A historical film on hitler

[RadiomanATL]

Pixie said a lot of things that pointed to socialism but you pointed out one thing. That would bve cherry picking.

No, Pixie quoted a lot of populist ideas, and one fascist one.

I pointed out the fascist one.

Once again, not my problem you think everything is "OMG TEH SOCIALIZM!!1!!" But just because you want it to be, does not make it so. History and facts disagree with you, and everyone else who thinks Hitler rose to power using the socialist model.

Pixie called it socialism facts called it socialism So let stick with the facts.
I asked jake this andhe ran away I will ask you the same thing

Are these views of a socialist?


total confiscation of all war profits.

nationalization of all trusts.

profit-sharing in large industries.

generous increase in old-age pensions.

creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.

agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.

Roman law, which serves a materialist ordering of the world, be replaced by German common law.

The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.


The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.


COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD

In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.

Facts call it fascism.

Your copy and paste reinforces that it is fascism, if you remember that "businesses purchased the government."

Too bad you fail to understand this

 

[bigrebnc1775]

No, Pixie quoted a lot of populist ideas, and one fascist one.

I pointed out the fascist one.

Once again, not my problem you think everything is "OMG TEH SOCIALIZM!!1!!" But just because you want it to be, does not make it so. History and facts disagree with you, and everyone else who thinks Hitler rose to power using the socialist model.

Pixie called it socialism facts called it socialism So let stick with the facts.
I asked jake this andhe ran away I will ask you the same thing

Are these views of a socialist?


total confiscation of all war profits.

nationalization of all trusts.

profit-sharing in large industries.

generous increase in old-age pensions.

creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.

agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.

Roman law, which serves a materialist ordering of the world, be replaced by German common law.

The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.


The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.


COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD

In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.

Facts call it fascism.

Your copy and paste reinforces that it is fascism, if you remember that "businesses purchased the government."

Too bad you fail to understand this

Did you overlook this one?

Roman law, which serves a materialist ordering of the world, be replaced by German common law

How about this one

creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.

How about this one

The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.

You can't call this facism when l.k. eger said it was the socialist leaders of the german workers party who supposedly wrote it. One of you are wrong.

 

[RadiomanATL]

Pixie called it socialism facts called it socialism So let stick with the facts.
I asked jake this andhe ran away I will ask you the same thing

Are these views of a socialist?


total confiscation of all war profits.

nationalization of all trusts.

profit-sharing in large industries.

generous increase in old-age pensions.

creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.

agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.

Roman law, which serves a materialist ordering of the world, be replaced by German common law.

The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.


The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.


COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD

In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.

Facts call it fascism.

Your copy and paste reinforces that it is fascism, if you remember that "businesses purchased the government."

Too bad you fail to understand this

Did you overlook this one?


How about this one

creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.

How about this one

The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.

You can't call this facism when l.k. eger said it was the socialist leaders of the german workers party who supposedly wrote it. One of you are wrong.

Did you ignore that when businesses purchase the government that it is fascism?

Why yes, I believe you did.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Facts call it fascism.

Your copy and paste reinforces that it is fascism, if you remember that "businesses purchased the government."

Too bad you fail to understand this

Did you overlook this one?


How about this one


How about this one

The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.

You can't call this facism when l.k. eger said it was the socialist leaders of the german workers party who supposedly wrote it. One of you are wrong.

Did you ignore that when businesses purchase the government that it is fascism?

Why yes, I believe you did.

Those quotes I posted dealt with businesses
And I repest
You can't call this facism when l.k. eger said it was the socialist leaders of the german workers party who supposedly wrote it. One of you are wrong.

 

[RadiomanATL]

Did you overlook this one?


How about this one


How about this one



You can't call this facism when l.k. eger said it was the socialist leaders of the german workers party who supposedly wrote it. One of you are wrong.

Did you ignore that when businesses purchase the government that it is fascism?

Why yes, I believe you did.

Those quotes I posted dealt with businesses
And I repest
You can't call this facism when l.k. eger said it was the socialist leaders of the german workers party who supposedly wrote it. One of you are wrong.

They didn't deal with businesses "purchasing" the government. Which is what was advocated, remember?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Did you ignore that when businesses purchase the government that it is fascism?

Why yes, I believe you did.

Those quotes I posted dealt with businesses
And I repest
You can't call this facism when l.k. eger said it was the socialist leaders of the german workers party who supposedly wrote it. One of you are wrong.

They didn't deal with businesses "purchasing" the government. Which is what was advocated, remember?

They were saying that the german government should enforce their demands on businesses and that is socialism.
Now
You can't call this facism when l.k. eger said it was the socialist leaders of the german workers party who supposedly wrote it. One of you are wrong

 

[RadiomanATL]

Those quotes I posted dealt with businesses
And I repest
You can't call this facism when l.k. eger said it was the socialist leaders of the german workers party who supposedly wrote it. One of you are wrong.

They didn't deal with businesses "purchasing" the government. Which is what was advocated, remember?

They were saying that the german government should enforce their demands on businesses and that is socialism.
Now
You can't call this facism when l.k. eger said it was the socialist leaders of the german workers party who supposedly wrote it. One of you are wrong

And what is businesses purchasing the government again?

Whats that?

Fascism? Why yes....yes it is.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

They didn't deal with businesses "purchasing" the government. Which is what was advocated, remember?

They were saying that the german government should enforce their demands on businesses and that is socialism.
Now
You can't call this facism when l.k. eger said it was the socialist leaders of the german workers party who supposedly wrote it. One of you are wrong

And what is businesses purchasing the government again?

Whats that?

Fascism? Why yes....yes it is.

And what is demand to the government that they should enforce the will of socialist on Busniess?
Now
You can't call this facism when l.k. eger said it was the socialist leaders of the german workers party who supposedly wrote it. One of you are wrong

 

[RadiomanATL]

They were saying that the german government should enforce their demands on businesses and that is socialism.
Now
You can't call this facism when l.k. eger said it was the socialist leaders of the german workers party who supposedly wrote it. One of you are wrong

And what is businesses purchasing the government again?

Whats that?

Fascism? Why yes....yes it is.

And what is demand to the government that they should enforce the will of socialist on Busniess?
Now
You can't call this facism when l.k. eger said it was the socialist leaders of the german workers party who supposedly wrote it. One of you are wrong

Try that first sentence again. This time in English

 

[bigrebnc1775]

And what is businesses purchasing the government again?

Whats that?

Fascism? Why yes....yes it is.

And what is demand to the government that they should enforce the will of socialist on Busniess?
Now
You can't call this facism when l.k. eger said it was the socialist leaders of the german workers party who supposedly wrote it. One of you are wrong

Try that first sentence again. This time in English

You can't call this facism when l.k. eger said it was the socialist leaders of the german workers party who supposedly wrote it. One of you are wrong

 

[RadiomanATL]

And what is demand to the government that they should enforce the will of socialist on Busniess?
Now
You can't call this facism when l.k. eger said it was the socialist leaders of the german workers party who supposedly wrote it. One of you are wrong

Try that first sentence again. This time in English

You can't call this facism when l.k. eger said it was the socialist leaders of the german workers party who supposedly wrote it. One of you are wrong

LK Eder said Hitler was a socialist? He's wrong.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Try that first sentence again. This time in English

You can't call this facism when l.k. eger said it was the socialist leaders of the german workers party who supposedly wrote it. One of you are wrong

LK Eder said Hitler was a socialist? He's wrong.

Now let's talk about your comprehension and english. That is not what I said, and you know it.

You can't call this facism when l.k. eger said it was the socialist leaders of the german workers party who supposedly wrote it. One of you are wrong

 

[JakeStarkey]

bigrebnc, you are spamming and that's against the rules.

The only point that counts is that socialism ends up nationalizing the ownership, control, creation, and distribution of good services.

Show us where Nazi Germany nationalized business.

You can't. Thus, Germany was not a socialist state under Hitler.

A fact is an inconvenient truth, and your entire OP is gutted by the above fact.

Live with it.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

bigrebnc, you are spamming and that's against the rules.

The only point that counts is that socialism ends up nationalizing the ownership, control, creation, and distribution of good services.

Show us where Nazi Germany nationalized business.

You can't. Thus, Germany was not a socialist state under Hitler.

A fact is an inconvenient truth, and your entire OP is gutted by the above fact.

Live with it.

You call it spaming I calling kicking your ass. now move along shut the fuck up Report it, or answer the queston

 

[Dr Grump]

You call it spaming I calling kicking your ass. now move along shut the fuck up Report it, or answer the queston

I call it that you are a fruit loop and have no idea what you are talking about...

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You call it spaming I calling kicking your ass. now move along shut the fuck up Report it, or answer the queston

I call it that you are a fruit loop and have no idea what you are talking about...

Another village idiot wants some good old ass kicking.
Would you care to answer that question?

 

[L.K.Eder]

They were saying that the german government should enforce their demands on businesses and that is socialism.
Now
You can't call this facism when l.k. eger said it was the socialist leaders of the german workers party who supposedly wrote it. One of you are wrong

And what is businesses purchasing the government again?

Whats that?

Fascism? Why yes....yes it is.

And what is demand to the government that they should enforce the will of socialist on Busniess?
Now
You can't call this facism when l.k. eger said it was the socialist leaders of the german workers party who supposedly wrote it. One of you are wrong

you rang?

quote the post where i said this.

then we can start to unravel this mystery.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

And what is businesses purchasing the government again?

Whats that?

Fascism? Why yes....yes it is.

And what is demand to the government that they should enforce the will of socialist on Busniess?
Now
You can't call this facism when l.k. eger said it was the socialist leaders of the german workers party who supposedly wrote it. One of you are wrong

you rang?

quote the post where i said this.

then we can start to unravel this mystery.

You said they weren't hitlers words then you mention the socialist leaders of that party and how hitler had them murdered. There by impling, since they aren hitlers words they were the words of the leaders of the Germans workers party.

Here's where you start

obviously without head-protection, vegetable man.

What ever, however, hitler changed the German worker party to the Germans workers socialist party they fact will never change no matter how you try to change a subjet in a thread.

you are wrong. again, broccoli.

Number two

already been done. You are like a 9/11 truther. No matter how many times we show you, you will cling to the bullshit you have been fed.

already been done

Still waiting for that to happen
one of the things that has been used in that attempt has been hitler went after the communist and socialist
My counter was Stalin also went after other socialist

Why did hitler change the german workers party to the germans worker socialist party?

he did not. stop lying.

number 3

i presented my case.

you can't frigth back.

i am truley sorry for your lots

Did I hit a nerve?

Allow me to do it again

The History Place - Rise of Hitler: The 25 Points of Hitler's Nazi Party

The 25 Points of Hitler's Nazi Party

1. We demand the union of all Germans in a Great Germany on the basis of the principle of self-determination of all peoples.

2. We demand that the German people have rights equal to those of other nations; and that the Peace Treaties of Versailles and St. Germain shall be abrogated.

3. We demand land and territory (colonies) for the maintenance of our people and the settlement of our surplus population.

4. Only those who are our fellow countrymen can become citizens. Only those who have German blood, regardless of creed, can be our countrymen. Hence no Jew can be a countryman.
Copywrite Violation
how many people did author this program.

which points were actually implemented?

who is gottfried feder?

who is anton drexler?

who is gregor strasser?

who is otto strasser?

who is alfred rosenberg?

what is zinsknechtschaft?

why so stupid, son?

Number 4

in 1920? no one was a dictator.

what was the new name of the DAP?

what is the harzburg front?

what about points 1-10 of the program, just for shits and giggles?

why can you not answer one question but ask so many, and when yours are answered, you just ask the same question again?

did you have an accident? or several? or were you born like this?

What about 1-10? there's a difference between legal citizens and illegals. Just shit's and grins.

Why explain who each individual person was when you can point out who thew leaderwas?

Sure I know there was no dictator at that point I seperated the two. Fact is hitler was the leader he gave the speecjh for what the german workers party wanted

The German Workers' Party name was changed by Hitler to include the term National Socialist. Thus the full name was the National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP) called for short, Nazi.

The History Place - Rise of Hitler: Nazi Party is Formed

you are cherry picking the points that allegedly support the case for socialism being part of the NSDAP program.

you do not weigh those points against the actually implemented points, when the party was in power.

you do not recognize what happened to gottfried feder, one of the authors after the rise to power.
and you don't know what happened to the strasser bros.

you don't know anything about this topic, only some tidbits you got blown into your ears by some propaganda bullshit artists.

i am bored, and i am here to help you, and the children.

now sit down, and try to process some of the information presented to you in this thread.

and don't come back with any stupid question, you hear me?

i know, it is said that there are no stupid questions, but, in your case, it is not true.

at least one accomplishment for you.

and don't eat the yellow snow, homey.

Am I getting warmer?

 

[L.K.Eder]

i said that hitler was not the only author of the 25-punkte programm.

he was not the author of some of the points you parade around as socialism.

feder was, e.g.

what happened to feder?

and what happened to those points, that allegedly are "socialism"?

were they implemented?

or were they vetoed by krupp, thyssen, flick et al?

even if we could agree that some parts of the program from 1920 contained socialist ideas (you have no clue what that means), they can never be honestly seen separately without the context of the time when they were written, by whom, and the other points that were present, too. and of course you need to take into account what happened to the program during the long rise to power, and of course what happened to it after having gained the power. and what happened to the authors.

btw, hitler had to add something to the program to placate the capitalists he needed to finance his campaigns. and help him get into power. that's when the "socialist" ideas were relegated to the back seat.

the 25-punkte-programm contained a little from everything to be appealing to a maximum amount of potential voters.

you let someone cherry-pick some points for you , hear them call them socialism, therefore hitler is a socialist, therefore obama is hitler.

this you vomit on this board.

i laugh at you.

and provide some info for other readers who have the capacity to process information.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

i said that hitler was not the only author of the 25-punkte programm.

he was not the author of some of the points you parade around as socialism.

feder was, e.g.

what happened to feder?

and what happened to those points, that allegedly are "socialism"?

were they implemented?

or were they vetoed by krupp, thyssen, flick et al?

even if we could agree that some parts of the program from 1920 contained socialist ideas (you have no clue what that means), they can never be honestly seen separately without the context of the time when they were written, by whom, and the other points that were present, too. and of course you need to take into account what happened to the program during the long rise to power, and of course what happened to it after having gained the power. and what happened to the authors.

btw, hitler had to add something to the program to placate the capitalists he needed to finance his campaigns. and help him get into power. that's when the "socialist" ideas were relegated to the back seat.

the 25-punkte-programm contained a little from everything to be appealing to a maximum amount of potential voters.

you let someone cherry-pick some points for you , hear them call them socialism, therefore hitler is a socialist, therefore obama is hitler.

this you vomit on this board.

i laugh at you.

and provide some info for other readers who have the capacity to process information.

Every word in those 25 points is wrapped in socialism. With exception of the Racial motivated points
Are these views of a socialist?


total confiscation of all war profits.

nationalization of all trusts.

profit-sharing in large industries.

generous increase in old-age pensions.

creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.

agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.

Roman law, which serves a materialist ordering of the world, be replaced by German common law.

The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.


The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.


COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD

In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.