying 6 bucks a gallon of gas equivalent, or make 80,000, pay 32% fed, and 7 State, along with paying 2 bucks for a gallon of gas, and get to watch sports, lol.

This Billie person is probably a female college student under the tutelage of Bill Ayers. Has anyone looked up their EVIL corporate tax rates? No! Well, I say they are LOWER than ours, so if we want to be as happy as they are, we need to LOWER corporate tax rates-)

The question is would you pay more in taxes for healthcare, college, and retirement. I think many would.
 
The evidence is quite compelling. This is the kind of stuff I love rubbing in republicans' faces. Repubs like to think that both they, and the US, is superior to anyone else in the world but the truth is countries like Denmark are really just laughing at them.

1) Unemployed workers get 90% of their previous salary for two years.

Denmark has a tremendous social safety net for unemployed workers — any worker who worked at least 52 weeks over a three-year period can qualify to have 90 percent of their original salary paid for, for up to two years. The Danish government also has plentiful training programs for out-of-work Danes. As a result, 73 percent of Danes between 15 and 64 have a paying job, compared to 67 percent of Americans.

2) Denmark spends far less on healthcare than the US does.

According to the Organisation for Economic Co-Operation and Development (OECD), the US spends twice as much per capita on healthcare than in Denmark, where taxpayer-funded universal healthcare is available for all citizens. 2009 OECD data shows that the U.S. spent an average of $7,290 per person on healthcare. Denmark spent just $3,512. World Bank data, as seen in the chart above, shows Danish healthcare costs are about $3,000 less per capita than in the US.

3) Denmark is the happiest place on Earth

The World Happiness Report, which determines which nation’s population is the “happiest” using criteria like life expectancy, GDP, social safety nets, as well as factors like “perception of corruption” and “freedom to make life choices,” found that Denmark was the happiest country. The US, in the meantime, ranked #17 on the same list.

4)Denmark has the shortest work week on average.

Denmark leads every other OECD nation in work-life balance. Danes work an average of 37 hours a week, earn an average of $46,000 USD annually, and have the right to 5 weeks of paid vacation per year. Here in the US, the average worker puts in an average of 47 hours a week, and only takes 16 days of vacation a year. This is largely due to a more stressful work climate, in which wages are stagnating while costs are rising. Combine that with a highly-competitive job market, and that means more Americans are willing to chain themselves to their desk then to risk taking vacation days and coming back to find someone else took their job.

5) Denmark pays students $900 per month to attend college.

Here in the US, the cost of going to college has soared by over 500 percent in the last 30 years. But in Denmark, not only is college free, but students are actually paid $900 USD per month to go to school, provided they live on their own. And this funding lasts up to six years. By contrast, the average US student pays over $31,000 a year in tuition to attend a private university, out-of-state residents at public universities pay $22,000 a year in tuition, and tuition costs for in-state residents at those same universities is still over $9,000.

6) Denmark has one of the highest per capita incomes in the world.

In Denmark, despite a short work week and a generous social safety net, workers make more than enough to meet basic needs. According to per capita income data from the World Bank, Denmark’s per capita income is roughly $5,000 higher than in the US.

7) Denmark has one of the lowest poverty rates. The US has one of the highest.

The benefits of living in Denmark are far-reaching — out of all OECD countries, Denmark has the second-lowest poverty rate at 0.6 percent. To compare, the OECD average of 11.3 percent is still lower than the 14.5 percent poverty rate in the US.

8) Denmark is rated #1 for best country for business

In 2014, Forbes ranked Denmark as the #1 best country for business.

Forbes used 11 different criteria to rank countries — innovation, property rights, red tape, taxes, investor protection, stock market performance, technology, corruption, personal freedom, freedom of trade, and monetary freedom.

Under the same criteria, the US ranked #18.

9) New parents in Denmark get 52 weeks of paid leave. US parents don't get shit.

The Danish government gives new parents an average of 52 weeks — a full year — of paid time off after having a child. Those 52 weeks can be allocated however the parents wish. In addition to the 52 weeks, new moms get 4 weeks of maternity leave before giving birth and 14 weeks after. Even new fathers get 2 additional weeks after the birth of their child. But here in the US, 1 in 4 new mothers go back to work within two weeks of having a child.

This is what Democratic Socialism really looks like. Is this the dystopian nightmare that Republicans are making it out to be, or an ideal vision of what Americans could have if we came together and demanded it from our government?


Here are 9 reasons Denmark's socialist economy leaves the US in the dust
Now to win the prize, name one significant contribution the Danish society has made to mankind in the past 50 years.
 
There's the equivalent of the federal income tax which tops out at 56% and every town city and municipality also taxes income those rates range from 20-27%

If you live in Copenhagen the municipal tax rate is 24% added to the governmental income tax. And then there's that 25% sales tax

Yeah great place to work if you want most of your money going to the fucking government to pay for lazy fucks like Billy here
And a 180% tax on cars.
 
The evidence is quite compelling. This is the kind of stuff I love rubbing in republicans' faces. Repubs like to think that both they, and the US, is superior to anyone else in the world but the truth is countries like Denmark are really just laughing at them.

1) Unemployed workers get 90% of their previous salary for two years.

Denmark has a tremendous social safety net for unemployed workers — any worker who worked at least 52 weeks over a three-year period can qualify to have 90 percent of their original salary paid for, for up to two years. The Danish government also has plentiful training programs for out-of-work Danes. As a result, 73 percent of Danes between 15 and 64 have a paying job, compared to 67 percent of Americans.

2) Denmark spends far less on healthcare than the US does.

According to the Organisation for Economic Co-Operation and Development (OECD), the US spends twice as much per capita on healthcare than in Denmark, where taxpayer-funded universal healthcare is available for all citizens. 2009 OECD data shows that the U.S. spent an average of $7,290 per person on healthcare. Denmark spent just $3,512. World Bank data, as seen in the chart above, shows Danish healthcare costs are about $3,000 less per capita than in the US.

3) Denmark is the happiest place on Earth

The World Happiness Report, which determines which nation’s population is the “happiest” using criteria like life expectancy, GDP, social safety nets, as well as factors like “perception of corruption” and “freedom to make life choices,” found that Denmark was the happiest country. The US, in the meantime, ranked #17 on the same list.

4)Denmark has the shortest work week on average.

Denmark leads every other OECD nation in work-life balance. Danes work an average of 37 hours a week, earn an average of $46,000 USD annually, and have the right to 5 weeks of paid vacation per year. Here in the US, the average worker puts in an average of 47 hours a week, and only takes 16 days of vacation a year. This is largely due to a more stressful work climate, in which wages are stagnating while costs are rising. Combine that with a highly-competitive job market, and that means more Americans are willing to chain themselves to their desk then to risk taking vacation days and coming back to find someone else took their job.

5) Denmark pays students $900 per month to attend college.

Here in the US, the cost of going to college has soared by over 500 percent in the last 30 years. But in Denmark, not only is college free, but students are actually paid $900 USD per month to go to school, provided they live on their own. And this funding lasts up to six years. By contrast, the average US student pays over $31,000 a year in tuition to attend a private university, out-of-state residents at public universities pay $22,000 a year in tuition, and tuition costs for in-state residents at those same universities is still over $9,000.

6) Denmark has one of the highest per capita incomes in the world.

In Denmark, despite a short work week and a generous social safety net, workers make more than enough to meet basic needs. According to per capita income data from the World Bank, Denmark’s per capita income is roughly $5,000 higher than in the US.

7) Denmark has one of the lowest poverty rates. The US has one of the highest.

The benefits of living in Denmark are far-reaching — out of all OECD countries, Denmark has the second-lowest poverty rate at 0.6 percent. To compare, the OECD average of 11.3 percent is still lower than the 14.5 percent poverty rate in the US.

8) Denmark is rated #1 for best country for business

In 2014, Forbes ranked Denmark as the #1 best country for business.

Forbes used 11 different criteria to rank countries — innovation, property rights, red tape, taxes, investor protection, stock market performance, technology, corruption, personal freedom, freedom of trade, and monetary freedom.

Under the same criteria, the US ranked #18.

9) New parents in Denmark get 52 weeks of paid leave. US parents don't get shit.

The Danish government gives new parents an average of 52 weeks — a full year — of paid time off after having a child. Those 52 weeks can be allocated however the parents wish. In addition to the 52 weeks, new moms get 4 weeks of maternity leave before giving birth and 14 weeks after. Even new fathers get 2 additional weeks after the birth of their child. But here in the US, 1 in 4 new mothers go back to work within two weeks of having a child.

This is what Democratic Socialism really looks like. Is this the dystopian nightmare that Republicans are making it out to be, or an ideal vision of what Americans could have if we came together and demanded it from our government?


Here are 9 reasons Denmark's socialist economy leaves the US in the dust
Now to win the prize, name one significant contribution the Danish society has made to mankind in the past 50 years.

Legos
 
The evidence is quite compelling. This is the kind of stuff I love rubbing in republicans' faces. Repubs like to think that both they, and the US, is superior to anyone else in the world but the truth is countries like Denmark are really just laughing at them.

1) Unemployed workers get 90% of their previous salary for two years.

Denmark has a tremendous social safety net for unemployed workers — any worker who worked at least 52 weeks over a three-year period can qualify to have 90 percent of their original salary paid for, for up to two years. The Danish government also has plentiful training programs for out-of-work Danes. As a result, 73 percent of Danes between 15 and 64 have a paying job, compared to 67 percent of Americans.

2) Denmark spends far less on healthcare than the US does.

According to the Organisation for Economic Co-Operation and Development (OECD), the US spends twice as much per capita on healthcare than in Denmark, where taxpayer-funded universal healthcare is available for all citizens. 2009 OECD data shows that the U.S. spent an average of $7,290 per person on healthcare. Denmark spent just $3,512. World Bank data, as seen in the chart above, shows Danish healthcare costs are about $3,000 less per capita than in the US.

3) Denmark is the happiest place on Earth

The World Happiness Report, which determines which nation’s population is the “happiest” using criteria like life expectancy, GDP, social safety nets, as well as factors like “perception of corruption” and “freedom to make life choices,” found that Denmark was the happiest country. The US, in the meantime, ranked #17 on the same list.

4)Denmark has the shortest work week on average.

Denmark leads every other OECD nation in work-life balance. Danes work an average of 37 hours a week, earn an average of $46,000 USD annually, and have the right to 5 weeks of paid vacation per year. Here in the US, the average worker puts in an average of 47 hours a week, and only takes 16 days of vacation a year. This is largely due to a more stressful work climate, in which wages are stagnating while costs are rising. Combine that with a highly-competitive job market, and that means more Americans are willing to chain themselves to their desk then to risk taking vacation days and coming back to find someone else took their job.

5) Denmark pays students $900 per month to attend college.

Here in the US, the cost of going to college has soared by over 500 percent in the last 30 years. But in Denmark, not only is college free, but students are actually paid $900 USD per month to go to school, provided they live on their own. And this funding lasts up to six years. By contrast, the average US student pays over $31,000 a year in tuition to attend a private university, out-of-state residents at public universities pay $22,000 a year in tuition, and tuition costs for in-state residents at those same universities is still over $9,000.

6) Denmark has one of the highest per capita incomes in the world.

In Denmark, despite a short work week and a generous social safety net, workers make more than enough to meet basic needs. According to per capita income data from the World Bank, Denmark’s per capita income is roughly $5,000 higher than in the US.

7) Denmark has one of the lowest poverty rates. The US has one of the highest.

The benefits of living in Denmark are far-reaching — out of all OECD countries, Denmark has the second-lowest poverty rate at 0.6 percent. To compare, the OECD average of 11.3 percent is still lower than the 14.5 percent poverty rate in the US.

8) Denmark is rated #1 for best country for business

In 2014, Forbes ranked Denmark as the #1 best country for business.

Forbes used 11 different criteria to rank countries — innovation, property rights, red tape, taxes, investor protection, stock market performance, technology, corruption, personal freedom, freedom of trade, and monetary freedom.

Under the same criteria, the US ranked #18.

9) New parents in Denmark get 52 weeks of paid leave. US parents don't get shit.

The Danish government gives new parents an average of 52 weeks — a full year — of paid time off after having a child. Those 52 weeks can be allocated however the parents wish. In addition to the 52 weeks, new moms get 4 weeks of maternity leave before giving birth and 14 weeks after. Even new fathers get 2 additional weeks after the birth of their child. But here in the US, 1 in 4 new mothers go back to work within two weeks of having a child.

This is what Democratic Socialism really looks like. Is this the dystopian nightmare that Republicans are making it out to be, or an ideal vision of what Americans could have if we came together and demanded it from our government?


Here are 9 reasons Denmark's socialist economy leaves the US in the dust
Now to win the prize, name one significant contribution the Danish society has made to mankind in the past 50 years.

Legos
I specifically said 50 years because I knew Legos were the last contribution. :biggrin:
 
They are hammered by our healthcare, education, and retirement costs now. They would benefit from the increased mobility.

So wait by raising taxes they would have more mobility?

Where do you get this shit? Denmark's income taxes are higher in every bracket than ours, every city town and municipality has it's own income tax and there is a 25% national sales tax and then all the other taxes and fees we don't know about

Let's just stick to the sales tax here. Do you really think if everyone had to pay 25% more for everything that they would have more money or less money to live on? If you have less money to live on you have less not more mobility

And their mobility is greater than ours.

proof?


Don't listen to this tripe, lol. It is just spinning by the left, making numbers work by cherry picking.

The question is simple--------------> would you rather make 100,000 a year over there, and get taxed at 56% fed rate, and 25% locally, along with paying 6 bucks a gallon of gas equivalent, or make 80,000, pay 32% fed, and 7 State, along with paying 2 bucks for a gallon of gas, and get to watch sports, lol.

This Billie person is probably a female college student under the tutelage of Bill Ayers. Has anyone looked up their EVIL corporate tax rates? No! Well, I say they are LOWER than ours, so if we want to be as happy as they are, we need to LOWER corporate tax rates-)

The question is would you pay more in taxes for healthcare, college, and retirement. I think many would.


Many can, nobody is stopping anybody! Here is the deal------------------> you are not suggesting that those who don't want to do it, you are FORCING them to do it. That is what the problem is.

It is kind of like the bathroom issue..............you are not suggesting that women let men in one of the places they need the most privacy, you are DEMANDING they do it. The whole LIBERAL shtick uses force, each and every time to FORCE capitulation. The force of the federal government through monies, or threat, to make you comply.

Consider Obamacare! We are told it is wonderful, it is great, terrific. Is that how the government convinces its citizens? NO! They FINE them, and the fine is going up. They use FORCE!

That is why the left needs to keep power, or Americans would laugh at them when they came up with 85% of the ridiculous ideas.
 
Never heard of going part time?

The first 2 years of credits can be taken anywhere and most colleges will accept the transfer.

Or you could do what some people like me did and work a full time night job and go to school during the day.

It is not impossible in fact it is very doable IF you do it

You see that is the thing... We do courses in Europe which actually mean full time...

It was impossible to do my course in university and work even a part time job.. By the way I was doing Actuarial Maths and Statistics which had an average workday of 14 hours a day..

You might have done a phone in course but people who believe in proper education know top courses need full attention..

Sorry no. I worked full time and went to school either part or full time depending on scheduling. I graduated with my first BS in the top 10% of my class. Flew through a second BS and got an MBA my diploma is the exact same one all those other kids got but mine said Cum Laude

And FYI they didn't have internet courses back then. I did take advantage of the CLEP tests

CLEP - College Level Examination Program (CLEP) -Save Time. Save Money. Take CLEP | College Board CLEP Site

Sorry man, you might have passed some course somewhere in the world...

I went to university and got an education... I grew up on a farm so I knew how to work while in university, but I didn't...

I come from a family background where you go to university for an education not a piece of paper...

Ask for your money back.

You were screwed.

You can say that to my employees or bank manager...

I happy for any of ye to try and defend the US education system over Europe's.. Europe involves next to no debt and produces better results..

I have employees on both sides of the Atlantic.. The US guys are great and I have a lot of time for them.. They say they are envious of the EU system that drastically reduces the stress while offering the best education...

And they base that on what ?

BillyFail's numbers are horsecrap.....

You can go to a Junior College for about $900 a semester in the midwest and get two years out of the way. Then off to a state school where you might pay $2500/semester. On the coasts they pay a lot more...that is only for the privalege of being an alumni.
 
Another great thing about Denmark is they produce so much food they feed more people in the World than the USA.

Link please.
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Free anything is worth exactly what you pay and is appreciated just as much.

Yes it is so bad they are the happiest country in the world.

What say we have a happiest city in the world contest....

Or happiest state....after all, about half our states could kick Denmark's ass by themselves (they are bigger).

What does that even mean?

Think about it chuckles.....

Why don't we rate states from 1 to 50 the same way. Why can't states work towards what the OP is espousing without dragging the rest of them along ?

Half our states are larger than Denmark.

The Fed collects the bulk of taxes.

Thanks for stating the obvious.

This just shows you really have no vision.
 
"The World Happiness Report, which determines which nation’s population is the “happiest” using criteria like life expectancy, GDP, social safety nets, as well as factors like “perception of corruption” and “freedom to make life choices,” found that Denmark was the happiest country. The US, in the meantime, ranked #17 on the same list."

THANK YOU! You are an outstanding FOIL, keep up the good work!

All these are typical bogus comparisons having no realism. They are frequently misused by the United Nations, run by hundreds of tin pot dictators who envy our money. Also, the information is provided by the country themselves.

Life Expectancy at birth.
This is based on heredity. Life expectancy in Denmark is nearly identical to that of Minnesota, both higher than the US average. The life expectancy of Japanese is nearly identical to that of people in Hawaii. Why do you suppose that happens?
Both Japan, Denmark, Norway and dozens of other countries are homogeneous. That means their population is made up of one race. The United State is a Multiracial country. We have millions of people of different races many of whom have shorter life expectancies than homogeneous nations.

GDP
GDP...well, look at the massive failure of Lame Duck President Barack Hussein Obama's economic policies. However, in 2015, the GDP per capita for Denmark is $51,424. For the United State: $56,421. You're wrong again.

Social Safety Nets
Easy, again the United Nations LOVES Socialist Nations, where they could get their hands on America's wealth. In the eyes of the UN, the more Socialist is a nation, they more the UN loves them.

PERCEPTION of Corruption
Well, that's easy. This is totally, 100% subjective. Much easier to keep a population of about half of New York City convinced of something than 330 MILLION. You are oh so EASY!

Freedom to make Life Choices.
Again, subjective.

Nice try.
Lol you're such doof. That metric is based on the same criteria that was used in the US. And obviously we are talking about something subjective. That's what happiness is. If is however based on objective information

Which means you either know nothing about statistics or are just lying.[/QUOTE]

As you know, only a few of the criteria are subjective.

Specifically, please show us all which criterion you deem is a lie.
 

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