Academy Awards Are a Farce

[rightwinger]

Movie actors produce a product worth hundreds of millions of dollars

Realatively a lot

Maybe, but their production is one that anybody could do. Can anybody play the piece of baroque music I played in post # 43 ? Or thousands of other performances, by thousands of other musicians ?

If anyone could do it, they wouldn’t be paid tens of millions of dollars to act
They put fannies in the seats and get paid to do it

 

[Lysistrata]

Of the people who don't like this, let them do it themselves. Go ahead! if you think that you can do better, do better! Come on. Better scripts, better actors, better directors. Come on up and do it. We are waiting for you and your contributions.

 

[WinterBorn]

Movie actors produce a product worth hundreds of millions of dollars

Realatively a lot

Maybe, but their production is one that anybody could do. Can anybody play the piece of baroque music I played in post # 43 ? Or thousands of other performances, by thousands of other musicians ?

You think anybody can do it? YOu are very much mistaken. That is why some actors turn in amazing performances and other suck every time.

Can anyone play a piece of baroque music? Anyone who takes lessons and practices, yes.

 

[WinterBorn]

The Oscars are voted on by people in the film industry. Of course this industry, like every other industry, is motivated by profits, so the consideration of the box-office gross obviously involves "what people actually want to watch," given that the public can just stay home and watch something else. The people can go to other movies, watch TV, read books, clean the refrigerator, stay in bed, or play Monopoly. Whatever. People are not forced to do anything. However, the Oscar voting also involves what those who vote on them think has artistic merit in the various fields.

The entertainment industry, movies, music, TV shows, etc. should not be run by people too dump to turn the channel or to decline to go pay to see a movie that they don't like. Shit, man. I've got HBO, Netflix, a remote control. If you don't like something, you've got your remote. Go change the channel or clean out your garage or sing hymns or something.

"artistic merit" ?

So I take it that you don't like movies. Well, good on ya. Music is a different genre than movies, didn't ya know. I still don't understand what your beef is. Music is audio, moving pictures are a visual interpretation of a story. No picture of Marilyn Monroe is going to change that. I've seen pictures of John Wayne and other horse-opera guys even used as avatars, and Wayne never played anything but himself. At least John Ford had enough sense to take him out of the saddle.

It's difficult to respond to people who dislike an entire genre, which I think is really, really dumb. But if they don't like movies, I do hope that they read books at least.

Didn't say I don't like movies. My beef is more with the actors who accept awards and act like they've really dine something special. MM is shown here, because she was special great dancer and singer in addition to top notch looks and acting

Most of the ones who win awards created a character that touched the audience. That is what art does. Your egotistical idea that what you do makes you special, but what actors do is something anyone can do, is ridiculous.

 

[Lysistrata]

The Oscars are voted on by people in the film industry. Of course this industry, like every other industry, is motivated by profits, so the consideration of the box-office gross obviously involves "what people actually want to watch," given that the public can just stay home and watch something else. The people can go to other movies, watch TV, read books, clean the refrigerator, stay in bed, or play Monopoly. Whatever. People are not forced to do anything. However, the Oscar voting also involves what those who vote on them think has artistic merit in the various fields.

The entertainment industry, movies, music, TV shows, etc. should not be run by people too dump to turn the channel or to decline to go pay to see a movie that they don't like. Shit, man. I've got HBO, Netflix, a remote control. If you don't like something, you've got your remote. Go change the channel or clean out your garage or sing hymns or something.

"artistic merit" ?

So I take it that you don't like movies. Well, good on ya. Music is a different genre than movies, didn't ya know. I still don't understand what your beef is. Music is audio, moving pictures are a visual interpretation of a story. No picture of Marilyn Monroe is going to change that. I've seen pictures of John Wayne and other horse-opera guys even used as avatars, and Wayne never played anything but himself. At least John Ford had enough sense to take him out of the saddle.

It's difficult to respond to people who dislike an entire genre, which I think is really, really dumb. But if they don't like movies, I do hope that they read books at least.

Didn't say I don't like movies. My beef is more with the actors who accept awards and act like they've really dine something special. MM is shown here, because she was special great dancer and singer in addition to top notch looks and acting

Most of the ones who win awards created a character that touched the audience. That is what art does. Your egotistical idea that what you do makes you special, but what actors do is something anyone can do, is ridiculous.

I don't think that many of these people understand what art is and what it does. Transforming oneself into another person requires hard work and a willingness to surrender oneself. Many people do not understand that this requires a psychological (as well as physical) transformation. They just don't get it.

Shit, I remember sitting in a revolving chair in front of a mirror when I was 14, having my hair sprayed grey so that I could go out on stage and be a middle-aged woman attending a funeral. I think that this goes back to early childhood when a child first learns the difference between reality and fantasy. Every year, I was frightened when The Wizard of Oz would come on, and I remember being hysterical when my dad took me as a small child to see Old Yeller and they shot the dog! He tried so hard to comfort me and explain that it was not real and no dog was shot. But some people never learn where this line is drawn.

 

[rightwinger]

Movie actors produce a product worth hundreds of millions of dollars

Realatively a lot

Maybe, but their production is one that anybody could do. Can anybody play the piece of baroque music I played in post # 43 ? Or thousands of other performances, by thousands of other musicians ?

You think anybody can do it? YOu are very much mistaken. That is why some actors turn in amazing performances and other suck every time.

Can anyone play a piece of baroque music? Anyone who takes lessons and practices, yes.

Nobody will pay to see a baroque concert
They pay hundreds of millions to see major pictures

 

[Lysistrata]

Movie actors produce a product worth hundreds of millions of dollars

Realatively a lot

Maybe, but their production is one that anybody could do. Can anybody play the piece of baroque music I played in post # 43 ? Or thousands of other performances, by thousands of other musicians ?

You think anybody can do it? YOu are very much mistaken. That is why some actors turn in amazing performances and other suck every time.

Can anyone play a piece of baroque music? Anyone who takes lessons and practices, yes.

Nobody will pay to see a baroque concert
They pay hundreds of millions to see major pictures

And those who wish not to attend are not compelled to do so.

 

[WinterBorn]

Movie actors produce a product worth hundreds of millions of dollars

Realatively a lot

Maybe, but their production is one that anybody could do. Can anybody play the piece of baroque music I played in post # 43 ? Or thousands of other performances, by thousands of other musicians ?

You think anybody can do it? YOu are very much mistaken. That is why some actors turn in amazing performances and other suck every time.

Can anyone play a piece of baroque music? Anyone who takes lessons and practices, yes.

Nobody will pay to see a baroque concert
They pay hundreds of millions to see major pictures

I don't even think it is about the money.

I know many gifted musicians who work a day job.

It is the idea that anyone can do what actors do that is completely irrational.

If anyone thinks they can do what Gene Hackman does so naturally, they might want to watch an interview with Morgan Freeman about working with him in Unforgiven. The scene where Hackman is beating Freeman to death while interrogating him and leans in close to say "But I'm gonna hurt you. And not gentle like before... but bad"? Freeman said it scared him in a visceral way. He believed it. And he could see the cameras.

Or watch Robin Williams in Patch Adams. The scene where he is on the cliff talking to God, or in the room being questioned by the medical board. Perhaps anyone just read those lines and pretend. But to touch people's hearts the way Williams did? No. Few can do that.

And I don't think the paycheck is what separates the hacks from the artists.

 

[WillMunny]

You can't expect much substance from a bunch of millionaire, low-I.Q. celebrities sucking each other's dicks over how wonderful they think they are, despite being the largest pedophilia orgy outside the muslim world. Simply for reading lines in a movie. I haven't seen the inside of a cinema in 2 years and I have no interest in doing so ever again.

 

[rightwinger]

You can't expect much substance from a bunch of millionaire, low-I.Q. celebrities sucking each other's dicks over how wonderful they think they are, despite being the largest pedophilia orgy outside the muslim world. Simply for reading lines in a movie. I haven't seen the inside of a cinema in 2 years and I have no interest in doing so ever again.

You obviously have no concept of what makes a great performance

 

[Lysistrata]

You can't expect much substance from a bunch of millionaire, low-I.Q. celebrities sucking each other's dicks over how wonderful they think they are, despite being the largest pedophilia orgy outside the muslim world. Simply for reading lines in a movie. I haven't seen the inside of a cinema in 2 years and I have no interest in doing so ever again.

You obviously have no concept of what makes a great performance

You can say that again! What he sounds like is someone who doesn't know anything about the arts, but loves a good political rant and the acting community is one of the right-wingers' targets du jour. I would venture that he gets double points in his "community" for managing to slip in a reference to gay sex.

 

[Picaro]

Who cares ? Are you kidding ? I haven't gone to a movie in 32 years. Can you think if anythung more meaningless ?

New movies are not needed. There are tens if thousands of movies out there (most on DVD). Thousands just from 2000 AD and newer.

Awards for what ? Acting ? Playing make believe ? We all act during our lives. This is something nonspecial, that requires little skill. Who hasn't recieved a birthday present, and acted as if they really liked it ?

Isn't it bad enough we have the ludicrous Grammys, with "awards" going to people who couldn't play a chord on a guitar or piano ? Some do nothing more than just talk (often profanity and racism) into a microphone.

How long can you stand seeing unimportant, grossly overpaid people who laughably think they're important ? This is me playing the baroque tune "Rights of Man" * on the mandolin. If any of the actors who just received an "award" can do this, I'll consider them deserving of an award.

* A tune of some difficulty, with 4 continuous triplets, played twice in 2 different octaves, and in the key of G (a bit more difficult key on the mandolin, than the typical/easier keys of D and A)

Don't remember exactly which was the last one I paid to see was, the last three were Amadeus, which I liked, The Unforgiven, which I also liked, and Dracula, which was okay, so whichever of those was the last one of three is the last one I saw. I quit going because of the crappy seats and ridiculous prices, and no double features with cartoons in between, like it was when I was a kid and it cost 25-35 cents. Haven't watched the Oscars in a long time, so I have no idea what they're like now. I Check out some of the TV series from our library, like Breaking Bad, Game Of Thrones, Sons Of Anarchy, etc., none of which are outstanding, but okay for free. I also check out The Godfather, Dr. Zhivago, especially since the upgraded sound track, and Once Upon A Time In America every couple of years or so. The rest is on TV so often there is no need to own or check them out. Most movies hit TV pretty soon after release these days.

 

[Picaro]

Movies are a popular art form.

No, they aren't; they're strictly low brow entertainment specifically designed to suck dollars out of the pockets of idiots or people just looking for mindless zoning out that requires no effort. They've never been anything else. Any 'art' that makes its way into any movie is entirely accidental or just pretentious crap designed to fool dope addled morons. The only 'art' involved is the producers guessing right on which trends to follow that the masses will fork out lots of cash for.

Shouldn't you be outside yelling for kids to get off your lawn?

Why shouldn't people yell at kids tearing up their lawns?

And maybe calling the cops to have them arrested if they insult you?

Better to just let them take some rock salt in the ass, true enough.

 

[Lysistrata]

I'm never on top of things, movie wise, and I am way far behind. But all of this year's best-picture lineup sounds good. I've got to see The Shape of Water, Guillermo del Toro being brilliant. And, of course, anything that Frances McDormand is in has got to be wonderful. The same goes for Daniel Day-Lewis.

While it came out too late to be nominated this year, Black Panther looks pretty interesting, and I'd like to see what all the hoopla is about.

So much, so little time, she says, having finally watched True Blood how many years later? Loved it.

 

[RealDave]

Who cares ? Are you kidding ? I haven't gone to a movie in 32 years. Can you think if anythung more meaningless ?

New movies are not needed. There are tens if thousands of movies out there (most on DVD). Thousands just from 2000 AD and newer.

Awards for what ? Acting ? Playing make believe ? We all act during our lives. This is something nonspecial, that requires little skill. Who hasn't recieved a birthday present, and acted as if they really liked it ?

Isn't it bad enough we have the ludicrous Grammys, with "awards" going to people who couldn't play a chord on a guitar or piano ? Some do nothing more than just talk (often profanity and racism) into a microphone.

How long can you stand seeing unimportant, grossly overpaid people who laughably think they're important ? This is me playing the baroque tune "Rights of Man" * on the mandolin. If any of the actors who just received an "award" can do this, I'll consider them deserving of an award.

* A tune of some difficulty, with 4 continuous triplets, played twice in 2 different octaves, and in the key of G (a bit more difficult key on the mandolin, than the typical/easier keys of D and A)

Probably quit you you figured out you can see porn online.

 

[Picaro]

Who cares ? Are you kidding ? I haven't gone to a movie in 32 years. Can you think if anythung more meaningless ?

New movies are not needed. There are tens if thousands of movies out there (most on DVD). Thousands just from 2000 AD and newer.

Awards for what ? Acting ? Playing make believe ? We all act during our lives. This is something nonspecial, that requires little skill. Who hasn't recieved a birthday present, and acted as if they really liked it ?

Isn't it bad enough we have the ludicrous Grammys, with "awards" going to people who couldn't play a chord on a guitar or piano ? Some do nothing more than just talk (often profanity and racism) into a microphone.

How long can you stand seeing unimportant, grossly overpaid people who laughably think they're important ? This is me playing the baroque tune "Rights of Man" * on the mandolin. If any of the actors who just received an "award" can do this, I'll consider them deserving of an award.

* A tune of some difficulty, with 4 continuous triplets, played twice in 2 different octaves, and in the key of G (a bit more difficult key on the mandolin, than the typical/easier keys of D and A)

Probably quit you you figured out you can see porn online.

And you just have that lifetime subscription PlayGurl for the articles, not the tranny porn, right?

 

[protectionist]

Don't fans of country and western music "crown" those each year whom they perceive have accomplished something in the field of country and western music? Should this all be abolished?

Academy Awards should be abolished. It's a farce.

 

[protectionist]

If anyone could do it, they wouldn’t be paid tens of millions of dollars to act
They put fannies in the seats and get paid to do it

Ye$ they would. Anyone can do it. And if they weren't doing it, somebody else (anyone) would.

 

[protectionist]

Of the people who don't like this, let them do it themselves. Go ahead! if you think that you can do better, do better! Come on. Better scripts, better actors, better directors. Come on up and do it. We are waiting for you and your contributions.

I've already done that. Have a script which is registered with US copyright office in DC. It's for sale. Remains unsold. I guess you have to know somebody.

 

[protectionist]

You think anybody can do it? YOu are very much mistaken. That is why some actors turn in amazing performances and other suck every time.

Can anyone play a piece of baroque music? Anyone who takes lessons and practices, yes.

1. Anyone can act, and we all do every day. Look at some guy receiving a gift he doesn't like, for Christmas. Is he going to say "I don't like it'. Of course not. he ACTS like he likes it. We all do that. Ho hum.

2. No. Not anyone can play a piece of baroque music (or any other type of music on a stringed instrument) Many people try to play the guitar (a relatively easy instrument to play compared to the violin). They struggle with it for weeks. In the end, their guitar winds up in a pawn shop. Don't believe it ? Go visit any pawn shop.