A breakdown of who is really paying taxes

[JRK]

One more thing for you liberals and this debt thing
from 95 thru 06 we had a GOP congress except 01-02 senate
the "surplus" we had was due to the budgets the GOP mandated

The deficits we had until 2009 was not the wars as they are a constitutional mandate, its the spending that has accumulated through the years that is not in the constitution as a mandate

When Clinton took office, the national debt was at $4.1 trillion. By the time Newt Gingrich and the Republicans took control of Congress after the 1994 election and began enacting the Contract With America, the national debt was about $4.8 trillion. When Clinton finally signed the Balanced Budget Act of 1997 the national debt was at about $5.4 trillion.

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[candycorn]

On budget spending raises the debt exactly like off budget spending raises the debt.
The fact is, Obama raised the debt in a little over three years by just as much as Bush did in eight.
If the job is too tough for Obama, he could resign today.....or whine some more.

Just another (innocent) ploy to hide his wars and the trillion dollars of debt which came with it. A lot of people have told me Carter was the worst president of the modern era but only a blind Republican would fail to see the unnecessary steps taken by the toy cowboy and his (GOD LIKE) activities. What a load of schit to put on the American working class. Borrowing from foreign governments to fund shortfalls which were the result of his two tax cuts(mostly for the wealthy) and two wars...one a war of choice.

It might hide the spending, until you look at the supplemental spending bill, but it doesn't hide the debt.

A lot of people have told me Carter was the worst president of the modern era

They're right, he was.....

I'll fully agree with you on Carter. Abysmal President. I once asked some folks older than I about why in the hell they voted for Carter. The resounding answer was Watergate; either that or the proverbial, "You had tobe there/It seemed like a good idea at the time." The man projected weakness, helplessness, and a firm ignorance of the office in my opinion.

 

[Cammmpbell]

There is no such thing as off budget or on budget Dude
What ever liberal started that is an idiot and to follow it, well following people you look up too sometimes is not god
some good reading for adults, it is a another post I wrote


I keep reading this threads that state GWB added 5 billion dollars to the national Debt.
1 trillion in added budget with 3 trillion from previous debt in interest (including his 1 trillion)
follow along
The senate in 01-02 was controlled by the Dems and congress from 07 through the end of his presidency

The truth is that his (GWB) policies added 700 billion through 2008
Now this is spending, not deficit. This is key
From 2008 thru 2009 we went from a spending of 2.9 trillion to 3.5 trillion in 2009
most of that raise in spending was BHO (stimulus and 50% of tarp) as GWB had budgeted spending of 3.1
we will split 2009 spending addition with GWB and BHO

2008 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia base line 2008
2009 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia added 600 billion from 08
2010 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia added 800 billion from 2008 spending levels and 200 billion from 2009, but in reality he added 500 billion to GWB 09 spending levels
2011 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia added 300 billion from 08 levels and had a cut of 300 billion from 2010

lets make it simple
2008 spending was 2.9 trillion, GWB had added 700 billion to the federal budget to here from his first budget
2009 spending was 3.5 trillion, GWB had added about 1 trillion to the budget, ends his total addition here
BHO 300 billion, his begins
2010 spending was 3.7 trillion BHO had added 600 billion from GWB 09 levels
2011 spending was cut by the GOP house to 3.4 trillion from BHO request of 3.8 trillion

simply put GWB total additions to the federal budget was 1 trillion dollars
BHO to date has added 600 billion in 2.5 years

GWB had 9-11
2 wars
Katrina and 5 other major hurricanes
as I recall 3 stimulus with all of them going to the tax payer
Medicare part D
No child left behind

BHO had both wars but Iraq was far below the levels of GWB presidency
The Katrina expense is gone
Medicare part D is still there
no child left behind as I recall was extended

It is a common thread from the libs that GWB added 5 trillion dollars to the defict in his time
The truth is it closer to 4 trillion as the 09 debacle is at least 50% of BHO, This would include interest on debt for both

President Bush presided over a $2.5 trillion increase in the public debt through 2008. Setting aside 2009 (for which Presidents Bush and Obama share responsibility for an additional $2.6 trillion in public debt)
The Truth about Obama's Budget Deficits, in Pictures

Now we can talk deficits from yearly budgets
simply put the 07 budget had a deficit of 163 billion, the last GOP budget
2007 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We went to a 450 billion dollar deficit in 08 (see above)
1.3 trillion in 09 Link above
same for 2010 Link above
about 1.1 trillion in 2011

The key here is BHO reset the budget base-line in 2009. If not for the GOP house on 2010 the 2011 base line would have grown another 300 billion.

In summary
GWB added 1 trillion dollars in spending thru 8 years
BHO has added 600 billion in 2.5 years, with the GOP house cutting 200 billion in spending in 2011

GWB added 4 trillion total debt in his 8 years to include interest on inherited debt
to date BHO had added about the same
Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2010


This graph by the Washington Post shows this yearly debt better than I can explain it
The Truth about Obama's Budget Deficits, in Pictures

Most all of this came under Dem control of congress
Increase spending has done little to create jobs
In BHO defense the crash in 08 was not his fault, nor was it GWB either

spending is the problem, and the 09 budget was were it got of control

Many including my self think the 2007 budget baseline is the place to start

You really should learn to read....or at least try. These figures are locked in by the government and they are not about to change any more for you than they are for Fox News:

Total U S Debt


09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accomodate Tens of Trillions)

09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32

09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16

09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32

09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38(Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)

09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00

09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)

09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

You liberals blow me away with this constant lying and miss use of information
I hate to us the word lying, but damn
IF TAX CUTS DID IT, WHY DID WE HAVE A DEFICIT OF 163 BILLION IN 2007? 2 WARS BEING PAID FOR WITH 5% UE

In 2007 the US govt spent 163 billion dollars more than they brought in, the last GOP budget
Yet according to you that somehow added 500 billion to the national debt

GWB and his inherited debts interest added 2.5 trillion through 2008
2009 over 50% of the debt added is BHO
Most revenue lost was under his watch
he also added about 400 billion to that debt with the failed stimulus and the 50% os the 700 billion tarp program he ended up with

MY GOD, YOU GUYS NEVER STOP
The Truth about Obama's Budget Deficits, in Pictures
FROM THE WASHINGTON POST, and before 2007 what the Bush admin really added to the national debt was nothing

THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN POLICIES, DEFICIT AND THE NATIONAL DEBT
BHO HAS WENT PAST IN 2.5 YEARS WHAT WAS ADDED UNDER THE GWB ADMIN WOULD HAVE ADDED IN POLICY IN 24 YEARS AND IN REALIZED NATIONAL DEBT IN 8

YOU WANT THE TRUTH, READ THIS THREAD IF YOU DARE TO FACE THE TRUTH ABOUT POLICY AND SPENDING, IT MIGHT SUPRISE YOU
http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...icit-and-the-inheritance-of-1-7-trillion.html

Do you reali e how we paid for the second world war......anyone who earned more than $300,000 a year paid 91% of the excess to the government. GOT THAT
It took place during two terms of Dwight Eisenower in the 1950's GOT THAT
He was a Republican GOT THAT

My lifetime voting record:

1956 Eisenhower
1960 Nixon
1964 Goldwater
1968 Nixon
1972 Nixon
1976 Did Not Vote
1980 Anderson(I)
1984 Reagan
1988 Did Not Vote
1992 Did Not Vote
1996 Did Not Vote
2000 Did Not Vote
2004 Kerry *****
2008 Obama *****

***** Voted Against Spend And Borrow Republicans

I was a Republican when they stood for balanced budgets, small government and individual rights. Now they're in the pockets of corporations and the wealthy PHUCK 'EM

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You really should learn to read....or at least try. These figures are locked in by the government and they are not about to change any more for you than they are for Fox News:

Total U S Debt


09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accomodate Tens of Trillions)

09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32

09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16

09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32

09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38(Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)

09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00

09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)

09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

You liberals blow me away with this constant lying and miss use of information
I hate to us the word lying, but damn
IF TAX CUTS DID IT, WHY DID WE HAVE A DEFICIT OF 163 BILLION IN 2007? 2 WARS BEING PAID FOR WITH 5% UE

In 2007 the US govt spent 163 billion dollars more than they brought in, the last GOP budget
Yet according to you that somehow added 500 billion to the national debt

GWB and his inherited debts interest added 2.5 trillion through 2008
2009 over 50% of the debt added is BHO
Most revenue lost was under his watch
he also added about 400 billion to that debt with the failed stimulus and the 50% os the 700 billion tarp program he ended up with

MY GOD, YOU GUYS NEVER STOP
The Truth about Obama's Budget Deficits, in Pictures
FROM THE WASHINGTON POST, and before 2007 what the Bush admin really added to the national debt was nothing

THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN POLICIES, DEFICIT AND THE NATIONAL DEBT
BHO HAS WENT PAST IN 2.5 YEARS WHAT WAS ADDED UNDER THE GWB ADMIN WOULD HAVE ADDED IN POLICY IN 24 YEARS AND IN REALIZED NATIONAL DEBT IN 8

YOU WANT THE TRUTH, READ THIS THREAD IF YOU DARE TO FACE THE TRUTH ABOUT POLICY AND SPENDING, IT MIGHT SUPRISE YOU
http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...icit-and-the-inheritance-of-1-7-trillion.html

Do you reali e how we paid for the second world war......anyone who earned more than $300,000 a year paid 91% of the excess to the government. GOT THAT
It took place during two terms of Dwight Eisenower in the 1950's GOT THAT
He was a Republican GOT THAT

My lifetime voting record:

1956 Eisenhower
1960 Nixon
1964 Goldwater
1968 Nixon
1972 Nixon
1976 Did Not Vote
1980 Anderson(I)
1984 Reagan
1988 Did Not Vote
1992 Did Not Vote
1996 Did Not Vote
2000 Did Not Vote
2004 Kerry *****
2008 Obama *****

***** Voted Against Spend And Borrow Republicans

I was a Republican when they stood for balanced budgets, small government and individual rights. Now they're in the pockets of corporations and the wealthy PHUCK 'EM

***** Voted Against Spend And Borrow Republicans

***** Voted For Spend More And Borrow Even More Democrats

 

[Seawytch]

A breakdown of who is paying taxes? Meh...a more important breakdown is who owns all the wealth...

 

[edthecynic]

One more thing for you liberals and this debt thing
from 95 thru 06 we had a GOP congress except 01-02 senate
the "surplus" we had was due to the budgets the GOP mandated

The deficits we had until 2009 was not the wars as they are a constitutional mandate, its the spending that has accumulated through the years that is not in the constitution as a mandate

When Clinton took office, the national debt was at $4.1 trillion. By the time Newt Gingrich and the Republicans took control of Congress after the 1994 election and began enacting the Contract With America, the national debt was about $4.8 trillion. When Clinton finally signed the Balanced Budget Act of 1997 the national debt was at about $5.4 trillion.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...g937DQ&usg=AFQjCNEODvEur5oaKOy2-lSbVEpyb8SxJQ

A war of choice is not a Constitutional mandate!!!
And it was Clinton who kept the free spending GOP Congress in check! Once Clinton was replaced by the free spending Bush the GOP free spending Congress ran up 3.8 trillion in debt in 6 years, thats over 600 billion in debt per year. Clinton only ran up a little under 1.4 trillion in 8 years. Bush racked up just under 6 trillion in 8 years passing 12 trillion in GOP debt to Obama. Half of of the debt run up since Bush is the interest on the 12 trillion GOP debt, the other half is the continued spending on Bush policies like his wars, Medicare Part D, No Child Left Behind, etc. CON$ervatism = Generational Theft!!!

 

[edthecynic]

You liberals blow me away with this constant lying and miss use of information
I hate to us the word lying, but damn
IF TAX CUTS DID IT, WHY DID WE HAVE A DEFICIT OF 163 BILLION IN 2007? 2 WARS BEING PAID FOR WITH 5% UE

In 2007 the US govt spent 163 billion dollars more than they brought in, the last GOP budget
Yet according to you that somehow added 500 billion to the national debt

GWB and his inherited debts interest added 2.5 trillion through 2008
2009 over 50% of the debt added is BHO
Most revenue lost was under his watch
he also added about 400 billion to that debt with the failed stimulus and the 50% os the 700 billion tarp program he ended up with

MY GOD, YOU GUYS NEVER STOP
The Truth about Obama's Budget Deficits, in Pictures
FROM THE WASHINGTON POST, and before 2007 what the Bush admin really added to the national debt was nothing

THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN POLICIES, DEFICIT AND THE NATIONAL DEBT
BHO HAS WENT PAST IN 2.5 YEARS WHAT WAS ADDED UNDER THE GWB ADMIN WOULD HAVE ADDED IN POLICY IN 24 YEARS AND IN REALIZED NATIONAL DEBT IN 8

YOU WANT THE TRUTH, READ THIS THREAD IF YOU DARE TO FACE THE TRUTH ABOUT POLICY AND SPENDING, IT MIGHT SUPRISE YOU
http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...icit-and-the-inheritance-of-1-7-trillion.html

Do you reali e how we paid for the second world war......anyone who earned more than $300,000 a year paid 91% of the excess to the government. GOT THAT
It took place during two terms of Dwight Eisenower in the 1950's GOT THAT
He was a Republican GOT THAT

My lifetime voting record:

1956 Eisenhower
1960 Nixon
1964 Goldwater
1968 Nixon
1972 Nixon
1976 Did Not Vote
1980 Anderson(I)
1984 Reagan
1988 Did Not Vote
1992 Did Not Vote
1996 Did Not Vote
2000 Did Not Vote
2004 Kerry *****
2008 Obama *****

***** Voted Against Spend And Borrow Republicans

I was a Republican when they stood for balanced budgets, small government and individual rights. Now they're in the pockets of corporations and the wealthy PHUCK 'EM

***** Voted Against Spend And Borrow Republicans

***** Voted For Spend More And Borrow Even More Democrats

No, Dems are TAX and spend, the GOP is BORROW and spend.

Both Parties spend, the Dems try to pay for their spending with taxes, the GOP make no attempt to pay for their spending, the CON$ just steal from future generations with their endless borrowing.

 

[JRK]

You really should learn to read....or at least try. These figures are locked in by the government and they are not about to change any more for you than they are for Fox News:

Total U S Debt


09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accomodate Tens of Trillions)

09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32

09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16

09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32

09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38(Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)

09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00

09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)

09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

You liberals blow me away with this constant lying and miss use of information
I hate to us the word lying, but damn
IF TAX CUTS DID IT, WHY DID WE HAVE A DEFICIT OF 163 BILLION IN 2007? 2 WARS BEING PAID FOR WITH 5% UE

In 2007 the US govt spent 163 billion dollars more than they brought in, the last GOP budget
Yet according to you that somehow added 500 billion to the national debt

GWB and his inherited debts interest added 2.5 trillion through 2008
2009 over 50% of the debt added is BHO
Most revenue lost was under his watch
he also added about 400 billion to that debt with the failed stimulus and the 50% os the 700 billion tarp program he ended up with

MY GOD, YOU GUYS NEVER STOP
The Truth about Obama's Budget Deficits, in Pictures
FROM THE WASHINGTON POST, and before 2007 what the Bush admin really added to the national debt was nothing

THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN POLICIES, DEFICIT AND THE NATIONAL DEBT
BHO HAS WENT PAST IN 2.5 YEARS WHAT WAS ADDED UNDER THE GWB ADMIN WOULD HAVE ADDED IN POLICY IN 24 YEARS AND IN REALIZED NATIONAL DEBT IN 8

YOU WANT THE TRUTH, READ THIS THREAD IF YOU DARE TO FACE THE TRUTH ABOUT POLICY AND SPENDING, IT MIGHT SUPRISE YOU
http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...icit-and-the-inheritance-of-1-7-trillion.html

Do you reali e how we paid for the second world war......anyone who earned more than $300,000 a year paid 91% of the excess to the government. GOT THAT
It took place during two terms of Dwight Eisenower in the 1950's GOT THAT
He was a Republican GOT THAT

My lifetime voting record:

1956 Eisenhower
1960 Nixon
1964 Goldwater
1968 Nixon
1972 Nixon
1976 Did Not Vote
1980 Anderson(I)
1984 Reagan
1988 Did Not Vote
1992 Did Not Vote
1996 Did Not Vote
2000 Did Not Vote
2004 Kerry *****
2008 Obama *****

***** Voted Against Spend And Borrow Republicans

I was a Republican when they stood for balanced budgets, small government and individual rights. Now they're in the pockets of corporations and the wealthy PHUCK 'EM

The budget issues form 01 thru 08 were 100% 9-11 related
GWB and the GOP would have had balanced budgets in 04 and 07 and maybe 06 and 04 if not for 9-11

Every-one who is not informed cannot grasp that in 2007 the debt went up close to 500 billion, but the deficit for the year was 163 billion

Voting for BHO? and you claim your a conservative?
Okay

 

[Cammmpbell]

You liberals blow me away with this constant lying and miss use of information
I hate to us the word lying, but damn
IF TAX CUTS DID IT, WHY DID WE HAVE A DEFICIT OF 163 BILLION IN 2007? 2 WARS BEING PAID FOR WITH 5% UE

In 2007 the US govt spent 163 billion dollars more than they brought in, the last GOP budget
Yet according to you that somehow added 500 billion to the national debt

GWB and his inherited debts interest added 2.5 trillion through 2008
2009 over 50% of the debt added is BHO
Most revenue lost was under his watch
he also added about 400 billion to that debt with the failed stimulus and the 50% os the 700 billion tarp program he ended up with

MY GOD, YOU GUYS NEVER STOP
The Truth about Obama's Budget Deficits, in Pictures
FROM THE WASHINGTON POST, and before 2007 what the Bush admin really added to the national debt was nothing

THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN POLICIES, DEFICIT AND THE NATIONAL DEBT
BHO HAS WENT PAST IN 2.5 YEARS WHAT WAS ADDED UNDER THE GWB ADMIN WOULD HAVE ADDED IN POLICY IN 24 YEARS AND IN REALIZED NATIONAL DEBT IN 8

YOU WANT THE TRUTH, READ THIS THREAD IF YOU DARE TO FACE THE TRUTH ABOUT POLICY AND SPENDING, IT MIGHT SUPRISE YOU
http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...icit-and-the-inheritance-of-1-7-trillion.html

Do you reali e how we paid for the second world war......anyone who earned more than $300,000 a year paid 91% of the excess to the government. GOT THAT
It took place during two terms of Dwight Eisenower in the 1950's GOT THAT
He was a Republican GOT THAT

My lifetime voting record:

1956 Eisenhower
1960 Nixon
1964 Goldwater
1968 Nixon
1972 Nixon
1976 Did Not Vote
1980 Anderson(I)
1984 Reagan
1988 Did Not Vote
1992 Did Not Vote
1996 Did Not Vote
2000 Did Not Vote
2004 Kerry *****
2008 Obama *****

***** Voted Against Spend And Borrow Republicans

I was a Republican when they stood for balanced budgets, small government and individual rights. Now they're in the pockets of corporations and the wealthy PHUCK 'EM

***** Voted Against Spend And Borrow Republicans

***** Voted For Spend More And Borrow Even More Democrats

That's a goddam lie! If Obama wasn't having to pay nearly half a trillion dollars of interest each year on the Reagan-Bushes debt he wouldn't be spending any more than Bush did. One war has dwindled down to nothing and the lower tax rates were supposed to expire at the end of 2011 but the Republicans held everything to a standstill until they managed to get them extended till the end of 2012. You know what....they're hell bent on not raising taxes even if the Bush wars stay on the bill.

The Democrats have at least taxed enough to pay for their spending, When I was a Republican your argument would have held water.....now any pretense of financial responsibility in the Republican party is an accident...totally unintended.

 

[BlindBoo]

Just another (innocent) ploy to hide his wars and the trillion dollars of debt which came with it. A lot of people have told me Carter was the worst president of the modern era but only a blind Republican would fail to see the unnecessary steps taken by the toy cowboy and his (GOD LIKE) activities. What a load of schit to put on the American working class. Borrowing from foreign governments to fund shortfalls which were the result of his two tax cuts(mostly for the wealthy) and two wars...one a war of choice.

It might hide the spending, until you look at the supplemental spending bill, but it doesn't hide the debt.

A lot of people have told me Carter was the worst president of the modern era

They're right, he was.....

I'll fully agree with you on Carter. Abysmal President. I once asked some folks older than I about why in the hell they voted for Carter. The resounding answer was Watergate; either that or the proverbial, "You had tobe there/It seemed like a good idea at the time." The man projected weakness, helplessness, and a firm ignorance of the office in my opinion.

Carter-Reagan-Bush: The Bipartisan Consensus

The presidency of Jimmy Carter, covering the years 1977 to 1980, seemed an attempt by one part of the Establishment, that represented in the Democratic party, to recapture a disillusioned citizenry. But Carter, despite a few gestures toward black people and the poor, despite talk of "human rights" abroad, remained within the historic political boundaries of the American system, protecting corporate wealth and power, maintaining a huge military machine that drained the national wealth, allying the United States with right-wing tyrannies abroad.

Carter seemed to be the choice of that international group of powerful influence-wielders—the Trilateral Commission. Two founding members of the commission, according to the Far Eastern Economic Review—David Rockefeller and Zbigniew Brzezinski—thought Carter was the right person for the presidential election of 1976 given that "the Watergate-plagued Republican Party was a sure loser..."

Carter's job as President, from the point of view of the Establishment, was to halt the rushing disappointment of the American people with the government, with the economic system, with disastrous military ventures abroad. In his campaign, he tried to speak to the disillusioned and angry. His strongest appeal was to blacks, whose rebellion in the late sixties was the most frightening challenge to authority since the labor and unemployed upsurges in the thirties.

 

[JRK]

One more thing for you liberals and this debt thing
from 95 thru 06 we had a GOP congress except 01-02 senate
the "surplus" we had was due to the budgets the GOP mandated

The deficits we had until 2009 was not the wars as they are a constitutional mandate, its the spending that has accumulated through the years that is not in the constitution as a mandate

When Clinton took office, the national debt was at $4.1 trillion. By the time Newt Gingrich and the Republicans took control of Congress after the 1994 election and began enacting the Contract With America, the national debt was about $4.8 trillion. When Clinton finally signed the Balanced Budget Act of 1997 the national debt was at about $5.4 trillion.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...g937DQ&usg=AFQjCNEODvEur5oaKOy2-lSbVEpyb8SxJQ

A war of choice is not a Constitutional mandate!!!
And it was Clinton who kept the free spending GOP Congress in check! Once Clinton was replaced by the free spending Bush the GOP free spending Congress ran up 3.8 trillion in debt in 6 years, thats over 600 billion in debt per year. Clinton only ran up a little under 1.4 trillion in 8 years. Bush racked up just under 6 trillion in 8 years passing 12 trillion in GOP debt to Obama. Half of of the debt run up since Bush is the interest on the 12 trillion GOP debt, the other half is the continued spending on Bush policies like his wars, Medicare Part D, No Child Left Behind, etc. CON$ervatism = Generational Theft!!!

Defense of this country is a constitutional mandate
Free spending GWB added 700 billion on spending through 2008
not 2.5 trillion
He passed nothing onto BHO but a budget for the year of 3.1 billion, when BHO got thru with it it was 3.5 billion

The wars are a constitutional mandate. Job 1 is to defend this country and even Obama has agreed to that mandate

2009 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

How can GWB have added the debt you liberals keep claiming when the federal defict for the year 2007 was 163 billion?
and how can the GOP policies have done this when this budget was the last GOP budget?
2007 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

close to 50% of the total debt added under his watch was in 2009
A debt that no matter how you cut that year, BHO owns 50% of it
Now in hos defense as well as GWB defense the total collapse of revenue neither caused
Greed fro every person who had a part in that bubble did, no-one else

 

[Full-Auto]

Take that Republican bullschit and try to deposit it into the bank. It takes 60 votes to get something through the senate because of the filibuster. Right off the top of my head the Democrats opposed the tax cuts in 2001 and 2003 but the Republicans used reconciliation to keep them out of it. Then after starting two wars....one unnecessary and totally by choice Bush doubled the national debt and left Obama with nearly a half trillion dollars a year interest payment on his and the Reagan-Bush41 debt.

Bush ran his war expenses as OFF BUDGET emergency spending and the first time Obama asked for funds he put it back ON BUDGET. It's a fact man....all that well looked up horse schit doesn't change the cold hard facts.

There is no such thing as off budget or on budget Dude
What ever liberal started that is an idiot and to follow it, well following people you look up too sometimes is not god
some good reading for adults, it is a another post I wrote


I keep reading this threads that state GWB added 5 billion dollars to the national Debt.
1 trillion in added budget with 3 trillion from previous debt in interest (including his 1 trillion)
follow along
The senate in 01-02 was controlled by the Dems and congress from 07 through the end of his presidency

The truth is that his (GWB) policies added 700 billion through 2008
Now this is spending, not deficit. This is key
From 2008 thru 2009 we went from a spending of 2.9 trillion to 3.5 trillion in 2009
most of that raise in spending was BHO (stimulus and 50% of tarp) as GWB had budgeted spending of 3.1
we will split 2009 spending addition with GWB and BHO

2008 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia base line 2008
2009 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia added 600 billion from 08
2010 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia added 800 billion from 2008 spending levels and 200 billion from 2009, but in reality he added 500 billion to GWB 09 spending levels
2011 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia added 300 billion from 08 levels and had a cut of 300 billion from 2010

lets make it simple
2008 spending was 2.9 trillion, GWB had added 700 billion to the federal budget to here from his first budget
2009 spending was 3.5 trillion, GWB had added about 1 trillion to the budget, ends his total addition here
BHO 300 billion, his begins
2010 spending was 3.7 trillion BHO had added 600 billion from GWB 09 levels
2011 spending was cut by the GOP house to 3.4 trillion from BHO request of 3.8 trillion

simply put GWB total additions to the federal budget was 1 trillion dollars
BHO to date has added 600 billion in 2.5 years

GWB had 9-11
2 wars
Katrina and 5 other major hurricanes
as I recall 3 stimulus with all of them going to the tax payer
Medicare part D
No child left behind

BHO had both wars but Iraq was far below the levels of GWB presidency
The Katrina expense is gone
Medicare part D is still there
no child left behind as I recall was extended

It is a common thread from the libs that GWB added 5 trillion dollars to the defict in his time
The truth is it closer to 4 trillion as the 09 debacle is at least 50% of BHO, This would include interest on debt for both

President Bush presided over a $2.5 trillion increase in the public debt through 2008. Setting aside 2009 (for which Presidents Bush and Obama share responsibility for an additional $2.6 trillion in public debt)
The Truth about Obama's Budget Deficits, in Pictures

Now we can talk deficits from yearly budgets
simply put the 07 budget had a deficit of 163 billion, the last GOP budget
2007 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We went to a 450 billion dollar deficit in 08 (see above)
1.3 trillion in 09 Link above
same for 2010 Link above
about 1.1 trillion in 2011

The key here is BHO reset the budget base-line in 2009. If not for the GOP house on 2010 the 2011 base line would have grown another 300 billion.

In summary
GWB added 1 trillion dollars in spending thru 8 years
BHO has added 600 billion in 2.5 years, with the GOP house cutting 200 billion in spending in 2011

GWB added 4 trillion total debt in his 8 years to include interest on inherited debt
to date BHO had added about the same
Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2010


This graph by the Washington Post shows this yearly debt better than I can explain it
The Truth about Obama's Budget Deficits, in Pictures

Most all of this came under Dem control of congress
Increase spending has done little to create jobs
In BHO defense the crash in 08 was not his fault, nor was it GWB either

spending is the problem, and the 09 budget was were it got of control

Many including my self think the 2007 budget baseline is the place to start

You really should learn to read....or at least try. These figures are locked in by the government and they are not about to change any more for you than they are for Fox News:

Total U S Debt


09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accomodate Tens of Trillions)

09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32

09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16

09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32

09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38(Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)

09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00

09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)

09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

Have you developed the courage to identify the bill the dem congress sent to Reagen?

You pussy POS

 

[JRK]

There is no such thing as off budget or on budget Dude
What ever liberal started that is an idiot and to follow it, well following people you look up too sometimes is not god
some good reading for adults, it is a another post I wrote


I keep reading this threads that state GWB added 5 billion dollars to the national Debt.
1 trillion in added budget with 3 trillion from previous debt in interest (including his 1 trillion)
follow along
The senate in 01-02 was controlled by the Dems and congress from 07 through the end of his presidency

The truth is that his (GWB) policies added 700 billion through 2008
Now this is spending, not deficit. This is key
From 2008 thru 2009 we went from a spending of 2.9 trillion to 3.5 trillion in 2009
most of that raise in spending was BHO (stimulus and 50% of tarp) as GWB had budgeted spending of 3.1
we will split 2009 spending addition with GWB and BHO

2008 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia base line 2008
2009 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia added 600 billion from 08
2010 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia added 800 billion from 2008 spending levels and 200 billion from 2009, but in reality he added 500 billion to GWB 09 spending levels
2011 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia added 300 billion from 08 levels and had a cut of 300 billion from 2010

lets make it simple
2008 spending was 2.9 trillion, GWB had added 700 billion to the federal budget to here from his first budget
2009 spending was 3.5 trillion, GWB had added about 1 trillion to the budget, ends his total addition here
BHO 300 billion, his begins
2010 spending was 3.7 trillion BHO had added 600 billion from GWB 09 levels
2011 spending was cut by the GOP house to 3.4 trillion from BHO request of 3.8 trillion

simply put GWB total additions to the federal budget was 1 trillion dollars
BHO to date has added 600 billion in 2.5 years

GWB had 9-11
2 wars
Katrina and 5 other major hurricanes
as I recall 3 stimulus with all of them going to the tax payer
Medicare part D
No child left behind

BHO had both wars but Iraq was far below the levels of GWB presidency
The Katrina expense is gone
Medicare part D is still there
no child left behind as I recall was extended

It is a common thread from the libs that GWB added 5 trillion dollars to the defict in his time
The truth is it closer to 4 trillion as the 09 debacle is at least 50% of BHO, This would include interest on debt for both

President Bush presided over a $2.5 trillion increase in the public debt through 2008. Setting aside 2009 (for which Presidents Bush and Obama share responsibility for an additional $2.6 trillion in public debt)
The Truth about Obama's Budget Deficits, in Pictures

Now we can talk deficits from yearly budgets
simply put the 07 budget had a deficit of 163 billion, the last GOP budget
2007 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We went to a 450 billion dollar deficit in 08 (see above)
1.3 trillion in 09 Link above
same for 2010 Link above
about 1.1 trillion in 2011

The key here is BHO reset the budget base-line in 2009. If not for the GOP house on 2010 the 2011 base line would have grown another 300 billion.

In summary
GWB added 1 trillion dollars in spending thru 8 years
BHO has added 600 billion in 2.5 years, with the GOP house cutting 200 billion in spending in 2011

GWB added 4 trillion total debt in his 8 years to include interest on inherited debt
to date BHO had added about the same
Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2010


This graph by the Washington Post shows this yearly debt better than I can explain it
The Truth about Obama's Budget Deficits, in Pictures

Most all of this came under Dem control of congress
Increase spending has done little to create jobs
In BHO defense the crash in 08 was not his fault, nor was it GWB either

spending is the problem, and the 09 budget was were it got of control

Many including my self think the 2007 budget baseline is the place to start

You really should learn to read....or at least try. These figures are locked in by the government and they are not about to change any more for you than they are for Fox News:

Total U S Debt


09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accomodate Tens of Trillions)

09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32

09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16

09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32

09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38(Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)

09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00

09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)

09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

Have you developed the courage to identify the bill the dem congress sent to Reagen?

You pussy POS

The GOP took over congress in 1995 and except for the senate 01-02 they mantained control until 2007
The debt did increase, but very little of that was due to policy and year to year spending, in fact no 9-11 we could say that all but 1 maybe 2 of those years would have had a surplus (and Katrina)

The libs keep claiming the wars have cost us trillions, well the wars are an item that is the defense of this country
Bottom line is take away 9-11 and we would have a surplus for many of those years

 

[Cammmpbell]

It might hide the spending, until you look at the supplemental spending bill, but it doesn't hide the debt.

A lot of people have told me Carter was the worst president of the modern era

They're right, he was.....

I'll fully agree with you on Carter. Abysmal President. I once asked some folks older than I about why in the hell they voted for Carter. The resounding answer was Watergate; either that or the proverbial, "You had tobe there/It seemed like a good idea at the time." The man projected weakness, helplessness, and a firm ignorance of the office in my opinion.

Carter-Reagan-Bush: The Bipartisan Consensus

The presidency of Jimmy Carter, covering the years 1977 to 1980, seemed an attempt by one part of the Establishment, that represented in the Democratic party, to recapture a disillusioned citizenry. But Carter, despite a few gestures toward black people and the poor, despite talk of "human rights" abroad, remained within the historic political boundaries of the American system, protecting corporate wealth and power, maintaining a huge military machine that drained the national wealth, allying the United States with right-wing tyrannies abroad.

Carter seemed to be the choice of that international group of powerful influence-wielders—the Trilateral Commission. Two founding members of the commission, according to the Far Eastern Economic Review—David Rockefeller and Zbigniew Brzezinski—thought Carter was the right person for the presidential election of 1976 given that "the Watergate-plagued Republican Party was a sure loser..."

Carter's job as President, from the point of view of the Establishment, was to halt the rushing disappointment of the American people with the government, with the economic system, with disastrous military ventures abroad. In his campaign, he tried to speak to the disillusioned and angry. His strongest appeal was to blacks, whose rebellion in the late sixties was the most frightening challenge to authority since the labor and unemployed upsurges in the thirties.

You people are watching too much Fox News. Everything you said is assertion and conjecture. About Jimmy Carter....I didn't vote for him...I was still trying to get over the crooked Nixon administration. After voting for that goddamned lying crook three times I began to open my eyes. When Reagan and Bush's daddy began to quadruple the national debt that was the straw which broke the camel's back.

 

[JRK]

I'll fully agree with you on Carter. Abysmal President. I once asked some folks older than I about why in the hell they voted for Carter. The resounding answer was Watergate; either that or the proverbial, "You had tobe there/It seemed like a good idea at the time." The man projected weakness, helplessness, and a firm ignorance of the office in my opinion.

Carter-Reagan-Bush: The Bipartisan Consensus

The presidency of Jimmy Carter, covering the years 1977 to 1980, seemed an attempt by one part of the Establishment, that represented in the Democratic party, to recapture a disillusioned citizenry. But Carter, despite a few gestures toward black people and the poor, despite talk of "human rights" abroad, remained within the historic political boundaries of the American system, protecting corporate wealth and power, maintaining a huge military machine that drained the national wealth, allying the United States with right-wing tyrannies abroad.

Carter seemed to be the choice of that international group of powerful influence-wielders—the Trilateral Commission. Two founding members of the commission, according to the Far Eastern Economic Review—David Rockefeller and Zbigniew Brzezinski—thought Carter was the right person for the presidential election of 1976 given that "the Watergate-plagued Republican Party was a sure loser..."

Carter's job as President, from the point of view of the Establishment, was to halt the rushing disappointment of the American people with the government, with the economic system, with disastrous military ventures abroad. In his campaign, he tried to speak to the disillusioned and angry. His strongest appeal was to blacks, whose rebellion in the late sixties was the most frightening challenge to authority since the labor and unemployed upsurges in the thirties.

You people are watching too much Fox News. Everything you said is assertion and conjecture. About Jimmy Carter....I didn't vote for him...I was still trying to get over the crooked Nixon administration. After voting for that goddamned lying crook three times I began to open my eyes. When Reagan and Bush's daddy began to quadruple the national debt that was the straw which broke the camel's back.

The RR, GWHB, debt comment is so old and so much BS
congress has the duty as the peoples reps to budget the country
The President can propose, but congress has the last say

Now i wonder who had control during those years? until 1995?
95 through 07 we had a GOP congress with the exception of 01-02 with the senate
Ok?
Get it?
No Democrat-Controlled Congress Has Balanced Federal Budget in 40 Years; No Republican President Has Balanced Federal Budget in 50 Years | CNSNews.com

 

[JoeB131]

Campbell, why do you keep spamming boards with the deficit numbers.

An HONEST person would admit both parties are guilty of running up the debt, because borrowing is easier than raising taxes or cutting programs.

Anyway, for those who are interested, my voting record.

1980- Reagan- Really like the positive attitude he inspired.
1984- Reagan again- He brought the country back.
1988- Bush- wasn't sure about him, but voted for him anyway.
1992- Gave serious consideration to Perot, until I realized he was crazy. Like Clinton, but quickly figured out he was kind of sleazy. So voted For Bush again, even though I was disgusted with him.
1996- Vote for Dole. Groaned.
2000- Felt enthusiastic about Bush. Better than his Dad. Also was thoroughly disgusted about not being able to use words like "Oval Office" and "Intern" seriously.
2004- VOted for Bush because of his leadership in the GWOT, as opposed to Kerry, who seemed to like Jane Fonda.

2008- This is where things started to change, when I started to realize the GOP is the wealthy manipulating the religious folks (and non-religious folks) by pushing their emotional buttons. But I still voted for McCain because he was a man of honor.

2012- will vote for Obama because Romney disgusts me on so many levels.

 

[Neotrotsky]

All politicians manipulate

Papa Obama has proven he is unable to do what is required
and has made things worse
A 2nd term is not going to help him or the nation

If you want to waste your vote-
just don't vote

 

[JRK]

Not sure why Obama is better than Romney, my god we went from spending less than 3 trillion a year to close to 4 trillion in 2010
Whats worse is nothing to show for it
Romney is a blue dog democrat, or center right
BHO is off the cliff left

any-way that is the great thing about all of this, you have a choice

 

[edthecynic]

One more thing for you liberals and this debt thing
from 95 thru 06 we had a GOP congress except 01-02 senate
the "surplus" we had was due to the budgets the GOP mandated

The deficits we had until 2009 was not the wars as they are a constitutional mandate, its the spending that has accumulated through the years that is not in the constitution as a mandate

When Clinton took office, the national debt was at $4.1 trillion. By the time Newt Gingrich and the Republicans took control of Congress after the 1994 election and began enacting the Contract With America, the national debt was about $4.8 trillion. When Clinton finally signed the Balanced Budget Act of 1997 the national debt was at about $5.4 trillion.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...g937DQ&usg=AFQjCNEODvEur5oaKOy2-lSbVEpyb8SxJQ

A war of choice is not a Constitutional mandate!!!
And it was Clinton who kept the free spending GOP Congress in check! Once Clinton was replaced by the free spending Bush the GOP free spending Congress ran up 3.8 trillion in debt in 6 years, thats over 600 billion in debt per year. Clinton only ran up a little under 1.4 trillion in 8 years. Bush racked up just under 6 trillion in 8 years passing 12 trillion in GOP debt to Obama. Half of of the debt run up since Bush is the interest on the 12 trillion GOP debt, the other half is the continued spending on Bush policies like his wars, Medicare Part D, No Child Left Behind, etc. CON$ervatism = Generational Theft!!!

Defense of this country is a constitutional mandate
Free spending GWB added 700 billion on spending through 2008
not 2.5 trillion
He passed nothing onto BHO but a budget for the year of 3.1 billion, when BHO got thru with it it was 3.5 billion

The wars are a constitutional mandate. Job 1 is to defend this country and even Obama has agreed to that mandate

2009 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

How can GWB have added the debt you liberals keep claiming when the federal defict for the year 2007 was 163 billion?
and how can the GOP policies have done this when this budget was the last GOP budget?
2007 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

close to 50% of the total debt added under his watch was in 2009
A debt that no matter how you cut that year, BHO owns 50% of it
Now in hos defense as well as GWB defense the total collapse of revenue neither caused
Greed fro every person who had a part in that bubble did, no-one else

Iraq didn't attack this country, so no Constitutional mandate to attack anyone CON$ervoFascists feel like attacking.

Free spending GWB added 3.8 trillion to the GOP national debt his first six fiscal years, not the 700 billion you fabricated.

GWB added 500 billion to the GOP national debt in 2007 by borrowing 500 billion dollars, not 163 billion.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Come to think of it

that is pretty impressive gov't spending amounts

The speed of light is about 186,282 miles per second.
Gov't spending is about $694,444 per second

Of course if we spread it out 24/7 instead of 5 work days
then it is about $126,839 a second

Good now we are not doing as bad


That could be it
Maybe once we reach the same number of units per second for gov't spending
as the speed of light

just like time the total budget deficit will start to slow down