ACLU against free speech

[TheProgressivePatriot]

OK, at one point. But if you're going to tell a story, tell the whole fucking story . Otherwise, it's propaganda...you know , like the communists use,

]

It's actually quite easy. Take a look at their history and who they have gone to Court for. Every two bit progressive group gets lavished with money and time. If the group is a right wing group, they are left high and dry. Yes, I am sure you are going to trot out that nazis are right wing canard, but that is false. NAZI's and communists are both left wing. Remember, collective governments are left wing. No government is right wing. You can't have a left wing and a right wing collective government because that means that there is no such thing as an opposite of government. Do you see the logic problem there?

I am well aware of how you fucktards can get away with calling Nazis left wing and then have the temerity to equate them to what is commonly referred to the left in this country today. Yes, if you base the distinction solely on the size and role of government, you can argue that Nazis are left wing.

https://www.diffen.com/difference/Left_Wing_vs_Right_Wing

But that dumbs down the conversation by disregarding that the size and role of government is only one factor in the equation that determines the actual nature of the government or the ideology. Nazis and the current US administration both use government to reward a favored few, denigrate minorities, and wage war on others as well as their own people. And while the US administration preaches the right-wing rhetoric of small government, they are selective in what that actually looks like. They want small government when it comes to taxes, social safety net programs, protection for the environment and consumer protection, but are all to eager to impose government on women’s reproductive health, the choices available to people when it comes to who they can marry and freedom of the press. Yes, free speech. So this left-right dichotomy fails your assessment that the ACLU only defends the left, your argument fails pathetically and miserably. Do you see the logical problem there?

Try using your head, instead of listening to the morons who actually taught you that silliness. If total government control is on one side of the political spectrum. What, logically, is on the other side?

The political spectrum isn't split between anarchy and authoritarianism just because you want it to be. Both the extreme right and left are authoritarian.

I hate to break it to you, but yes, it is. One side you have maximum government control. And the opposite is no government control. In other words anarchy. Where a country falls along that line determines how much freedom the citizens enjoy. Totalitarianism is horrible as that leads to mass murder. Anarchy is bad as that leads to strong preying on weak. The best systems are those that maintain a healthy degree of both socialist, AND capitalist philosophies.

Errr, actually I agree with you on that. Holy shit, Bud!!

 

[HappyJoy]

The what? The first amendment is protected by the Constitution first an foremost. You are just ridiculous. Because the ACLU doesn't protect your little pet peeve the exact way you want them to they are then somehow now anti-American. That's just dumb, and ignore the fact that the ACLU has defended the free speech rights of people who are pro 2nd amendment such as Rush Limbaugh.

What a nut you are.

You idiot. Without the 2nd Amendment the COTS is merely a scrap of paper. Let me know how effective that is when a cop is abusing you. Moron.

Well, no actually, I'd say the 2nd is rarely used to defend our first amendment rights. When was the last time that happened?

Also, while you completely change the subject from the 1st to the 2nd amendment because you realized you didn't have much of a point why don't you go and read what the ACLU has to say about the 2nd? I mean, at least do that.

The last time I checked, other than the Nevada ACLU, their official position was it is a collective right, which seems sort of retarded as government has the power already, so why it would need a right to have guns seems beyond me. The Nevada ACLU only a few years ago proclaimed it an individual Right.

Or you can educate yourself and actually read what they think of gun control rights.

The ACLU's Position on Gun Control

Jesus Christ, way to take this all off topic.

Yes, the ACLU's position is fundamentally anti gun for civilian ownership.

Wrong, prove it.

There is ALREADY a SCOTUS ruling on assault weapons, that is the 1934 NFA and they stipulate (look it up, it's a legal term) that assault weapons are the only weapons truly protected under the 2nd Amendment. Thus the ACLU's position is already refuted by a SCOTUS hearing. Thanks for making that plain.

Considering you guys claim the term 'assault weapon' doesn't mean anything and that verbiage wasn't around in 1934 I'd say you also need to back up this point as well. Anyway the 1994 assault weapons ban survived court challenges so I'd say yes, you are very wrong here.

 

[HappyJoy]

OK, at one point. But if you're going to tell a story, tell the whole fucking story . Otherwise, it's propaganda...you know , like the communists use,

]

It's actually quite easy. Take a look at their history and who they have gone to Court for. Every two bit progressive group gets lavished with money and time. If the group is a right wing group, they are left high and dry. Yes, I am sure you are going to trot out that nazis are right wing canard, but that is false. NAZI's and communists are both left wing. Remember, collective governments are left wing. No government is right wing. You can't have a left wing and a right wing collective government because that means that there is no such thing as an opposite of government. Do you see the logic problem there?

I am well aware of how you fucktards can get away with calling Nazis left wing and then have the temerity to equate them to what is commonly referred to the left in this country today. Yes, if you base the distinction solely on the size and role of government, you can argue that Nazis are left wing.

https://www.diffen.com/difference/Left_Wing_vs_Right_Wing

But that dumbs down the conversation by disregarding that the size and role of government is only one factor in the equation that determines the actual nature of the government or the ideology. Nazis and the current US administration both use government to reward a favored few, denigrate minorities, and wage war on others as well as their own people. And while the US administration preaches the right-wing rhetoric of small government, they are selective in what that actually looks like. They want small government when it comes to taxes, social safety net programs, protection for the environment and consumer protection, but are all to eager to impose government on women’s reproductive health, the choices available to people when it comes to who they can marry and freedom of the press. Yes, free speech. So this left-right dichotomy fails your assessment that the ACLU only defends the left, your argument fails pathetically and miserably. Do you see the logical problem there?

Try using your head, instead of listening to the morons who actually taught you that silliness. If total government control is on one side of the political spectrum. What, logically, is on the other side?

The political spectrum isn't split between anarchy and authoritarianism just because you want it to be. Both the extreme right and left are authoritarian.

I hate to break it to you, but yes, it is. One side you have maximum government control. And the opposite is no government control. In other words anarchy. Where a country falls along that line determines how much freedom the citizens enjoy. Totalitarianism is horrible as that leads to mass murder. Anarchy is bad as that leads to strong preying on weak. The best systems are those that maintain a healthy degree of both socialist, AND capitalist philosophies.

No, Fascism is very much right wing. I'm sorry you've fallen for this very recent trope that anything authoritarian is liberal, it's just not true.

 

[HappyJoy]

It's actually quite easy. Take a look at their history and who they have gone to Court for. Every two bit progressive group gets lavished with money and time. If the group is a right wing group, they are left high and dry. Yes, I am sure you are going to trot out that nazis are right wing canard, but that is false. NAZI's and communists are both left wing. Remember, collective governments are left wing. No government is right wing. You can't have a left wing and a right wing collective government because that means that there is no such thing as an opposite of government. Do you see the logic problem there?

I am well aware of how you fucktards can get away with calling Nazis left wing and then have the temerity to equate them to what is commonly referred to the left in this country today. Yes, if you base the distinction solely on the size and role of government, you can argue that Nazis are left wing.

https://www.diffen.com/difference/Left_Wing_vs_Right_Wing

But that dumbs down the conversation by disregarding that the size and role of government is only one factor in the equation that determines the actual nature of the government or the ideology. Nazis and the current US administration both use government to reward a favored few, denigrate minorities, and wage war on others as well as their own people. And while the US administration preaches the right-wing rhetoric of small government, they are selective in what that actually looks like. They want small government when it comes to taxes, social safety net programs, protection for the environment and consumer protection, but are all to eager to impose government on women’s reproductive health, the choices available to people when it comes to who they can marry and freedom of the press. Yes, free speech. So this left-right dichotomy fails your assessment that the ACLU only defends the left, your argument fails pathetically and miserably. Do you see the logical problem there?

Try using your head, instead of listening to the morons who actually taught you that silliness. If total government control is on one side of the political spectrum. What, logically, is on the other side?

The political spectrum isn't split between anarchy and authoritarianism just because you want it to be. Both the extreme right and left are authoritarian.

I hate to break it to you, but yes, it is. One side you have maximum government control. And the opposite is no government control. In other words anarchy. Where a country falls along that line determines how much freedom the citizens enjoy. Totalitarianism is horrible as that leads to mass murder. Anarchy is bad as that leads to strong preying on weak. The best systems are those that maintain a healthy degree of both socialist, AND capitalist philosophies.

Errr, actually I agree with you on that. Holy shit, Bud!!

He thinks Hitler is left wing.

 

[westwall]

It's actually quite easy. Take a look at their history and who they have gone to Court for. Every two bit progressive group gets lavished with money and time. If the group is a right wing group, they are left high and dry. Yes, I am sure you are going to trot out that nazis are right wing canard, but that is false. NAZI's and communists are both left wing. Remember, collective governments are left wing. No government is right wing. You can't have a left wing and a right wing collective government because that means that there is no such thing as an opposite of government. Do you see the logic problem there?

I am well aware of how you fucktards can get away with calling Nazis left wing and then have the temerity to equate them to what is commonly referred to the left in this country today. Yes, if you base the distinction solely on the size and role of government, you can argue that Nazis are left wing.

https://www.diffen.com/difference/Left_Wing_vs_Right_Wing

But that dumbs down the conversation by disregarding that the size and role of government is only one factor in the equation that determines the actual nature of the government or the ideology. Nazis and the current US administration both use government to reward a favored few, denigrate minorities, and wage war on others as well as their own people. And while the US administration preaches the right-wing rhetoric of small government, they are selective in what that actually looks like. They want small government when it comes to taxes, social safety net programs, protection for the environment and consumer protection, but are all to eager to impose government on women’s reproductive health, the choices available to people when it comes to who they can marry and freedom of the press. Yes, free speech. So this left-right dichotomy fails your assessment that the ACLU only defends the left, your argument fails pathetically and miserably. Do you see the logical problem there?

Try using your head, instead of listening to the morons who actually taught you that silliness. If total government control is on one side of the political spectrum. What, logically, is on the other side?

The political spectrum isn't split between anarchy and authoritarianism just because you want it to be. Both the extreme right and left are authoritarian.

I hate to break it to you, but yes, it is. One side you have maximum government control. And the opposite is no government control. In other words anarchy. Where a country falls along that line determines how much freedom the citizens enjoy. Totalitarianism is horrible as that leads to mass murder. Anarchy is bad as that leads to strong preying on weak. The best systems are those that maintain a healthy degree of both socialist, AND capitalist philosophies.

Errr, actually I agree with you on that. Holy shit, Bud!!

Thinking for yourself is a wonderful thing. I am glad you do so. Puts you miles ahead of most others here.

 

[westwall]

It's actually quite easy. Take a look at their history and who they have gone to Court for. Every two bit progressive group gets lavished with money and time. If the group is a right wing group, they are left high and dry. Yes, I am sure you are going to trot out that nazis are right wing canard, but that is false. NAZI's and communists are both left wing. Remember, collective governments are left wing. No government is right wing. You can't have a left wing and a right wing collective government because that means that there is no such thing as an opposite of government. Do you see the logic problem there?

I am well aware of how you fucktards can get away with calling Nazis left wing and then have the temerity to equate them to what is commonly referred to the left in this country today. Yes, if you base the distinction solely on the size and role of government, you can argue that Nazis are left wing.

https://www.diffen.com/difference/Left_Wing_vs_Right_Wing

But that dumbs down the conversation by disregarding that the size and role of government is only one factor in the equation that determines the actual nature of the government or the ideology. Nazis and the current US administration both use government to reward a favored few, denigrate minorities, and wage war on others as well as their own people. And while the US administration preaches the right-wing rhetoric of small government, they are selective in what that actually looks like. They want small government when it comes to taxes, social safety net programs, protection for the environment and consumer protection, but are all to eager to impose government on women’s reproductive health, the choices available to people when it comes to who they can marry and freedom of the press. Yes, free speech. So this left-right dichotomy fails your assessment that the ACLU only defends the left, your argument fails pathetically and miserably. Do you see the logical problem there?

Try using your head, instead of listening to the morons who actually taught you that silliness. If total government control is on one side of the political spectrum. What, logically, is on the other side?

The political spectrum isn't split between anarchy and authoritarianism just because you want it to be. Both the extreme right and left are authoritarian.

I hate to break it to you, but yes, it is. One side you have maximum government control. And the opposite is no government control. In other words anarchy. Where a country falls along that line determines how much freedom the citizens enjoy. Totalitarianism is horrible as that leads to mass murder. Anarchy is bad as that leads to strong preying on weak. The best systems are those that maintain a healthy degree of both socialist, AND capitalist philosophies.

No, Fascism is very much right wing. I'm sorry you've fallen for this very recent trope that anything authoritarian is liberal, it's just not true.

How is fascism different from socialism TO THE INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS LIVING UNDER THAT FORM OF GOVERNMENT? Be specific.

 

[HappyJoy]

I am well aware of how you fucktards can get away with calling Nazis left wing and then have the temerity to equate them to what is commonly referred to the left in this country today. Yes, if you base the distinction solely on the size and role of government, you can argue that Nazis are left wing.

https://www.diffen.com/difference/Left_Wing_vs_Right_Wing

But that dumbs down the conversation by disregarding that the size and role of government is only one factor in the equation that determines the actual nature of the government or the ideology. Nazis and the current US administration both use government to reward a favored few, denigrate minorities, and wage war on others as well as their own people. And while the US administration preaches the right-wing rhetoric of small government, they are selective in what that actually looks like. They want small government when it comes to taxes, social safety net programs, protection for the environment and consumer protection, but are all to eager to impose government on women’s reproductive health, the choices available to people when it comes to who they can marry and freedom of the press. Yes, free speech. So this left-right dichotomy fails your assessment that the ACLU only defends the left, your argument fails pathetically and miserably. Do you see the logical problem there?

Try using your head, instead of listening to the morons who actually taught you that silliness. If total government control is on one side of the political spectrum. What, logically, is on the other side?

The political spectrum isn't split between anarchy and authoritarianism just because you want it to be. Both the extreme right and left are authoritarian.

I hate to break it to you, but yes, it is. One side you have maximum government control. And the opposite is no government control. In other words anarchy. Where a country falls along that line determines how much freedom the citizens enjoy. Totalitarianism is horrible as that leads to mass murder. Anarchy is bad as that leads to strong preying on weak. The best systems are those that maintain a healthy degree of both socialist, AND capitalist philosophies.

No, Fascism is very much right wing. I'm sorry you've fallen for this very recent trope that anything authoritarian is liberal, it's just not true.

How is fascism different from socialism TO THE INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS LIVING UNDER THAT FORM OF GOVERNMENT? Be specific.

I suppose you could look here for a great explanaition of far right and left authoritarianism.

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-people-call-Fascism-right-wing

Usually there is always a victim and government is used as the tool to extract extreme vengeance or justice depending on how you feel about these things. Fascism tends to be conservative and nationalistic to control the status quo. Usually religious, often not accepting of immigrants, foreigners or those that do not look like most others.

Where as liberal political views are to correct injustices such and create a more equal society, pro civil rights and that sort of thing. Taken to the extremes and left wing authoritarians seek to create a classless society and eliminate concentrations of wealth in the upper classes.

Anyway, I strongly suggest you read the link, it's a very good read and sums up what you really should know if you're over the age of 18.

 

[westwall]

Try using your head, instead of listening to the morons who actually taught you that silliness. If total government control is on one side of the political spectrum. What, logically, is on the other side?

The political spectrum isn't split between anarchy and authoritarianism just because you want it to be. Both the extreme right and left are authoritarian.

I hate to break it to you, but yes, it is. One side you have maximum government control. And the opposite is no government control. In other words anarchy. Where a country falls along that line determines how much freedom the citizens enjoy. Totalitarianism is horrible as that leads to mass murder. Anarchy is bad as that leads to strong preying on weak. The best systems are those that maintain a healthy degree of both socialist, AND capitalist philosophies.

No, Fascism is very much right wing. I'm sorry you've fallen for this very recent trope that anything authoritarian is liberal, it's just not true.

How is fascism different from socialism TO THE INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS LIVING UNDER THAT FORM OF GOVERNMENT? Be specific.

I suppose you could look here for a great explanaition of far right and left authoritarianism.

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-people-call-Fascism-right-wing

Usually there is always a victim and government is used as the tool to extract extreme vengeance or justice depending on how you feel about these things. Fascism tends to be conservative and nationalistic to control the status quo. Usually religious, often not accepting of immigrants, foreigners or those that do not look like most others.

Where as liberal political views are to correct injustices such and create a more equal society, pro civil rights and that sort of thing. Taken to the extremes and left wing authoritarians seek to create a classless society and eliminate concentrations of wealth in the upper classes.

Anyway, I strongly suggest you read the link, it's a very good read and sums up what you really should know if you're over the age of 18.

I read those long before you were born darling. Now, once again. To the individual citizen, tell the class (in your own words, dear), what is the difference between fascism and socialism. And, yet again....be SPECIFIC.

 

[HappyJoy]

The political spectrum isn't split between anarchy and authoritarianism just because you want it to be. Both the extreme right and left are authoritarian.

I hate to break it to you, but yes, it is. One side you have maximum government control. And the opposite is no government control. In other words anarchy. Where a country falls along that line determines how much freedom the citizens enjoy. Totalitarianism is horrible as that leads to mass murder. Anarchy is bad as that leads to strong preying on weak. The best systems are those that maintain a healthy degree of both socialist, AND capitalist philosophies.

No, Fascism is very much right wing. I'm sorry you've fallen for this very recent trope that anything authoritarian is liberal, it's just not true.

How is fascism different from socialism TO THE INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS LIVING UNDER THAT FORM OF GOVERNMENT? Be specific.

I suppose you could look here for a great explanaition of far right and left authoritarianism.

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-people-call-Fascism-right-wing

Usually there is always a victim and government is used as the tool to extract extreme vengeance or justice depending on how you feel about these things. Fascism tends to be conservative and nationalistic to control the status quo. Usually religious, often not accepting of immigrants, foreigners or those that do not look like most others.

Where as liberal political views are to correct injustices such and create a more equal society, pro civil rights and that sort of thing. Taken to the extremes and left wing authoritarians seek to create a classless society and eliminate concentrations of wealth in the upper classes.

Anyway, I strongly suggest you read the link, it's a very good read and sums up what you really should know if you're over the age of 18.

I read those long before you were born darling. Now, once again. To the individual citizen, tell the class (in your own words, dear), what is the difference between fascism and socialism. And, yet again....be SPECIFIC.

I gave you my answer with a link that lays it out for you.

But please, go ahead and take this thread further off topic, mod.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

I am well aware of how you fucktards can get away with calling Nazis left wing and then have the temerity to equate them to what is commonly referred to the left in this country today. Yes, if you base the distinction solely on the size and role of government, you can argue that Nazis are left wing.

https://www.diffen.com/difference/Left_Wing_vs_Right_Wing

But that dumbs down the conversation by disregarding that the size and role of government is only one factor in the equation that determines the actual nature of the government or the ideology. Nazis and the current US administration both use government to reward a favored few, denigrate minorities, and wage war on others as well as their own people. And while the US administration preaches the right-wing rhetoric of small government, they are selective in what that actually looks like. They want small government when it comes to taxes, social safety net programs, protection for the environment and consumer protection, but are all to eager to impose government on women’s reproductive health, the choices available to people when it comes to who they can marry and freedom of the press. Yes, free speech. So this left-right dichotomy fails your assessment that the ACLU only defends the left, your argument fails pathetically and miserably. Do you see the logical problem there?

Try using your head, instead of listening to the morons who actually taught you that silliness. If total government control is on one side of the political spectrum. What, logically, is on the other side?

The political spectrum isn't split between anarchy and authoritarianism just because you want it to be. Both the extreme right and left are authoritarian.

I hate to break it to you, but yes, it is. One side you have maximum government control. And the opposite is no government control. In other words anarchy. Where a country falls along that line determines how much freedom the citizens enjoy. Totalitarianism is horrible as that leads to mass murder. Anarchy is bad as that leads to strong preying on weak. The best systems are those that maintain a healthy degree of both socialist, AND capitalist philosophies.

No, Fascism is very much right wing. I'm sorry you've fallen for this very recent trope that anything authoritarian is liberal, it's just not true.

How is fascism different from socialism TO THE INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS LIVING UNDER THAT FORM OF GOVERNMENT? Be specific.

Fascism is an oppressive political ideology. Socialism is an economic philosophy. Is Berny Sanders a Fascist?

 

[HappyJoy]

Try using your head, instead of listening to the morons who actually taught you that silliness. If total government control is on one side of the political spectrum. What, logically, is on the other side?

The political spectrum isn't split between anarchy and authoritarianism just because you want it to be. Both the extreme right and left are authoritarian.

I hate to break it to you, but yes, it is. One side you have maximum government control. And the opposite is no government control. In other words anarchy. Where a country falls along that line determines how much freedom the citizens enjoy. Totalitarianism is horrible as that leads to mass murder. Anarchy is bad as that leads to strong preying on weak. The best systems are those that maintain a healthy degree of both socialist, AND capitalist philosophies.

No, Fascism is very much right wing. I'm sorry you've fallen for this very recent trope that anything authoritarian is liberal, it's just not true.

How is fascism different from socialism TO THE INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS LIVING UNDER THAT FORM OF GOVERNMENT? Be specific.

Fascism is an oppressive political ideology. Socialism is an economic philosophy. Is Berny Sanders a Fascist?

Oof, you asked the wrong guy.

 

[westwall]

Try using your head, instead of listening to the morons who actually taught you that silliness. If total government control is on one side of the political spectrum. What, logically, is on the other side?

The political spectrum isn't split between anarchy and authoritarianism just because you want it to be. Both the extreme right and left are authoritarian.

I hate to break it to you, but yes, it is. One side you have maximum government control. And the opposite is no government control. In other words anarchy. Where a country falls along that line determines how much freedom the citizens enjoy. Totalitarianism is horrible as that leads to mass murder. Anarchy is bad as that leads to strong preying on weak. The best systems are those that maintain a healthy degree of both socialist, AND capitalist philosophies.

No, Fascism is very much right wing. I'm sorry you've fallen for this very recent trope that anything authoritarian is liberal, it's just not true.

How is fascism different from socialism TO THE INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS LIVING UNDER THAT FORM OF GOVERNMENT? Be specific.

Fascism is an oppressive political ideology. Socialism is an economic philosophy. Is Berny Sanders a Fascist?

You are not answering the question I asked. Furthermore you ignore the fact that fascism is LIKEWISE an economic philosophy. So, I will ask you to also describe the difference to an individual citizen between life under a socialist government, and a socialist one. And once again. Be specific.

 

[HappyJoy]

The political spectrum isn't split between anarchy and authoritarianism just because you want it to be. Both the extreme right and left are authoritarian.

I hate to break it to you, but yes, it is. One side you have maximum government control. And the opposite is no government control. In other words anarchy. Where a country falls along that line determines how much freedom the citizens enjoy. Totalitarianism is horrible as that leads to mass murder. Anarchy is bad as that leads to strong preying on weak. The best systems are those that maintain a healthy degree of both socialist, AND capitalist philosophies.

No, Fascism is very much right wing. I'm sorry you've fallen for this very recent trope that anything authoritarian is liberal, it's just not true.

How is fascism different from socialism TO THE INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS LIVING UNDER THAT FORM OF GOVERNMENT? Be specific.

Fascism is an oppressive political ideology. Socialism is an economic philosophy. Is Berny Sanders a Fascist?

You are not answering the question I asked. Furthermore you ignore the fact that fascism is LIKEWISE an economic philosophy. So, I will ask you to also describe the difference to an individual citizen between life under a socialist government, and a socialist one. And once again. Be specific.

I gave you the differences between far right and left authoritarians and provided a source. You've given nothing, your questions are nothing more than red herrings.

And now you want to know the difference a citizen faces 'under a socialist government, and a socialist one'? Yeah, you're making a lot of sense there Einstein.

Funny, we weren't even talking about socialism before. But if you mean democratic socialism like in much of Europe? I imagine it's pretty good and democratic. Unlike say Russia.

 

[westwall]

I hate to break it to you, but yes, it is. One side you have maximum government control. And the opposite is no government control. In other words anarchy. Where a country falls along that line determines how much freedom the citizens enjoy. Totalitarianism is horrible as that leads to mass murder. Anarchy is bad as that leads to strong preying on weak. The best systems are those that maintain a healthy degree of both socialist, AND capitalist philosophies.

No, Fascism is very much right wing. I'm sorry you've fallen for this very recent trope that anything authoritarian is liberal, it's just not true.

How is fascism different from socialism TO THE INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS LIVING UNDER THAT FORM OF GOVERNMENT? Be specific.

Fascism is an oppressive political ideology. Socialism is an economic philosophy. Is Berny Sanders a Fascist?

You are not answering the question I asked. Furthermore you ignore the fact that fascism is LIKEWISE an economic philosophy. So, I will ask you to also describe the difference to an individual citizen between life under a socialist government, and a socialist one. And once again. Be specific.

I gave you the differences between far right and left authoritarians and provided a source. You've given nothing, your questions are nothing more than red herrings.

And now you want to know the difference a citizen faces 'under a socialist government, and a socialist one'? Yeah, you're making a lot of sense there Einstein.

Funny, we weren't even talking about socialism before. But if you mean democratic socialism like in much of Europe? I imagine it's pretty good and democratic. Unlike say Russia.

No, you didn't. You have dodged around what I asked of you. ANSWER the question. And use your own damned words, or are you incapable of even that simple a project?

 

[HappyJoy]

No, Fascism is very much right wing. I'm sorry you've fallen for this very recent trope that anything authoritarian is liberal, it's just not true.

How is fascism different from socialism TO THE INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS LIVING UNDER THAT FORM OF GOVERNMENT? Be specific.

Fascism is an oppressive political ideology. Socialism is an economic philosophy. Is Berny Sanders a Fascist?

You are not answering the question I asked. Furthermore you ignore the fact that fascism is LIKEWISE an economic philosophy. So, I will ask you to also describe the difference to an individual citizen between life under a socialist government, and a socialist one. And once again. Be specific.

I gave you the differences between far right and left authoritarians and provided a source. You've given nothing, your questions are nothing more than red herrings.

And now you want to know the difference a citizen faces 'under a socialist government, and a socialist one'? Yeah, you're making a lot of sense there Einstein.

Funny, we weren't even talking about socialism before. But if you mean democratic socialism like in much of Europe? I imagine it's pretty good and democratic. Unlike say Russia.

No, you didn't. You have dodged around what I asked of you. ANSWER the question. And use your own damned words, or are you incapable of even that simple a project?

Oppression is going to feel like oppression. I have used my own words and I've also provided you a source, my source did a much better job of describing the differences. In the meantime you haven't done shit to prove your point.

There are plenty of conservatives who have authoritarian tendencies. For example, in 2018 many still don't want gay marriage to be legal. They are OK with removing citizens from the voting roles and often times because they blame immigrants and minorities for illegally voting. They hold rallies demonstrating their racial superiority, many want to kick out people of color. Their leaders tell them how evil the free press is and how they are being screwed over by poor people. They want to ban people based on their religion and spy on them without cause in their places of worship. They want to tell them when and where they can build their mosques and they don't see any moral conflicts with separating families and caging their children with little to no concern for having a plan to reunite these families. They force children into court, as little as 3 or 4 years old to defend their status in this country.

Oh, there is such a thing as right wing authoritarians, it's just hard to see when you agree with them.

 

[westwall]

How is fascism different from socialism TO THE INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS LIVING UNDER THAT FORM OF GOVERNMENT? Be specific.

Fascism is an oppressive political ideology. Socialism is an economic philosophy. Is Berny Sanders a Fascist?

You are not answering the question I asked. Furthermore you ignore the fact that fascism is LIKEWISE an economic philosophy. So, I will ask you to also describe the difference to an individual citizen between life under a socialist government, and a socialist one. And once again. Be specific.

I gave you the differences between far right and left authoritarians and provided a source. You've given nothing, your questions are nothing more than red herrings.

And now you want to know the difference a citizen faces 'under a socialist government, and a socialist one'? Yeah, you're making a lot of sense there Einstein.

Funny, we weren't even talking about socialism before. But if you mean democratic socialism like in much of Europe? I imagine it's pretty good and democratic. Unlike say Russia.

No, you didn't. You have dodged around what I asked of you. ANSWER the question. And use your own damned words, or are you incapable of even that simple a project?

Oppression is going to feel like oppression. I have used my own words and I've also provided you a source, my source did a much better job of describing the differences. In the meantime you haven't done shit to prove your point.

There are plenty of conservatives who have authoritarian tendencies. For example, in 2018 many still don't want gay marriage to be legal. They are OK with removing citizens from the voting roles and often times because they blame immigrants and minorities for illegally voting. They hold rallies demonstrating their racial superiority, many want to kick out people of color. Their leaders tell them how evil the free press is and how they are being screwed over by poor people. They want to ban people based on their religion and spy on them without cause in their places of worship. They want to tell them when and where they can build their mosques and they don't see any moral conflicts with separating families and caging their children with little to no concern for having a plan to reunite these families. They force children into court, as little as 3 or 4 years old to defend their status in this country.

Oh, there is such a thing as right wing authoritarians, it's just hard to see when you agree with them.

C'mon happy. You have to be better than this. I want you to go into just a little bit of detail here. You need to put a modicum of effort into this you central thesis.

 

[HappyJoy]

Fascism is an oppressive political ideology. Socialism is an economic philosophy. Is Berny Sanders a Fascist?

You are not answering the question I asked. Furthermore you ignore the fact that fascism is LIKEWISE an economic philosophy. So, I will ask you to also describe the difference to an individual citizen between life under a socialist government, and a socialist one. And once again. Be specific.

I gave you the differences between far right and left authoritarians and provided a source. You've given nothing, your questions are nothing more than red herrings.

And now you want to know the difference a citizen faces 'under a socialist government, and a socialist one'? Yeah, you're making a lot of sense there Einstein.

Funny, we weren't even talking about socialism before. But if you mean democratic socialism like in much of Europe? I imagine it's pretty good and democratic. Unlike say Russia.

No, you didn't. You have dodged around what I asked of you. ANSWER the question. And use your own damned words, or are you incapable of even that simple a project?

Oppression is going to feel like oppression. I have used my own words and I've also provided you a source, my source did a much better job of describing the differences. In the meantime you haven't done shit to prove your point.

There are plenty of conservatives who have authoritarian tendencies. For example, in 2018 many still don't want gay marriage to be legal. They are OK with removing citizens from the voting roles and often times because they blame immigrants and minorities for illegally voting. They hold rallies demonstrating their racial superiority, many want to kick out people of color. Their leaders tell them how evil the free press is and how they are being screwed over by poor people. They want to ban people based on their religion and spy on them without cause in their places of worship. They want to tell them when and where they can build their mosques and they don't see any moral conflicts with separating families and caging their children with little to no concern for having a plan to reunite these families. They force children into court, as little as 3 or 4 years old to defend their status in this country.

Oh, there is such a thing as right wing authoritarians, it's just hard to see when you agree with them.

C'mon happy. You have to be better than this. I want you to go into just a little bit of detail here. You need to put a modicum of effort into this you central thesis.

Effort into what? I've put more effort into this than you have, you lazy.

 

[westwall]

You are not answering the question I asked. Furthermore you ignore the fact that fascism is LIKEWISE an economic philosophy. So, I will ask you to also describe the difference to an individual citizen between life under a socialist government, and a socialist one. And once again. Be specific.

I gave you the differences between far right and left authoritarians and provided a source. You've given nothing, your questions are nothing more than red herrings.

And now you want to know the difference a citizen faces 'under a socialist government, and a socialist one'? Yeah, you're making a lot of sense there Einstein.

Funny, we weren't even talking about socialism before. But if you mean democratic socialism like in much of Europe? I imagine it's pretty good and democratic. Unlike say Russia.

No, you didn't. You have dodged around what I asked of you. ANSWER the question. And use your own damned words, or are you incapable of even that simple a project?

Oppression is going to feel like oppression. I have used my own words and I've also provided you a source, my source did a much better job of describing the differences. In the meantime you haven't done shit to prove your point.

There are plenty of conservatives who have authoritarian tendencies. For example, in 2018 many still don't want gay marriage to be legal. They are OK with removing citizens from the voting roles and often times because they blame immigrants and minorities for illegally voting. They hold rallies demonstrating their racial superiority, many want to kick out people of color. Their leaders tell them how evil the free press is and how they are being screwed over by poor people. They want to ban people based on their religion and spy on them without cause in their places of worship. They want to tell them when and where they can build their mosques and they don't see any moral conflicts with separating families and caging their children with little to no concern for having a plan to reunite these families. They force children into court, as little as 3 or 4 years old to defend their status in this country.

Oh, there is such a thing as right wing authoritarians, it's just hard to see when you agree with them.

C'mon happy. You have to be better than this. I want you to go into just a little bit of detail here. You need to put a modicum of effort into this you central thesis.

Effort into what? I've put more effort into this than you have, you lazy.

I asked you for specifics, and you respond with generalizations. In other words, you either don't really know what you are talking about, or you know, you just don't want to admit it. I will make it easier for you. How are property Rights different between socialism and fascism?

 

[HappyJoy]

I gave you the differences between far right and left authoritarians and provided a source. You've given nothing, your questions are nothing more than red herrings.

And now you want to know the difference a citizen faces 'under a socialist government, and a socialist one'? Yeah, you're making a lot of sense there Einstein.

Funny, we weren't even talking about socialism before. But if you mean democratic socialism like in much of Europe? I imagine it's pretty good and democratic. Unlike say Russia.

No, you didn't. You have dodged around what I asked of you. ANSWER the question. And use your own damned words, or are you incapable of even that simple a project?

Oppression is going to feel like oppression. I have used my own words and I've also provided you a source, my source did a much better job of describing the differences. In the meantime you haven't done shit to prove your point.

There are plenty of conservatives who have authoritarian tendencies. For example, in 2018 many still don't want gay marriage to be legal. They are OK with removing citizens from the voting roles and often times because they blame immigrants and minorities for illegally voting. They hold rallies demonstrating their racial superiority, many want to kick out people of color. Their leaders tell them how evil the free press is and how they are being screwed over by poor people. They want to ban people based on their religion and spy on them without cause in their places of worship. They want to tell them when and where they can build their mosques and they don't see any moral conflicts with separating families and caging their children with little to no concern for having a plan to reunite these families. They force children into court, as little as 3 or 4 years old to defend their status in this country.

Oh, there is such a thing as right wing authoritarians, it's just hard to see when you agree with them.

C'mon happy. You have to be better than this. I want you to go into just a little bit of detail here. You need to put a modicum of effort into this you central thesis.

Effort into what? I've put more effort into this than you have, you lazy.

I asked you for specifics, and you respond with generalizations. In other words, you either don't really know what you are talking about, or you know, you just don't want to admit it. I will make it easier for you. How are property Rights different between socialism and fascism?

I gave you specifics and I gave you examples of conservatives today whose actions have at least an authoritarian vibe. I'm sorry you don't like that and choose to ignore or even reply to what I have posted.

Property rights? Since you can own your own business and home under a fascist regime I'm not sure what your point is. Where as socialism you can as well as you would in a capitalist society. Now with a communist regime...well, if it's like China you can own your own home there as well. So, what is your point here?

I feel like you're trying to make a point but you want me to do it for you? Right? No?

 

[westwall]

No, you didn't. You have dodged around what I asked of you. ANSWER the question. And use your own damned words, or are you incapable of even that simple a project?

Oppression is going to feel like oppression. I have used my own words and I've also provided you a source, my source did a much better job of describing the differences. In the meantime you haven't done shit to prove your point.

There are plenty of conservatives who have authoritarian tendencies. For example, in 2018 many still don't want gay marriage to be legal. They are OK with removing citizens from the voting roles and often times because they blame immigrants and minorities for illegally voting. They hold rallies demonstrating their racial superiority, many want to kick out people of color. Their leaders tell them how evil the free press is and how they are being screwed over by poor people. They want to ban people based on their religion and spy on them without cause in their places of worship. They want to tell them when and where they can build their mosques and they don't see any moral conflicts with separating families and caging their children with little to no concern for having a plan to reunite these families. They force children into court, as little as 3 or 4 years old to defend their status in this country.

Oh, there is such a thing as right wing authoritarians, it's just hard to see when you agree with them.

C'mon happy. You have to be better than this. I want you to go into just a little bit of detail here. You need to put a modicum of effort into this you central thesis.

Effort into what? I've put more effort into this than you have, you lazy.

I asked you for specifics, and you respond with generalizations. In other words, you either don't really know what you are talking about, or you know, you just don't want to admit it. I will make it easier for you. How are property Rights different between socialism and fascism?

I gave you specifics and I gave you examples of conservatives today whose actions have at least an authoritarian vibe. I'm sorry you don't like that and choose to ignore or even reply to what I have posted.

Property rights? Since you can own your own business and home under a fascist regime I'm not sure what your point is. Where as socialism you can as well as you would in a capitalist society. Now with a communist regime...well, if it's like China you can own your own home there as well. So, what is your point here?

I feel like you're trying to make a point but you want me to do it for you? Right? No?

No, you didn't. You never give specifics because you either don't know what they are (likely) or because you do know but don't want to admit them. So once again little dodge ball. What are the Private Property Rights differences between socialism and fascism.