A Question for Those that Support Hamas

[Shusha]

You can't erase these people. Zionism is such a stupid idea to begin with.

The irony of insisting that a people can't be erased, then erasing them in the next sentence.

 

[MinTrut]

Thee OP should probaably ask Netanyahu this question since it was his strategy to prop up Hamas to prevent a 2 state solution.

Because I don't think anybody here supports Hamas.

^ Thread win.

 

[IM2]

Netaniahu did not "prop up" Hamas. Hamas gave the impression that it would accept the status quo.

The only ones preventing a two state solution have been the Arab leaders since 1937.

Look it up.

Yes, he did prop up Hamas.

 

[surada]

You have learned plenty.
Lie about the Jews. No matter how small, and there will be thousands of Christians and Muslims who will be ready to attack Jews anywhere, for any reason.

Jews have learned plenty from extremist Christians and Muslims. Which is exactly why Israel exists.

Israel exists because of persecutions in Europe. ..and that is not an excuse to have abused the Palestinians for 80 years.

The Templers: German settlers who left their mark on Palestine

In the 1860s a group of messianic German Christians called the Templers moved to the Holy Land to try to hasten the Second Coming of Christ. The project lasted 80 years, leaving behind a legacy which is still present to this day, as Raffi Berg reports.

www.bbc.com

 

[surada]

Netaniahu did not "prop up" Hamas. Hamas gave the impression that it would accept the status quo.

The only ones preventing a two state solution have been the Arab leaders since 1937.

Look it up.

Read the Likud Charter. They prevent a two state solution.

 

[surada]

The irony of insisting that a people can't be erased, then erasing them in the next sentence.

There are as many Jewish people in the US as there are in Israel and they're doing fine without stealing land and killing Palestinians.

 

[IM2]

It's hard debating people in who had only choose to see 1 side..

 

[MinTrut]

Recognizing that organizations like Hamas are inevitable is not the same as supporting them.

As IM2 said, if you want to discuss actual support for Hamas, Netty is the guy to talk about.

He's murdering children by the thousands to continue his criminal reign, and belongs in prison with Bush II, Cheney, Obama, Clinton et al.

 

[surada]

Recognizing that organizations like Hamas are inevitable is not the same as supporting them.

As IM2 said, if you want to discuss actual support for Hamas, Netty is the guy to talk about.

He's murdering children by the thousands to continue his criminal reign, and belongs in prison with Bush II, Cheney, Obama, Clinton et al.

Hamas has been useful to Netanyahu. The Likud Charter and Hamas share the same zeal for preventing a 2 state solution. If they win, this conflict goes on indefinitely.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Israel exists because of persecutions in Europe. ..and that is not an excuse to have abused the Palestinians for 80 years.

The Templers: German settlers who left their mark on Palestine

In the 1860s a group of messianic German Christians called the Templers moved to the Holy Land to try to hasten the Second Coming of Christ. The project lasted 80 years, leaving behind a legacy which is still present to this day, as Raffi Berg reports.

www.bbc.com

Israel exists because of persecutions by Christians in Europe and Muslims in the Middle East. The pogroms which both religions committed against the Jews BEFORE the Zionist Convention of 1897.

Continue to believe ONLY the Arab version of history, the endless distortions and destruction of Jewish history by both haters of Jews.

The only ones really abusing millions of Arabs called Palestinians since 1964 are the Arab leaders who became fat cows from all the money they got out of Muslim countries, European and everywhere else in the world.

Keep fooling yourself. The ones to pay for your foolishness are the Arabs in Gaza, PA, Lebanon, Syria, etc who are poor and used like worthless humanity for one purpose. Destroy Israel.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Read the Likud Charter. They prevent a two state solution.

Read History.

The Arabs have been rejecting an Arab State and a Jewish State since 1937.

To be precise, since the first riot in 1920.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Hamas has been useful to Netanyahu. The Likud Charter and Hamas share the same zeal for preventing a 2 state solution. If they win, this conflict goes on indefinitely.

This is your new strategy? Actually, not yours but borrowed from some Arab anti Israel site.

Nothing changes.

The truth changes with you depending on what the next NEW article you find.

 

[Shusha]

There are as many Jewish people in the US as there are in Israel and they're doing fine without stealing land and killing Palestinians.

Your arguments are ridiculously inconsistent. You claim that the Jewish people have been in the land for 4000 years. Why wouldn't (at least some of) that land belong to the Jewish people and their history? Also, there are many Palestinians in the US and they are doing fine without stealing land and slaughtering Jews (at least so far).

 

[Sixties Fan]

There are as many Jewish people in the US as there are in Israel and they're doing fine without stealing land and killing Palestinians.

Who are the Indigenous people and who are the colonizers?

Who migrated and bought land only to see it taken away by force and expelled during a war against them?

Who was expelled from Gaza in 1920?

Who was massacred and expelled from Hebron, oldest Jewish city in Israel, in 1929?

Who was expelled from TransJordan in 1925?

Who was expelled from Judea, Samaria and the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem in 1948.


The above is just a reminder of who has a right to what and where, and did not steal or kill anyone in order to get that house or land, long before the Mandate for Palestine.

 

[surada]

Israel exists because of persecutions by Christians in Europe and Muslims in the Middle East. The pogroms which both religions committed against the Jews BEFORE the Zionist Convention of 1897.

Continue to believe ONLY the Arab version of history, the endless distortions and destruction of Jewish history by both haters of Jews.

The only ones really abusing millions of Arabs called Palestinians since 1964 are the Arab leaders who became fat cows from all the money they got out of Muslim countries, European and everywhere else in the world.

Keep fooling yourself. The ones to pay for your foolishness are the Arabs in Gaza, PA, Lebanon, Syria, etc who are poor and used like worthless humanity for one purpose. Destroy Israel.

Jews weren't abused by the Arabs. Mostly they prospered in Muslim countries until Zionists arrived in Palestine.

There's no reason the Jewish refugees couldn't have made their lives alongside Arab speaking Christians and Muslims, but that was NEVER the goal of Zionism.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Jews weren't abused by the Arabs. Mostly they prospered in Muslim countries until Zionists arrived in Palestine.

There's no reason the Jewish refugees couldn't have made their lives alongside Arab speaking Christians and Muslims, but that was NEVER the goal of Zionism.

Are you done with your revised history?

Or rather the "I really do not care about what happened, I am just repeating what I was told " History?

 

[surada]

Who are the Indigenous people and who are the colonizers?

Who migrated and bought land only to see it taken away by force and expelled during a war against them?

Who was expelled from Gaza in 1920?

Who was massacred and expelled from Hebron, oldest Jewish city in Israel, in 1929?

Who was expelled from TransJordan in 1925?

Who was expelled from Judea, Samaria and the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem in 1948.


The above is just a reminder of who has a right to what and where, and did not steal or kill anyone in order to get that house or land, long before the Mandate for Palestine.

Are you talking about the German colony of dairy farmers?

The Jews were given land by the UN even after all the horrible things that the Jewish terror gangs like Irgun and Hagannah did.

Chaim Wisemann approached Aramco and ibn Saud in 1950. He wanted to forcibly move the rest of the Palestinians to Arabia.

The Israelis are damaged people. The worst of them are the West Bank settlers.

 

[surada]

Are you done with your revised history?

Or rather the "I really do not care about what happened, I am just repeating what I was told " History?

You forget that I'm old. I remember what the Israelis did all through the 1950s.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Are you talking about the German colony of dairy farmers?

The Jews were given land by the UN even after all the horrible things that the Jewish terror gangs like Irgun and Hagannah did.

Chaim Wisemann approached Aramco and ibn Saud in 1950. He wanted to forcibly move the rest of the Palestinians to Arabia.

The Israelis are damaged people. The worst of them are the West Bank settlers.

Jews were buying land as soon as the Ottomans started selling land in the 1850s. Learn history. That was BEFORE Herzl and Zionism.

Not to count all the Jews who kept coming back to their homeland EVERY century before that.

You really do NOT care to understand the Balfour Declaration, the San Remo Accord and the Mandate for Palestine.

Your loss.

This....is the truth about Arab feelings about Jews.
Hard to see how ALL Arabs got along with Jews before WWI. Especially how easily Al Hussaini pushed the Arab buttons against the Jews from 1920 on.

 

[Sixties Fan]

You forget that I'm old. I remember what the Israelis did all through the 1950s.

There are Arabs who are older than you and they know how they treated Jews before 1950.