"A Well Regulated Militia" explained

[progressive hunter]

So, let me get back to what was being said:


really?? you need that explained too??

theyre called the democrat and republic parties,,
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So, my question is:

How are the Democratic and Republican parties private? Is the Independent party private, too?

Are they not elected by the people, via elections?

What makes them private?

people are elected to office not political parties,,


you have got to be the stupidest mother fucker on the internet,,

 

[meaner gene]

you mean the one thats just like the other 28 states that have the same thing??

Sorry, I confused the police force Governor DeSantis created in Florida, with the forces in Texas, which has both a state police, under DPS, and the Texas rangers.

 

[Sixties Fan]

That claim is not supported by the constitution.

I did not propose that. The founders did. That was a few years after they had done exactly that. They wanted to make sure future Generations could do the same if the government they created became a monster and needed to be done away with.

Theoretically, quote one unquote could attempt to bring down a government that that one person disagrees with. Obviously that would fail.

The founders provided for expressing disagreement through free speech and through Fair voting, something not particularly respected anymore bye a large portion of our leadership. The purpose of militias, among other things, is to be ready in case the government ends free speech and fair elections. That is tyranny, and subject to overthrow. By the people, thanks to their right to bear arms not being infringed.

Suppose Donald Trump somehow was able to rig the 2024 election and be elected even though the overwhelming majority of people opposed him. Not saying that could happen, just suppose. You would not be willing to take up arms against such a dictatorial regime?

We no longer need arms to protect our lives and property? Have you visited a blue run city, lately?

I'm not sure if you mean do we need the National Guard. I would say yes, but it has been abused in the last couple of decades by being sent into the endless Wars along with regulars.

If you mean malicious other than the National Guard that decision is clearly left to the people and the states respectively. Guess where I got those words? My state, texas, has a Texas State guard which I believe has no funding from congress. Several other states do as well if I remember correctly. And of course we Texans make good use of our right as people to bear arms also. I would say the latter is definitely needed. I'm not sure about the state guard, but on paper it seems a good idea.

What you are referring to is not what the founders created.

This is what you are referring to, something that anyone can write and spread and pass as legal or true:

Fact check: George Washington didn't say citizens should arm themselves against government

A photo of a plaque that quotes George Washington suggesting citizens arm themselves to possibly fight the government is not entirely true.

www.usatoday.com

 

[meaner gene]

Yes, which is clearly an argument against the idea that the national guard is the militia by which we maintain our freedom from government tyranny.

Just the opposite. The founding fathers feared an overpowerful central government. And envisioned the militias of the several states as being the protectorate of the people against the federal government. Which is why they said " A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State."

 

[Sixties Fan]

people are elected to office not political parties,,


you have got to be the stupidest mother fucker on the internet,,

You play games so you can pass yourself as smart and think you are insulting people with any f word you can.

You have decided to have your own definition to words, like private, which is not used towards those
who come into office, be it in the Congress, Governors, Mayors, etc.

Keep defining words as you wish, and not what they actually mean.

 

[progressive hunter]

Sorry, I confused the police force Governor DeSantis created in Florida, with the forces in Texas, which has both a state police, under DPS, and the Texas rangers.

what I heard is 28 other states already had those,,

 

[meaner gene]

What you are referring to is not what the founders created.

This is what you are referring to, something that anyone can write and spread and pass as legal or true:

Fact check: George Washington didn't say citizens should arm themselves against government

A photo of a plaque that quotes George Washington suggesting citizens arm themselves to possibly fight the government is not entirely true.

www.usatoday.com

The 1st amendment gives everybody the right to say, or write anything, or represent anything as true.

The Supreme Court went so far as to say that somebody pretending to be a medal of honor winner, can put a faux medal of honor around his neck, and tell that lie to the world.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

He is applying fundamental legal principles to the US Constitution. The first rule of contracts, which the Constitution is basically a contract with the people, you first look to the contract, to glean the meaning of the words it uses, by finding their meaning "in context" with the document in total.

The two places from the original constitution define a militia as being under the oversight of congress and when needed, under the control of congress.

He did no such thing he applied nonsense.

 

[Sixties Fan]

people are elected to office not political parties,,


you have got to be the stupidest mother fucker on the internet,,

[Sixties Fan said:
What private organizations are you talking about?]
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You referred to "Private organizations".

But cannot explain now what you meant.

People are not "private organizations". The Parties are not "private organizations"

Either you meant something else which you do not care to clarify or you did not know what you were writing. Which one is it?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The 1st amendment gives everybody the right to say, or write anything, or represent anything as true.

The Supreme Court went so far as to say that somebody pretending to be a medal of honor winner, can put a faux medal of honor around his neck, and tell that lie to the world.

The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed

 

[bigrebnc1775]

[Sixties Fan said:
What private organizations are you talking about?]
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You referred to "Private organizations".

But cannot explain now what you meant.

People are not "private organizations". The Parties are not "private organizations"

Either you meant something else which you do not care to clarify or you did not know what you were writing. Which one is it?

You're showing your ignorance.

 

[Sixties Fan]

The 1st amendment gives everybody the right to say, or write anything, or represent anything as true.

The Supreme Court went so far as to say that somebody pretending to be a medal of honor winner, can put a faux medal of honor around his neck, and tell that lie to the world.

I am aware of that. I can still that what George Washing said is not what he/she has been led to believe to be true.

First Amendment for all

 

[Sixties Fan]

You're showing your ignorance.

No, you are showing yours.

You know the answer post it here.

 

[meaner gene]

people are elected to office not political parties,,


you have got to be the stupidest mother fucker on the internet,,

When it comes to the presidency, the election can be one of political party

What happens if the president-elect dies before the Electoral College?

Answer (1 of 5): Good question. Even though everyone talks as though the election is final it is not for president. For all other candidates the results of the election is. Officially there is no president elect till the electoral college votes. I imagine what would happen is the party of the exp...

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If the president presumptive dies before the electoral vote on monday after second Wednesday in december

Then the winning party dictates to their electors how to vote,

 

[meaner gene]

what I heard is 28 other states already had those,,

Those are states that have "state police", meaning police forces that can enforce laws throughout the entire state.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

No, you are showing yours.

You know the answer post it here.

No dumbass you started the fucked up thread. Nothing but leftist lies.

 

[progressive hunter]

You play games so you can pass yourself as smart and think you are insulting people with any f word you can.

You have decided to have your own definition to words, like private, which is not used towards those
who come into office, be it in the Congress, Governors, Mayors, etc.

Keep defining words as you wish, and not what they actually mean.

what does that have to do with you thinking political parties being elected instead of people or that they are agencies of the government??

 

[meaner gene]

He did no such thing he applied nonsense.

He's applying standard contract law.

It's what happens when a contract uses a word that may be ambiguous under common usage.

 

[progressive hunter]

Those are states that have "state police", meaning police forces that can enforce laws throughout the entire state.

all 50 states have state police,, this is different,,

 

[meaner gene]

what does that have to do with you thinking political parties being elected instead of people or that they are agencies of the government??

That can be the fact during a presidential election.