A Review of the "Putin Ploy"

[IanC]

Isn't all this futile whining and complaining by the Democrats giving Putin exactly what he wanted?

What a wimp Obama is. He should have shut up about it after his famous "I told him to cut it out" was uttered.

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

Every post past the OP is trolling and off topic. Obviously all you left wing loons have left are insults.



Thank heavens for the report button. This shit keeps up I'm going to begin to embrace it.

OH LOOK! TinyMind just posted off topic and it is going to report itself!

 

[PoliticalChic]

Isn't all this futile whining and complaining by the Democrats giving Putin exactly what he wanted?

What a wimp Obama is. He should have shut up about it after his famous "I told him to cut it out" was uttered.

Maybe the back-stabbing snake should have threatened Putin with a 'red line in the sand'?

 

[Wry Catcher]

Let me begin with what is the only true and logical conclusion of the entire episode:
....the aim is to de-legitimize the new administration, and make it more difficult for Trump to be a success in foreign policy.



Now...the review:

1. The constant drumbeat is aimed at poisoning any chance that the new administration has of finding areas of compatibility with Russia.

2. Assuming, arguendo, that leaking material about the Democrats and their candidate were aimed at influencing the electorate, list those things that the electorate knew from the 'leaks' that they didn't know before.
There are none.



3. What evidence has the 'intelligence community' provided beyond conjecture and/or 'consensus.'
Blaming is not the same as proving.

4. "Beyond the government’s headline assertion that Russia is to blame, “it’s important to parse the public statement pretty closely,” said Susan Hennessey, a national security fellow at the Brookings Institution. “They’re being really careful in their word choice.”
The Department of Homeland Security and Office of the Director of National Intelligence on Election Security said in a statement earlier this month that “only Russia’s senior-most officials could have authorized these activities.”
But that statement does not mean that the U.S. has “direct evidence of senior official-level involvement,” Hennessey said.
Without more definitive statements, it’s difficult for some technical experts to take the government’s word on faith, she and others have said.

“There’s no evidence that this was done by the state itself, only evidence it was done by non-state actors that might be Russian-speaking,” said Jeffrey Carr, CEO of the cyber security consultancy firm Taia Global, referring to the evidence available to the public.

That evidence, which was released by private threat assessment companies rather than official channels, indicates hackers used Cyrillic keyboards and operated during Moscow working hours.
But indicators of identity like timestamps, language preferences and IP addresses “can be manipulated or faked rather easily,” said Juan Andres Guerrero-Saade, a senior security researcher at Kaspersky Lab."
Does the U.S. government really know who hacked Democrats' emails?



5. Could a 14-yr-old have done the 'hacking'?
"Technically, an enterprising 14-year-old could have tricked John Podesta...":
Could a 14-Year-Old Have Hacked John Podesta?




6. While the Democrats would love to claim expertise for the intelligence community....
a. the have been totally wrong and incompetent in a number of cases...and
b. the Democrat in Congress....the Otis Pike Committees and Frank Church Committees totally emasculated the apparatus. Many have said that their policies were responsible for 9/11.




7. The attempt to paint Trump as trying to cozy up to Putin ignores Hillary's "reset button" and Obama's 'flexibility' promises. The snake actually stopped placing defensive structures in Europe to win Putin's favor.

8. If Trump were going to be submissive to Putin, how to explain Dan Coates as Trump's pick for Director of National Intelligence:
Coates was forbidden to go to Russia by Putin for comparing him to Hitler:
"people from the US had been similarly blacklisted, including ... and Dan Coats of Indiana, a former US ambassador to Germany. “While I’m disappointed that I won’t be able to go on vacation with my family in Siberia this summer,” Coats wisecracked, “I am honored to be on this list.”Chrystia Freeland: My Ukraine, and Putin’s big lie




9. Consider this: both may by true- Russia trying to influence the election....and Demorcrats using the "Putin Ploy" to de-legitimize a Trump presidency.


10. It is, in fact, the only logical conclusion:
....the aim is to de-legitimize the new administration, and make it more difficult for Trump to be a success in foreign policy.

You've spent years trying to "de-legitimize" every Democratic President from Wilson to Obama, and demeaned every Democrat as a leftist, Fascist, Socialist, Marxist, Commie, and now defend a former member of the KGB and leader of a Communist Nation whose having a bromance with the P-e!

You're more fucked up than even I considered you to be!


whose having a bromance with the P-e!

You're more fucked up than even I considered you to be!

1. "You've spent years trying to "de-legitimize" every Democratic President from Wilson to Obama,..."
You've ended any suggestion of credibility before you even begin!
"...trying..."????
When have I ever been less than 100% successful, you dunce???


2."...and demeaned every Democrat as a leftist, Fascist, Socialist, Marxist, Commie,..."
And, a perfect example of my 100% accuracy!
There is no difference between the aims of the modern Democrat Party and the Communist Party, USA.

Watch:
....take a look at the aims of the Communist Party, USA, and the aims of the modern Democrat Party.

Watch, and note the consubstantial basis of both the aims of the Communist Party and the Democrat Party:

......it is ...extraordinary.....the correspondence between the aims of the communist party and the aims of the Democrats.....

1. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

2. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces.

3. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

4. . Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.


5. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

6. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

7. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

8. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

9. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

10. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.


11. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

12. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

13. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce



Now....wouldn't an honest appraisal agree that all or almost all are clearly the aims and direction of Democrats/Liberals/Progressive leaders?

I got 'em from a website of declared communist goals...

The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals
The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals


3."...now defend a former member of the KGB and leader of a Communist Nation ..."
Defend?
Whereso?
Show that 'defense'....or admit that you are a lying Liberal....Oooop! a redundancy.


4. "You're more fucked up than even I considered you to be!"
Clean up your language, you low-life scum.

Ladies and Gentlemen, oh, and members of the USMB on the far right, this post is witness to the reaction one can expect when one does not kiss a narcissist's ass, and instead kicks it.

Forgive me PC, allow me to rephrase: You are more screwed up than even I consider you to be.

Does that assuage your prodigious Id?

"Does that assuage your prodigious Id?"

I'd suggest you restrict you posts to words and topics you can define, and understand....

....but, then you'd be mute.


The issue is 'intellect,' not Id.

In your case the issue is character, and thus my words and topic were spot on!

 

[Damaged Eagle]

Ladies and Gentlemen, oh, and members of the USMB on the far right, this post is witness to the reaction one can expect when one does not kiss a narcissist's ass, and instead kicks it.

Forgive me PC, allow me to rephrase: You are more screwed up than even I consider you to be.

Does that assuage your prodigious Id?

Which still doesn't show any proof that the Ruskies manipulated the election.

Please display these e-mails and such that are the progressive proof. While you're at it how about displaying some e-mails about Benghazi and the Fast & Furious..... That is if the e-mail evidence has't been "accidentally" wiped clean yet.

*****CHUCKLE*****

 

[PoliticalChic]

Let me begin with what is the only true and logical conclusion of the entire episode:
....the aim is to de-legitimize the new administration, and make it more difficult for Trump to be a success in foreign policy.



Now...the review:

1. The constant drumbeat is aimed at poisoning any chance that the new administration has of finding areas of compatibility with Russia.

2. Assuming, arguendo, that leaking material about the Democrats and their candidate were aimed at influencing the electorate, list those things that the electorate knew from the 'leaks' that they didn't know before.
There are none.



3. What evidence has the 'intelligence community' provided beyond conjecture and/or 'consensus.'
Blaming is not the same as proving.

4. "Beyond the government’s headline assertion that Russia is to blame, “it’s important to parse the public statement pretty closely,” said Susan Hennessey, a national security fellow at the Brookings Institution. “They’re being really careful in their word choice.”
The Department of Homeland Security and Office of the Director of National Intelligence on Election Security said in a statement earlier this month that “only Russia’s senior-most officials could have authorized these activities.”
But that statement does not mean that the U.S. has “direct evidence of senior official-level involvement,” Hennessey said.
Without more definitive statements, it’s difficult for some technical experts to take the government’s word on faith, she and others have said.

“There’s no evidence that this was done by the state itself, only evidence it was done by non-state actors that might be Russian-speaking,” said Jeffrey Carr, CEO of the cyber security consultancy firm Taia Global, referring to the evidence available to the public.

That evidence, which was released by private threat assessment companies rather than official channels, indicates hackers used Cyrillic keyboards and operated during Moscow working hours.
But indicators of identity like timestamps, language preferences and IP addresses “can be manipulated or faked rather easily,” said Juan Andres Guerrero-Saade, a senior security researcher at Kaspersky Lab."
Does the U.S. government really know who hacked Democrats' emails?



5. Could a 14-yr-old have done the 'hacking'?
"Technically, an enterprising 14-year-old could have tricked John Podesta...":
Could a 14-Year-Old Have Hacked John Podesta?




6. While the Democrats would love to claim expertise for the intelligence community....
a. the have been totally wrong and incompetent in a number of cases...and
b. the Democrat in Congress....the Otis Pike Committees and Frank Church Committees totally emasculated the apparatus. Many have said that their policies were responsible for 9/11.




7. The attempt to paint Trump as trying to cozy up to Putin ignores Hillary's "reset button" and Obama's 'flexibility' promises. The snake actually stopped placing defensive structures in Europe to win Putin's favor.

8. If Trump were going to be submissive to Putin, how to explain Dan Coates as Trump's pick for Director of National Intelligence:
Coates was forbidden to go to Russia by Putin for comparing him to Hitler:
"people from the US had been similarly blacklisted, including ... and Dan Coats of Indiana, a former US ambassador to Germany. “While I’m disappointed that I won’t be able to go on vacation with my family in Siberia this summer,” Coats wisecracked, “I am honored to be on this list.”Chrystia Freeland: My Ukraine, and Putin’s big lie




9. Consider this: both may by true- Russia trying to influence the election....and Demorcrats using the "Putin Ploy" to de-legitimize a Trump presidency.


10. It is, in fact, the only logical conclusion:
....the aim is to de-legitimize the new administration, and make it more difficult for Trump to be a success in foreign policy.

You've spent years trying to "de-legitimize" every Democratic President from Wilson to Obama, and demeaned every Democrat as a leftist, Fascist, Socialist, Marxist, Commie, and now defend a former member of the KGB and leader of a Communist Nation whose having a bromance with the P-e!

You're more fucked up than even I considered you to be!


whose having a bromance with the P-e!

You're more fucked up than even I considered you to be!

1. "You've spent years trying to "de-legitimize" every Democratic President from Wilson to Obama,..."
You've ended any suggestion of credibility before you even begin!
"...trying..."????
When have I ever been less than 100% successful, you dunce???


2."...and demeaned every Democrat as a leftist, Fascist, Socialist, Marxist, Commie,..."
And, a perfect example of my 100% accuracy!
There is no difference between the aims of the modern Democrat Party and the Communist Party, USA.

Watch:
....take a look at the aims of the Communist Party, USA, and the aims of the modern Democrat Party.

Watch, and note the consubstantial basis of both the aims of the Communist Party and the Democrat Party:

......it is ...extraordinary.....the correspondence between the aims of the communist party and the aims of the Democrats.....

1. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

2. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces.

3. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

4. . Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.


5. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

6. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

7. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

8. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

9. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

10. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.


11. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

12. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

13. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce



Now....wouldn't an honest appraisal agree that all or almost all are clearly the aims and direction of Democrats/Liberals/Progressive leaders?

I got 'em from a website of declared communist goals...

The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals
The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals


3."...now defend a former member of the KGB and leader of a Communist Nation ..."
Defend?
Whereso?
Show that 'defense'....or admit that you are a lying Liberal....Oooop! a redundancy.


4. "You're more fucked up than even I considered you to be!"
Clean up your language, you low-life scum.

Ladies and Gentlemen, oh, and members of the USMB on the far right, this post is witness to the reaction one can expect when one does not kiss a narcissist's ass, and instead kicks it.

Forgive me PC, allow me to rephrase: You are more screwed up than even I consider you to be.

Does that assuage your prodigious Id?

"Does that assuage your prodigious Id?"

I'd suggest you restrict you posts to words and topics you can define, and understand....

....but, then you'd be mute.


The issue is 'intellect,' not Id.

In your case the issue is character, and thus my words and topic were spot on!

How about we leave that up to readers of our individual posts.

 

[tinydancer]

Every post past the OP is trolling and off topic. Obviously all you left wing loons have left are insults.



Thank heavens for the report button. This shit keeps up I'm going to begin to embrace it.

OH LOOK! TinyMind just posted off topic and it is going to report itself!

For crying out loud it's not off topic. As a matter of fact it is important to give fair warning that the trolling aka breaking the rules in politics is getting out of hand.

Fair warning.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Ladies and Gentlemen, oh, and members of the USMB on the far right, this post is witness to the reaction one can expect when one does not kiss a narcissist's ass, and instead kicks it.

Forgive me PC, allow me to rephrase: You are more screwed up than even I consider you to be.

Does that assuage your prodigious Id?

Which still doesn't show any proof that the Ruskies manipulated the election.

Please display these e-mails and such that are the progressive proof. While you're at it how about displaying some e-mails about Benghazi and the Fast & Furious..... That is if they haven't been "accidentally" wiped clean yet.

*****CHUCKLE*****

What you are asking for are the names of covert operatives inside Russia, and the secret means and methods of our Intelligence Agencies. That will never be released and rightly so.

Of course your side finds it nice and dandy to hold persons indefinitely in custody at GTMO, without any of the Rights in our Bill of Rights, or in the Magna Carta.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Ladies and Gentlemen, oh, and members of the USMB on the far right, this post is witness to the reaction one can expect when one does not kiss a narcissist's ass, and instead kicks it.

Forgive me PC, allow me to rephrase: You are more screwed up than even I consider you to be.

Does that assuage your prodigious Id?

Which still doesn't show any proof that the Ruskies manipulated the election.

Please display these e-mails and such that are the progressive proof. While you're at it how about displaying some e-mails about Benghazi and the Fast & Furious..... That is if they haven't been "accidentally" wiped clean yet.

*****CHUCKLE*****

What you are asking for are the names of covert operatives inside Russia, and the secret means and methods of our Intelligence Agencies. That will never be released and rightly so.

Of course your side finds it nice and dandy to hold persons indefinitely in custody at GTMO, without any of the Rights in our Bill of Rights, or in the Magna Carta.

AGAIN it fall so me to instruct you in language and concepts!

"What you are asking for are the names of covert operatives inside Russia,"

NO.....he's forcing you to admit you cannot come up with any...ANY.....proof.


Here's the appropriate term for your post:

SPIN.

Spin…altering the truth without altering the facts.

A lie which has somehow been legitimized by an uneducated public. See newspeak, doublespeak

Public relations term, referring to slightly altering facts to portray a desired version of a story.




Now....be sure to come back when you have the proof he demanded.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Ladies and Gentlemen, oh, and members of the USMB on the far right, this post is witness to the reaction one can expect when one does not kiss a narcissist's ass, and instead kicks it.

Forgive me PC, allow me to rephrase: You are more screwed up than even I consider you to be.

Does that assuage your prodigious Id?

Which still doesn't show any proof that the Ruskies manipulated the election.

Please display these e-mails and such that are the progressive proof. While you're at it how about displaying some e-mails about Benghazi and the Fast & Furious..... That is if they haven't been "accidentally" wiped clean yet.

*****CHUCKLE*****

What you are asking for are the names of covert operatives inside Russia, and the secret means and methods of our Intelligence Agencies. That will never be released and rightly so.

Of course your side finds it nice and dandy to hold persons indefinitely in custody at GTMO, without any of the Rights in our Bill of Rights, or in the Magna Carta.

"Of course your side finds it nice and dandy to hold persons indefinitely in custody at GTMO, without any of the Rights in our Bill of Rights, or in the Magna Carta."

OMG!!!!!

Why should I go to the trouble of proving you're an imbecile when you do so well all by yourself.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

Ladies and Gentlemen, oh, and members of the USMB on the far right, this post is witness to the reaction one can expect when one does not kiss a narcissist's ass, and instead kicks it.

Forgive me PC, allow me to rephrase: You are more screwed up than even I consider you to be.

Does that assuage your prodigious Id?

Which still doesn't show any proof that the Ruskies manipulated the election.

Please display these e-mails and such that are the progressive proof. While you're at it how about displaying some e-mails about Benghazi and the Fast & Furious..... That is if they haven't been "accidentally" wiped clean yet.

*****CHUCKLE*****

What you are asking for are the names of covert operatives inside Russia, and the secret means and methods of our Intelligence Agencies. That will never be released and rightly so.

Of course your side finds it nice and dandy to hold persons indefinitely in custody at GTMO, without any of the Rights in our Bill of Rights, or in the Magna Carta.

So that's a "NO" you don't have any proof for your accusations against Russia and that you want the spies held in GITMO to be dealt with as spies vie the Geneva Convention.

*****CHUCKLE*****

 

[GWV5903]

What you are asking for are the names of covert operatives inside Russia, and the secret means and methods of our Intelligence Agencies. That will never be released and rightly so.

No kidding and when is the last time the Director of the CIA was in a Public Congressional Hearing testifying about spying? You lost Snowflake, take all your little toys back home and crawl into bed, the Adults are Back In Charge, we'll let you know when the need for the "D" Team is needed...

Of course your side finds it nice and dandy to hold persons indefinitely in custody at GTMO, without any of the Rights in our Bill of Rights, or in the Magna Carta.

They are Enemy Combatants and the majority of them that have been released should be shot on site, the rest can rot in there for all I care...

 

[mamooth]

Everyone knows how you are referred to....but I don't employ that sort of language.

Since you insist, I'll type the words.

пизда

Pronounced like "peez-DAH"

It's exceedingly rude, and it's how the Russians refer to Trump. They never referred to Obama or the Clintons in such terms.

But then, the majority of Americans refer to Trump in such terms as well, something that the Snowflakes here can't handle.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Everyone knows how you are referred to....but I don't employ that sort of language.

Since you insist, I'll type the words.

пизда

Pronounced like "peez-DAH"

It's exceedingly rude, and it's how the Russians refer to Trump. They never referred to Obama or the Clintons in such terms.

But then, the majority of Americans refer to Trump in such terms as well, something that the Snowflakes here can't handle.

When you began lying the Dead Sea was just a bit under the weather.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Coulter just sent this out:

"The intell community says Putin tried to influence the election.

The US may charge him with espionage & impersonating a New York Times editor."

 

[tinydancer]

Coulter just sent this out:

"The intell community says Putin tried to influence the election.

The US may charge him with espionage & impersonating a New York Times editor."

Annnie be best be careful. She and \barbara were the best in the old days. Cripes no one could touch them. Her better in Batteries Not Inluded wellmade me hers for forever.

 

[SmokeALib]

It's a shame the OP is too stupid to be embarrassed by her own stupidity. That takes the fun out of making her look stupid.

You look like a dumass every time you spew.