daveman
Diamond Member
I am not a leftist and you certainly are a conservative, for sure. But you won't succeed because you aren't able to adapt to the world. Your words give you away.
Let's just see what USMB thinks about you.
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I am not a leftist and you certainly are a conservative, for sure. But you won't succeed because you aren't able to adapt to the world. Your words give you away.
You suck at reading minds, boy.Some of the sad freaks at USMB don't like me. What sad freaks believe while pretending to be conservative doesn't mean a 'thang', son, not a 'thang'.
daveman, you have realized that you are a loser.. But there is a way out, but you will have to do it on your own.
Have you ever read a complete text by Marx?
Have you ever studied Marx in a university context, where you unpacked his terms inside their historical context?
Here is why I ask.
I notice that Conservatives make constant references to Marx, but I never get the sense that they've studied his work in depth. I get the sense that they've been exposed to Marx mostly by interested 3rd parties (Talk Radio, partisan literature, the echo chamber) who provide only cherry picked quotes.
I have a friend who has been referring to Marx for years. I finally found out he had never read anything by Marx and it scared me.
When I tried to investigate why he would do such a thing, I discovered something horrific.
First, I should mention, I understand that Conservatives have created a universe which circulates talking points to their members. [This is what all political parties do] These talking points, which contain references to Marx, are pumped through a vast media network and repeated endlessly until they are experienced as "facts". I get this, and I realize that these talking points are designed for lemmings who can't think for themselves. Both parties have this regrettable element.
The horrific part is that so many people do not experience any cognitive dissonance when they use a reference that they've never fully investigated.
Here is my question, again. Why do Conservatives use terms that they've never studied? Is there anything about their personalities that would explain this? Does the movement attract a certain type of person? Is it a quasi-religious thing whereby they trust "higher powers" for their information? Is it really enough that William F Buckley read some Marx at Yale, which lead to an industry of secondary criticism (twice removed from the source), which criticism has produced fully formed opinions in people who've never consulted the source?
Please help me understand.
[Please don't say "liberals do it too". We already know this. The question is not "why do commie liberals act stupidly or unethically?". We know why? -they're commie liberals. The questions is: "why do good conservative americans act stupidly or unethically?"]
Is it possible that huge portions of the Right have never studied a word that use daily? Is it really possible that the party of Lincoln has been taken over by morons?
(Lie to me. Tell me you've studied Marx. Stretch the truth. Invent some rationalization about how you don't need to read an author to understand him -- and how you can trust news personalities to educate you and your children. Anything. Just don't tell me that you've never directly studied one of your key terms)
(Conservatives rely on the term "Marx" more than anything in their lexicon -- it is their lynchpin to criticize the Left. What if most of them have never read Marx and don't even understand his theories?)
(Is the most powerful political movement in my lifetime -- the Reagan Revolution -- kept afloat by an army of useful idiots?)
Have you ever read a complete text by Marx?
Have you ever studied Marx in a university context, where you unpacked his terms inside their historical context?
Here is why I ask.
I notice that Conservatives make constant references to Marx, but I never get the sense that they've studied his work in depth. I get the sense that they've been exposed to Marx mostly by interested 3rd parties (Talk Radio, partisan literature, the echo chamber) who provide only cherry picked quotes.
I have a friend who has been referring to Marx for years. I finally found out he had never read anything by Marx and it scared me.
When I tried to investigate why he would do such a thing, I discovered something horrific.
First, I should mention, I understand that Conservatives have created a universe which circulates talking points to their members. [This is what all political parties do] These talking points, which contain references to Marx, are pumped through a vast media network and repeated endlessly until they are experienced as "facts". I get this, and I realize that these talking points are designed for lemmings who can't think for themselves. Both parties have this regrettable element.
The horrific part is that so many people do not experience any cognitive dissonance when they use a reference that they've never fully investigated.
Here is my question, again. Why do Conservatives use terms that they've never studied? Is there anything about their personalities that would explain this? Does the movement attract a certain type of person? Is it a quasi-religious thing whereby they trust "higher powers" for their information? Is it really enough that William F Buckley read some Marx at Yale, which lead to an industry of secondary criticism (twice removed from the source), which criticism has produced fully formed opinions in people who've never consulted the source?
Please help me understand.
[Please don't say "liberals do it too". We already know this. The question is not "why do commie liberals act stupidly or unethically?". We know why? -they're commie liberals. The questions is: "why do good conservative americans act stupidly or unethically?"]
Is it possible that huge portions of the Right have never studied a word that use daily? Is it really possible that the party of Lincoln has been taken over by morons?
(Lie to me. Tell me you've studied Marx. Stretch the truth. Invent some rationalization about how you don't need to read an author to understand him -- and how you can trust news personalities to educate you and your children. Anything. Just don't tell me that you've never directly studied one of your key terms)
(Conservatives rely on the term "Marx" more than anything in their lexicon -- it is their lynchpin to criticize the Left. What if most of them have never read Marx and don't even understand his theories?)
(Is the most powerful political movement in my lifetime -- the Reagan Revolution -- kept afloat by an army of useful idiots?)
Simple question for you.
Name a country or government that was inspired in some way by Marx, that has worked out well for its people.
Marxs's Ideas seems wonderful on paper.
It has always been in their practical application that the problem arises.
Pay no attention to the murderous Communism behind that curtain.Simple question for you.
Name a country or government that was inspired in some way by Marx, that has worked out well for its people.
Marxs's Ideas seems wonderful on paper.
It has always been in their practical application that the problem arises.
You suck at reading minds, boy.Some of the sad freaks at USMB don't like me. What sad freaks believe while pretending to be conservative doesn't mean a 'thang', son, not a 'thang'.
daveman, you have realized that you are a loser.. But there is a way out, but you will have to do it on your own.
That's your problem, boy. You feel. You don't think.You suck at reading minds, boy.Some of the sad freaks at USMB don't like me. What sad freaks believe while pretending to be conservative doesn't mean a 'thang', son, not a 'thang'.
daveman, you have realized that you are a loser.. But there is a way out, but you will have to do it on your own.
Include it all, loser.
I feel about you the way I did when the tea party freaks came to the meeting in July 2009. I had told them earlier they would be polite, passionate if they wanted, but polite. They did not like that, I told them what would happen, they tested it, left the meeting in handcuffs, and when they came back after coughing up hefty fines and 'good performance bonds', they gave me dirty looks but were polite.
That's how I feel about you, daveman. You and those who think like you are unimportant in how things work and how they will turn out.
Checked the poll results lately? Nobody believes your bullshit, kid.Naw, your feeling, daveman, is what gets you.
I think. I planned my life: the military, the education, the university, my profession, my career, my wife and family; I saved 10% of every dollar I ever made because I made a budget. I made sure at least 10% or more of my income went to charity. My children knew higher education was not a choice but a requirement. I always studied, prayed, and tried to make the honest and moral choice.
Now I "feel" (which you misunderstand) about you as I described above.
You are flotsam. I just move you along with the rest who float instead of steer. You and your type don't matter at all, at least not here, and you never will.
Have you ever read a complete text by Marx?
Have you ever studied Marx in a university context, where you unpacked his terms inside their historical context?
As long as you realize how evil right wing icons can be as well.
What gets me is that both wack extremes believe the other extreme and the center as well are bad.
Wack thinking
Here is my question, again. Why do Conservatives use terms that they've never studied?
As long as you realize how evil right wing icons can be as well.
What gets me is that both wack extremes believe the other extreme and the center as well are bad.
Wack thinking
I think any person can be evil, and almost any ideology can be evil. The extreme right, at it's farthest extremes, would be chaotic, governmentless populations. Smallest possible government, right? So, examples of places where tribes and gangs are MORE powerful than the government? Mexico, Afghanistan, Yemen. Not good. Survival of the fittest, or most well-armed. But the people who HAVE those extreme right wing beliefs aren't dangerous, the results of that ideology being fulfilled would be, as it'd be rule by tribes, gangs and etc.
The left wing, however, is about control. Massive government control of all human behavior. Forced equality. Overwhelming central power that can cut and carve society to fit exactly the image the government wants. Thats VERY bad.
Somewhere in the middle is where the people and government have about equal power against each other. And in that mushy middle is, I think, where social issues become the spark that pushes folks farther right or left.