A 7-Day Workweek Could Soon Be Legal in Wisconsin

[Rozman]

I know Nancy Pelosi loves 30 hr work weeks so people can focus on their true loves like knitting or writing poetry
or contemplating their navel.


During an interview on CNN’s “State of the Union,” host Candy Crowley read Pelosi part of a letter signed by union goon James Hoffa Jr. that described Obamacare’s impact on employers as a way to “destroy the foundation of the 40-hour work week.” ...

Some parts of Obamacare need to be clarified, she acknowledged, but losing that 40-hour work week will really free Americans to “pursue your happiness … follow your passion.”

“Overwhelmingly, for the American people, this is a liberation,” the San Francisco millionaire said dreamily, possibly confusing “the American people” who have to make a living with her fellow guests at George Soros’s wedding Saturday in New York.

 

[Freewill]

I worked 7 days a week for 12 hours for months this law seems like a whining ass liberal law that serves no function. If the workers don't like their working conditions then form a Union don't let the government be the Union for them.

 

[Muhammed]

Construction workers do 7 12's all the time....................Stop your whining............

Construction workers are faced with feast or famine. Further, undocumented workers lower the wages. Sometimes eagle, you have to get off your ass and say something even if it doesn't directly effect you.

I'm a cement mason.

Could you explain why you think the number of days per week that I work should be any of your fucking business?

 

[Missourian]

Wait a sec

The government is increasing the work week, it is not allowing the workers to decide between a 5 day, 6 day or 7 day work week!

There is no choice here by the worker. If the employer assign you a 5 day work week, you work that schedule and then can ask for extra hours

If the employer assign you a 7 day work week, you work those 7 days without choice. You risked termination if you "chose" to work 6 days or less.

Keep in mind, not every worker is asking for 7 days of work. Some will, others won't. The Bill forces everyone onto a 7 day week at the employers discretion.(If it is a 7 day week by law, is there any overtime? Overtime comes into play when you work beyond the alloted time, hence a 7 day work week will not have over time unless you stay longer each day!)

To allow "choice" you keep the 5 day work week and create an employee/employer worker agreement about extra hours/days.

See, this is why Unions came into being. A 7 day work week by State Law will only give incentives for the rise of Unions.

P.S. WI minimum wage is currently 7.25. There is a movement to increase it to 10.10

That's wrong.
If an employee doesnt want to work 7 days he can quit and find a job that will allow him to work whatever he wants. Not every employer will want to run 7 days. But currently if someone wants to work 7 days he cannot. That is unfair.

And that is the spirit of this action.
It's not mandating a 7 day work week.
It's only allowing it to be attainable.

I might be scheduled 6 days, but Jim only wants 5 days.
Now there's no law preventing my boss from giving me that extra day

I get the impression that no one on the left has ever actually held a job.

When I was working hourly, I would have killed for double overtime.

You got overtime due to the 5day/40 hour work week and talking to your Boss for the extra hours yes?

How many hours of overtime would you have if it is a 7 day work week?
Remember, you work 8 hour days.

Anything over 40 hours is time and half, so two eight hour days would be the equivalent of being paid for eight days work, but only working seven days.

My last hourly job paid $13 an hour, $520 a week. If I only worked the weekend...that would be an extra $312 in my pocket.

Do you think you could find something to do with an extra half a weeks check?

I know that when I was struggling, I sure could have.

 

[amrchaos]

If an employee doesnt want to work 7 days he can quit and find a job that will allow him to work whatever he wants

Thanks for saying that because you have made my point. Increasing the work week does not give the laborer the choice of working 7 days--he is forced to or fired.

Threatening to fire someone doesn't force them to do anything.

I seriously doubt many employers would want this law passed since they are able to accommodate without it for decades. So I think the law is really pro-capitalist/anti-corporatist bullshit. The corporatist entities involved(employers, laborer) are not clamoring for this. It is the ideological capitalists that are.

And this is EXACTLY the point. Corporatism is the single most insidious threat to individual freedom.

It is when the corporations are threatened.

For instance--free trade, increase competition, you know the things the capitalist ideologues love? Threatens the survivability of native manufactures.

Illegal immigration--Do you know there is so much? Because native business are catching hell trying to compete with foreign companies. By cutting labor costs, they can barely compete.

Why do American corporations flood DC with lobbiest--not just for favors, it is to prevent lawmakers from passing more stupid laws that would jeopardize their businesses.

Yes, damn right corporatism is insidious--towards those who try to undermined it.

 

[amrchaos]

Wait a sec

The government is increasing the work week, it is not allowing the workers to decide between a 5 day, 6 day or 7 day work week!

There is no choice here by the worker. If the employer assign you a 5 day work week, you work that schedule and then can ask for extra hours

If the employer assign you a 7 day work week, you work those 7 days without choice. You risked termination if you "chose" to work 6 days or less.

Keep in mind, not every worker is asking for 7 days of work. Some will, others won't. The Bill forces everyone onto a 7 day week at the employers discretion.(If it is a 7 day week by law, is there any overtime? Overtime comes into play when you work beyond the alloted time, hence a 7 day work week will not have over time unless you stay longer each day!)

To allow "choice" you keep the 5 day work week and create an employee/employer worker agreement about extra hours/days.

See, this is why Unions came into being. A 7 day work week by State Law will only give incentives for the rise of Unions.

P.S. WI minimum wage is currently 7.25. There is a movement to increase it to 10.10

That's wrong.
If an employee doesnt want to work 7 days he can quit and find a job that will allow him to work whatever he wants. Not every employer will want to run 7 days. But currently if someone wants to work 7 days he cannot. That is unfair.

And that is the spirit of this action.
It's not mandating a 7 day work week.
It's only allowing it to be attainable.

I might be scheduled 6 days, but Jim only wants 5 days.
Now there's no law preventing my boss from giving me that extra day

I get the impression that no one on the left has ever actually held a job.

When I was working hourly, I would have killed for double overtime.

You got overtime due to the 5day/40 hour work week and talking to your Boss for the extra hours yes?

How many hours of overtime would you have if it is a 7 day work week?
Remember, you work 8 hour days.

Anything over 40 hours is time and half, so two eight hour days would be the equivalent of being paid for eight days work, but only working seven days.

My last hourly job paid $13 an hour, $520 a week. If I only worked the weekend...that would be an extra $312 in my pocket.

Do you think you could find something to do with an extra half a weeks check?

I know that when I was struggling, I sure could have.

That is the calculatin for a 5 day/40 hour work week
If you like that, keep the 5 day work week!!

There is no indication of change in hours during the 7 day work week. So it is best to assume a 56 hour work wk without over time unless stated. Also, it can still force workers to work days they may not wish to.

For the employer
Simply give the extra hours to those who want them. Hire temps if you need them. Don't force your employee hands because you will lose your best employees from this.

 

[dblack]

If an employee doesnt want to work 7 days he can quit and find a job that will allow him to work whatever he wants

Thanks for saying that because you have made my point. Increasing the work week does not give the laborer the choice of working 7 days--he is forced to or fired.

Threatening to fire someone doesn't force them to do anything.

I seriously doubt many employers would want this law passed since they are able to accommodate without it for decades. So I think the law is really pro-capitalist/anti-corporatist bullshit. The corporatist entities involved(employers, laborer) are not clamoring for this. It is the ideological capitalists that are.

And this is EXACTLY the point. Corporatism is the single most insidious threat to individual freedom.

It is when the corporations are threatened.

For instance--free trade, increase competition, you know the things the capitalist ideologues love? Threatens the survivability of native manufactures.

Illegal immigration--Do you know there is so much? Because native business are catching hell trying to compete with foreign companies. By cutting labor costs, they can barely compete.

Why do American corporations flood DC with lobbiest--not just for favors, it is to prevent lawmakers from passing more stupid laws that would jeopardize their businesses.

Yes, damn right corporatism is insidious--towards those who try to undermined it.

Can you rephrase that, preferably in rationally constructed sentences? What are you trying to say?

 

[hortysir]

Wait a sec

The government is increasing the work week, it is not allowing the workers to decide between a 5 day, 6 day or 7 day work week!

There is no choice here by the worker. If the employer assign you a 5 day work week, you work that schedule and then can ask for extra hours

If the employer assign you a 7 day work week, you work those 7 days without choice. You risked termination if you "chose" to work 6 days or less.

Keep in mind, not every worker is asking for 7 days of work. Some will, others won't. The Bill forces everyone onto a 7 day week at the employers discretion.(If it is a 7 day week by law, is there any overtime? Overtime comes into play when you work beyond the alloted time, hence a 7 day work week will not have over time unless you stay longer each day!)

To allow "choice" you keep the 5 day work week and create an employee/employer worker agreement about extra hours/days.

See, this is why Unions came into being. A 7 day work week by State Law will only give incentives for the rise of Unions.

P.S. WI minimum wage is currently 7.25. There is a movement to increase it to 10.10

That's wrong.
If an employee doesnt want to work 7 days he can quit and find a job that will allow him to work whatever he wants. Not every employer will want to run 7 days. But currently if someone wants to work 7 days he cannot. That is unfair.

And that is the spirit of this action.
It's not mandating a 7 day work week.
It's only allowing it to be attainable.

I might be scheduled 6 days, but Jim only wants 5 days.
Now there's no law preventing my boss from giving me that extra day

I get the impression that no one on the left has ever actually held a job.

When I was working hourly, I would have killed for double overtime.

You got overtime due to the 5day/40 hour work week and talking to your Boss for the extra hours yes?

How many hours of overtime would you have if it is a 7 day work week?
Remember, you work 8 hour days.

Anything over 40 hours is time and half, so two eight hour days would be the equivalent of being paid for eight days work, but only working seven days.

My last hourly job paid $13 an hour, $520 a week. If I only worked the weekend...that would be an extra $312 in my pocket.

Do you think you could find something to do with an extra half a weeks check?

I know that when I was struggling, I sure could have.

That is the calculatin for a 5 day/40 hour work week
If you like that, keep the 5 day work week!!

There is no indication of change in hours during the 7 day work week. So it is best to assume a 56 hour work wk without over time unless stated. Also, it can still force workers to work days they may not wish to.

For the employer
Simply give the extra hours to those who want them. Hire temps if you need them. Don't force your employee hands because you will lose your best employees from this.

No one has advocated forcing the workers to work 7 days.
The repeal makes it so people CAN work more then 5

 

[dblack]

Fuck it. Let's just all work for the government.

 

[dblack]

Then we can vote ourselves raises, and benefits, and blowjobs.

 

[Two Thumbs]

for the ignorant

this law only affects jobs that have seasonal surges

like christmas, yaknow when tons of people order tons of useless shit...

If the crap you buy doesn't get to the stores the next person can't buy it.

No company can or will attempt for make anyone work 7 days a week year around b/c they wouldn't be able to hire anyone.

this is just more ignorant leftist crying over nothing, well, the lose of government tyranny hurts you pussies, but suck it up

Because you say so. Because every company is on the up and up.

how dumb are you?

no really, how dumb do you have to be to think that a company that made people work 365 days a year could keep a single person?

It boggles the mind just trying to fathom how dumb you have to be.

 

[dblack]

for the ignorant

this law only affects jobs that have seasonal surges

like christmas, yaknow when tons of people order tons of useless shit...

If the crap you buy doesn't get to the stores the next person can't buy it.

No company can or will attempt for make anyone work 7 days a week year around b/c they wouldn't be able to hire anyone.

this is just more ignorant leftist crying over nothing, well, the lose of government tyranny hurts you pussies, but suck it up

Because you say so. Because every company is on the up and up.

how dumb are you?

no really, how dumb do you have to be to think that a company that made people work 365 days a year could keep a single person?

It boggles the mind just trying to fathom how dumb you have to be.

Dumb enough to think that government is the only thing that could save you from such an atrocity.

 

[The Rabbi]

Wait a sec

The government is increasing the work week, it is not allowing the workers to decide between a 5 day, 6 day or 7 day work week!

There is no choice here by the worker. If the employer assign you a 5 day work week, you work that schedule and then can ask for extra hours

If the employer assign you a 7 day work week, you work those 7 days without choice. You risked termination if you "chose" to work 6 days or less.

Keep in mind, not every worker is asking for 7 days of work. Some will, others won't. The Bill forces everyone onto a 7 day week at the employers discretion.(If it is a 7 day week by law, is there any overtime? Overtime comes into play when you work beyond the alloted time, hence a 7 day work week will not have over time unless you stay longer each day!)

To allow "choice" you keep the 5 day work week and create an employee/employer worker agreement about extra hours/days.

See, this is why Unions came into being. A 7 day work week by State Law will only give incentives for the rise of Unions.

P.S. WI minimum wage is currently 7.25. There is a movement to increase it to 10.10

That's wrong.
If an employee doesnt want to work 7 days he can quit and find a job that will allow him to work whatever he wants. Not every employer will want to run 7 days. But currently if someone wants to work 7 days he cannot. That is unfair.

If an employee doesnt want to work 7 days he can quit and find a job that will allow him to work whatever he wants

Thanks for saying that because you have made my point. Increasing the work week does not give the laborer the choice of working 7 days--he is forced to or fired(He can refuse to quit, Horty. What will the employer do then? Fire the worker). Also note, that depending on skill, he will find other employers trying to exercise the 7 day week--so he has to leave the state if he wants a 5 day week.

No choice--thank you Big Government Republican for sticking your nose into a 'problem' that does not exist!

I seriously doubt many employers would want this law passed since they are able to accommodate without it for decades. So I think the law is really pro-capitalist/anti-corporatist bullshit. The corporatist entities involved(employers, laborer) are not clamoring for this. It is the ideological capitalists that are.

You clearly dont know what you are talking about.
The Big Government is the one that mandated 6 day work weeks to begin with. Other states have no such requirement. Do you think everyone in those other states is working 7 days a week?

 

[The Rabbi]

for the ignorant

this law only affects jobs that have seasonal surges

like christmas, yaknow when tons of people order tons of useless shit...

If the crap you buy doesn't get to the stores the next person can't buy it.

No company can or will attempt for make anyone work 7 days a week year around b/c they wouldn't be able to hire anyone.

this is just more ignorant leftist crying over nothing, well, the lose of government tyranny hurts you pussies, but suck it up

Because you say so. Because every company is on the up and up.

how dumb are you?

no really, how dumb do you have to be to think that a company that made people work 365 days a year could keep a single person?

It boggles the mind just trying to fathom how dumb you have to be.

Someone here questioned whether libs ever held a job in their lives. I have to echo that question. It's like they've heard about the working world but never actually existed in it before. So they have to imagine a lot. In their imagination bosses are these mean grumpy people with whips and employees are these scared dopes who can't tell which of two numbers is higher and have no options other than their present job.
People who have actually worked know that isnt remotely close to true.

 

[Two Thumbs]

for the ignorant

this law only affects jobs that have seasonal surges

like christmas, yaknow when tons of people order tons of useless shit...

If the crap you buy doesn't get to the stores the next person can't buy it.

No company can or will attempt for make anyone work 7 days a week year around b/c they wouldn't be able to hire anyone.

this is just more ignorant leftist crying over nothing, well, the lose of government tyranny hurts you pussies, but suck it up

Because you say so. Because every company is on the up and up.

how dumb are you?

no really, how dumb do you have to be to think that a company that made people work 365 days a year could keep a single person?

It boggles the mind just trying to fathom how dumb you have to be.

Dumb enough to think that government is the only thing that could save you from such an atrocity.

I've worked a 7 day week and was glad for it, since Xmas was coming.
I was able to get my kids some nice things (nothing nuts) have plenty of food, etc. AND I was able to put away money for the slow season when we don't get 40hrs.

dumb fucking people think we need to law, pfft, just a loss of money that could go to hire more people.

 

[Two Thumbs]

for the ignorant

this law only affects jobs that have seasonal surges

like christmas, yaknow when tons of people order tons of useless shit...

If the crap you buy doesn't get to the stores the next person can't buy it.

No company can or will attempt for make anyone work 7 days a week year around b/c they wouldn't be able to hire anyone.

this is just more ignorant leftist crying over nothing, well, the lose of government tyranny hurts you pussies, but suck it up

Because you say so. Because every company is on the up and up.

how dumb are you?

no really, how dumb do you have to be to think that a company that made people work 365 days a year could keep a single person?

It boggles the mind just trying to fathom how dumb you have to be.

Someone here questioned whether libs ever held a job in their lives. I have to echo that question. It's like they've heard about the working world but never actually existed in it before. So they have to imagine a lot. In their imagination bosses are these mean grumpy people with whips and employees are these scared dopes who can't tell which of two numbers is higher and have no options other than their present job.
People who have actually worked know that isnt remotely close to true.

They watch movies and assume that that is common since it's common in movies.

The reality is it's really expensive and time consuming to fire someone (even if they suck) and get a new person (b/c they might suck as well)

 

[danielpalos]

Further confirmation of the right’s contempt for working Americans.

This is one of many examples of failed conservative dogma, the errant notion that the employer/employee relationship can be returned to a pre-Lochner paradigm where workers are at ‘liberty to contract,’ this is reactionary idiocy, unfounded, devoid of merit, and harmful to working Americans.

It is libs who have contempt for working Americans, thinking they are too stupid to do anything without help from Big Daddy Government. Why do you oppose giving people a choice?

How much choice does labor get when exercising their legal rights regarding employment at will and unemployment compensation simply for being unemployed on an at-will basis in any at-will employment State.

Why does the right, as if by custom and habit until it is ingrained as a moral, prefer to bear false witness to our own laws on an Institutional basis and claim poverty is an Individual problem?

 

[hortysir]

Further confirmation of the right’s contempt for working Americans.

This is one of many examples of failed conservative dogma, the errant notion that the employer/employee relationship can be returned to a pre-Lochner paradigm where workers are at ‘liberty to contract,’ this is reactionary idiocy, unfounded, devoid of merit, and harmful to working Americans.

It is libs who have contempt for working Americans, thinking they are too stupid to do anything without help from Big Daddy Government. Why do you oppose giving people a choice?

How much choice does labor get when exercising their legal rights regarding employment at will and unemployment compensation simply for being unemployed on an at-will basis in any at-will employment State.

Why does the right, as if by custom and habit until it is ingrained as a moral, prefer to bear false witness to our own laws on an Institutional basis and claim poverty is an Individual problem?

Can you be more specific?
What legal rights are employees in At Will states are being denied?

 

[danielpalos]

Further confirmation of the right’s contempt for working Americans.

This is one of many examples of failed conservative dogma, the errant notion that the employer/employee relationship can be returned to a pre-Lochner paradigm where workers are at ‘liberty to contract,’ this is reactionary idiocy, unfounded, devoid of merit, and harmful to working Americans.

It is libs who have contempt for working Americans, thinking they are too stupid to do anything without help from Big Daddy Government. Why do you oppose giving people a choice?

How much choice does labor get when exercising their legal rights regarding employment at will and unemployment compensation simply for being unemployed on an at-will basis in any at-will employment State.

Why does the right, as if by custom and habit until it is ingrained as a moral, prefer to bear false witness to our own laws on an Institutional basis and claim poverty is an Individual problem?

Can you be more specific?
What legal rights are employees in At Will states are being denied?

How much choice does labor get when exercising their legal rights regarding employment at will and unemployment compensation simply for being unemployed on an at-will basis in any at-will employment State.

 

[The Rabbi]

Further confirmation of the right’s contempt for working Americans.

This is one of many examples of failed conservative dogma, the errant notion that the employer/employee relationship can be returned to a pre-Lochner paradigm where workers are at ‘liberty to contract,’ this is reactionary idiocy, unfounded, devoid of merit, and harmful to working Americans.

It is libs who have contempt for working Americans, thinking they are too stupid to do anything without help from Big Daddy Government. Why do you oppose giving people a choice?

How much choice does labor get when exercising their legal rights regarding employment at will and unemployment compensation simply for being unemployed on an at-will basis in any at-will employment State.

Why does the right, as if by custom and habit until it is ingrained as a moral, prefer to bear false witness to our own laws on an Institutional basis and claim poverty is an Individual problem?

Your post is not consonent with the Rule of 72 and therefore invalid.