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So why are you on here trying to scare the heretics back to Jesus?I'm not motivated by the threat of hell, but I am motivated by the hope of Heaven.
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So why are you on here trying to scare the heretics back to Jesus?I'm not motivated by the threat of hell, but I am motivated by the hope of Heaven.
No. I'm talking about the one inflicting horrible torture on its own creation after they die.No, I'm saying a person who lived a bad life inflicted horrible pain on themselves. Like Annette.
Again, the people do it to themselves. What is it about the atheist left that they think there should be no personal responsibility?No. I'm talking about the one inflicting horrible torture on its own creation after they die.
Because that exterior force is the force behind the horrible torture.Again, the people do it to themselves. Why do you keep blaming an exterior force?
No, it's the person doing it to themselves, through their own choice.Because that exterior force is the force behind the horrible torture.
They would never make the choice to be horribly tortured by a loving being. That choice was made by the loving being.No, it's the person doing it to themselves, through their own choice.
Why would people make that choice?
Tell me something. Is it true that the god knows the beginning to end, and the end from the beginning?No, it's the person doing it to themselves, through their own choice.
Why would people make that choice?
You still want to deny personal responsibility. Why?They would never make the choice to be horribly tortured by a loving being. That choice was made by the loving being.
I think this would be the time to ask you what your definition of love is because that's where your confusion stems from.
I just wanted to confirm that you believe that, even though the horrible torture is the god's revenge for being denied love, you still believe it's holy and loving.You still want to deny personal responsibility. Why?
Why do you continue to deny personal responsibility? If you state otherwise again, I'll have to put you on iggy with nine others.I just wanted to confirm that you believe that, even though the horrible torture is the god's revenge for being denied love, you still believe it's holy and loving.
I guess it doesn't just zap sinners out of existence because it's not really in charge of things. But it is . . .
Does the god know the beginning to the end, and the end from the beginning?
You still want to cover up for an atrocious character whose response to disobedience is to inflict horrible pain on the disobedient for ever and ever.
It's not.just the facts
Because they may not be at the level yet to be motivated by heaven.So why are you on here trying to scare the heretics back to Jesus?
Do tell.....all born sinners....It's not.
Do you believe those in hell wish to be rehabilitated?Being eternal, the function of Hell cannot be to rehabilitate sinners.
Do you believe a spirit feels physical pain?You're saying that this god of yours benefits from inflicting horrible pain onto its own creation when that creation is deemed insincere when they die. Correct?
He may not be trying to scare anyone, only to give them food for thought--something to contemplate. One cannot be scared back to Jesus anymore than the opposite poles of a magnet can be drawn together. Love and hate are opposite poles, as are goodness and evil.So why are you on here trying to scare the heretics back to Jesus?
Why do you call someone's choice a horrible torture? Again, think of hating someone so much you wanted nothing to do with them, but despite this, being forced not only to spend eternity with the being one hates, but being forced to do it with love. Wouldn't the reaction then be, "Just leave me alone with my hate!" We have a hand in our own creation, in our own destiny.No. I'm talking about the one inflicting horrible torture on its own creation after they die.
I believe you have it backwards. While I don't give a lot of credence to that video, it does make the point that those in hell, given the choice, choose hell, and even an existence in hell does not cause them to change their minds--nor do they have the wish to change their minds. They are who they are and they have no wish to change that.They would never make the choice to be horribly tortured by a loving being. That choice was made by the loving being.