911 Flight 77 "The Official Pentagon Light Pole Mower"

[PredFan]

It would have burst into flames well before the first pole hit the ground and beyond unreasonable doubt before the alleged plane hit the second pole why do you ask? How long do you think it takes?

Who says?

Why did it not happen to a Korean Air 747 which hit a light pole, knocked it down but only ended up denting its wing and no one was injured.

Korean Air 747 Hits Light Pole - NYTimes.com

at 500 mph? never happened.

we have proof however that these pole were cut in 1/2 despite the korean incident.

Yeah Legaleagle, he's right so stop confusing the issue with facts!

 

[legaleagle_45]

at 500 mph? never happened.

we have proof however that these pole were cut in 1/2 despite the korean incident.

The same force that is required knock down the lampost exists regardless of speed. Thus, if the Korean 747 knocked down a light pole it exerted the same force which the Pentagon aircraft would have had to exert. The reult for the Korean aircraft in delivering the required force was a dented wing and no injuries. A similar result would be anticipated with the Pentagon incident. Besides, I do recall someone saying this:

all it takes is one grain of sand to scrape the metal or high speed compression will reach temperatures that will ignite the fuel.

So why did not the Korean 747 wing disintegrate, and burst into a fireball killing all passengers?

 

[rightwinger]

It would have burst into flames well before the first pole hit the ground and beyond unreasonable doubt before the alleged plane hit the second pole why do you ask? How long do you think it takes?

Why would it burst into flames?

From a lightpole?

all it takes is one grain of sand to scrape the metal or high speed compression will reach temperatures that will ignite the fuel.

Looks like those lightpoles came down at freefall speeds

I'm thinking thermite

 

[PredFan]

Yes but what is entertaining is the extent certain people go to try and gloss over opening their eyes to reality.

The whole idea behind going to court is to dispose of bullshit, and that is accomplished by sorting out the inconsistencies.

The purpose being to get to the bottom of the matter and establish facts based on the merits and substance of any issue.

That is how you determine who is lying and who is telling the truth.

Do you have a better way?

Like mindlessly believe everything the government tells you?

Is that your solution?

You ignore the mountains of other evidence, and cling desperately to this one thing that you think is inconsistant. then to defend your goofy thinking you try to imply that anyone who opposes you is a mindless drone.

You aren't the first conspiracy wack-job to try this method.

OH?

Did I somehow miss your mountain of evidence. please cite it because I cannot seem to locate it.

Liar.

It's called the official report of the incident. You know what it is, you are lying.

 

[KokomoJojo]

Who says?

Why did it not happen to a Korean Air 747 which hit a light pole, knocked it down but only ended up denting its wing and no one was injured.

Korean Air 747 Hits Light Pole - NYTimes.com

at 500 mph? never happened.

we have proof however that these pole were cut in 1/2 despite the korean incident.

Yeah Legaleagle, he's right so stop confusing the issue with facts!

I try not to confuse people with facts but then you know we just cannot ignore the fact those poles were sliced in half, sorry if that bursts anyones bubble.

 

[PredFan]

at 500 mph? never happened.

we have proof however that these pole were cut in 1/2 despite the korean incident.

Yeah Legaleagle, he's right so stop confusing the issue with facts!

I try not to confuse people with facts but then you know we just cannot ignore the fact those poles were sliced in half, sorry if that bursts anyones bubble.

No one is denying that they were cut in half, we are denying that that has any meaning at all.

 

[KokomoJojo]

You ignore the mountains of other evidence, and cling desperately to this one thing that you think is inconsistant. then to defend your goofy thinking you try to imply that anyone who opposes you is a mindless drone.

You aren't the first conspiracy wack-job to try this method.

OH?

Did I somehow miss your mountain of evidence. please cite it because I cannot seem to locate it.

Liar.

It's called the official report of the incident. You know what it is, you are lying.

Oh so you think the official fantasy is like the infallible gospel and word of God eh?

well you can spend the rest of this thread trying to prove that if you wish. as long as its relevant. if not you will go in circles for a very long time.

 

[KokomoJojo]

Yeah Legaleagle, he's right so stop confusing the issue with facts!

I try not to confuse people with facts but then you know we just cannot ignore the fact those poles were sliced in half, sorry if that bursts anyones bubble.

No one is denying that they were cut in half, we are denying that that has any meaning at all.

it has meaning because it takes a LOT of power and force to cut poles that strong in half.

 

[eots]

It would have burst into flames well before the first pole hit the ground and beyond unreasonable doubt before the alleged plane hit the second pole why do you ask? How long do you think it takes?

Who says?

Why did it not happen to a Korean Air 747 which hit a light pole, knocked it down but only ended up denting its wing and no one was injured.

Korean Air 747 Hits Light Pole - NYTimes.com

it was taxiing on a runway..

 

[KokomoJojo]

It would have burst into flames well before the first pole hit the ground and beyond unreasonable doubt before the alleged plane hit the second pole why do you ask? How long do you think it takes?

Who says?

Why did it not happen to a Korean Air 747 which hit a light pole, knocked it down but only ended up denting its wing and no one was injured.

Korean Air 747 Hits Light Pole - NYTimes.com

it was taxiing on a runway..

yeh about 5 mph, the pole had plenty of time to bend and accelerate to 5mph before exceeding its yield strength.

Poles used in airports are designed to shatter when hit at the top specifically for plane impacts, and are very expensive composites to prevent sparking and damage to the planes.

The roadway poles near the pentagon are not nor are the bases designed to breakaway before the the pole yield itself was exceeded.

these people seem very confused over how these poles operate and how different poles et al are chosen for different purposes.

 

[legaleagle_45]

it was taxiing on a runway..

Yep, however the same force is required to knock over the lightpole and the same amount of resulting damage can be expected. So why did the Korean 747 burst into a ball of flames?

And why did this Southwest jet not burst into flames as well?

7NEWS - Southwest Plane Strikes Light Pole At DIA - News Story

Seems like planes knock down light poles all the time with nary a scratch and no injuries, yet somehow these light posts are SUPER LIGHTPOSTS which cause planes to burst into flames upon contact.

So where is the proof that these lightpost would have demolished the plane?

 

[Moonglow]

The light poles are made to so that if a car crashes into them they give with the force to lessen damage done to driver.

 

[legaleagle_45]

The roadway poles near the pentagon are not nor are the bases designed to breakaway before the the pole yield itself was exceeded..

Who says? I keep asking that question and you keep avoiding it.

these people seem very confused over how these poles operate and how different poles et al are chosen for different purposes.

You seem to be avoiding any substantiation of your claims. Why is that?

Please provide us with any proof that these poles were not designed to break away and that they would cause a plane to burst into flames upon contact, which would cause the plane to stop in its tracks and not hit the Pentagon.

Can you provide a link to a single incident where a large commercial aircraft struck a light pole causing it to burst into flames and drop to the ground immediately without going another 100 meters?

 

[legaleagle_45]

Top Gun hits lamppost.. going 600 mph... no injury:

AN RAF Top Gun pilot was facing the high jump last night — for flying so low he hit a lamppost. The ace clipped the airbase light at 54ft with a wing tip on his Jaguar attack jet while doing 600mph.

He wrestled control of the crippled single-seater and headed straight out to sea from the coastal base in Cyprus.

Ground crews went into a full-scale emergency — but the pilot swooped round over the Med and headed back to base before slamming the plane on a runway.

RAF police immediately impounded the £25million Jaguar and the ace was grounded pending an investigation.

He faces an official carpeting and court martial, which could cost him his wings.

Top Gun hits lamppost | The Sun |News

Court martial? He should be dead and his plane should be a fireball!

 

[Rat in the Hat]

This thread is silly. Everyone knows the Pentagon was hit by an A-6 Skyhawk painted to look like a cruise missile that was painted to look like an American Airlines 757.

 

[KokomoJojo]

This thread is silly. Everyone knows the Pentagon was hit by an A-6 Skyhawk painted to look like a cruise missile that was painted to look like an American Airlines 757.

nah something with that many paint jobs wouldnt even be able to fly!

 

[legaleagle_45]

Two Royal Canadian Air Force members who came here from Ottawa 10 days ago to assist in a topographical survey of Nova Scotia escaped injury today when their plane sheared off a lamp post while landing at the Hallifax City Airport. The two were J. E. Deane and J. M. Dexter.
The plane was only slightly damaged.

The Montreal Gazette - Google News Archive Search

So why was the plane only slightly damaged? It should have burst into a fireball and disintegrated

 

[Rat in the Hat]

This thread is silly. Everyone knows the Pentagon was hit by an A-6 Skyhawk painted to look like a cruise missile that was painted to look like an American Airlines 757.

nah something with that many paint jobs wouldnt even be able to fly!

Following acquisitions, United has some planes with 7 different paint jobs.

Flying with 3 would be a snick.

 

[KokomoJojo]

Top Gun hits lamppost.. going 600 mph... no injury:

AN RAF Top Gun pilot was facing the high jump last night — for flying so low he hit a lamppost. The ace clipped the airbase light at 54ft with a wing tip on his Jaguar attack jet while doing 600mph.

He wrestled control of the crippled single-seater and headed straight out to sea from the coastal base in Cyprus.

Ground crews went into a full-scale emergency — but the pilot swooped round over the Med and headed back to base before slamming the plane on a runway.

RAF police immediately impounded the £25million Jaguar and the ace was grounded pending an investigation.

He faces an official carpeting and court martial, which could cost him his wings.

Top Gun hits lamppost | The Sun |News

Court martial? He should be dead and his plane should be a fireball!

no not necesarily, if he just clipped it with the wingtip it may have been outside the fuel tanks in the vent area.

However the articl goes on to say it did clip that portion of the wing off, got video?

 

[KokomoJojo]

Two Royal Canadian Air Force members who came here from Ottawa 10 days ago to assist in a topographical survey of Nova Scotia escaped injury today when their plane sheared off a lamp post while landing at the Hallifax City Airport. The two were J. E. Deane and J. M. Dexter.
The plane was only slightly damaged.

The Montreal Gazette - Google News Archive Search

So why was the plane only slightly damaged? It should have burst into a fireball and disintegrated

got video? anything more than "plane hit"