93% of hospital executives think Obamacare will make health care better

[P@triot]

Salvatore Aversa: "The Republican Party can yell and scream about Obamacare all they want, but there is something that is not being explained. If the hospitals want it because it will reduce their costs, insurance companies want it because it will increase their customer base, and the American public wants it so they no longer have to worry about medical emergencies, who exactly are they trying to protect from it? Or is it they are simply looking for something to attack President Obama on?"

93 percent of hospital executives think Obamacare will make health care better

by Ezra Klein
December 19, 2013

Hospital executives think health reform is going to make the health care they deliver a whole lot better -- and a bit cheaper:

Fully 65 percent indicated that by 2020, they believe the healthcare system as a whole will be somewhat or significantly better than it is today. And when they were asked about their own institutions, the optimism was even more dramatic. Fully 93 percent predicted that the quality of care provided by their own health system would improve. This is probably related to efforts to diminish hospital acquired conditions, medication errors, and unnecessary re-admissions, as encouraged by financial penalties in the ACA.​

Oh, of course they do [MENTION=19031]Star[/MENTION]. Well, when 5 "executives" who just happen to be registered Dumbocrats are polled that is.

However, back in the real world (ie the world that doesn't believe in communist propaganda) this is what is actually occurring. Now normally I wouldn't explain this as the Cleveland Clinic is one of the most powerful and famous healthcare systems in the world (right up there with the Mayo Clinic, John Hopkins, etc.) - but your fellow Dumbocrat [MENTION=25283]Sallow[/MENTION] actually thought that because it had the name "clinic" in it, the Cleveland Clinic was a tiny "Planned Parenthood" clinic renting office space from a commercial structure and making all of its money from Medicaid...

The Cleveland Clinic is one of the most powerful hospitals in the world and actually hosted Barack Obama during his healthcare reform campaign on multiple occassions because they supported him and the bill so much. Look how much their executives "support" Obamacare...

Citing Obamacare, Cleveland Clinic to Cut $300M, Warns of Layoffs - US News and World Report​

 

[The Rabbi]

Yeah, a "survey" of 74 executives that proceeds mostly by anecdote really isnt very revealing, except of the desperation of the Dems to spin some kind of success.

 

[hangover]

93% of hospital executives think Obamacare will make health care better

Cons are scared to death of that. That's why they've been feverishly demonizing it, because once the public realizes it, the cons will be exposed as the assholes they are. Should be evident by the 14' election. But that won't stop the cons from beating that dead horse.

 

[Meister]

93% of hospital executives think Obamacare will make health care better

Cons are scared to death of that. That's why they've been feverishly demonizing it, because once the public realizes it, the cons will be exposed as the assholes they are. Should be evident by the 14' election. But that won't stop the cons from beating that dead horse.

Maybe if you looked at all the facts of what the hospitals are actually saying, along with opting out of obummercare. Also, you act like it's just the cons that have a problem with Obamacare....that just isn't true, but I know you probably are fully subsidized by it along with your unemployment checks. You're making out pretty good being a submissive under your messiah's nanny care.

 

[Lovebears65]

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Salvatore Aversa: "The Republican Party can yell and scream about Obamacare all they want, but there is something that is not being explained. If the hospitals want it because it will reduce their costs, insurance companies want it because it will increase their customer base, and the American public wants it so they no longer have to worry about medical emergencies, who exactly are they trying to protect from it? Or is it they are simply looking for something to attack President Obama on?"




93 percent of hospital executives think Obamacare will make health care better

by Ezra Klein
December 19, 2013

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Hospital executives think health reform is going to make the health care they deliver a whole lot better -- and a bit cheaper:

Fully 65 percent indicated that by 2020, they believe the healthcare system as a whole will be somewhat or significantly better than it is today. And when they were asked about their own institutions, the optimism was even more dramatic. Fully 93 percent predicted that the quality of care provided by their own health system would improve. This is probably related to efforts to diminish hospital acquired conditions, medication errors, and unnecessary re-admissions, as encouraged by financial penalties in the ACA.
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A hospital exec is about the money not the treatment. Doctors feel differently from what I am hearing from the doctors I see

 

[Iceman]

93% of hospital executives think Obamacare will make health care better

Cons are scared to death of that. That's why they've been feverishly demonizing it, because once the public realizes it, the cons will be exposed as the assholes they are. Should be evident by the 14' election. But that won't stop the cons from beating that dead horse.

I wouldn't be scared of this poll at all. All it shows is hospital execs like Obamacare because they are going to make more money due to free government money.

They are money grubbing bastards that don't care about their patients, just their wallets.

 

[koshergrl]

The OP is a piece of propaganda. When are you people going to stop believing this shit?

 

[Delta4Embassy]

You realize being kosher's about more than just dietary restrictions right? It's about not using naughty woids. (waggles finger scoldingly) Wanna get someone's attention making a point try these instead: crud, crappola, bovine excrement, etc. Things draw the reader's attention more if the first thing they think isn't "language!" If it is, then your point will fade to the background, and the expletive will move to the foreground. (science of reader attention.)

 

[william the wie]

I'm sick of insurance companies making enormous profits on the backs of the little guy. With ObamaCare, they are forced to spend 80% of premiums on actual patient care. That's why we got the two refunds.

Wait for the Obama insurance bailouts ...still to come

the funding for that can't pass the house without add-ons Obama won't sign off on.

 

[koshergrl]

You realize being kosher's about more than just dietary restrictions right? It's about not using naughty woids. (waggles finger scoldingly) Wanna get someone's attention making a point try these instead: crud, crappola, bovine excrement, etc. Things draw the reader's attention more if the first thing they think isn't "language!" If it is, then your point will fade to the background, and the expletive will move to the foreground. (science of reader attention.)

My points rarely fade, but thanks for the tiresome prating all the same.

 

[P@triot]

93% of hospital executives think Obamacare will make health care better

Cons are scared to death of that. That's why they've been feverishly demonizing it, because once the public realizes it, the cons will be exposed as the assholes they are. Should be evident by the 14' election. But that won't stop the cons from beating that dead horse.

Is that the latest Dumbocrat code-word for reality or facts - "demonize"? Let me guess, this FACT below is "demonizing" [MENTION=45484]hangover[/MENTION]?

Citing Obamacare, Cleveland Clinic to Cut $300M, Warns of Layoffs - US News and World Report

 

[healthmyths]

I'm sick of insurance companies making enormous profits on the backs of the little guy. With ObamaCare, they are forced to spend 80% of premiums on actual patient care. That's why we got the two refunds.

Then don't purchase insurance...problem solved
You see this folks, with OScam they are FORCED to spend money

what country did you think you were living in again?

People like luddy is the reason you are LOSING your freedoms in this country

they are forced to spend 80% of premiums on actual patient care

that gives them a pretty good profit margin

however spending 80 percent of the premium really does

not amke a reflection on the services provided

ARE YOU NUTS????
Do you understand! 80% leaves 20% BEFORE profit!
Then you have operating costs oh...like say salaries, benefits, buildings, computers, paper, Internet access.. simple things called COST OF DOING BUSINESS@!@@
That leaves as the experts tell us less then 4% net profits! AND THIS IS BEFORE FEDERAL/STATE/LOCAL taxes dumb f...k!!!

Why is it so hard to understand! Insurance companies simply pay the claims!

The margin for health insurance companies hovers at about 3% generally.
It is a rank of about 88 among 215 industries as far as profit margins go.

I just can't believe people like you having so little knowledge which is a total indictment of your education system!


Profit Margin for Health Insurance Companies |

 

[P@triot]

Salvatore Aversa: "The Republican Party can yell and scream about Obamacare all they want, but there is something that is not being explained. If the hospitals want it because it will reduce their costs, insurance companies want it because it will increase their customer base, and the American public wants it so they no longer have to worry about medical emergencies, who exactly are they trying to protect from it? Or is it they are simply looking for something to attack President Obama on?"

93 percent of hospital executives think Obamacare will make health care better

by Ezra Klein
December 19, 2013

Hospital executives think health reform is going to make the health care they deliver a whole lot better -- and a bit cheaper:

Fully 65 percent indicated that by 2020, they believe the healthcare system as a whole will be somewhat or significantly better than it is today. And when they were asked about their own institutions, the optimism was even more dramatic. Fully 93 percent predicted that the quality of care provided by their own health system would improve. This is probably related to efforts to diminish hospital acquired conditions, medication errors, and unnecessary re-admissions, as encouraged by financial penalties in the ACA.
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A hospital exec is about the money not the treatment. Doctors feel differently from what I am hearing from the doctors I see

I've got news for you LB - the executives don't like it either. The Dumbocrats are getting slaughtered on this (even the most prominent Dems are calling for Obamacare to be shelved), so they desperately need propaganda articles like this where they poll 5 registered Dumbocrats to get the exact "results" they intended to get.

But back in reality, are the executives from the Cleveland Clinic (the organization which worshipped and supported Obama) acknowledging the devastating affects of Obamacare in the real world:

Citing Obamacare, Cleveland Clinic to Cut $300M, Warns of Layoffs - US News and World Report

 

[Vox]

Then don't purchase insurance...problem solved
You see this folks, with OScam they are FORCED to spend money

what country did you think you were living in again?

People like luddy is the reason you are LOSING your freedoms in this country

they are forced to spend 80% of premiums on actual patient care

that gives them a pretty good profit margin

however spending 80 percent of the premium really does

not amke a reflection on the services provided

ARE YOU NUTS????
Do you understand! 80% leaves 20% BEFORE profit!
Then you have operating costs oh...like say salaries, benefits, buildings, computers, paper, Internet access.. simple things called COST OF DOING BUSINESS@!@@
That leaves as the experts tell us less then 4% net profits! AND THIS IS BEFORE FEDERAL/STATE/LOCAL taxes dumb f...k!!!

Why is it so hard to understand! Insurance companies simply pay the claims!

The margin for health insurance companies hovers at about 3% generally.
It is a rank of about 88 among 215 industries as far as profit margins go.

I just can't believe people like you having so little knowledge which is a total indictment of your education system!


Profit Margin for Health Insurance Companies |

you are getting too emotional here.

First of all insurance companies are the biggest winners of this crap - the law forces people to pay insurance companies for NOTHING as the monthly premium does not cover ANYTHING valuable for a standard person and all the coverage by insurance company which they are getting monthly premiums for are starting after the person spends 6.000-25.000 per year( depends on the plan).

you are telling me that is spending 80% on the medical care of the patient?

 

[The Rabbi]

Then don't purchase insurance...problem solved
You see this folks, with OScam they are FORCED to spend money

what country did you think you were living in again?

People like luddy is the reason you are LOSING your freedoms in this country

they are forced to spend 80% of premiums on actual patient care

that gives them a pretty good profit margin

however spending 80 percent of the premium really does

not amke a reflection on the services provided

ARE YOU NUTS????
Do you understand! 80% leaves 20% BEFORE profit!
Then you have operating costs oh...like say salaries, benefits, buildings, computers, paper, Internet access.. simple things called COST OF DOING BUSINESS@!@@
That leaves as the experts tell us less then 4% net profits! AND THIS IS BEFORE FEDERAL/STATE/LOCAL taxes dumb f...k!!!

Why is it so hard to understand! Insurance companies simply pay the claims!

The margin for health insurance companies hovers at about 3% generally.
It is a rank of about 88 among 215 industries as far as profit margins go.

I just can't believe people like you having so little knowledge which is a total indictment of your education system!


Profit Margin for Health Insurance Companies |

You're dealing with people who couldn't explain gross margin, net margin, overhead or markup if their lives depended on it. And that includes the members of Obama's cabinet and Obama himself.

 

[The Rabbi]

they are forced to spend 80% of premiums on actual patient care

that gives them a pretty good profit margin

however spending 80 percent of the premium really does

not amke a reflection on the services provided

ARE YOU NUTS????
Do you understand! 80% leaves 20% BEFORE profit!
Then you have operating costs oh...like say salaries, benefits, buildings, computers, paper, Internet access.. simple things called COST OF DOING BUSINESS@!@@
That leaves as the experts tell us less then 4% net profits! AND THIS IS BEFORE FEDERAL/STATE/LOCAL taxes dumb f...k!!!

Why is it so hard to understand! Insurance companies simply pay the claims!

The margin for health insurance companies hovers at about 3% generally.
It is a rank of about 88 among 215 industries as far as profit margins go.

I just can't believe people like you having so little knowledge which is a total indictment of your education system!


Profit Margin for Health Insurance Companies |

you are getting too emotional here.

First of all insurance companies are the biggest winners of this crap - the law forces people to pay insurance companies for NOTHING as the monthly premium does not cover ANYTHING valuable for a standard person and all the coverage by insurance company which they are getting monthly premiums for are starting after the person spends 6.000-25.000 per year( depends on the plan).

you are telling me that is spending 80% on the medical care of the patient?

No, the monthly premium covers insurance for health-care claims for the policy period.
Second, insurers will be the biggest losers, as their calculations were based on a certain mix in their actuarial pools, a mix that isn't happening.
Do you actually understand how insurance works?

 

[P@triot]

Then don't purchase insurance...problem solved
You see this folks, with OScam they are FORCED to spend money

what country did you think you were living in again?

People like luddy is the reason you are LOSING your freedoms in this country

they are forced to spend 80% of premiums on actual patient care

that gives them a pretty good profit margin

however spending 80 percent of the premium really does

not amke a reflection on the services provided

ARE YOU NUTS????
Do you understand! 80% leaves 20% BEFORE profit!
Then you have operating costs oh...like say salaries, benefits, buildings, computers, paper, Internet access.. simple things called COST OF DOING BUSINESS@!@@
That leaves as the experts tell us less then 4% net profits! AND THIS IS BEFORE FEDERAL/STATE/LOCAL taxes dumb f...k!!!

Why is it so hard to understand! Insurance companies simply pay the claims!

The margin for health insurance companies hovers at about 3% generally.
It is a rank of about 88 among 215 industries as far as profit margins go.

I just can't believe people like you having so little knowledge which is a total indictment of your education system!

Profit Margin for Health Insurance Companies |

I can! About 98% of the people on USMB have no knowledge about what they are commenting on (case in point, Sallow actually said the Constitution is not the law and that the Cleveland Clinic was a Planned Parenthood clinic which generated most of it's revenue from Medicaid).

 

[The Rabbi]

I can! About 98% of the people on USMB have no knowledge about what they are commenting on (case in point, Sallow actually said the Constitution is not the law and that the Cleveland Clinic was a Planned Parenthood clinic which generated most of it's revenue from Medicaid).

I find it mostly on the Left but more conservative posters have been known not to have a good grasp of facts periodically.

 

[dblack]

ARE YOU NUTS????
Do you understand! 80% leaves 20% BEFORE profit!
Then you have operating costs oh...like say salaries, benefits, buildings, computers, paper, Internet access.. simple things called COST OF DOING BUSINESS@!@@
That leaves as the experts tell us less then 4% net profits! AND THIS IS BEFORE FEDERAL/STATE/LOCAL taxes dumb f...k!!!

Why is it so hard to understand! Insurance companies simply pay the claims!

The margin for health insurance companies hovers at about 3% generally.
It is a rank of about 88 among 215 industries as far as profit margins go.

I just can't believe people like you having so little knowledge which is a total indictment of your education system!


Profit Margin for Health Insurance Companies |

you are getting too emotional here.

First of all insurance companies are the biggest winners of this crap - the law forces people to pay insurance companies for NOTHING as the monthly premium does not cover ANYTHING valuable for a standard person and all the coverage by insurance company which they are getting monthly premiums for are starting after the person spends 6.000-25.000 per year( depends on the plan).

you are telling me that is spending 80% on the medical care of the patient?

No, the monthly premium covers insurance for health-care claims for the policy period.
Second, insurers will be the biggest losers, as their calculations were based on a certain mix in their actuarial pools, a mix that isn't happening.
Do you actually understand how insurance works?

The "product" created by ACA isn't insurance.

 

[The Rabbi]

you are getting too emotional here.

First of all insurance companies are the biggest winners of this crap - the law forces people to pay insurance companies for NOTHING as the monthly premium does not cover ANYTHING valuable for a standard person and all the coverage by insurance company which they are getting monthly premiums for are starting after the person spends 6.000-25.000 per year( depends on the plan).

you are telling me that is spending 80% on the medical care of the patient?

No, the monthly premium covers insurance for health-care claims for the policy period.
Second, insurers will be the biggest losers, as their calculations were based on a certain mix in their actuarial pools, a mix that isn't happening.
Do you actually understand how insurance works?

The "product" created by ACA isn't insurance.

Depends on what you mean. ACA regulates insurance, it doesnt create it.