A Commission to Study Reparations is Not Reparations

[IM2]

So you admit this issue has come up before. How many times? And why always in an election cycle?

How many of these discussions have resulted in you getting a reparations check, moron?

You get played every election cycle by your racist Dimwinger handlers, and you never wake up. Fortunately, many thinking blacks are waking up. 22% of blacks now support Trump, and that number has been growing since 2016.

But hey, you stay on the Plantation hoping that someday your handlers will actually do something for you.

Checks in the mail, Simp.

It never went away. Now how about you discuss the issuees included in the OP stay the fuck out?

lost equity from anti-Black housing, transportation, and business policy. Slavery, Jim Crow segregation, anti-Black practices like redlining, and other discriminatory public policies in criminal justice and education...

 

[IM2]

Why should they? Are you advocating the government base decisions on race?

Whites have been given at 8 handouts from the government based on race. Fixing the inequality that created will not be done with colorblind policies. All colorblind policies will do is maintain white advantage. And that's why you want race not to be considered.

 

[Nostra]

It never went away. Now how about you discuss the issuees included in the OP stay the fuck out?

lost equity from anti-Black housing, transportation, and business policy. Slavery, Jim Crow segregation, anti-Black practices like redlining, and other discriminatory public policies in criminal justice and education...

"The check is in the mail"-Your Dimwinger Handlers.

(if you don't receive it this year, check back in 4 years)

 

[Nostra]

Whites have been given at 8 handouts from thee government based on race. Fixing the inequality that created will not be done with colorblind policies. All colorblind policies will do is maintain white advantage. And that's why you want race not to be considered.

No stupid, I think MLK was right, unlike you.

I want everyone to be judged on the content of their character, not the color of their skin.

 

[MisterBeale]

I don’t doubt you’re right.

What is the expected or estimated cost of reparations?

I doubt it.

See, the problem with the logic of this OP, and the link, as that when the black Americans ancesters were denied rights, they weren't citizens, they were property.

After the passage of the Fourteenth Amendment, there was never any official discrimination or bias in the law, it was all de facto.

So? Can the state then pass a law which would then, be blatantly, and obviously, de jure, unconstitutional, to redress a social injustice that has happened de facto?

I doubt it very much.

It will be challenged, and the conservatives and classical liberals on the SCOTUS will understand how this will set back race relations in the nation, they will also see how it violates the equal protection and fourteenth amendment.

. . . unless they are in on the, "plan."

This is non-sense, which the ruling elites want, in order to fatten the coffers of the global capitol investment corps,, and to sow more discord in the nation.


ordo ab chao

 

[ScorpioRising007]

This is socialism and the US will not accept socialism. However, you are allowed to dream and have fantasies.

Actually the US has already accepted socialism in a lot of ways and we will continue getting more socialist in coming years. If you seriously think the US will never accept socialism your truly must be blind we already have a lot of socialism in the US.

 

[IM2]

No stupid, I think MLK was right, unlike you.

I want everyone to be judged on the content of their character, not the color of their skin.

Really?

“Few people consider the fact that in addition to being enslaved for two centuries, the Negro was during all those years robbed of the wages of his toil. No amount of gold could provide an adequate compensation for the exploitation and humiliation of the Negro in America down through the centuries. Not all the wealth of this affluent society could meet the bill. Yet, a price can be placed on unpaid wages. The ancient common law has always provided a remedy for the appropriation of the labor of one human being by another. This law should be made to apply for American Negroes. The payment should be in the form of a massive program by the Government of special compensatory measures which could be regarded as a settlement in accordance with the accepted practice of common law. Such measures would certainly be less expensive than any computation based on two centuries of unpaid wages and accumulated interest.”

“It is my great feeling that a massive program must be developed by the federal government to bring new hope into being. Among the many vital jobs to be done, the Nation must not only radically readjust its attitude toward the Negro and the compelling present, but must incorporate inits planning some compensatory consideration for the handicaps he has inherited from the past. It is impossible to create a formula for the future which does not take into account that our society has been doing something special against the Negro for hundreds of years.”

“America must seek its own way of atoning for the injustices she has inflicted on her Negro citizens [not for] atonement’s sake, . . .[but as a] way to bring the Negro standard to a realistic level. . . .The moral justification for special measures for Negroes is rooted in the robberies inherent in the institution of slavery.” - Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.

Harvard Latin American Law Review

harvardlalr.com

 

[IM2]

I doubt it.

See, the problem with the logic of this OP, and the link, as that when the black Americans ancesters were denied rights, they weren't citizens, they were property.

After the passage of the Fourteenth Amendment, there was never any official discrimination or bias in the law, it was all de facto.

So? Can the state then pass a law which would then, be blatantly, and obviously, de jure, unconstitutional, to redress a social injustice that has happened de facto?

I doubt it very much.

It will be challenged, and the conservatives and classical liberals on the SCOTUS will understand how this will set back race relations in the nation, they will also see how it violates the equal protection and fourteenth amendment.

. . . unless they are in on the, "plan."

This is non-sense, which the ruling elites want, in order to fatten the coffers of the global capitol investment corps,, and to sow more discord in the nation.


ordo ab chao

Wrong. This is a very weak argument that will get laughed out of the Supreme Court.

 

[kyzr]

Wrong. This is a very weak argument that will get laughed out of the Supreme Court.

There is no argument. What part of "NO" don't you understand?

 

[Nostra]

Really?

“Few people consider the fact that in addition to being enslaved for two centuries, the Negro was during all those years robbed of the wages of his toil. No amount of gold could provide an adequate compensation for the exploitation and humiliation of the Negro in America down through the centuries. Not all the wealth of this affluent society could meet the bill. Yet, a price can be placed on unpaid wages. The ancient common law has always provided a remedy for the appropriation of the labor of one human being by another. This law should be made to apply for American Negroes. The payment should be in the form of a massive program by the Government of special compensatory measures which could be regarded as a settlement in accordance with the accepted practice of common law. Such measures would certainly be less expensive than any computation based on two centuries of unpaid wages and accumulated interest.”

“It is my great feeling that a massive program must be developed by the federal government to bring new hope into being. Among the many vital jobs to be done, the Nation must not only radically readjust its attitude toward the Negro and the compelling present, but must incorporate inits planning some compensatory consideration for the handicaps he has inherited from the past. It is impossible to create a formula for the future which does not take into account that our society has been doing something special against the Negro for hundreds of years.”

“America must seek its own way of atoning for the injustices she has inflicted on her Negro citizens [not for] atonement’s sake, . . .[but as a] way to bring the Negro standard to a realistic level. . . .The moral justification for special measures for Negroes is rooted in the robberies inherent in the institution of slavery.” - Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.

Harvard Latin American Law Review

harvardlalr.com

Um, your link goes to the Harvard Latin law review, Sport.

 

[IM2]

There is no argument. What part of "NO" don't you understand?

Like I said, it is a very week argument.

 

[IM2]

Um, your link goes to the Harvard Latin law review, Sport.

Dr. King's Dream of Affirmative Action

President Trump and Attorney General Sessions have decided to challenge affirmative action policies in higher education as a form of discrimination against whit

deliverypdf.ssrn.com

 

[MisterBeale]

Wrong. This is a very weak argument that will get laughed out of the Supreme Court.

Fourteenth Amendment​

Section 1​

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
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U.S. Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment | Resources | Constitution Annotated | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

The original text of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution of the United States.

constitution.congress.gov

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[BS Filter]

These commissions are nothing more than stalling tactics.

However, reparations are coming.

They're vote getters. Nothing will happen.

 

[IM2]

Fourteenth Amendment​

Section 1​

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
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U.S. Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment | Resources | Constitution Annotated | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

The original text of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution of the United States.

constitution.congress.gov

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Reparations are covered by the equal protection clause.

 

[Nostra]

Reparations are covered by the equal protection clause.

Quote "reparations" in that clause, Simp.

 

[MisterBeale]

Reparations are covered by the equal protection clause.

Dude, I can't have a conversation with you, when you are clearly in your own world, and living in denial of what the supreme law of the land means.

Did you not follow that last Supreme Court ruling? If they can't even get permission for affirmative action in admissions and hiring, what the hell makes you think the SCOTUS will interpret, "reparations," as constitutional?

Stop hitting the bottle and the pipe man.

Opinion​

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Would reparations for slavery be constitutional?​

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/would-reparations-for-slavery-be-constitutional/2019/08/12/76677182-ba10-11e9-b3b4-2bb69e8c4e39_story.html

Opinion | Would reparations for slavery be constitutional?

They would collide with well-established Supreme Court precedents.

web.archive.org

Supreme Court Strikes Down Use of Race in College Admissions​

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2023-06-29/supreme-court-strikes-down-use-of-race-in-college-admissions

 

[IM2]

Quote "reparations" in that clause, Simp.

Why don't you since reparations have been awarded since the 14th was ratified?

 

[MarcATL]

No stupid, I think MLK was right, unlike you.

I want everyone to be judged on the content of their character, not the color of their skin.

Martin Luther King Jr was right...



"We're coming to get our check."

 

[Nostra]

Why don't you since reparations have been awarded since the 14th was ratified?

So you are talking out of your ass yet again, huh punk?

Typical.