A historical film on hitler

[L.K.Eder]

i said that hitler was not the only author of the 25-punkte programm.

he was not the author of some of the points you parade around as socialism.

feder was, e.g.

what happened to feder?

and what happened to those points, that allegedly are "socialism"?

were they implemented?

or were they vetoed by krupp, thyssen, flick et al?

even if we could agree that some parts of the program from 1920 contained socialist ideas (you have no clue what that means), they can never be honestly seen separately without the context of the time when they were written, by whom, and the other points that were present, too. and of course you need to take into account what happened to the program during the long rise to power, and of course what happened to it after having gained the power. and what happened to the authors.

btw, hitler had to add something to the program to placate the capitalists he needed to finance his campaigns. and help him get into power. that's when the "socialist" ideas were relegated to the back seat.

the 25-punkte-programm contained a little from everything to be appealing to a maximum amount of potential voters.

you let someone cherry-pick some points for you , hear them call them socialism, therefore hitler is a socialist, therefore obama is hitler.

this you vomit on this board.

i laugh at you.

and provide some info for other readers who have the capacity to process information.

Every word in those 25 points is wrapped in socialism. With exception of the Racial motivated points
Are these views of a socialist?


total confiscation of all war profits.

nationalization of all trusts.

profit-sharing in large industries.

generous increase in old-age pensions.

creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.

agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.

Roman law, which serves a materialist ordering of the world, be replaced by German common law.

The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.


The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.


COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD

In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.

every single word you post is wrapped in cretinism.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

i said that hitler was not the only author of the 25-punkte programm.

he was not the author of some of the points you parade around as socialism.

feder was, e.g.

what happened to feder?

and what happened to those points, that allegedly are "socialism"?

were they implemented?

or were they vetoed by krupp, thyssen, flick et al?

even if we could agree that some parts of the program from 1920 contained socialist ideas (you have no clue what that means), they can never be honestly seen separately without the context of the time when they were written, by whom, and the other points that were present, too. and of course you need to take into account what happened to the program during the long rise to power, and of course what happened to it after having gained the power. and what happened to the authors.

btw, hitler had to add something to the program to placate the capitalists he needed to finance his campaigns. and help him get into power. that's when the "socialist" ideas were relegated to the back seat.

the 25-punkte-programm contained a little from everything to be appealing to a maximum amount of potential voters.

you let someone cherry-pick some points for you , hear them call them socialism, therefore hitler is a socialist, therefore obama is hitler.

this you vomit on this board.

i laugh at you.

and provide some info for other readers who have the capacity to process information.

Every word in those 25 points is wrapped in socialism. With exception of the Racial motivated points
Are these views of a socialist?


total confiscation of all war profits.

nationalization of all trusts.

profit-sharing in large industries.

generous increase in old-age pensions.

creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.

agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.

Roman law, which serves a materialist ordering of the world, be replaced by German common law.

The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.


The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.


COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD

In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.

every single word you post is wrapped in cretinism.

If you believe that then you are lying to yourself.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Every word in those 25 points is wrapped in socialism. With exception of the Racial motivated points
Are these views of a socialist?


total confiscation of all war profits.

nationalization of all trusts.

profit-sharing in large industries.

generous increase in old-age pensions.

creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.

agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.

Roman law, which serves a materialist ordering of the world, be replaced by German common law.

The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.


The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.


COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD

In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.

every single word you post is wrapped in cretinism.

If you believe that then youy are lying to yourself.

^exhibit MMMDCCLXVII

 

[bigrebnc1775]

every single word you post is wrapped in cretinism.

If you believe that then youy are lying to yourself.

^exhibit MMMDCCLXVII

The date matters not what matters is that list was created by socialist
Yes or No?

Lets go through the 25 points by the numbers.
I will concede that 1-6 has nothing to do with socialism
So lets start with number 7.
7. We demand that the State shall above all undertake to ensure that every citizen shall have the possibility of living decently and earning a livelihood. If it should not be possible to feed the whole population, then aliens (non-citizens) must be expelled from the Reich.

 

[L.K.Eder]

If you believe that then youy are lying to yourself.

^exhibit MMMDCCLXVII

The date matters not what matters is that list was created by socialist
Yes or No?

Lets go through the 25 points by the numbers.
I will concede that 1-6 has nothing to do with socialism
So lets start with number 7.
7. We demand that the State shall above all undertake to ensure that every citizen shall have the possibility of living decently and earning a livelihood. If it should not be possible to feed the whole population, then aliens (non-citizens) must be expelled from the Reich.

^exhibits MMMDCCLXVIII-MMMDCCCXXXV

 

[Gunny]

For those that thinbk socialism is the way, after you watch this film you may change your mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB5OjyP_IAw

Boy are YOU ever messed up. Hitler was a fascist, not a socialist. (Pay attention please ...)

Those who call themselves socialists nowadays ARE fascists. They spend and inordinate amount of time blaming fascism on the right to smokescreen their State medical policies and looking at your nekked ass in the airport.

You can't change a the minds of fools and pussies.

 

[JakeStarkey]

bigrebnc, you are spamming and that's against the rules.

The only point that counts is that socialism ends up nationalizing the ownership, control, creation, and distribution of good services.

Show us where Nazi Germany nationalized business.

You can't. Thus, Germany was not a socialist state under Hitler.

A fact is an inconvenient truth, and your entire OP is gutted by the above fact.

Live with it.

You call it spaming I calling kicking your ass. now move along shut the fuck up Report it, or answer the queston

Your silence on if Hitler nationalized industry is taken as an silent negative. And you are correct. And you have reinforced that you lost the OP a long time ago.

 

[Intense]

For those that thinbk socialism is the way, after you watch this film you may change your mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB5OjyP_IAw

Boy are YOU ever messed up. Hitler was a fascist, not a socialist. (Pay attention please ...)

Those who call themselves socialists nowadays ARE fascists. They spend and inordinate amount of time blaming fascism on the right to smokescreen their State medical policies and looking at your nekked ass in the airport.

You can't change a the minds of fools and pussies.

You can't change a the minds of fools and pussies.

I don't think so either. They are either trying to secure their position in the pecking order, or trying to move up the ladder, no matter how far they have to stick their heads up the ass of who is above them. They will blindly justify and support Expansion and Usurpation without question.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

For those that thinbk socialism is the way, after you watch this film you may change your mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB5OjyP_IAw

Boy are YOU ever messed up. Hitler was a fascist, not a socialist. (Pay attention please ...)

Those who call themselves socialists nowadays ARE fascists. They spend and inordinate amount of time blaming fascism on the right to smokescreen their State medical policies and looking at your nekked ass in the airport.

You can't change a the minds of fools and pussies.

No YOU pay attention Hitler was a dictator that used socialism to his advantage.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

^exhibit MMMDCCLXVII

The date matters not what matters is that list was created by socialist
Yes or No?

Lets go through the 25 points by the numbers.
I will concede that 1-6 has nothing to do with socialism
So lets start with number 7.
7. We demand that the State shall above all undertake to ensure that every citizen shall have the possibility of living decently and earning a livelihood. If it should not be possible to feed the whole population, then aliens (non-citizens) must be expelled from the Reich.

^exhibits MMMDCCLXVIII-MMMDCCCXXXV

oh I see no answer. So that means 7 is a yes for socialism

8. Any further immigration of non-Germans must be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans who have entered Germany since August 2, 1914, shall be compelled to leave the Reich immediately. this one also Is not socialism

So lets take a look at the next one

9. All citizens must possess equal rights and duties.
Is not socialism it has to do with citizenship

So thats 1 out of 9 so far
Here we go
10. The first duty of every citizen must be to work mentally or physically. No individual shall do any work that offends against the interest of the community to the benefit of all.
SOCIALISM
Therefore we demand:

11. That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.

12. Since every war imposes on the people fearful sacrifices in blood and treasure, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as treason to the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

13. We demand the nationalization of all trusts.

14. We demand profit-sharing in large industries.

15. We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.

Are you still with me so far?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

bigrebnc, you are spamming and that's against the rules.

The only point that counts is that socialism ends up nationalizing the ownership, control, creation, and distribution of good services.

Show us where Nazi Germany nationalized business.

You can't. Thus, Germany was not a socialist state under Hitler.

A fact is an inconvenient truth, and your entire OP is gutted by the above fact.

Live with it.

You call it spaming I calling kicking your ass. now move along shut the fuck up Report it, or answer the queston

Your silence on if Hitler nationalized industry is taken as an silent negative. And you are correct. And you have reinforced that you lost the OP a long time ago.

You deaf and dumb act cannot negate this

"Why nationalize industry when you can nationalize the people?"
Adolf Hitler
quoted in Robert N. Proctor, The Nazi War on Cancer (Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1999), p. 74.

 

[JakeStarkey]

For those that thinbk socialism is the way, after you watch this film you may change your mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB5OjyP_IAw

Boy are YOU ever messed up. Hitler was a fascist, not a socialist. (Pay attention please ...)

Those who call themselves socialists nowadays ARE fascists. They spend and inordinate amount of time blaming fascism on the right to smokescreen their State medical policies and looking at your nekked ass in the airport.

You can't change a the minds of fools and pussies.

No YOU pay attention Hitler was a dictator that used socialism to his advantage.

You have no proof that Hitler did any such thing: you lose on this point.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You call it spaming I calling kicking your ass. now move along shut the fuck up Report it, or answer the queston

Your silence on if Hitler nationalized industry is taken as an silent negative. And you are correct. And you have reinforced that you lost the OP a long time ago.

You deaf and dumb act cannot negate this

"Why nationalize industry when you can nationalize the people?"
Adolf Hitler
quoted in Robert N. Proctor, The Nazi War on Cancer (Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1999), p. 74.

And Proctor, down the page, clearly explained that Hitler was not a socialist and that Big Business loved him. You misinterpret the quote. Once again, your own source blows you out of the water.

Hitler was not a socialist.

 

[bodecea]

I always thought it was interesting Hitler went after socialist democrats and unions.

HUMM.... Strange thing that he would join a new organization called the Germans workers party and within a year take control of that organization and rename it The National Socialist Germans Workers Party.

Yeah...like The People's REPUBLIC of China.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Your silence on if Hitler nationalized industry is taken as an silent negative. And you are correct. And you have reinforced that you lost the OP a long time ago.

You deaf and dumb act cannot negate this

"Why nationalize industry when you can nationalize the people?"
Adolf Hitler
quoted in Robert N. Proctor, The Nazi War on Cancer (Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1999), p. 74.

And Proctor, down the page, clearly explained that Hitler was not a socialist and that Big Business loved him. You misinterpret the quote. Once again, your own source blows you out of the water.

Hitler was not a socialist.

I know you have a link. You wouldn't lie, now would you jake?
He clearly explained? How did he explain it? Could he read hitlers mind?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Or bigrebnc claiming to be a Republican; he's not.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I always thought it was interesting Hitler went after socialist democrats and unions.

HUMM.... Strange thing that he would join a new organization called the Germans workers party and within a year take control of that organization and rename it The National Socialist Germans Workers Party.

Yeah...like The People's REPUBLIC of China.

Isn't that how a socialist system works? It's always the peoples never the individuals.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Or bigrebnc claiming to be a Republican; he's not.

I know you have a link. You wouldn't lie, now would you jake?
He clearly explained? How did he explain it? Could he read hitlers mind?

 

[JakeStarkey]

You deaf and dumb act cannot negate this

"Why nationalize industry when you can nationalize the people?"
Adolf Hitler
quoted in Robert N. Proctor, The Nazi War on Cancer (Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1999), p. 74.

And Proctor, down the page, clearly explained that Hitler was not a socialist and that Big Business loved him. You misinterpret the quote. Once again, your own source blows you out of the water.

Hitler was not a socialist.

I know you have a link. You wouldn't lie, now would you jake?
He clearly explained? How did he explain it? Could he read hitlers mind?

Proctor is your source, bigrebnc. Did you forget? He is the authority, not you, and he blows your argument out of the water. Or are you able to read Hitler's mind?

Good grief, son, grow up.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Your own source rejects your argument, bigrebnc. You can't have it both ways. Epic fail.