A historical film on hitler

[bigrebnc1775]

Did Hitler nationalize industry? This is the only question that can reveal if Hitler was a socialist.

This is what I will answer you with every time you make the silly assertion that Hitler was a socialist.

Hitler
"why socialize industry when you can socialize the people"
Not the exact words I paraphrase

 

[bigrebnc1775]

American Horse is a donky if he thinks Hitler was a socialist. He was a totalitarian dictator who got along quite well with the capitalists and big business. Horse, study more carefully, please.

you're a turd if you think he wasn't. He was a dictator that used socialism to achieve his goals.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I always thought it was interesting Hitler went after socialist democrats and unions.

HUMM.... Strange thing that he would join a new organization called the Germans workers party and within a year take control of that organization and rename it The National Socialist Germans Workers Party.

Not strange, hitler was a socialist and crazy. He killed the socialist leaders in the party to take control himself. Those that deny hitler was a socialist are the same ones that do not believe that obama is a socialist.

Thats one of the points I have been trying to make.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I always thought it was interesting Hitler went after socialist democrats and unions.

and intellectuals
and gays
blacks, jews, immigrants

the nazi party (and hitler and his buddies) were strong supporters of;
traditional roles for men and women
the christian religion (catholics and protestants)
the superiority of white aryan men and women


they sound a lot like glenn beck and michael savage

even with gun control....
cons will tell us (mistakenly) that hitler enacted gun control/confiscation...

but that is misleading...(untrue...a lie)


aryan white germans were allowed to keep their guns...
only non aryans had their guns confiscated

Stop being being stupid, hitler killed one million Christians also. To say he was a Christian or did the killings because he was a Christian is a foolish argument. Hitler did things because he was insane. And he was a socialist.

Hitler killed anyone even party members if they were in his way.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

HUMM.... Strange thing that he would join a new organization called the Germans workers party and within a year take control of that organization and rename it The National Socialist Germans Workers Party.

Not strange, hitler was a socialist and crazy. He killed the socialist leaders in the party to take control himself. Those that deny hitler was a socialist are the same ones that do not believe that obama is a socialist.

We are the ones who know that you are loony. No, horse, neither hitler nor obama were or are socialists.

Go back and look up the definitions, please.

holy shit idiot it's happening right under your nose and still can't see it. Sure you're a republican. Every post you make just shows how liberal you truely are.

 

[RadiomanATL]

hummm....

Yup.

Did you mean to repost your lack of logic skills? Good show then.

I wonder why this reply is not quoted with your post?

Because I'm not in the habit of replying to myself?

Guess who said this?

"What luck for the rulers that men do not think."

And this

"Society's needs come before the individual's needs."

Sounds like socialism again... in practice

Sounds like any dictator.

You said it sounds like any dictator. and left it at that now how does logic suit you?
Are you doing what you accused me of doing earlier?

Yes, it sounds like any dictator. Are you having issues understanding this?
No, I have not altered any quotes like you have.

 

[RadiomanATL]

Why does this argument keep coming up, and is continually brought up by the retards?

Here's a repost of what I said in yet another thread on this same subject:

Hitler was really a dictator. Just like Stalin. But unlike Stalin, he went the fascist route instead of the communist route.

Basically, in 1920's Germany, there was a heavy socialist and communist sympathetic bent among the public, but not with the President and his cabinet. The Pres and his cabinet saw the socialists and communists as a threat to their power. The funny thing is, the majority of the German people didn't even know what socialism or communism really was. They just knew it was against the current form of government, which in their opinion sucked balls.

So what Hitler did was use the existing anti-government, pro-socialist sentiment among the people of Germany to create a new party, the National Socialist German Workers' Party.
(notice that they have the word "national", bringing the whole nation together. The word "socialist", which was meant to capitalize on the existing pro-socialist sentiment...even if the majority of the people didn't know what socialism really was. And the word "workers", meaning it was for the common man). There was already a National Socialist Democrat Party, and a Communist Party, but Hitler was telling people that his was teh shit cause it hated evil jews and other left-wingers.

(side note: One of Hitler's main jobs prior to starting the Nazi party was to report back to the military any Socialist or Communist sympathizer-type meetings so they could be squashed).

Well, elections weren't going so well for the Nazi's. They had some support, but not enough as they thought. They were winning some seats, but not too many. The National Social Democrats (NSD) and the German Communist party were winning more seats than the Nazi's in the governing body. Kinda like our congress, they called it the Reichstaag. Well, Hitler had some of the Nazi's beat up the communists a few times, but it wasn't working. So he came up with a different plan.

He had a fire started in the Reichstaag, and blamed it on communists and the NSD's. Hoo-boy. That got the German population all riled up. They were teh pissed at communists and the NSD's now. So they were all willing and shit when Hitler had the rest of the communists rounded up and executed, along with a ton of the NSD's. Thus eliminating a potential source of rivalry for his power very cleverly.

Soon after the President of Germany died, and since Adolf was Chancellor, he declared the office voided and placed himself as dictator.

Very abbreviated history lesson. But no...Hitler was not a "socialist" by any stretch of the imagination.

Why does this argument keep coming up, and is continually brought up by the retards?

Let's talk about retarded.
Did anyone place a gun to your head and click on this thread?
Did anyone put a gun to your head and read this thread?
Did anyone pout a gun to your head and force you to comment?
If they did not then that is the most retarded thing anyone could ever do, click on, read, comment on a thread they thinks retarded, and continue doing it.
But rock on retard.

Notice that the bigredneck did not address the content of radioman's post because it kills his argument.

The last time this argument came up, he didn't address it either.

No surprise.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Yup.

Did you mean to repost your lack of logic skills? Good show then.

I wonder why this reply is not quoted with your post?

Because I'm not in the habit of replying to myself?

Sounds like any dictator.

You said it sounds like any dictator. and left it at that now how does logic suit you?
Are you doing what you accused me of doing earlier?

Yes, it sounds like any dictator. Are you having issues understanding this?
No, I have not altered any quotes like you have.

Altering post are a no no.

 

[RadiomanATL]

Why does this argument keep coming up, and is continually brought up by the retards?

Here's a repost of what I said in yet another thread on this same subject:

Hitler was really a dictator. Just like Stalin. But unlike Stalin, he went the fascist route instead of the communist route.

Basically, in 1920's Germany, there was a heavy socialist and communist sympathetic bent among the public, but not with the President and his cabinet. The Pres and his cabinet saw the socialists and communists as a threat to their power. The funny thing is, the majority of the German people didn't even know what socialism or communism really was. They just knew it was against the current form of government, which in their opinion sucked balls.

So what Hitler did was use the existing anti-government, pro-socialist sentiment among the people of Germany to create a new party, the National Socialist German Workers' Party.
(notice that they have the word "national", bringing the whole nation together. The word "socialist", which was meant to capitalize on the existing pro-socialist sentiment...even if the majority of the people didn't know what socialism really was. And the word "workers", meaning it was for the common man). There was already a National Socialist Democrat Party, and a Communist Party, but Hitler was telling people that his was teh shit cause it hated evil jews and other left-wingers.

(side note: One of Hitler's main jobs prior to starting the Nazi party was to report back to the military any Socialist or Communist sympathizer-type meetings so they could be squashed).

Well, elections weren't going so well for the Nazi's. They had some support, but not enough as they thought. They were winning some seats, but not too many. The National Social Democrats (NSD) and the German Communist party were winning more seats than the Nazi's in the governing body. Kinda like our congress, they called it the Reichstaag. Well, Hitler had some of the Nazi's beat up the communists a few times, but it wasn't working. So he came up with a different plan.

He had a fire started in the Reichstaag, and blamed it on communists and the NSD's. Hoo-boy. That got the German population all riled up. They were teh pissed at communists and the NSD's now. So they were all willing and shit when Hitler had the rest of the communists rounded up and executed, along with a ton of the NSD's. Thus eliminating a potential source of rivalry for his power very cleverly.

Soon after the President of Germany died, and since Adolf was Chancellor, he declared the office voided and placed himself as dictator.

Very abbreviated history lesson. But no...Hitler was not a "socialist" by any stretch of the imagination.

there is no NSD, you are talking about the SPD, which still exists.

Social Democratic Party of Germany.

just for the record.

I don't know German abbreviations. NSD is my abbreviation for National Social Democrats.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Yup.

Did you mean to repost your lack of logic skills? Good show then.

I wonder why this reply is not quoted with your post?

Because I'm not in the habit of replying to myself?

Sounds like any dictator.

You said it sounds like any dictator. and left it at that now how does logic suit you?
Are you doing what you accused me of doing earlier?

Yes, it sounds like any dictator. Are you having issues understanding this?
No, I have not altered any quotes like you have.

And I said I believe obama has made that comment.

 

[RadiomanATL]

Let's talk about retarded.
Did anyone place a gun to your head and click on this thread?
Did anyone put a gun to your head and read this thread?
Did anyone pout a gun to your head and force you to comment?
If they did not then that is the most retarded thing anyone could ever do, click on, read, comment on a thread they thinks retarded, and continue doing it.
But rock on retard.

Notice that the bigredneck did not address the content of radioman's post because it kills his argument.

Well the other shit was pure RETARDED blather, why should I do anything Pixie took care of his argument.

No, she didn't.

Businesses purchasing government?

That actually helps my argument. Not that you have enough sparks firing upstairs to understand it

 

[RadiomanATL]

Why does this argument keep coming up, and is continually brought up by the retards?

Here's a repost of what I said in yet another thread on this same subject:

Hitler was really a dictator. Just like Stalin. But unlike Stalin, he went the fascist route instead of the communist route.

Basically, in 1920's Germany, there was a heavy socialist and communist sympathetic bent among the public, but not with the President and his cabinet. The Pres and his cabinet saw the socialists and communists as a threat to their power. The funny thing is, the majority of the German people didn't even know what socialism or communism really was. They just knew it was against the current form of government, which in their opinion sucked balls.

So what Hitler did was use the existing anti-government, pro-socialist sentiment among the people of Germany to create a new party, the National Socialist German Workers' Party.
(notice that they have the word "national", bringing the whole nation together. The word "socialist", which was meant to capitalize on the existing pro-socialist sentiment...even if the majority of the people didn't know what socialism really was. And the word "workers", meaning it was for the common man). There was already a National Socialist Democrat Party, and a Communist Party, but Hitler was telling people that his was teh shit cause it hated evil jews and other left-wingers.

(side note: One of Hitler's main jobs prior to starting the Nazi party was to report back to the military any Socialist or Communist sympathizer-type meetings so they could be squashed).

Well, elections weren't going so well for the Nazi's. They had some support, but not enough as they thought. They were winning some seats, but not too many. The National Social Democrats (NSD) and the German Communist party were winning more seats than the Nazi's in the governing body. Kinda like our congress, they called it the Reichstaag. Well, Hitler had some of the Nazi's beat up the communists a few times, but it wasn't working. So he came up with a different plan.

He had a fire started in the Reichstaag, and blamed it on communists and the NSD's. Hoo-boy. That got the German population all riled up. They were teh pissed at communists and the NSD's now. So they were all willing and shit when Hitler had the rest of the communists rounded up and executed, along with a ton of the NSD's. Thus eliminating a potential source of rivalry for his power very cleverly.

Soon after the President of Germany died, and since Adolf was Chancellor, he declared the office voided and placed himself as dictator.

Very abbreviated history lesson. But no...Hitler was not a "socialist" by any stretch of the imagination.

Nice post. If anything besides a dictator, Hitler was a populist.

Hitler was a massively successful populist.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Let's talk about retarded.
Did anyone place a gun to your head and click on this thread?
Did anyone put a gun to your head and read this thread?
Did anyone pout a gun to your head and force you to comment?
If they did not then that is the most retarded thing anyone could ever do, click on, read, comment on a thread they thinks retarded, and continue doing it.
But rock on retard.

Notice that the bigredneck did not address the content of radioman's post because it kills his argument.

The last time this argument came up, he didn't address it either.

No surprise.

I said I did not have to respond Pixie covered it pretty good.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Notice that the bigredneck did not address the content of radioman's post because it kills his argument.

Well the other shit was pure RETARDED blather, why should I do anything Pixie took care of his argument.

No, she didn't.

Businesses purchasing government?

That actually helps my argument. Not that you have enough sparks firing upstairs to understand it

Lets just call you cherry picker of the year and be done with it.

 

[RadiomanATL]

What you all seem to be ignoring is that these forms of control, are different paths to the same end, Totalitarian Rule. They all lead to the same place, total control of the People, 24/7, cradle to grave. It is a sickness, a disease, by any brand or name.

Yup.

Thats why I say that both Hitler and Stalin were dictators. Hitler went the fascist route. Stalin went the communist route.

 

[RadiomanATL]

I wonder why this reply is not quoted with your post?

Because I'm not in the habit of replying to myself?

You said it sounds like any dictator. and left it at that now how does logic suit you?
Are you doing what you accused me of doing earlier?

Yes, it sounds like any dictator. Are you having issues understanding this?
No, I have not altered any quotes like you have.

Altering post are a no no.

Yup. They sure are. So why do you do it?

 

[RadiomanATL]

Well the other shit was pure RETARDED blather, why should I do anything Pixie took care of his argument.

No, she didn't.

Businesses purchasing government?

That actually helps my argument. Not that you have enough sparks firing upstairs to understand it

Lets just call you cherry picker of the year and be done with it.

Cherry picking?

Sorry that facts don't agree with your argument, but thats not cherry picking. Is this another definition that you are struggling with?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

No, she didn't.

Businesses purchasing government?

That actually helps my argument. Not that you have enough sparks firing upstairs to understand it

Lets just call you cherry picker of the year and be done with it.

Cherry picking?

Sorry that facts don't agree with your argument, but thats not cherry picking. Is this another definition that you are struggling with?

Pixie said a lot of things that pointed to socialism but you pointed out one thing. That would bve cherry picking.

 

[RadiomanATL]

Lets just call you cherry picker of the year and be done with it.

Cherry picking?

Sorry that facts don't agree with your argument, but thats not cherry picking. Is this another definition that you are struggling with?

Pixie said a lot of things that pointed to socialism but you pointed out one thing. That would bve cherry picking.

No, Pixie quoted a lot of populist ideas, and one fascist one.

I pointed out the fascist one.

Once again, not my problem you think everything is "OMG TEH SOCIALIZM!!1!!" But just because you want it to be, does not make it so. History and facts disagree with you, and everyone else who thinks Hitler rose to power using the socialist model.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Cherry picking?

Sorry that facts don't agree with your argument, but thats not cherry picking. Is this another definition that you are struggling with?

Pixie said a lot of things that pointed to socialism but you pointed out one thing. That would bve cherry picking.

No, Pixie quoted a lot of populist ideas, and one fascist one.

I pointed out the fascist one.

Once again, not my problem you think everything is "OMG TEH SOCIALIZM!!1!!" But just because you want it to be, does not make it so. History and facts disagree with you, and everyone else who thinks Hitler rose to power using the socialist model.

Pixie called it socialism facts called it socialism So let stick with the facts.
I asked jake this andhe ran away I will ask you the same thing

Are these views of a socialist?


total confiscation of all war profits.

nationalization of all trusts.

profit-sharing in large industries.

generous increase in old-age pensions.

creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.

agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.

Roman law, which serves a materialist ordering of the world, be replaced by German common law.

The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.


The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.


COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD

In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.