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You are the sick one. You are so wrong in thinking that women are the only ones who control this issue. You want to punish the men who have every intention of raising that child you want to abort. Since when is it all your choice? Without the man, without his sperm, your right to choose would be NOTHING. You are but one half of that child's life, not all of it. So how is it entirely your decision?
Women alone should not be allowed to determine the fate of a child. Hey if she was raped or was the victim of incest perhaps, but otherwise what you are suggesting is infanticide, murder for convenience. If you don't want the child, make sure your man wears his rubbers before you open your legs. But this child should not be held to pay for YOUR irresponsibility, and the man should not have to sit on the sidelines while you proceed to kill his son/daughter.
The self centered attitude women have about this issue is sad.
You want to punish the men who have every intention of raising that child you want to abort.
Women are not your brood mares. Get over it.
Men are not toys, no more than women are. You get over it. We don't live in the mythical land of Amazons, men have a say in this too. It's high time you learned that.
First. Several states even NY have laws that if in the case of the murder of a pregnant woman, the defendant can be charged with TWO murders.
That's nice. And totally irrelevant to the issue.
On privacy..If you are so sure that privacy is absolute, by all means, find it in the US Constitution. You can skip the 4th Amendment argument. It doesn't apply.
Amendment IX:
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Amendment X:
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Why is it you felt the need to insult those who do not hold the same viewpoint as yourself?
From one of your recent posts ...
No, you ignorant cow. They should as responsible people do and practice birth control.
Jesus Christ!..... You are dense.
Pot. Kettle. Black.
That is bullshit. Fathers have rights as well.Women are not your brood mares. Get over it.
Men are not toys, no more than women are. You get over it. We don't live in the mythical land of Amazons, men have a say in this too. It's high time you learned that.
no, they really don't.
Their say in anything ends right after they are done saying, "Oh God, Oh God, Oh God...Ahhhhhhh".
Women are not your brood mares. Get over it.
Men are not toys, no more than women are. You get over it. We don't live in the mythical land of Amazons, men have a say in this too. It's high time you learned that.
no, they really don't.
Their say in anything ends right after they are done saying, "Oh God, Oh God, Oh God...Ahhhhhhh".
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You are the sick one. You are so wrong in thinking that women are the only ones who control this issue. You want to punish the men who have every intention of raising that child you want to abort. Since when is it all your choice? Without the man, without his sperm, your right to choose would be NOTHING. You are but one half of that child's life, not all of it. So how is it entirely your decision?
Women alone should not be allowed to determine the fate of a child. Hey if she was raped or was the victim of incest perhaps, but otherwise what you are suggesting is infanticide, murder for convenience. If you don't want the child, make sure your man wears his rubbers before you open your legs. But this child should not be held to pay for YOUR irresponsibility, and the man should not have to sit on the sidelines while you proceed to kill his son/daughter.
The self centered attitude women have about this issue is sad.
Well, you know, they are the ones who have their bodies distorted all out of whack.
I would say the ability to provide sperm is less important to the process to the willingness to provide a womb.
Now, I would like to see Abortions happen less often. The way you get there is to not make stupid laws or try to let anyone but the woman make the decision.
The way to do it is to give the woman options. Better sex education... better social support. Better birth control.
That is bullshit. Fathers have rights as well.Men are not toys, no more than women are. You get over it. We don't live in the mythical land of Amazons, men have a say in this too. It's high time you learned that.
no, they really don't.
Their say in anything ends right after they are done saying, "Oh God, Oh God, Oh God...Ahhhhhhh".
Oh, I think custody and paternity laws are unfair to men, but that's a separate issue from abortion.
The way I'd run it is
1. Woman says she's pregnant.
2. Man can choose, quickly, to legally accept or decline paternity.
3. Based on that, woman can choose to abort or not.
4. If she gives birth, a man who accepts paternity is the daddy. He pays. If he declined paternity, he doesn't pay, but has zero rights concerning the child.
That's only for single people. In a married couple, married men would automatically be assigned paternity.
Now, I would like to see Abortions happen less often. The way you get there is to not make stupid laws or try to let anyone but the woman make the decision.
The way to do it is to give the woman options. Better sex education... better social support. Better birth control.
All of those things are available now.
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You are the sick one. You are so wrong in thinking that women are the only ones who control this issue. You want to punish the men who have every intention of raising that child you want to abort. Since when is it all your choice? Without the man, without his sperm, your right to choose would be NOTHING. You are but one half of that child's life, not all of it. So how is it entirely your decision?
Women alone should not be allowed to determine the fate of a child. Hey if she was raped or was the victim of incest perhaps, but otherwise what you are suggesting is infanticide, murder for convenience. If you don't want the child, make sure your man wears his rubbers before you open your legs. But this child should not be held to pay for YOUR irresponsibility, and the man should not have to sit on the sidelines while you proceed to kill his son/daughter.
The self centered attitude women have about this issue is sad.
Well, you know, they are the ones who have their bodies distorted all out of whack.
I would say the ability to provide sperm is less important to the process to the willingness to provide a womb.
Now, I would like to see Abortions happen less often. The way you get there is to not make stupid laws or try to let anyone but the woman make the decision.
The way to do it is to give the woman options. Better sex education... better social support. Better birth control.
Now, I would like to see Abortions happen less often. The way you get there is to not make stupid laws or try to let anyone but the woman make the decision.
The way to do it is to give the woman options. Better sex education... better social support. Better birth control.
All of those things are available now.
No, they aren't.
Now, employers can fire employees if they get pregnant, which based on our previous discussions, you are totally good with.
Sister, if we had to live in your world of "what if" and "but what about", we'd all be living in plastic bubbles. Our only human interactions would be with plaintiff's attorneys.No, you ignorant cow. They should as responsible people do and practice birth control.
Jesus Christ!..... You are dense.
That is why the OP's argument is nonsense.
And if birth control fails?
Abortion should not be for birth control. Period.
That WILL be the law here sooner or later.
North Dakota ha already passed a law that states a fetus is not eligible for abortion if a heart beat can be detected.
Having not read the entire text of the law, no doubt there are contingencies for health of the mother and viability of the child and of course rape.
Again, you have no standing here. It's none of your business. Worry about Australia.
That bullshit argument again....Look, it didn't happen. Stop lying.Now, I would like to see Abortions happen less often. The way you get there is to not make stupid laws or try to let anyone but the woman make the decision.
The way to do it is to give the woman options. Better sex education... better social support. Better birth control.
All of those things are available now.
No, they aren't.
Now, employers can fire employees if they get pregnant, which based on our previous discussions, you are totally good with.
Sister, if we had to live in your world of "what if" and "but what about", we'd all be living in plastic bubbles. Our only human interactions would be with plaintiff's attorneys.And if birth control fails?
Abortion should not be for birth control. Period.
That WILL be the law here sooner or later.
North Dakota ha already passed a law that states a fetus is not eligible for abortion if a heart beat can be detected.
Having not read the entire text of the law, no doubt there are contingencies for health of the mother and viability of the child and of course rape.
Again, you have no standing here. It's none of your business. Worry about Australia.
(My bold)
Why do we want to reject certain ideas? Isn't this a political message board? Noomi expresses an opinion, & we're all big boys & girls, we can evaluate that opinion on its own merits. We don't need - & I don't want - a gatekeeper.
I say, the more opinions, the merrier. The more opinions, the less likely we are to miss something that could have been valuable, or insightful, or even just amusing. (& believe me, with some of the Scheiss on TV, I'm all for anything that's amusing, even in a light-hearted way.)
And no sweetie, I don't want to punish women. I don't want to punish anyone.
Pregnancy is their decision; not mine.
You however seem to want to punish an innocent fetus for something they have nothing to do with.
A fetus is not innocent. It is nothing.
You want to punish women for having sex. You hate women and wish to control them. You are a sick freak.
You are the sick one. You are so wrong in thinking that women are the only ones who control this issue. You want to punish the men who have every intention of raising that child you want to abort. Since when is it all your choice? Without the man, without his sperm, your right to choose would be NOTHING. You are but one half of that child's life, not all of it. So how is it entirely your decision?
Women alone should not be allowed to determine the fate of a child. Hey if she was raped or was the victim of incest perhaps, but otherwise what you are suggesting is infanticide, murder for convenience. If you don't want the child, make sure your man wears his rubbers before you open your legs. But this child should not be held to pay for YOUR irresponsibility, and the man should not have to sit on the sidelines while you proceed to kill his son/daughter.
The self centered attitude women have about this issue is sad.
Sister, if we had to live in your world of "what if" and "but what about", we'd all be living in plastic bubbles. Our only human interactions would be with plaintiff's attorneys.
Abortion should not be for birth control. Period.
That WILL be the law here sooner or later.
North Dakota ha already passed a law that states a fetus is not eligible for abortion if a heart beat can be detected.
Having not read the entire text of the law, no doubt there are contingencies for health of the mother and viability of the child and of course rape.
Again, you have no standing here. It's none of your business. Worry about Australia.
(My bold)
Why do we want to reject certain ideas? Isn't this a political message board? Noomi expresses an opinion, & we're all big boys & girls, we can evaluate that opinion on its own merits. We don't need - & I don't want - a gatekeeper.
I say, the more opinions, the merrier. The more opinions, the less likely we are to miss something that could have been valuable, or insightful, or even just amusing. (& believe me, with some of the Scheiss on TV, I'm all for anything that's amusing, even in a light-hearted way.)
She's an Australian National. She has no standing here.
