A vote for any democrat is a vote to end your ability to own a gun to protect your family...

[Bruce_T_Laney]

There is no doubt, there is no more lying...we saw it at the CNN 2 minutes of hate against gun owners......the democrats will destroy the 2nd Amendment if they are given the power to do it.......

Oh Look, Another Reason Why We Should Be Skeptical Of Democrats On Gun Control

Now, YouGov has a poll showing that 82 percent of Democrats want to ban semiautomatic firearms, while they’re evenly split on a total handgun ban.

This is where the party stands on gun rights, our civil right to own firearms. They want to shred the Second Amendment and the gauge of Democratic Party members offers a dark vision of what could come if enough of these people are elected to Congress. Allahpundit broke down the numbers:

As long as people like 2aguy lie, and the NRA and the Republican Party enable lassiez faire gun policy, innocents will die, and at some point - and maybe it has has been reached - rational people will demand that more laws and more restrictions are imposed.

BTW, a new school shooting at Central Michigan St. U. is underway. Two people were shot (condition unknown) and the shooter remains at large.

You call for more new laws, so why the laws you already have fail so miserably?

Is it because criminals refuse to obey them?

I mean you are in law enforcement, so can you explain why criminals never obey laws?

I am sure more laws will get them to obey and if not pass more and more until you pass a law that bans humanity...

 

[impuretrash]

nevermind the guns, a vote for democrats mean free sex change operations for anyone over the age of 3

 

[Pete7469]

I'd take it a step further....

No, on second though I'll take it a marathon further to the end of the fucking story.

A vote for a democrook is an effort to bring Orwell's nightmare chronicled in such works as 1984 and Animal Farm to reality.

The democrook party has become the global bolshevik party. The results will be exactly the same. They will ride to power on a wave of hatred and envy, buffered by absolute incompetence from government and assume absolute power. They will kill more people than can be counted. They will collectivize production, distribute the best of the spoils among themselves and ration the crumbs to the disarmed enslaved masses that adhere to their cults of personality. The grateful zealots will turn in "dissenters" for a ration of potatoes and turn humanity into an ant colony.

I can not express the contempt I have for the leftist tools that vapidly buy into the bullshit concept of "equality". There are diseases that have killed millions of people which seem cuddly compared to the weapons grade stupidity of modern leftist parasites.

 

[sealybobo]

Paranoid Schizophrenia ^^^, or too dumb to write anything of substance, thoughtful or thought provoking.

If you're not a commie, why do you faithfully vote for commies?

Republicans are brainwashed to think that their way is the best but just look at what they're way produces. More murder than every other country.

And don't blame us liberals because all those other countries who are less violent are more liberal than us.

So only republicans commit murder?

Our murder rate is skewed by just a few urban shitholes.

2% of all the counties in the US accounted for more than half of all murder
54% of all counties in the US had a murder rate that was virtually zero

Most murders are criminals killing other criminals

These are all facts that you people love to ignore

Until columbine, sandy hook, Vegas country music concert, black churches, white churches, republican charity softball games.

Clearly the gun industry needs to be regulated better.

 

[my2¢]

Yeah, like I want my wife to have ample access to a gun! Jeez.

 

[sealybobo]

Paranoid Schizophrenia ^^^, or too dumb to write anything of substance, thoughtful or thought provoking.

If you're not a commie, why do you faithfully vote for commies?

Republicans are brainwashed to think that their way is the best but just look at what they're way produces. More murder than every other country.

And don't blame us liberals because all those other countries who are less violent are more liberal than us.

So only republicans commit murder?

Our murder rate is skewed by just a few urban shitholes.

2% of all the counties in the US accounted for more than half of all murder
54% of all counties in the US had a murder rate that was virtually zero

Most murders are criminals killing other criminals

These are all facts that you people love to ignore

Those people's deaths don't matter? They do to me.

Don’t forget the rich white guy in Vegas who killed how many innocent people at a country music concert? Those weren’t gang members.

 

[undertherqadar]

Saul Alinsky

 

[sealybobo]

Paranoid Schizophrenia ^^^, or too dumb to write anything of substance, thoughtful or thought provoking.

If you're not a commie, why do you faithfully vote for commies?

Republicans are brainwashed to think that their way is the best but just look at what they're way produces. More murder than every other country.

And don't blame us liberals because all those other countries who are less violent are more liberal than us.

No......parts of our country controlled by democrats have high murder rates....the other parts..the parts where people own guns...our murder rates are as good or better than Europe.

If we take out the gun deaths of Chicago, NYC and Detroit...suddenly, we aren't a nation with a high rate of gun-caused death.

Weird, it's just black people, *immigrants*, and those living in gun-free cities that are responsible for the ridiculous high gun homicide rate in this country.

If we exclude the urban murders we still have the sandy hooks columbines and all the rest and you say no biggy?

 

[Eric Cartman]

Among other detriments. Democrats destroy everything they touch. I don't understand why so many continue to vote Democrat. When Democrats seize a community, it becomes destined to be a miserable hellhole. A vote for a Democrat is a vote against your own best interests.

I was thinking about that the other day and I thought about how Saul Alinsky, the guru of left wing destroyers of society dedicated his book Rules For Radicals, to satan.....he actually did this....

I think they suffer from the concept of wanting to rule in hell, rather than live in heaven.........because every city they control turns into a hell hole.......

Why is it that most people on the left don't talk about or have never heard of Saul Alinsky but all the talk radio and Fox News bots do? I guess we have Glen Beck and the conservative echo chamber to thank.

 

[LeftofLeft]

There is no doubt, there is no more lying...we saw it at the CNN 2 minutes of hate against gun owners......the democrats will destroy the 2nd Amendment if they are given the power to do it.......

Oh Look, Another Reason Why We Should Be Skeptical Of Democrats On Gun Control

Now, YouGov has a poll showing that 82 percent of Democrats want to ban semiautomatic firearms, while they’re evenly split on a total handgun ban.

This is where the party stands on gun rights, our civil right to own firearms. They want to shred the Second Amendment and the gauge of Democratic Party members offers a dark vision of what could come if enough of these people are elected to Congress. Allahpundit broke down the numbers:

Liberals only want cops and thugs to have guns.

 

[deanrd]

Republicans have confused a handgun with a bazooka.

 

[del]

tard

Oh, look, adhominem, and not a single word to counter his argument.

Thank you for becoming a shining example of leftist tactics.

no, no....thank you

 

[oreo]

There is no doubt, there is no more lying...we saw it at the CNN 2 minutes of hate against gun owners......the democrats will destroy the 2nd Amendment if they are given the power to do it.......

Oh Look, Another Reason Why We Should Be Skeptical Of Democrats On Gun Control

Now, YouGov has a poll showing that 82 percent of Democrats want to ban semiautomatic firearms, while they’re evenly split on a total handgun ban.

This is where the party stands on gun rights, our civil right to own firearms. They want to shred the Second Amendment and the gauge of Democratic Party members offers a dark vision of what could come if enough of these people are elected to Congress. Allahpundit broke down the numbers:

A vote for any Republican is a vote for more "sympathies and prayer vigils."

"The gun rights organization spent a stupendous $54.4 million in the 2016 election cycle, almost all of it in "independent expenditures," meaning spending for or against a candidate but not a direct contribution to a campaign. The money went almost entirely to Republicans to a degree that almost looks like a misprint (but isn't): Of independent expenditures totaling $52.6 million, Democrats received $265. Yes, that's 265 dollars.

If you're looking for a reason that politicians are quick to declare that their "thoughts and prayers" are with the victims of the horrific slaughters that have become virtually routine in American life, but do nothing further to stop them, look no further."
'Thoughts and prayers' — and fistfuls of NRA money: Why America can't control guns

 

[Moonglow]

What we got here is a failure to communicate......

 

[toobfreak]

tard

Yes, we're tard of you too.

 

[2aguy]

There is no doubt, there is no more lying...we saw it at the CNN 2 minutes of hate against gun owners......the democrats will destroy the 2nd Amendment if they are given the power to do it.......

Oh Look, Another Reason Why We Should Be Skeptical Of Democrats On Gun Control

Now, YouGov has a poll showing that 82 percent of Democrats want to ban semiautomatic firearms, while they’re evenly split on a total handgun ban.

This is where the party stands on gun rights, our civil right to own firearms. They want to shred the Second Amendment and the gauge of Democratic Party members offers a dark vision of what could come if enough of these people are elected to Congress. Allahpundit broke down the numbers:

A vote for any Republican is a vote for more "sympathies and prayer vigils."

"The gun rights organization spent a stupendous $54.4 million in the 2016 election cycle, almost all of it in "independent expenditures," meaning spending for or against a candidate but not a direct contribution to a campaign. The money went almost entirely to Republicans to a degree that almost looks like a misprint (but isn't): Of independent expenditures totaling $52.6 million, Democrats received $265. Yes, that's 265 dollars.

If you're looking for a reason that politicians are quick to declare that their "thoughts and prayers" are with the victims of the horrific slaughters that have become virtually routine in American life, but do nothing further to stop them, look no further."
'Thoughts and prayers' — and fistfuls of NRA money: Why America can't control guns

Moron......the anti gun money supporting democrats from the all of the unions, the lawyers groups and planned parenthood....which outweighs all the money the NRA spends.......props up the anti gun democrats....there is no comparison....

This is the truth....from anti gun, NBC news...


Don't blame the NRA for failed gun control efforts

You know how the argument goes. The "conventional wisdom" is the NRA's heavy spending stops hundreds of politicians from enacting the "common sense" gun control laws they and everyone else would otherwise support.
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There's only one problem with that theory. It's all wrong.

Of course, the NRA does spend money and it does have a sophisticated and persistent messaging operation. But so do dozens of other organizations and causes. So, how does the NRA stack up against them?

Not too well. The NRA, gun makers, and gun rights issues do not even show up on the OpenSecrets website lists for top lobbying firms, top lobbying sectors, top lobbying issues, or top lobbying industries for the years 1998-2017.

The figures for Florida Senator Marco Rubio are particularly educational, since he has been a target of a lot of anti-NRA screeds since the shooting in his home state. A look at the top 20 donors to Rubio directly and his PAC since 2009 does not include the NRA. Over his career since 2009, Rubio has raised a total of more than $91 million in donations. The NRA is responsible for just over $3 million of that, or 3.3 percent. Big whoop, as they say. Yes, $3 million is a lot of money and more than most of us could ever donate to anything. But context is everything, and the even a so-called "poster boy" for NRA donations would only be 3.3 percent lighter in campaign cash without them.

Again, that certainly doesn't mean the NRA isn't spending a lot of money. But the Poltifact fact-checking website puts the total amount of NRA spending since 1998 at $203 million. That figure is even smaller than it looks when you consider 30 percent of Americans, or about 100 million people, own a gun. By contrast, Wall Street and the broader financial industrial shelled out more than $1.1 billion in the 2016 election cycle alone. The financial industry employs only about six million people in total.

The bulk of that $203 million doesn't actually go to candidates as the hysterical tweets and finger pointers seem to believe. It's spent on those "issue ads" that you see mostly on cable news channels during election years. But even if those ads are extremely influential, they are a much different animal than direct campaign donations to individual congressional and presidential candidates.

There's even a question of whether the NRA is very persuasive among actual gun owners. Fewer than 20 percent of American gun owners are even NRA members. That should tell us something about the "chicken or the egg" argument about the gun lobby. The NRA is much more likely piggybacking off the beliefs of gun owners as opposed to framing them in the first place. The real power is with those voting gun owners, not the lobby group that purports to represent them.

Some gun control advocates are wise to this fact. New America senior fellow Lee Drutman has been working to debunk the myth of the all-powerful NRA's money for several years. Beginning in 2012, he noted the NRA hadn't even made donations to a majority of members of Congress. He also made the correct designation between allegiance and influence. That is, the NRA supports candidates that already align with its philosophy as opposed to paying them to toe the line.

Former New York City mayor and media billionaire Mike Bloomberg has thus made a futile point over the years to combat the NRA's money machine. Bloomberg founded "Everytown for Gun Safety" in 2014based on matching the NRA's financial clout. It hasn't been a total political failure. But in the wake of so many mass shootings since 2014, it's also fair to say Everytown hasn't been able to shepherd any new significant national gun laws to passage either.

A much better strategy is to talk less about the NRA and focus more on resurrecting the anti-gun violence measures Americans have supported in the past. That includes beefed up policing and improved background check systems.

A misbegotten path is introducing new rules and misrepresenting them to the public. That's what happened last year when Democrats tried a proposed rule that they and most of the news media portrayed as a way to keep guns from the "mentally ill." But it really sought to put people into the federal government gun background database if they received disability payments from Social Security and received assistance to manage their benefits due to mental impairments. That's a far cry from "mentally ill." Even the ACLU and mental health advocates lined up against that idea, not just the NRA.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Check out the documentary 'Agenda: Grinding America Down.' It lays out the Communist Agenda very clearly. Disarming the populace is a major part of the Agenda. And the Communists seized control of the Democratic Party many years ago.

If you believe this ^^^, you are nuts. If not, you're a liar.

According to the Communist Manifesto and Alinsky's Rules for Radicals, disarmament is part of the agenda.

According to the Third Reich arming was the agenda, ethnic cleansing was the agenda and which is more applicable to TRUMP's agenda (it's never what he says, but what he does)?

 

[Wry Catcher]

There is no doubt, there is no more lying...we saw it at the CNN 2 minutes of hate against gun owners......the democrats will destroy the 2nd Amendment if they are given the power to do it.......

Oh Look, Another Reason Why We Should Be Skeptical Of Democrats On Gun Control

Now, YouGov has a poll showing that 82 percent of Democrats want to ban semiautomatic firearms, while they’re evenly split on a total handgun ban.

This is where the party stands on gun rights, our civil right to own firearms. They want to shred the Second Amendment and the gauge of Democratic Party members offers a dark vision of what could come if enough of these people are elected to Congress. Allahpundit broke down the numbers:

As long as people like 2aguy lie, and the NRA and the Republican Party enable lassiez faire gun policy, innocents will die, and at some point - and maybe it has has been reached - rational people will demand that more laws and more restrictions are imposed.

BTW, a new school shooting at Central Michigan St. U. is underway. Two people were shot (condition unknown) and the shooter remains at large.

You call for more new laws, so why the laws you already have fail so miserably?

Is it because criminals refuse to obey them?

I mean you are in law enforcement, so can you explain why criminals never obey laws?

I am sure more laws will get them to obey and if not pass more and more until you pass a law that bans humanity...

As the world becomes more complicated, the means used by those inclined to break the law increase far beyond the imagination. White collar crime, hacking, identity theft and the loss of intellectual property are just a few reasons why Penal Codes and other codes used to control the behavior of the human species are necessary.

People obey the law for fear of getting caught, punishment and because not to do so would violate the rules in which they are raised, i.e., respect for the the Golden Rule.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Paranoid Schizophrenia ^^^, or too dumb to write anything of substance, thoughtful or thought provoking.

If you're not a commie, why do you faithfully vote for commies?

Republicans are brainwashed to think that their way is the best but just look at what they're way produces. More murder than every other country.

And don't blame us liberals because all those other countries who are less violent are more liberal than us.

So only republicans commit murder?

Our murder rate is skewed by just a few urban shitholes.

2% of all the counties in the US accounted for more than half of all murder
54% of all counties in the US had a murder rate that was virtually zero

Most murders are criminals killing other criminals

These are all facts that you people love to ignore

Those people's deaths don't matter? They do to me.

Then why aren't you out working in those urban areas to actually address the issue instead of telling people who don't commit murder that they shouldn't have guns?

 

[Skull Pilot]

There is no doubt, there is no more lying...we saw it at the CNN 2 minutes of hate against gun owners......the democrats will destroy the 2nd Amendment if they are given the power to do it.......

Oh Look, Another Reason Why We Should Be Skeptical Of Democrats On Gun Control

Now, YouGov has a poll showing that 82 percent of Democrats want to ban semiautomatic firearms, while they’re evenly split on a total handgun ban.

This is where the party stands on gun rights, our civil right to own firearms. They want to shred the Second Amendment and the gauge of Democratic Party members offers a dark vision of what could come if enough of these people are elected to Congress. Allahpundit broke down the numbers:

Your guns didn't stop the shooter at the Florida school, or at Newtown. And your guns were no good at Vegas either. If people want to protect their families we need more gun control. Countries with strong gun control don't have a mass shooting problem. In fact they have much lower homicide rates and are clearly safer.

And my guns didn't kill anyone in FL, or Vegas