A message to America from Black America.

[Asclepias]

Anyone with a modicum of common sense knows that slavery put the US on the map for whites while simultaneously destroying the Black family unit after they had recovered from being split up in the first place.

bullshit, slavery did not destroy the black family, the welfare state did.

That was a very ignorant statement.

Nope, it is 100% true. Like it or not, the black family was intact during slavery but was destroyed when the welfare state began rewarding women for having children without being married, and penalized the ones who did have a mother and father in the family.

How do you consider family members being sold off piecemeal "intact". Did someone change the definition of intact? Let me help you out homie

Slavery and the Making of America . The Slave Experience: The Family | PBS

There was certainly some of that. But it was not as commonplace as you would like to believe.

But you ignored the FACTS about how the welfare state has destroyed the black family structure. as expected.

It was more than commonplace. It was desired and a way of punishment. You really need to educate yourself on topics if you are going to argue about it.

Ignored welfare because I never brought welfare up.

 

[Asclepias]

IOW you mean you ignore reality in favor of nonsense?

Jungle bunny civilizations, please.

Cave monkey societies first.

 

[Redfish]

bullshit, slavery did not destroy the black family, the welfare state did.

That was a very ignorant statement.

Nope, it is 100% true. Like it or not, the black family was intact during slavery but was destroyed when the welfare state began rewarding women for having children without being married, and penalized the ones who did have a mother and father in the family.

How do you consider family members being sold off piecemeal "intact". Did someone change the definition of intact? Let me help you out homie

Slavery and the Making of America . The Slave Experience: The Family | PBS

There was certainly some of that. But it was not as commonplace as you would like to believe.

But you ignored the FACTS about how the welfare state has destroyed the black family structure. as expected.

It was more than commonplace. It was desired and a way of punishment. You really need to educate yourself on topics if you are going to argue about it.

Ignored welfare because I never brought welfare up.

Yes, it was used as a form of punishment, but it was rare, not common. I suggest that you do some research before making a fool of yourself with your self rightious bullshit.

You brought up the breakdown of the black family, I corrected you on the real cause of that.

 

[Redfish]

So, is "black america" separate from "america" ?

 

[Asclepias]

That was a very ignorant statement.

Nope, it is 100% true. Like it or not, the black family was intact during slavery but was destroyed when the welfare state began rewarding women for having children without being married, and penalized the ones who did have a mother and father in the family.

How do you consider family members being sold off piecemeal "intact". Did someone change the definition of intact? Let me help you out homie

Slavery and the Making of America . The Slave Experience: The Family | PBS

There was certainly some of that. But it was not as commonplace as you would like to believe.

But you ignored the FACTS about how the welfare state has destroyed the black family structure. as expected.

It was more than commonplace. It was desired and a way of punishment. You really need to educate yourself on topics if you are going to argue about it.

Ignored welfare because I never brought welfare up.

Yes, it was used as a form of punishment, but it was rare, not common. I suggest that you do some research before making a fool of yourself with your self rightious bullshit.

You brought up the breakdown of the black family, I corrected you on the real cause of that.

So, is "black america" separate from "america" ?

No it was not rare. It was a institutional practice used by slave owners in america to keep slaves docile. You need further instruction but I dont have time to enlighten someone that is willfully ignorant.

 

[sealybobo]

Actually I don't disagree with black people that America hasn't given them a fair shake. That much I get.

Here comes the but....

But how have blacks responded? Thug mentality, gold teeth, baby mamas, pants low, eubonics, high crime rates, not taking school serious, poverty and welfare etc. They arent improving as a society despite us.

Thats just the stuff racist pricks like you like to focus on. Its like if I presented Meth and incest as being the legacy of whites. Or rape and molestation the legacy of Catholics.

I like how you said "Hey you guys were oppressed for generations I get it....but what about your gold teeth" Pretending that gold teeth is akin to the level of having the military and govt hold your head under water.

Just like the person above pretended that being short is the same as slavery. Thats all you guys have.

I think you get the point. Take the gold out your grill pull your pants up and learn to speak.

And stop being so malcom x and be more mlk. Actually a combo of both. Malcomb made good points too like start your own business'

And when I pull mah pants up will racism be over then? DURP!!

For you it will. You'll see cops and employers treat you better.

I can't promise you won't run into a racist cop. I can only advise you to do what he says.

I realize this is from personal experience, but what the heck..

I have a friend from Jamaica that I worked with at the NYSE for 11 years. He started his own technical business and moved to Jamaica. He came back last year because of his business. At a dinner party at my place he told me he was tossed up against a car, hand cuffed and frisked. When he asked the police why this happened, they didn't answer but let him go. This is a college educated guy, clean cut, intelligent, and a business owner. He's also a sci fi nerd mixed with gym rat (We use to work out together at the Polytech Gym).

There was only one reason that happened.

Same reason that tennis star was picked on, I agree. Maybe black people need to realize why our police are so suspicious of them.

When white America saw white police pick on blacks during the civil rights era we were horrified at how the whites behaved. We saw all those blacks were doing was peacefully protesting or trying to get on a bus. Today we have blacks resisting arrest and talking back to cops. And blacks are a lot more violent today than the blacks back during Selma were. Militant criminals. Seems blacks haven't thrived under their new found freedom. in fact some ways they have regressed.

 

[Sallow]

No, it was disproven above. You filter out what doesn't fit your purpose. That isn't somebody else's fault.

You cant disprove that slavery hurt blacks and helped whites. Thats like saying you disproved that water is wet. What you link said was that slavery was cool because Americans have it better than others. It didnt say anything about whites being helped by slavery vs blacks being hurt by it.

Its just another "Slavery wasnt bad because hey! At least you're American! Right?"

Anyone with a modicum of common sense knows that slavery put the US on the map for whites while simultaneously destroying the Black family unit after they had recovered from being split up in the first place.

bullshit, slavery did not destroy the black family, the welfare state did.

Yes, splitting up families actually was bringing them TOGETHER!! HURRR DURRR!

The majority of slave owners realized that they had better results when they kept families together.

But as I said, that is in the past. it was terrible but its over. and for the record, most slave owners were democrats.

That's nuts.

That's like saying the majority of cattle farmers realize they have better results if they keep cow families together.

 

[Mac1958]

So, is "black america" separate from "america" ?

Sure. Identity Politics has been very effective. Division. Isolation. Tragic.

 

[Sallow]

Here comes the but....

Thats just the stuff racist pricks like you like to focus on. Its like if I presented Meth and incest as being the legacy of whites. Or rape and molestation the legacy of Catholics.

I like how you said "Hey you guys were oppressed for generations I get it....but what about your gold teeth" Pretending that gold teeth is akin to the level of having the military and govt hold your head under water.

Just like the person above pretended that being short is the same as slavery. Thats all you guys have.

I think you get the point. Take the gold out your grill pull your pants up and learn to speak.

And stop being so malcom x and be more mlk. Actually a combo of both. Malcomb made good points too like start your own business'

And when I pull mah pants up will racism be over then? DURP!!

For you it will. You'll see cops and employers treat you better.

I can't promise you won't run into a racist cop. I can only advise you to do what he says.

I realize this is from personal experience, but what the heck..

I have a friend from Jamaica that I worked with at the NYSE for 11 years. He started his own technical business and moved to Jamaica. He came back last year because of his business. At a dinner party at my place he told me he was tossed up against a car, hand cuffed and frisked. When he asked the police why this happened, they didn't answer but let him go. This is a college educated guy, clean cut, intelligent, and a business owner. He's also a sci fi nerd mixed with gym rat (We use to work out together at the Polytech Gym).

There was only one reason that happened.

Same reason that tennis star was picked on, I agree. Maybe black people need to realize why our police are so suspicious of them.

When white America saw white police pick on blacks during the civil rights era we were horrified at how the whites behaved. We saw all those blacks were doing was peacefully protesting or trying to get on a bus. Today we have blacks resisting arrest and talking back to cops. And blacks are a lot more violent today than the blacks back during Selma were. Militant criminals. Seems blacks haven't thrived under their new found freedom. in fact some ways they have regressed.

What?

There were both peaceful protests and violent uprisings in the sixties.

When do you think the "Black Panthers" started?

 

[sealybobo]

You cant disprove that slavery hurt blacks and helped whites. Thats like saying you disproved that water is wet. What you link said was that slavery was cool because Americans have it better than others. It didnt say anything about whites being helped by slavery vs blacks being hurt by it.

Its just another "Slavery wasnt bad because hey! At least you're American! Right?"

Anyone with a modicum of common sense knows that slavery put the US on the map for whites while simultaneously destroying the Black family unit after they had recovered from being split up in the first place.

bullshit, slavery did not destroy the black family, the welfare state did.

Yes, splitting up families actually was bringing them TOGETHER!! HURRR DURRR!

The majority of slave owners realized that they had better results when they kept families together.

But as I said, that is in the past. it was terrible but its over. and for the record, most slave owners were democrats.

That's nuts.

That's like saying the majority of cattle farmers realize they have better results if they keep cow families together.

A happier cow is a tastier cow and gives off better milk.

 

[Sallow]

Mulford Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[sealybobo]

I think you get the point. Take the gold out your grill pull your pants up and learn to speak.

And stop being so malcom x and be more mlk. Actually a combo of both. Malcomb made good points too like start your own business'

And when I pull mah pants up will racism be over then? DURP!!

For you it will. You'll see cops and employers treat you better.

I can't promise you won't run into a racist cop. I can only advise you to do what he says.

I realize this is from personal experience, but what the heck..

I have a friend from Jamaica that I worked with at the NYSE for 11 years. He started his own technical business and moved to Jamaica. He came back last year because of his business. At a dinner party at my place he told me he was tossed up against a car, hand cuffed and frisked. When he asked the police why this happened, they didn't answer but let him go. This is a college educated guy, clean cut, intelligent, and a business owner. He's also a sci fi nerd mixed with gym rat (We use to work out together at the Polytech Gym).

There was only one reason that happened.

Same reason that tennis star was picked on, I agree. Maybe black people need to realize why our police are so suspicious of them.

When white America saw white police pick on blacks during the civil rights era we were horrified at how the whites behaved. We saw all those blacks were doing was peacefully protesting or trying to get on a bus. Today we have blacks resisting arrest and talking back to cops. And blacks are a lot more violent today than the blacks back during Selma were. Militant criminals. Seems blacks haven't thrived under their new found freedom. in fact some ways they have regressed.

What?

There were both peaceful protests and violent uprisings in the sixties.

When do you think the "Black Panthers" started?

That is exactly when black society started being violent. The 60's riots. My dad says before the Detroit 60's riots you felt safe in Detroit at night. After that, not so much.

 

[sealybobo]

I think you get the point. Take the gold out your grill pull your pants up and learn to speak.

And stop being so malcom x and be more mlk. Actually a combo of both. Malcomb made good points too like start your own business'

And when I pull mah pants up will racism be over then? DURP!!

For you it will. You'll see cops and employers treat you better.

I can't promise you won't run into a racist cop. I can only advise you to do what he says.

I realize this is from personal experience, but what the heck..

I have a friend from Jamaica that I worked with at the NYSE for 11 years. He started his own technical business and moved to Jamaica. He came back last year because of his business. At a dinner party at my place he told me he was tossed up against a car, hand cuffed and frisked. When he asked the police why this happened, they didn't answer but let him go. This is a college educated guy, clean cut, intelligent, and a business owner. He's also a sci fi nerd mixed with gym rat (We use to work out together at the Polytech Gym).

There was only one reason that happened.

Same reason that tennis star was picked on, I agree. Maybe black people need to realize why our police are so suspicious of them.

When white America saw white police pick on blacks during the civil rights era we were horrified at how the whites behaved. We saw all those blacks were doing was peacefully protesting or trying to get on a bus. Today we have blacks resisting arrest and talking back to cops. And blacks are a lot more violent today than the blacks back during Selma were. Militant criminals. Seems blacks haven't thrived under their new found freedom. in fact some ways they have regressed.

What?

There were both peaceful protests and violent uprisings in the sixties.

When do you think the "Black Panthers" started?

Lets be real honest here. Blacks were afraid of whites before the 1960's and so there wasn't the high crime rate we see today because today blacks aren't afraid or respectful. In fact they are angry and militant. We saw that woman who killed herself in jail act rude to the police officer that pulled her over. We see blacks resisting arrest. In fact most of the blacks who've been killed by cops have all either been resisting or running from cops. Cops aren't killing blacks that obey the law.

But on the other hand, we do know that cops target and ticket blacks. We know this happens. BUT, it isn't our fault you have a warrant or no insurance when you get pulled over.

Blacks talk to cops like I would never talk to a police officer. They should be respected the same way you respect a judge.

 

[ClosedCaption]

You cant disprove that slavery hurt blacks and helped whites. Thats like saying you disproved that water is wet. What you link said was that slavery was cool because Americans have it better than others. It didnt say anything about whites being helped by slavery vs blacks being hurt by it.

Its just another "Slavery wasnt bad because hey! At least you're American! Right?"

Anyone with a modicum of common sense knows that slavery put the US on the map for whites while simultaneously destroying the Black family unit after they had recovered from being split up in the first place.

bullshit, slavery did not destroy the black family, the welfare state did.

Yes, splitting up families actually was bringing them TOGETHER!! HURRR DURRR!

The majority of slave owners realized that they had better results when they kept families together.

But as I said, that is in the past. it was terrible but its over. and for the record, most slave owners were democrats.

That's nuts.

That's like saying the majority of cattle farmers realize they have better results if they keep cow families together.

Notice also that he cannot back up any of his bullshit with facts. How many times has he said something wasnt true only to come back and say it is true "but it didnt happen as much as you think". Like he knows to what level someone thinks and its wrong.

LMAO @ Slave owners wanted to keep families together LMAO

 

[Asclepias]

And when I pull mah pants up will racism be over then? DURP!!

For you it will. You'll see cops and employers treat you better.

I can't promise you won't run into a racist cop. I can only advise you to do what he says.

I realize this is from personal experience, but what the heck..

I have a friend from Jamaica that I worked with at the NYSE for 11 years. He started his own technical business and moved to Jamaica. He came back last year because of his business. At a dinner party at my place he told me he was tossed up against a car, hand cuffed and frisked. When he asked the police why this happened, they didn't answer but let him go. This is a college educated guy, clean cut, intelligent, and a business owner. He's also a sci fi nerd mixed with gym rat (We use to work out together at the Polytech Gym).

There was only one reason that happened.

Same reason that tennis star was picked on, I agree. Maybe black people need to realize why our police are so suspicious of them.

When white America saw white police pick on blacks during the civil rights era we were horrified at how the whites behaved. We saw all those blacks were doing was peacefully protesting or trying to get on a bus. Today we have blacks resisting arrest and talking back to cops. And blacks are a lot more violent today than the blacks back during Selma were. Militant criminals. Seems blacks haven't thrived under their new found freedom. in fact some ways they have regressed.

What?

There were both peaceful protests and violent uprisings in the sixties.

When do you think the "Black Panthers" started?

Lets be real honest here. Blacks were afraid of whites before the 1960's and so there wasn't the high crime rate we see today because today blacks aren't afraid or respectful. In fact they are angry and militant. We saw that woman who killed herself in jail act rude to the police officer that pulled her over. We see blacks resisting arrest. In fact most of the blacks who've been killed by cops have all either been resisting or running from cops. Cops aren't killing blacks that obey the law.

But on the other hand, we do know that cops target and ticket blacks. We know this happens. BUT, it isn't our fault you have a warrant or no insurance when you get pulled over.

Blacks talk to cops like I would never talk to a police officer. They should be respected the same way you respect a judge.

Yes lets be real honest. Whites have always feared Blacks. Thats why they made laws banning Blacks from marrying whites. Thats why they made laws making it illegal for a Black person to be unemployed. Thats why the NRA supported a gun ban for the first time in history. It has gotten worse now that they know they will have to bleed in any further attempts to control Blacks.


“Simply put, white cops are afraid of black men. We don’t talk about it, we pretend it doesn’t exist, we claim “color blindness,” we say white officers treat black men the same way they treat white men. But that’s a lie. In fact, the bigger, the darker the black man the greater the fear. The African-American community knows this. Hell, most whites know it. Yet, even though it’s a central, if not the defining ingredient in the makeup of police racism, white cops won’t admit it to themselves, or to others.”

― Norm Stamper, Breaking Rank: A Top Cop's Exposé of the Dark Side of American Policing

 

[NoNukes]

7 seconds in, I've heard all
I needed to hear.

Same old nonsense. Got a problem black America? Look in the fucking mirror.

7 seconds? You heard nothing because you are ignorant and hear nothing.

 

[ClosedCaption]

And when I pull mah pants up will racism be over then? DURP!!

For you it will. You'll see cops and employers treat you better.

I can't promise you won't run into a racist cop. I can only advise you to do what he says.

I realize this is from personal experience, but what the heck..

I have a friend from Jamaica that I worked with at the NYSE for 11 years. He started his own technical business and moved to Jamaica. He came back last year because of his business. At a dinner party at my place he told me he was tossed up against a car, hand cuffed and frisked. When he asked the police why this happened, they didn't answer but let him go. This is a college educated guy, clean cut, intelligent, and a business owner. He's also a sci fi nerd mixed with gym rat (We use to work out together at the Polytech Gym).

There was only one reason that happened.

Same reason that tennis star was picked on, I agree. Maybe black people need to realize why our police are so suspicious of them.

When white America saw white police pick on blacks during the civil rights era we were horrified at how the whites behaved. We saw all those blacks were doing was peacefully protesting or trying to get on a bus. Today we have blacks resisting arrest and talking back to cops. And blacks are a lot more violent today than the blacks back during Selma were. Militant criminals. Seems blacks haven't thrived under their new found freedom. in fact some ways they have regressed.

What?

There were both peaceful protests and violent uprisings in the sixties.

When do you think the "Black Panthers" started?

Lets be real honest here. Blacks were afraid of whites before the 1960's and so there wasn't the high crime rate we see today because today blacks aren't afraid or respectful.

So, you're going with the pull it out your ass form of debate? Unless you're going to reveal this feelings meter you have that you keep referencing.

See, this guy thinks that blacks were scared of whites...No, blacks were and still are afraid of the white system. Its easy to act tough when you have the power of the government behind you. Now you dont, now you're scared

In fact they are angry and militant. We saw that woman who killed herself in jail act rude to the police officer that pulled her over. We see blacks resisting arrest. In fact most of the blacks who've been killed by cops have all either been resisting or running from cops. Cops aren't killing blacks that obey the law.

No because like Chris Rock says "Just sprinkle some crack on 'em"

But on the other hand, we do know that cops target and ticket blacks. We know this happens. BUT, it isn't our fault you have a warrant or no insurance when you get pulled over.

Blacks talk to cops like I would never talk to a police officer. They should be respected the same way you respect a judge.

This is the 3rd time you glossed over "cops target and ticket blacks" like its no big deal and then go in the complete opposite direction. Its like saying "I understand Sharks are eating people, but who's fault is it that you're delicious?"

 

[NoNukes]

7 seconds in, I've heard all
I needed to hear.

Same old nonsense. Got a problem black America? Look in the fucking mirror.

I didn't even bother, tired of all this black crap

This is your brain on drugs.

 

[Asclepias]

Anyone with a modicum of common sense knows that slavery put the US on the map for whites while simultaneously destroying the Black family unit after they had recovered from being split up in the first place.

bullshit, slavery did not destroy the black family, the welfare state did.

Yes, splitting up families actually was bringing them TOGETHER!! HURRR DURRR!

The majority of slave owners realized that they had better results when they kept families together.

But as I said, that is in the past. it was terrible but its over. and for the record, most slave owners were democrats.

That's nuts.

That's like saying the majority of cattle farmers realize they have better results if they keep cow families together.

Notice also that he cannot back up any of his bullshit with facts. How many times has he said something wasnt true only to come back and say it is true "but it didnt happen as much as you think". Like he knows to what level someone thinks and its wrong.

LMAO @ Slave owners wanted to keep families together LMAO

Only a fool would believe slave owners wanted to keep families together because they were so happy being slaves. People with intelligence know that separating families would help keep slaves disorganized and fearful. Its one thing to gather your family that lives right there and make a run for it. Its quite another to have to travel miles and miles just to gather everyone. It was a control, a institutional practice by slave owners to keep slaves in line. They didnt want any Nat Turners.

 

[bedowin62]

let's be honest; nobody fears an educated, UNBRAINWASHED Black man or woman like Progressives of any race do.

independent people cant be held captive if they can fully function on their own