A great example of why socialism is better than "charity"

Right, they turned away a man. At a Christian shelter. Now they probably should have driven her somewhere else, but they were right.

Tommy, what would your beloved Muslims have done? Why are you always picking on the Christians?
She is a woman and these people are not Christians. Would Jesus have turned her away ?

Let's see. Send one person to a different shelter vs. protecting a shelter full of already traumatized and brutalized women from another man. Such a hard call.
As a woman she would be at risk going to a mans shelter.
He's not a woman. Basic biology says so. Why do you ignore science?
Science disagrees with you.

Really? What "science" would that be? Certainly not biological science. Not medical science. By "science", I must assume you mean psychologists and "reassignment" butchers, whose livelihood depends on feeding into these delusions, and whose pronouncements are long on self-interest and short on any real research or fact.
 
Christian homeless shelter defends decision to turn away trans woman

A Christian homeless shelter in Alaska has defended turning away a homeless transgender woman on a cold January evening.

The Downtown Hope Center shelter in Anchorage, Alaska, is under investigation from the city’s Equal Rights Commission after a vulnerable homeless trans woman with nowhere to sleep was denied access into the women’s shelter.
Police had dropped the unnamed woman, identified as Jessie Doe, at the overnight shelter in January 2018—but twice in two days she was turned away by staff.

The average overnight January temperature in Anchorage, Alaska, is -12° Celsius (9° Fahrenheit).

Here is a "charity" that picks those it helps by criteria other than need. The US needs more socialism so that less people freeze on Winters nights. So does the UK for that matter. .
My republican buddy’s wife got cancer. They couldn’t afford the deductible or copayment so they had a charity fund raiser.

He didn’t invite me. Not after all the arguments we had about socialized medicine.

Stupid Americans. Free to be broken by medical costs.

Does the idiot know if republicans could they would let the insurance companies deny her because she has a pre existing condition?
Arent there charities in the US that cover things like this ? In the UK socialised medicine would care for this poor woman until she was well again.

Charity turns the recipient into a beggar to be pitied. Socialism is a contract between government and the people that lets you keep some dignity.

I'm fascinated by the way you cite one of the primary reasons for charity as a negative aspect.

Dignity comes from one's self and one's actions; it is most definitely not conveyed by stealing someone else's money via government and being told you have a right to feel good about it.

Socialism is a lot more dignified than charity. Everybody pays in and everybody is entitled. Its a right. The NHS works on the same principle. How many Americans are suffering in pain because they cant afford the treatment ? Barbaric.

No, socialism is a lot of unearned pride, based in nothing substantial. REAL dignity is far more to be found in personal, one-on-one charity, as is genuine growth and development as a person. Learn the difference between "dignity" and "never experiencing unpleasantness". It's a level of maturity that clearly neither you nor the self-centered, delusional homeless person have ever encountered.

As for the "wonders" of the NHS, how many Britons are suffering because they forced others to pay for them, and now they can't get treatment at all? How dignified is THAT?
 
Christian homeless shelter defends decision to turn away trans woman

A Christian homeless shelter in Alaska has defended turning away a homeless transgender woman on a cold January evening.

The Downtown Hope Center shelter in Anchorage, Alaska, is under investigation from the city’s Equal Rights Commission after a vulnerable homeless trans woman with nowhere to sleep was denied access into the women’s shelter.
Police had dropped the unnamed woman, identified as Jessie Doe, at the overnight shelter in January 2018—but twice in two days she was turned away by staff.

The average overnight January temperature in Anchorage, Alaska, is -12° Celsius (9° Fahrenheit).

Here is a "charity" that picks those it helps by criteria other than need. The US needs more socialism so that less people freeze on Winters nights. So does the UK for that matter. .
My republican buddy’s wife got cancer. They couldn’t afford the deductible or copayment so they had a charity fund raiser.

He didn’t invite me. Not after all the arguments we had about socialized medicine.

Stupid Americans. Free to be broken by medical costs.

Does the idiot know if republicans could they would let the insurance companies deny her because she has a pre existing condition?
Arent there charities in the US that cover things like this ? In the UK socialised medicine would care for this poor woman until she was well again.

Charity turns the recipient into a beggar to be pitied. Socialism is a contract between government and the people that lets you keep some dignity.

I'm fascinated by the way you cite one of the primary reasons for charity as a negative aspect.

Dignity comes from one's self and one's actions; it is most definitely not conveyed by stealing someone else's money via government and being told you have a right to feel good about it.

Socialism is a lot more dignified than charity. Everybody pays in and everybody is entitled. Its a right. The NHS works on the same principle. How many Americans are suffering in pain because they cant afford the treatment ? Barbaric.

No, socialism is a lot of unearned pride, based in nothing substantial. REAL dignity is far more to be found in personal, one-on-one charity, as is genuine growth and development as a person. Learn the difference between "dignity" and "never experiencing unpleasantness". It's a level of maturity that clearly neither you nor the self-centered, delusional homeless person have ever encountered.

As for the "wonders" of the NHS, how many Britons are suffering because they forced others to pay for them, and now they can't get treatment at all? How dignified is THAT?
There is no dignity in begging for handouts. Dignity comes from being part of a society where people work for the common good. I realise that is anathema to conservatives who would inflict their Victorian values on the rest of us.
 
Christian homeless shelter defends decision to turn away trans woman

A Christian homeless shelter in Alaska has defended turning away a homeless transgender woman on a cold January evening.

The Downtown Hope Center shelter in Anchorage, Alaska, is under investigation from the city’s Equal Rights Commission after a vulnerable homeless trans woman with nowhere to sleep was denied access into the women’s shelter.
Police had dropped the unnamed woman, identified as Jessie Doe, at the overnight shelter in January 2018—but twice in two days she was turned away by staff.

The average overnight January temperature in Anchorage, Alaska, is -12° Celsius (9° Fahrenheit).

Here is a "charity" that picks those it helps by criteria other than need. The US needs more socialism so that less people freeze on Winters nights. So does the UK for that matter. .

Since she's not a woman, he should have been denied. Sounds to me like he wanted special treatment and people to ignore basic biology.

There's an easy solution. How about you bleeding hearts fool enough to believe someone can be a gender because they feel like it take them into your homes.

How about they take all the money they're spending on trying to harass this shelter out of business, and use it to open a shelter for LGBTQ homeless people?

Wouldn't that involve them actually doing something instead of taking credit because they talked about it?
 
She is a woman and these people are not Christians. Would Jesus have turned her away ?

Let's see. Send one person to a different shelter vs. protecting a shelter full of already traumatized and brutalized women from another man. Such a hard call.
As a woman she would be at risk going to a mans shelter.
He's not a woman. Basic biology says so. Why do you ignore science?
Science disagrees with you.

Really? What "science" would that be? Certainly not biological science. Not medical science. By "science", I must assume you mean psychologists and "reassignment" butchers, whose livelihood depends on feeding into these delusions, and whose pronouncements are long on self-interest and short on any real research or fact.

Social science.
 
My republican buddy’s wife got cancer. They couldn’t afford the deductible or copayment so they had a charity fund raiser.

He didn’t invite me. Not after all the arguments we had about socialized medicine.

Stupid Americans. Free to be broken by medical costs.

Does the idiot know if republicans could they would let the insurance companies deny her because she has a pre existing condition?
Arent there charities in the US that cover things like this ? In the UK socialised medicine would care for this poor woman until she was well again.

Charity turns the recipient into a beggar to be pitied. Socialism is a contract between government and the people that lets you keep some dignity.

I'm fascinated by the way you cite one of the primary reasons for charity as a negative aspect.

Dignity comes from one's self and one's actions; it is most definitely not conveyed by stealing someone else's money via government and being told you have a right to feel good about it.

Socialism is a lot more dignified than charity. Everybody pays in and everybody is entitled. Its a right. The NHS works on the same principle. How many Americans are suffering in pain because they cant afford the treatment ? Barbaric.

No, socialism is a lot of unearned pride, based in nothing substantial. REAL dignity is far more to be found in personal, one-on-one charity, as is genuine growth and development as a person. Learn the difference between "dignity" and "never experiencing unpleasantness". It's a level of maturity that clearly neither you nor the self-centered, delusional homeless person have ever encountered.

As for the "wonders" of the NHS, how many Britons are suffering because they forced others to pay for them, and now they can't get treatment at all? How dignified is THAT?
There is no dignity in begging for handouts. Dignity comes from being part of a society where people work for the common good. I realise that is anathema to conservatives who would inflict their Victorian values on the rest of us.

I think a big problem here is that you don't understand what dignity actually is. You seem to think it means "feeling good about yourself and never having to feel uncomfortable about anything." It doesn't.

And I strongly challenge your notion that sending the government to take other people's money and give it to you so that you never have to face them yourself or, God forbid, feel ashamed or grateful, is not at all being a part of society, and certainly does not make you one of the people working for any good at all. It makes you a leech, sucking off the lifeforce of those who are working and weighing them down. You SHOULDN'T feel any sense of dignity or comfort with yourself under those circumstances.

I realize any sort of values that actually involve becoming better people is anathema to leftists, who would inflict their greed and self-centeredness on the rest of us. Your half-assed, mistaken notions of charity are exactly the cause of most - if not all - of what is wrong with the world today.
 
Christian homeless shelter defends decision to turn away trans woman

A Christian homeless shelter in Alaska has defended turning away a homeless transgender woman on a cold January evening.

The Downtown Hope Center shelter in Anchorage, Alaska, is under investigation from the city’s Equal Rights Commission after a vulnerable homeless trans woman with nowhere to sleep was denied access into the women’s shelter.
Police had dropped the unnamed woman, identified as Jessie Doe, at the overnight shelter in January 2018—but twice in two days she was turned away by staff.

The average overnight January temperature in Anchorage, Alaska, is -12° Celsius (9° Fahrenheit).

Here is a "charity" that picks those it helps by criteria other than need. The US needs more socialism so that less people freeze on Winters nights. So does the UK for that matter. .

Since she's not a woman, he should have been denied. Sounds to me like he wanted special treatment and people to ignore basic biology.

There's an easy solution. How about you bleeding hearts fool enough to believe someone can be a gender because they feel like it take them into your homes.

How about they take all the money they're spending on trying to harass this shelter out of business, and use it to open a shelter for LGBTQ homeless people?

Wouldn't that involve them actually doing something instead of taking credit because they talked about it?

Yes, I do believe that was my point. ;)
 
Arent there charities in the US that cover things like this ? In the UK socialised medicine would care for this poor woman until she was well again.

Charity turns the recipient into a beggar to be pitied. Socialism is a contract between government and the people that lets you keep some dignity.

I'm fascinated by the way you cite one of the primary reasons for charity as a negative aspect.

Dignity comes from one's self and one's actions; it is most definitely not conveyed by stealing someone else's money via government and being told you have a right to feel good about it.

Socialism is a lot more dignified than charity. Everybody pays in and everybody is entitled. Its a right. The NHS works on the same principle. How many Americans are suffering in pain because they cant afford the treatment ? Barbaric.

No, socialism is a lot of unearned pride, based in nothing substantial. REAL dignity is far more to be found in personal, one-on-one charity, as is genuine growth and development as a person. Learn the difference between "dignity" and "never experiencing unpleasantness". It's a level of maturity that clearly neither you nor the self-centered, delusional homeless person have ever encountered.

As for the "wonders" of the NHS, how many Britons are suffering because they forced others to pay for them, and now they can't get treatment at all? How dignified is THAT?
There is no dignity in begging for handouts. Dignity comes from being part of a society where people work for the common good. I realise that is anathema to conservatives who would inflict their Victorian values on the rest of us.

I think a big problem here is that you don't understand what dignity actually is. You seem to think it means "feeling good about yourself and never having to feel uncomfortable about anything." It doesn't.

And I strongly challenge your notion that sending the government to take other people's money and give it to you so that you never have to face them yourself or, God forbid, feel ashamed or grateful, is not at all being a part of society, and certainly does not make you one of the people working for any good at all. It makes you a leech, sucking off the lifeforce of those who are working and weighing them down. You SHOULDN'T feel any sense of dignity or comfort with yourself under those circumstances.

I realize any sort of values that actually involve becoming better people is anathema to leftists, who would inflict their greed and self-centeredness on the rest of us. Your half-assed, mistaken notions of charity are exactly the cause of most - if not all - of what is wrong with the world today.

Our grandparents were all able to die with dignity because of social security and medicare. Your way they would have died penniless. But you probably like that. The insurance companies sure do.
 
Christian homeless shelter defends decision to turn away trans woman

A Christian homeless shelter in Alaska has defended turning away a homeless transgender woman on a cold January evening.

The Downtown Hope Center shelter in Anchorage, Alaska, is under investigation from the city’s Equal Rights Commission after a vulnerable homeless trans woman with nowhere to sleep was denied access into the women’s shelter.
Police had dropped the unnamed woman, identified as Jessie Doe, at the overnight shelter in January 2018—but twice in two days she was turned away by staff.

The average overnight January temperature in Anchorage, Alaska, is -12° Celsius (9° Fahrenheit).

Here is a "charity" that picks those it helps by criteria other than need. The US needs more socialism so that less people freeze on Winters nights. So does the UK for that matter. .
You are free to help this person. Like most libs you expect others to do what you won't.
 
Let's see. Send one person to a different shelter vs. protecting a shelter full of already traumatized and brutalized women from another man. Such a hard call.
As a woman she would be at risk going to a mans shelter.
He's not a woman. Basic biology says so. Why do you ignore science?
Science disagrees with you.

Really? What "science" would that be? Certainly not biological science. Not medical science. By "science", I must assume you mean psychologists and "reassignment" butchers, whose livelihood depends on feeding into these delusions, and whose pronouncements are long on self-interest and short on any real research or fact.

Social science.

Exactly. "Science" that isn't really scientific.
 
Arent there charities in the US that cover things like this ? In the UK socialised medicine would care for this poor woman until she was well again.

Charity turns the recipient into a beggar to be pitied. Socialism is a contract between government and the people that lets you keep some dignity.

I'm fascinated by the way you cite one of the primary reasons for charity as a negative aspect.

Dignity comes from one's self and one's actions; it is most definitely not conveyed by stealing someone else's money via government and being told you have a right to feel good about it.

Socialism is a lot more dignified than charity. Everybody pays in and everybody is entitled. Its a right. The NHS works on the same principle. How many Americans are suffering in pain because they cant afford the treatment ? Barbaric.

No, socialism is a lot of unearned pride, based in nothing substantial. REAL dignity is far more to be found in personal, one-on-one charity, as is genuine growth and development as a person. Learn the difference between "dignity" and "never experiencing unpleasantness". It's a level of maturity that clearly neither you nor the self-centered, delusional homeless person have ever encountered.

As for the "wonders" of the NHS, how many Britons are suffering because they forced others to pay for them, and now they can't get treatment at all? How dignified is THAT?
There is no dignity in begging for handouts. Dignity comes from being part of a society where people work for the common good. I realise that is anathema to conservatives who would inflict their Victorian values on the rest of us.

I think a big problem here is that you don't understand what dignity actually is. You seem to think it means "feeling good about yourself and never having to feel uncomfortable about anything." It doesn't.

And I strongly challenge your notion that sending the government to take other people's money and give it to you so that you never have to face them yourself or, God forbid, feel ashamed or grateful, is not at all being a part of society, and certainly does not make you one of the people working for any good at all. It makes you a leech, sucking off the lifeforce of those who are working and weighing them down. You SHOULDN'T feel any sense of dignity or comfort with yourself under those circumstances.

I realize any sort of values that actually involve becoming better people is anathema to leftists, who would inflict their greed and self-centeredness on the rest of us. Your half-assed, mistaken notions of charity are exactly the cause of most - if not all - of what is wrong with the world today.
You fail to comprehend the basics. How can I be a leech when I have paid i all my working life ? The NHS is a huge insurance scheme when broken down. If you follow your logic then you are a "leech" when you claim off your health insurance.
Basically we are talking two different languages. I am talking about humanity,decency and dignity. You just dont like paying taxes for a better world. A typical right wing extremist.
 
Christian homeless shelter defends decision to turn away trans woman

A Christian homeless shelter in Alaska has defended turning away a homeless transgender woman on a cold January evening.

The Downtown Hope Center shelter in Anchorage, Alaska, is under investigation from the city’s Equal Rights Commission after a vulnerable homeless trans woman with nowhere to sleep was denied access into the women’s shelter.
Police had dropped the unnamed woman, identified as Jessie Doe, at the overnight shelter in January 2018—but twice in two days she was turned away by staff.

The average overnight January temperature in Anchorage, Alaska, is -12° Celsius (9° Fahrenheit).

Here is a "charity" that picks those it helps by criteria other than need. The US needs more socialism so that less people freeze on Winters nights. So does the UK for that matter. .

Right, they turned away a man. At a Christian shelter. Now they probably should have driven her somewhere else, but they were right.

Tommy, what would your beloved Muslims have done? Why are you always picking on the Christians?
She is a woman and these people are not Christians. Would Jesus have turned her away ?

If she has a penis she is not a woman, Tommy. She might "feel" like a woman and she might think she is a woman, but she is not a woman.

Following your logic this "woman" would have been allowed in. Is that what you want ?

Pat_manuel_transgender_boxer_win.jpg
 
I'm fascinated by the way you cite one of the primary reasons for charity as a negative aspect.

Dignity comes from one's self and one's actions; it is most definitely not conveyed by stealing someone else's money via government and being told you have a right to feel good about it.

Socialism is a lot more dignified than charity. Everybody pays in and everybody is entitled. Its a right. The NHS works on the same principle. How many Americans are suffering in pain because they cant afford the treatment ? Barbaric.

No, socialism is a lot of unearned pride, based in nothing substantial. REAL dignity is far more to be found in personal, one-on-one charity, as is genuine growth and development as a person. Learn the difference between "dignity" and "never experiencing unpleasantness". It's a level of maturity that clearly neither you nor the self-centered, delusional homeless person have ever encountered.

As for the "wonders" of the NHS, how many Britons are suffering because they forced others to pay for them, and now they can't get treatment at all? How dignified is THAT?
There is no dignity in begging for handouts. Dignity comes from being part of a society where people work for the common good. I realise that is anathema to conservatives who would inflict their Victorian values on the rest of us.

I think a big problem here is that you don't understand what dignity actually is. You seem to think it means "feeling good about yourself and never having to feel uncomfortable about anything." It doesn't.

And I strongly challenge your notion that sending the government to take other people's money and give it to you so that you never have to face them yourself or, God forbid, feel ashamed or grateful, is not at all being a part of society, and certainly does not make you one of the people working for any good at all. It makes you a leech, sucking off the lifeforce of those who are working and weighing them down. You SHOULDN'T feel any sense of dignity or comfort with yourself under those circumstances.

I realize any sort of values that actually involve becoming better people is anathema to leftists, who would inflict their greed and self-centeredness on the rest of us. Your half-assed, mistaken notions of charity are exactly the cause of most - if not all - of what is wrong with the world today.
You fail to comprehend the basics. How can I be a leech when I have paid i all my working life ? The NHS is a huge insurance scheme when broken down. If you follow your logic then you are a "leech" when you claim off your health insurance.
Basically we are talking two different languages. I am talking about humanity,decency and dignity. You just dont like paying taxes for a better world. A typical right wing extremist.

You fail to understand a serious basic: it's not always about you personally, dimwit.

Basically, we ARE talking two different languages. I'm speaking morality; you're speaking feel-good-ism.
 
Socialism is a lot more dignified than charity. Everybody pays in and everybody is entitled. Its a right. The NHS works on the same principle. How many Americans are suffering in pain because they cant afford the treatment ? Barbaric.

No, socialism is a lot of unearned pride, based in nothing substantial. REAL dignity is far more to be found in personal, one-on-one charity, as is genuine growth and development as a person. Learn the difference between "dignity" and "never experiencing unpleasantness". It's a level of maturity that clearly neither you nor the self-centered, delusional homeless person have ever encountered.

As for the "wonders" of the NHS, how many Britons are suffering because they forced others to pay for them, and now they can't get treatment at all? How dignified is THAT?
There is no dignity in begging for handouts. Dignity comes from being part of a society where people work for the common good. I realise that is anathema to conservatives who would inflict their Victorian values on the rest of us.

I think a big problem here is that you don't understand what dignity actually is. You seem to think it means "feeling good about yourself and never having to feel uncomfortable about anything." It doesn't.

And I strongly challenge your notion that sending the government to take other people's money and give it to you so that you never have to face them yourself or, God forbid, feel ashamed or grateful, is not at all being a part of society, and certainly does not make you one of the people working for any good at all. It makes you a leech, sucking off the lifeforce of those who are working and weighing them down. You SHOULDN'T feel any sense of dignity or comfort with yourself under those circumstances.

I realize any sort of values that actually involve becoming better people is anathema to leftists, who would inflict their greed and self-centeredness on the rest of us. Your half-assed, mistaken notions of charity are exactly the cause of most - if not all - of what is wrong with the world today.
You fail to comprehend the basics. How can I be a leech when I have paid i all my working life ? The NHS is a huge insurance scheme when broken down. If you follow your logic then you are a "leech" when you claim off your health insurance.
Basically we are talking two different languages. I am talking about humanity,decency and dignity. You just dont like paying taxes for a better world. A typical right wing extremist.

You fail to understand a serious basic: it's not always about you personally, dimwit.

Basically, we ARE talking two different languages. I'm speaking morality; you're speaking feel-good-ism.
You are speaking of naked self interest and trying to pass it off as morality. Something that fake Christians do a lot of.
 
Christian homeless shelter defends decision to turn away trans woman

A Christian homeless shelter in Alaska has defended turning away a homeless transgender woman on a cold January evening.

The Downtown Hope Center shelter in Anchorage, Alaska, is under investigation from the city’s Equal Rights Commission after a vulnerable homeless trans woman with nowhere to sleep was denied access into the women’s shelter.
Police had dropped the unnamed woman, identified as Jessie Doe, at the overnight shelter in January 2018—but twice in two days she was turned away by staff.

The average overnight January temperature in Anchorage, Alaska, is -12° Celsius (9° Fahrenheit).

Here is a "charity" that picks those it helps by criteria other than need. The US needs more socialism so that less people freeze on Winters nights. So does the UK for that matter. .

Right, they turned away a man. At a Christian shelter. Now they probably should have driven her somewhere else, but they were right.

Tommy, what would your beloved Muslims have done? Why are you always picking on the Christians?
She is a woman and these people are not Christians. Would Jesus have turned her away ?

If she has a penis she is not a woman, Tommy. She might "feel" like a woman and she might think she is a woman, but she is not a woman.

Following your logic this "woman" would have been allowed in. Is that what you want ?

Pat_manuel_transgender_boxer_win.jpg

Following YOUR logic, there's a likelihood of a homeless person who can't even provide for personal shelter having the money and time to get multiple major surgeries and then body sculpt in a gym with a personal trainer.

And by the way, THAT person in your picture wouldn't have been asking to stay in the women's homeless shelter in the first place, so as usual with you, your "Aha!" moment bears utterly no relation to anything real, relevant, or useful from any direction you approach it.

Congratulations on a really outstanding and nonsensical waste of time and space. You've truly outdone your standards in stupidity here. :clap:
 
No, socialism is a lot of unearned pride, based in nothing substantial. REAL dignity is far more to be found in personal, one-on-one charity, as is genuine growth and development as a person. Learn the difference between "dignity" and "never experiencing unpleasantness". It's a level of maturity that clearly neither you nor the self-centered, delusional homeless person have ever encountered.

As for the "wonders" of the NHS, how many Britons are suffering because they forced others to pay for them, and now they can't get treatment at all? How dignified is THAT?
There is no dignity in begging for handouts. Dignity comes from being part of a society where people work for the common good. I realise that is anathema to conservatives who would inflict their Victorian values on the rest of us.

I think a big problem here is that you don't understand what dignity actually is. You seem to think it means "feeling good about yourself and never having to feel uncomfortable about anything." It doesn't.

And I strongly challenge your notion that sending the government to take other people's money and give it to you so that you never have to face them yourself or, God forbid, feel ashamed or grateful, is not at all being a part of society, and certainly does not make you one of the people working for any good at all. It makes you a leech, sucking off the lifeforce of those who are working and weighing them down. You SHOULDN'T feel any sense of dignity or comfort with yourself under those circumstances.

I realize any sort of values that actually involve becoming better people is anathema to leftists, who would inflict their greed and self-centeredness on the rest of us. Your half-assed, mistaken notions of charity are exactly the cause of most - if not all - of what is wrong with the world today.
You fail to comprehend the basics. How can I be a leech when I have paid i all my working life ? The NHS is a huge insurance scheme when broken down. If you follow your logic then you are a "leech" when you claim off your health insurance.
Basically we are talking two different languages. I am talking about humanity,decency and dignity. You just dont like paying taxes for a better world. A typical right wing extremist.

You fail to understand a serious basic: it's not always about you personally, dimwit.

Basically, we ARE talking two different languages. I'm speaking morality; you're speaking feel-good-ism.
You are speaking of naked self interest and trying to pass it off as morality. Something that fake Christians do a lot of.

I'M not the one trying to shut down a homeless shelter because they refused to put my personal desires above the well-being of dozens of other people. Perhaps if you're concerned about naked self-interest masquerading as morality, you should have a talk with the guy you're trying to champion.

Hypocrisy would be something EVERY leftist religiophobe does with EVERY word. Not to mention the arrogance required to shout moral condemnations at people who laugh at your belief that you have any morals at all.
 
Arent there charities in the US that cover things like this ? In the UK socialised medicine would care for this poor woman until she was well again.

Charity turns the recipient into a beggar to be pitied. Socialism is a contract between government and the people that lets you keep some dignity.

I'm fascinated by the way you cite one of the primary reasons for charity as a negative aspect.

Dignity comes from one's self and one's actions; it is most definitely not conveyed by stealing someone else's money via government and being told you have a right to feel good about it.

Socialism is a lot more dignified than charity. Everybody pays in and everybody is entitled. Its a right. The NHS works on the same principle. How many Americans are suffering in pain because they cant afford the treatment ? Barbaric.

No, socialism is a lot of unearned pride, based in nothing substantial. REAL dignity is far more to be found in personal, one-on-one charity, as is genuine growth and development as a person. Learn the difference between "dignity" and "never experiencing unpleasantness". It's a level of maturity that clearly neither you nor the self-centered, delusional homeless person have ever encountered.

As for the "wonders" of the NHS, how many Britons are suffering because they forced others to pay for them, and now they can't get treatment at all? How dignified is THAT?
There is no dignity in begging for handouts. Dignity comes from being part of a society where people work for the common good. I realise that is anathema to conservatives who would inflict their Victorian values on the rest of us.

I think a big problem here is that you don't understand what dignity actually is. You seem to think it means "feeling good about yourself and never having to feel uncomfortable about anything." It doesn't.

And I strongly challenge your notion that sending the government to take other people's money and give it to you so that you never have to face them yourself or, God forbid, feel ashamed or grateful, is not at all being a part of society, and certainly does not make you one of the people working for any good at all. It makes you a leech, sucking off the lifeforce of those who are working and weighing them down. You SHOULDN'T feel any sense of dignity or comfort with yourself under those circumstances.

I realize any sort of values that actually involve becoming better people is anathema to leftists, who would inflict their greed and self-centeredness on the rest of us. Your half-assed, mistaken notions of charity are exactly the cause of most - if not all - of what is wrong with the world today.

Only 39% of Americans have enough savings to cover a $1,000 emergency

61% of Americans are $1001 from losing their dignity
 
My republican buddy’s wife got cancer. They couldn’t afford the deductible or copayment so they had a charity fund raiser.

He didn’t invite me. Not after all the arguments we had about socialized medicine.

Stupid Americans. Free to be broken by medical costs.

Does the idiot know if republicans could they would let the insurance companies deny her because she has a pre existing condition?
Arent there charities in the US that cover things like this ? In the UK socialised medicine would care for this poor woman until she was well again.

Charity turns the recipient into a beggar to be pitied. Socialism is a contract between government and the people that lets you keep some dignity.

I'm fascinated by the way you cite one of the primary reasons for charity as a negative aspect.

Dignity comes from one's self and one's actions; it is most definitely not conveyed by stealing someone else's money via government and being told you have a right to feel good about it.

Socialism is a lot more dignified than charity. Everybody pays in and everybody is entitled. Its a right. The NHS works on the same principle. How many Americans are suffering in pain because they cant afford the treatment ? Barbaric.

No, socialism is a lot of unearned pride, based in nothing substantial. REAL dignity is far more to be found in personal, one-on-one charity, as is genuine growth and development as a person. Learn the difference between "dignity" and "never experiencing unpleasantness". It's a level of maturity that clearly neither you nor the self-centered, delusional homeless person have ever encountered.

As for the "wonders" of the NHS, how many Britons are suffering because they forced others to pay for them, and now they can't get treatment at all? How dignified is THAT?
There is no dignity in begging for handouts. Dignity comes from being part of a society where people work for the common good. I realise that is anathema to conservatives who would inflict their Victorian values on the rest of us.

Ever hear of MediShare? Christians doing what you say is ideal. I wonder what you'll find to complain about for them.
 
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Christian homeless shelter defends decision to turn away trans woman

A Christian homeless shelter in Alaska has defended turning away a homeless transgender woman on a cold January evening.

The Downtown Hope Center shelter in Anchorage, Alaska, is under investigation from the city’s Equal Rights Commission after a vulnerable homeless trans woman with nowhere to sleep was denied access into the women’s shelter.
Police had dropped the unnamed woman, identified as Jessie Doe, at the overnight shelter in January 2018—but twice in two days she was turned away by staff.

The average overnight January temperature in Anchorage, Alaska, is -12° Celsius (9° Fahrenheit).

Here is a "charity" that picks those it helps by criteria other than need. The US needs more socialism so that less people freeze on Winters nights. So does the UK for that matter. .

Since she's not a woman, he should have been denied. Sounds to me like he wanted special treatment and people to ignore basic biology.

There's an easy solution. How about you bleeding hearts fool enough to believe someone can be a gender because they feel like it take them into your homes.

How about they take all the money they're spending on trying to harass this shelter out of business, and use it to open a shelter for LGBTQ homeless people?

Wouldn't that involve them actually doing something instead of taking credit because they talked about it?

Yes, I do believe that was my point. ;)

I know.
 

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