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It would be great to include more trade and practical type classes in school... I lived in the auto shop in HS and it lead me towards an engineering degree in college. It doesn’t all have to be theorySo, for some, do trade schools instead of general public schooling?
Back in the day, we had shop classes.
And I remember the guidance counselors steering us so called “smart kids” away from the shop classes so we wouldn’t end up in “those kind of jobs”.
Other countries mix theory with application.It would be great to include more trade and practical type classes in school... I lived in the auto shop in HS and it lead me towards an engineering degree in college. It doesn’t all have to be theorySo, for some, do trade schools instead of general public schooling?
Back in the day, we had shop classes.
And I remember the guidance counselors steering us so called “smart kids” away from the shop classes so we wouldn’t end up in “those kind of jobs”.
Excellent point!That puts an unfair burdon on children who have lazy, unmotivated or disenfranchised parents and why should the children suffer as a result of having bad parents?Wouldnt it be easier on everyone if the only people there, were people that wanted to be there?
Freedom is too and that get shits on every dayThere is much more that is learned in school than simply the subject matter of the classes. Kids learn how to learn, they develop discipline to stick to a schedule, challenge themselves with subjects that they don’t necessarily like or want to learn about, they learn social skills, sports and extra curricular activities etc. It is the best environment to prepare them for the real world on many levels.Interesting question.
To be honest, I’m split.
You would think I would support mandatory schooling up until age 21. But how many years really are necessary to learn the basics that makes for a literate citizenry?
5th, 6th grade?
How much do we learn in high school do we really use in real life? What I remember back in high school, it was like a forced buffet. You had to have a taste of everything. Although it was in those years that my writing skills grew.
It can definitely be improved in many areas but it is a great system and essential to a prosperous society
My first job was a laborer for a construction project and I learned that I hated digging trenches and clearing garbage piles. I wanted to be the guy with the hammer or the guy with the blueprints both of whom were getting paid way more than the guys sweating in the dirt. This is what made me start taking school and going to college seriously. My point is, sometimes experiencing things you hate can motivate you to achieve better things. We all have to experience struggles and challenges in life. It’s in those situations when we often learn the most about ourselves. This is especially important for our youth to learn and experienceThere is much more that is learned in school than simply the subject matter of the classes. Kids learn how to learn, they develop discipline to stick to a schedule, challenge themselves with subjects that they don’t necessarily like or want to learn about, they learn social skills, sports and extra curricular activities etc. It is the best environment to prepare them for the real world on many levels.Interesting question.
To be honest, I’m split.
You would think I would support mandatory schooling up until age 21. But how many years really are necessary to learn the basics that makes for a literate citizenry?
5th, 6th grade?
How much do we learn in high school do we really use in real life? What I remember back in high school, it was like a forced buffet. You had to have a taste of everything. Although it was in those years that my writing skills grew.
It can definitely be improved in many areas but it is a great system and essential to a prosperous society
Some learn those things. And some learn they hate school.
I definitely agree that there needs to be a healthy balance between what we regulate and what we don’t. Liberty and freedom is what our country is built on and we can’t lose thatFreedom is too and that get shits on every dayThere is much more that is learned in school than simply the subject matter of the classes. Kids learn how to learn, they develop discipline to stick to a schedule, challenge themselves with subjects that they don’t necessarily like or want to learn about, they learn social skills, sports and extra curricular activities etc. It is the best environment to prepare them for the real world on many levels.Interesting question.
To be honest, I’m split.
You would think I would support mandatory schooling up until age 21. But how many years really are necessary to learn the basics that makes for a literate citizenry?
5th, 6th grade?
How much do we learn in high school do we really use in real life? What I remember back in high school, it was like a forced buffet. You had to have a taste of everything. Although it was in those years that my writing skills grew.
It can definitely be improved in many areas but it is a great system and essential to a prosperous society
My first job was a laborer for a construction project and I learned that I hated digging trenches and clearing garbage piles. I wanted to be the guy with the hammer or the guy with the blueprints both of whom were getting paid way more than the guys sweating in the dirt. This is what made me start taking school and going to college seriously. My point is, sometimes experiencing things you hate can motivate you to achieve better things. We all have to experience struggles and challenges in life. It’s in those situations when we often learn the most about ourselves. This is especially important for our youth to learn and experienceThere is much more that is learned in school than simply the subject matter of the classes. Kids learn how to learn, they develop discipline to stick to a schedule, challenge themselves with subjects that they don’t necessarily like or want to learn about, they learn social skills, sports and extra curricular activities etc. It is the best environment to prepare them for the real world on many levels.Interesting question.
To be honest, I’m split.
You would think I would support mandatory schooling up until age 21. But how many years really are necessary to learn the basics that makes for a literate citizenry?
5th, 6th grade?
How much do we learn in high school do we really use in real life? What I remember back in high school, it was like a forced buffet. You had to have a taste of everything. Although it was in those years that my writing skills grew.
It can definitely be improved in many areas but it is a great system and essential to a prosperous society
Some learn those things. And some learn they hate school.
But then how do you apply that lesson to the real world? People have to go to work every day and do you wanna guess how many people hate working or hate their jobs? Yet they have to do it to survive.My first job was a laborer for a construction project and I learned that I hated digging trenches and clearing garbage piles. I wanted to be the guy with the hammer or the guy with the blueprints both of whom were getting paid way more than the guys sweating in the dirt. This is what made me start taking school and going to college seriously. My point is, sometimes experiencing things you hate can motivate you to achieve better things. We all have to experience struggles and challenges in life. It’s in those situations when we often learn the most about ourselves. This is especially important for our youth to learn and experienceThere is much more that is learned in school than simply the subject matter of the classes. Kids learn how to learn, they develop discipline to stick to a schedule, challenge themselves with subjects that they don’t necessarily like or want to learn about, they learn social skills, sports and extra curricular activities etc. It is the best environment to prepare them for the real world on many levels.Interesting question.
To be honest, I’m split.
You would think I would support mandatory schooling up until age 21. But how many years really are necessary to learn the basics that makes for a literate citizenry?
5th, 6th grade?
How much do we learn in high school do we really use in real life? What I remember back in high school, it was like a forced buffet. You had to have a taste of everything. Although it was in those years that my writing skills grew.
It can definitely be improved in many areas but it is a great system and essential to a prosperous society
Some learn those things. And some learn they hate school.
To an extent. If it’s something you hate that gets you to a larger goal, then fine.
I liked school. But then again, I still like to learn. Not everyone has that experience, and it feels like a waste of time if it’s not leading you to a life goal.
But then how do you apply that lesson to the real world? People have to go to work every day and do you wanna guess how many people hate working or hate their jobs? Yet they have to do it to survive.My first job was a laborer for a construction project and I learned that I hated digging trenches and clearing garbage piles. I wanted to be the guy with the hammer or the guy with the blueprints both of whom were getting paid way more than the guys sweating in the dirt. This is what made me start taking school and going to college seriously. My point is, sometimes experiencing things you hate can motivate you to achieve better things. We all have to experience struggles and challenges in life. It’s in those situations when we often learn the most about ourselves. This is especially important for our youth to learn and experienceThere is much more that is learned in school than simply the subject matter of the classes. Kids learn how to learn, they develop discipline to stick to a schedule, challenge themselves with subjects that they don’t necessarily like or want to learn about, they learn social skills, sports and extra curricular activities etc. It is the best environment to prepare them for the real world on many levels.Interesting question.
To be honest, I’m split.
You would think I would support mandatory schooling up until age 21. But how many years really are necessary to learn the basics that makes for a literate citizenry?
5th, 6th grade?
How much do we learn in high school do we really use in real life? What I remember back in high school, it was like a forced buffet. You had to have a taste of everything. Although it was in those years that my writing skills grew.
It can definitely be improved in many areas but it is a great system and essential to a prosperous society
Some learn those things. And some learn they hate school.
To an extent. If it’s something you hate that gets you to a larger goal, then fine.
I liked school. But then again, I still like to learn. Not everyone has that experience, and it feels like a waste of time if it’s not leading you to a life goal.
Learning to triump in situations that you hate is a great life lesson or else what are we teaching our kids? As soon as you hate your job, quit? As soon as your relationship gets hard bail?
I just don’t see a down side to instilling our children with lessons of discipline and challenge in their developing years. How they decide to use those lessons when they become an adult is up to them, but at least we are preparing them the best we can for what they will face later in life.
I didnt learn REAL history until i graduated high school. Just throwing that out there.I believe that at least a general education is necessary. There are too many things in life that can cost you. General economics, learning how to get along with others, an understanding of math, English, and even history.
If we do not remember history you are doomed to repeat it. Math to balance a checkbook and all the other necessities. English so you can communicate with others, read safety notices, even understand a contract.
It maybe better to have alternate schools for those that struggle with the usual school setting.
No need to go to school or work in today's society. Live off of the government. Somebody else will pay.
I appreciate that, it lends to a good debate. Problem kids are definatley an issue, I guess I would argue that it all exists in the real world. Our communities have crime and homelessness that makes things harder for others. Our workplaces often have bad apples that make life tough for others. Learning how to achieve success despite the barriers and how to lift the problem people up are both great skills to learn in school which can be translated to the real world.But then how do you apply that lesson to the real world? People have to go to work every day and do you wanna guess how many people hate working or hate their jobs? Yet they have to do it to survive.My first job was a laborer for a construction project and I learned that I hated digging trenches and clearing garbage piles. I wanted to be the guy with the hammer or the guy with the blueprints both of whom were getting paid way more than the guys sweating in the dirt. This is what made me start taking school and going to college seriously. My point is, sometimes experiencing things you hate can motivate you to achieve better things. We all have to experience struggles and challenges in life. It’s in those situations when we often learn the most about ourselves. This is especially important for our youth to learn and experienceThere is much more that is learned in school than simply the subject matter of the classes. Kids learn how to learn, they develop discipline to stick to a schedule, challenge themselves with subjects that they don’t necessarily like or want to learn about, they learn social skills, sports and extra curricular activities etc. It is the best environment to prepare them for the real world on many levels.
It can definitely be improved in many areas but it is a great system and essential to a prosperous society
Some learn those things. And some learn they hate school.
To an extent. If it’s something you hate that gets you to a larger goal, then fine.
I liked school. But then again, I still like to learn. Not everyone has that experience, and it feels like a waste of time if it’s not leading you to a life goal.
Learning to triump in situations that you hate is a great life lesson or else what are we teaching our kids? As soon as you hate your job, quit? As soon as your relationship gets hard bail?
I just don’t see a down side to instilling our children with lessons of discipline and challenge in their developing years. How they decide to use those lessons when they become an adult is up to them, but at least we are preparing them the best we can for what they will face later in life.
The downside is that high schoolers who don’t want to be there can make it harder on everyone else.
That’s where the behavior issues come in.
I don’t necessarily disagree with you; I’m just playong devil’s advocate.
Wouldnt it be easier on everyone if the only people there, were people that wanted to be there?
I appreciate that, it lends to a good debate. Problem kids are definatley an issue, I guess I would argue that it all exists in the real world. Our communities have crime and homelessness that makes things harder for others. Our workplaces often have mad apples that make life tough for others. Learning how to achieve success despite the barriers and how to lift the problem people up are both great skills to learn in school which can be translated to the real world.But then how do you apply that lesson to the real world? People have to go to work every day and do you wanna guess how many people hate working or hate their jobs? Yet they have to do it to survive.My first job was a laborer for a construction project and I learned that I hated digging trenches and clearing garbage piles. I wanted to be the guy with the hammer or the guy with the blueprints both of whom were getting paid way more than the guys sweating in the dirt. This is what made me start taking school and going to college seriously. My point is, sometimes experiencing things you hate can motivate you to achieve better things. We all have to experience struggles and challenges in life. It’s in those situations when we often learn the most about ourselves. This is especially important for our youth to learn and experienceSome learn those things. And some learn they hate school.
To an extent. If it’s something you hate that gets you to a larger goal, then fine.
I liked school. But then again, I still like to learn. Not everyone has that experience, and it feels like a waste of time if it’s not leading you to a life goal.
Learning to triump in situations that you hate is a great life lesson or else what are we teaching our kids? As soon as you hate your job, quit? As soon as your relationship gets hard bail?
I just don’t see a down side to instilling our children with lessons of discipline and challenge in their developing years. How they decide to use those lessons when they become an adult is up to them, but at least we are preparing them the best we can for what they will face later in life.
The downside is that high schoolers who don’t want to be there can make it harder on everyone else.
That’s where the behavior issues come in.
I don’t necessarily disagree with you; I’m just playong devil’s advocate.
My girls is a school counselor so she deals with the “problem” kids most of the time. They are mostly good kids with tough home lives or mental issues. A healthy school environment is the best place for them, if you isolate all of them together then it creates a jail like atmosphere which severely limits opportunity.
So while I do see benefit and a need for secondary schools for some extreme cases I think we need to be very careful how we handle those situations.
5,6, and 7 year olds usually have parents lolWouldnt it be easier on everyone if the only people there, were people that wanted to be there?
Not very many children would be there. 5,6,7 year olds are generally not big picture people at that age.
Do you think school should be a requirement as it is right now?
There’s too much pressure in society for students who can’t make it through different grades.So you want to increase mandatory schooling? Because it is very strict now and that doesnt happen.Everyone should at least have a trade.
I know many people who dropped out of High School but can buld a house according to code.
