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That's right. I'm not for people stealing others' resources. That's what illegals are doing. Stealing. Illegally. That's for starters.
For enders, you don't know the particulars of the situations in which people are in nursing homes. Usually they require constant care and close monitoring of medications, which no one can provide unless they quit their jobs to care for them nearly around the clock. Or, they require wheelchairs to get around, etc. At that point, families have to make hard decisions.
I do some voluntary work for the social services, which involves visitations to a care home. Old age and infirmity used to be a one dimensional concept for me, but now I feel confronted by harsh reality. Some of it is heartbreaking to watch. Like G-D's waiting room.
As you said, elderly citizens; those people were young and full of vitality once.
The guy I visit had an exciting career once, working around the world, lived in exciting places. Now he has no one, uses one of those walkers to get around.
I think the thing is, we never contemplated a society where lots of people would live into their 70's and 80's. No longer capable of caring for themselves or producing an income, but too much of a burden for their families after a certain point.
Of course, the very "Christian" OP was that mean old illegals were taking resources meant for relatives that other good Christians dumped in nursing homes.
Has it ever occurred to you that some of these people require 24/7 medical care? Or are in some stage of dementia and it is impossible to watch them or fight them 24/7? The US has a lengthy history of nursing homes.
Ya, it has nothing to do with taxes. It has to do with lowering wages.
I agree but what do you mean by your last two sentences?
You're a very simple thinker, Joe. A shame for a person your age, but there it is.
Last night we visited an elderly family member at a care home. I was pleased to see that the care staff seems competent and friendly. My family member reports she is being well cared for, the food is good, and she gets good rest.
This is no less than she deserves, having paid into "the system" for years and years. (We can debate another day whether we need 'a system' at all). As she was reporting that Medicaid would give her a ride to her doctor appointments, I thought of the money all her care was costing. Again, she deserves this care. We owe it to our elderly citizens who have paid in and raised our young ones.
And then I thought of the thousands of people stealing over the border every year, taking money out of the system without ever having put a darn thing in. And they people who support this. Who say it's immoral NOT to support this.
It seems to me, if you support this, you are supporting taking money away from American citizens who really need it. Resources are finite. Money runs out. If you raise taxes, the economy slows and the funds dry up.
Given the scenario above, it seems incomprehensible to me that Americans do not want to seal the border. Can anyone make the case?
I do some voluntary work for the social services, which involves visitations to a care home. Old age and infirmity used to be a one dimensional concept for me, but now I feel confronted by harsh reality. Some of it is heartbreaking to watch. Like G-D's waiting room.
As you said, elderly citizens; those people were young and full of vitality once.
The guy I visit had an exciting career once, working around the world, lived in exciting places. Now he has no one, uses one of those walkers to get around.
Elderly care has gotten better, but I agree it's heartbreaking in so many cases. I couldn't do it--I couldn't tend to elderly people, God bless those who do, who have a heart for it. The heartbreak would show in my eyes, and they don't need that.
Aging is a part of life for many.
No, it's a part of life for ALL. The only exception is....the dead. If you're dead, you're not aging.
You're a very simple thinker, Joe. A shame for a person your age, but there it is.
Some problems are pretty simple. You've let the Rich steal your middle class lifestyle because they gave you someone to irrationally hate.
Just keep hating Gays and Mexicans, just like Jesus did.
I do some voluntary work for the social services, which involves visitations to a care home. Old age and infirmity used to be a one dimensional concept for me, but now I feel confronted by harsh reality. Some of it is heartbreaking to watch. Like G-D's waiting room.
As you said, elderly citizens; those people were young and full of vitality once.
The guy I visit had an exciting career once, working around the world, lived in exciting places. Now he has no one, uses one of those walkers to get around.
I think the thing is, we never contemplated a society where lots of people would live into their 70's and 80's. No longer capable of caring for themselves or producing an income, but too much of a burden for their families after a certain point.
Of course, the very "Christian" OP was that mean old illegals were taking resources meant for relatives that other good Christians dumped in nursing homes.
That's right. I'm not for people stealing others' resources. That's what illegals are doing. Stealing. Illegally. That's for starters.
For enders, you don't know the particulars of the situations in which people are in nursing homes. Usually they require constant care and close monitoring of medications, which no one can provide unless they quit their jobs to care for them nearly around the clock. Or, they require wheelchairs to get around, etc. At that point, families have to make hard decisions.
Judgmental much?
We do want to seal the borders. Do you know what we need to do? Put illegal employers in jail. Go after them.Last night we visited an elderly family member at a care home. I was pleased to see that the care staff seems competent and friendly. My family member reports she is being well cared for, the food is good, and she gets good rest.
This is no less than she deserves, having paid into "the system" for years and years. (We can debate another day whether we need 'a system' at all). As she was reporting that Medicaid would give her a ride to her doctor appointments, I thought of the money all her care was costing. Again, she deserves this care. We owe it to our elderly citizens who have paid in and raised our young ones.
And then I thought of the thousands of people stealing over the border every year, taking money out of the system without ever having put a darn thing in. And they people who support this. Who say it's immoral NOT to support this.
It seems to me, if you support this, you are supporting taking money away from American citizens who really need it. Resources are finite. Money runs out. If you raise taxes, the economy slows and the funds dry up.
Given the scenario above, it seems incomprehensible to me that Americans do not want to seal the border. Can anyone make the case?
You're a very simple thinker, Joe. A shame for a person your age, but there it is.
Some problems are pretty simple. You've let the Rich steal your middle class lifestyle because they gave you someone to irrationally hate.
Just keep hating Gays and Mexicans, just like Jesus did.
Sure, Joe. Cause there was a "Mexico" for Jesus to hate, way back in like 30 AD, right?
See what I mean, Joe? You like simple soundbites so you can just regurgitate them. Like thinking I hate Mexicans because....Jesus did. Sure, he did. Joe. He sure did hate them Mexicans. oh yeah
Last night we visited an elderly family member at a care home. I was pleased to see that the care staff seems competent and friendly. My family member reports she is being well cared for, the food is good, and she gets good rest.
This is no less than she deserves, having paid into "the system" for years and years. (We can debate another day whether we need 'a system' at all). As she was reporting that Medicaid would give her a ride to her doctor appointments, I thought of the money all her care was costing. Again, she deserves this care. We owe it to our elderly citizens who have paid in and raised our young ones.
And then I thought of the thousands of people stealing over the border every year, taking money out of the system without ever having put a darn thing in. And they people who support this. Who say it's immoral NOT to support this.
It seems to me, if you support this, you are supporting taking money away from American citizens who really need it. Resources are finite. Money runs out. If you raise taxes, the economy slows and the funds dry up.
Given the scenario above, it seems incomprehensible to me that Americans do not want to seal the border. Can anyone make the case?
I do some voluntary work for the social services, which involves visitations to a care home. Old age and infirmity used to be a one dimensional concept for me, but now I feel confronted by harsh reality. Some of it is heartbreaking to watch. Like G-D's waiting room.
As you said, elderly citizens; those people were young and full of vitality once.
The guy I visit had an exciting career once, working around the world, lived in exciting places. Now he has no one, uses one of those walkers to get around.
Elderly care has gotten better, but I agree it's heartbreaking in so many cases. I couldn't do it--I couldn't tend to elderly people, God bless those who do, who have a heart for it. The heartbreak would show in my eyes, and they don't need that.
Aging is a part of life for many.
No, it's a part of life for ALL. The only exception is....the dead. If you're dead, you're not aging.
That is why I said for many.
Sure, Joe. Cause there was a "Mexico" for Jesus to hate, way back in like 30 AD, right?
See what I mean, Joe? You like simple soundbites so you can just regurgitate them. Like thinking I hate Mexicans because....Jesus did. Sure, he did. Joe. He sure did hate them Mexicans. oh yeah
We do want to seal the borders. Do you know what we need to do? Put illegal employers in jail. Go after them.Last night we visited an elderly family member at a care home. I was pleased to see that the care staff seems competent and friendly. My family member reports she is being well cared for, the food is good, and she gets good rest.
This is no less than she deserves, having paid into "the system" for years and years. (We can debate another day whether we need 'a system' at all). As she was reporting that Medicaid would give her a ride to her doctor appointments, I thought of the money all her care was costing. Again, she deserves this care. We owe it to our elderly citizens who have paid in and raised our young ones.
And then I thought of the thousands of people stealing over the border every year, taking money out of the system without ever having put a darn thing in. And they people who support this. Who say it's immoral NOT to support this.
It seems to me, if you support this, you are supporting taking money away from American citizens who really need it. Resources are finite. Money runs out. If you raise taxes, the economy slows and the funds dry up.
Given the scenario above, it seems incomprehensible to me that Americans do not want to seal the border. Can anyone make the case?
Building a wall is no solution. After a few years the huge expensive wall will go ignored and start falling apart.
We are not building a wall just so trump can fulfill a campaign promise. Actually the promise was that Mexico would pay.
Sure, Joe. Cause there was a "Mexico" for Jesus to hate, way back in like 30 AD, right?
See what I mean, Joe? You like simple soundbites so you can just regurgitate them. Like thinking I hate Mexicans because....Jesus did. Sure, he did. Joe. He sure did hate them Mexicans. oh yeah
The point went right over your head, didn't it?
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The fact is that you call yourself a "Christian", but spend soooooo much time hating people who just want to make a better life for themselves and are willing to do disgusting jobs most of us wouldn't want to do...
This is the joke. I'm sorry it went over your head.
Prove that I hate them, Joe. Go ahead, Prove it, big talker.
I do some voluntary work for the social services, which involves visitations to a care home. Old age and infirmity used to be a one dimensional concept for me, but now I feel confronted by harsh reality. Some of it is heartbreaking to watch. Like G-D's waiting room.
As you said, elderly citizens; those people were young and full of vitality once.
The guy I visit had an exciting career once, working around the world, lived in exciting places. Now he has no one, uses one of those walkers to get around.
Elderly care has gotten better, but I agree it's heartbreaking in so many cases. I couldn't do it--I couldn't tend to elderly people, God bless those who do, who have a heart for it. The heartbreak would show in my eyes, and they don't need that.
Aging is a part of life for many.
No, it's a part of life for ALL. The only exception is....the dead. If you're dead, you're not aging.
That is why I said for many.
..................because you were excluding........the dead???
We do want to seal the borders. Do you know what we need to do? Put illegal employers in jail. Go after them.Last night we visited an elderly family member at a care home. I was pleased to see that the care staff seems competent and friendly. My family member reports she is being well cared for, the food is good, and she gets good rest.
This is no less than she deserves, having paid into "the system" for years and years. (We can debate another day whether we need 'a system' at all). As she was reporting that Medicaid would give her a ride to her doctor appointments, I thought of the money all her care was costing. Again, she deserves this care. We owe it to our elderly citizens who have paid in and raised our young ones.
And then I thought of the thousands of people stealing over the border every year, taking money out of the system without ever having put a darn thing in. And they people who support this. Who say it's immoral NOT to support this.
It seems to me, if you support this, you are supporting taking money away from American citizens who really need it. Resources are finite. Money runs out. If you raise taxes, the economy slows and the funds dry up.
Given the scenario above, it seems incomprehensible to me that Americans do not want to seal the border. Can anyone make the case?
Building a wall is no solution. After a few years the huge expensive wall will go ignored and start falling apart.
We are not building a wall just so trump can fulfill a campaign promise. Actually the promise was that Mexico would pay.
I agree we should go after employers who hire illegals. AND build the wall.
Sure, Joe. Cause there was a "Mexico" for Jesus to hate, way back in like 30 AD, right?
See what I mean, Joe? You like simple soundbites so you can just regurgitate them. Like thinking I hate Mexicans because....Jesus did. Sure, he did. Joe. He sure did hate them Mexicans. oh yeah
The point went right over your head, didn't it?
View attachment 238677
The fact is that you call yourself a "Christian", but spend soooooo much time hating people who just want to make a better life for themselves and are willing to do disgusting jobs most of us wouldn't want to do...
This is the joke. I'm sorry it went over your head.
I do some voluntary work for the social services, which involves visitations to a care home. Old age and infirmity used to be a one dimensional concept for me, but now I feel confronted by harsh reality. Some of it is heartbreaking to watch. Like G-D's waiting room.
As you said, elderly citizens; those people were young and full of vitality once.
The guy I visit had an exciting career once, working around the world, lived in exciting places. Now he has no one, uses one of those walkers to get around.
I think the thing is, we never contemplated a society where lots of people would live into their 70's and 80's. No longer capable of caring for themselves or producing an income, but too much of a burden for their families after a certain point.
Of course, the very "Christian" OP was that mean old illegals were taking resources meant for relatives that other good Christians dumped in nursing homes.
That's right. I'm not for people stealing others' resources. That's what illegals are doing. Stealing. Illegally. That's for starters.
For enders, you don't know the particulars of the situations in which people are in nursing homes. Usually they require constant care and close monitoring of medications, which no one can provide unless they quit their jobs to care for them nearly around the clock. Or, they require wheelchairs to get around, etc. At that point, families have to make hard decisions.
Judgmental much?
There's a woman in there, I'm sort of fascinated by her. She's ensconced in some kind of wheelchair, hooked up to a drip. Cannot feed herself. Just sitting there.
She has a very sweet face, but registers nothing, not even if you try to talk to her. So I suppose if she has family, she doesn't even know who they are. How heartbreaking is that?
I spoke to the staff, who seem very caring and attentive. They like that job, and get quite attached to the old residents.
Prove that I hate them, Joe. Go ahead, Prove it, big talker.
Um, this whole thread.
The Prosecution rests, your honor.
I’m certainly not opposed to securing the border so illegals terrorists and drugs can’t get through.We do want to seal the borders. Do you know what we need to do? Put illegal employers in jail. Go after them.Last night we visited an elderly family member at a care home. I was pleased to see that the care staff seems competent and friendly. My family member reports she is being well cared for, the food is good, and she gets good rest.
This is no less than she deserves, having paid into "the system" for years and years. (We can debate another day whether we need 'a system' at all). As she was reporting that Medicaid would give her a ride to her doctor appointments, I thought of the money all her care was costing. Again, she deserves this care. We owe it to our elderly citizens who have paid in and raised our young ones.
And then I thought of the thousands of people stealing over the border every year, taking money out of the system without ever having put a darn thing in. And they people who support this. Who say it's immoral NOT to support this.
It seems to me, if you support this, you are supporting taking money away from American citizens who really need it. Resources are finite. Money runs out. If you raise taxes, the economy slows and the funds dry up.
Given the scenario above, it seems incomprehensible to me that Americans do not want to seal the border. Can anyone make the case?
Building a wall is no solution. After a few years the huge expensive wall will go ignored and start falling apart.
We are not building a wall just so trump can fulfill a campaign promise. Actually the promise was that Mexico would pay.
I agree we should go after employers who hire illegals. AND build the wall.
