After the crisis has passed and normalcy is restored, let's kick Texas out of the USA

[sartre play]

Texas IS part of the United states, problem we have? America has become less & less united, why any one see's this as a good thing is beyond me.

 

[noonereal]

After the crisis has passed and normalcy is restored, let's kick Texas out of the USA

Great idea!

 

[noonereal]

America has become less & less united, why any one see's this as a good thing is beyond me

it's not which is why we need to get rid of this ridiculous 50 state crap. Our forefathers fucked up big time by separating states. The cultures have never been prodded to move as one with this lame idea.

 

[Mustang]

After the crisis has passed and normalcy is restored, let's kick Texas out of the USA

Great idea!

Let them spend some serious Texas tax money to raise an Army and a Navy instead of using my tax dollars to do so.

 

[Kilroy2]

If people recall, a lot of elected representatives from Texas balked at paying for natural disasters in CA (wildfires) and NY (Hurricane Sandy in 2012). While the disasters were predictable (in a historical sense, only), they certainly were not preventable. However, the Texas debacle of frozen power grids, an independent power grid unable to tap power from surrounding states, a virtual statewide loss of power, frozen and burst water pipes, a lack of drinking water and food, were all preventable if those conservative cheapskate Texas officials had actually planned ahead and spent the necessary money over time to weatherize their infrastructure. But no! They don't like gov't, and they don't like to plan ahead. However, what they DO want is for the rest of the US to bail them out. I'm sick of it, and I'm sick of them.

Now, unlike Ted Cruz, I care about human suffering (aside from himself and his family only). So, here's what I propose. Let's help Texas and Texans get back on their feet. Afterward, considering that they've been talking about seceding anyway, let's just give them the heave ho. As Fleetwood Mack once intoned, let them go their own way (and pay their own way).

Here's a helpful hint, Texas... You better start planning ahead! I know what I'm talking about because I live in a well-run Democratic state, and most of the people here are grateful to have competent governance that foresees problems before they arise and tackles them before they become crises on our doorsteps.

Texas problem is another George Bush ( Texas oil man) gift. Lets deregulate the industry in the late 90's and depend on fossil fuel to provides us energy without government intervention. Well it work for awhile but when disaster strikes, it is the state government that looks foolish by believing " absolute faith in deregulation".

Should we kick them out of course not. They have oil so they still are useful.

Hey Stupid, the govt intervention was the subsidizing wind and solar that failed miserably. It accounts for 25% of energy in TX, and was 39% of the failed energy in TX. That overloaded the natural gas and coal portion of the grid.

Meanwhile windmills in Antarctica work year round. Gas lines froze and thus ain't the first time fuck those worthless braggards. They wanna secedie let them. Hope they don't let the door hit them in the ass.

So? You think those windmills are exactly the same as those in TX?
Please tell us you aren't that dumb.

The difference is that windmills in the colder climates are made to work even when it gets cold. Texas windmills owners do not want to spend the extra money to make then resistant to cold in warm sunny Texas.
Deicing and other tools to retain heating are not used in windmills in Texas. It is a business decision. Since the state does not regulate them then it is the owner's decision to spend the extra money on deicing and heating equipment.

I guess they decided it wasn't worth it and the state not going to say anything.

Why would you spend the money for weather that might occur every hundred years? Texas wasn't ready for this anymore than North Dakota would be ready for 110 degree temps! It doesn't mean there needs to be more regulations by government! People learn by experience. It took me one hurricane and not having power or AC in the Florida summer heat for 11 days to figure out that having a generator was a really good idea! I didn't need a regulation to make me do that...I made that call on my own! Texas and Texans will do the same thing.

So You seem to be saying that companies will not spend money on methods to keep it from happening again as it is a rare incident.

With your comparison it still is something that should be considered. The problem was with all power sources including renewable and fossil fuels. .

Should this be a wake up call for Texas to spend some money on something that doesn't happen often but when it does it is best to be prepared for anything.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

After the crisis has passed and normalcy is restored, let's kick Texas out of the USA

Great idea!

Let them spend some serious Texas tax money to raise an Army and a Navy instead of using my tax dollars to do so.

So, instead of sending taxes to DC, we can use it on our own military?

Deal!!!

 

[SassyIrishLass]

You mean laugh at them.

Why would you laugh...every time we say let's go our seperate ways...you say no.

I'm very pleased a liberal loon like Mustang has come to one rational conclusion .... That a house divided against itself cannot stand.

We'll all be happier when you pajama people have your socialist utopia and we...the people who actually want freedom and liberty can have it.

Your side would fail very quickly. You don't have any policy that actually works. Repub governors do ok sometimes cause they don't have military spending. Repubs would bankrupt your side quickly. People aren't as separated as you might think.

Roflmao as more than a couple of blue states are fiscally insolvent

Again.....roflmao

 

[Kilroy2]

If people recall, a lot of elected representatives from Texas balked at paying for natural disasters in CA (wildfires) and NY (Hurricane Sandy in 2012). While the disasters were predictable (in a historical sense, only), they certainly were not preventable. However, the Texas debacle of frozen power grids, an independent power grid unable to tap power from surrounding states, a virtual statewide loss of power, frozen and burst water pipes, a lack of drinking water and food, were all preventable if those conservative cheapskate Texas officials had actually planned ahead and spent the necessary money over time to weatherize their infrastructure. But no! They don't like gov't, and they don't like to plan ahead. However, what they DO want is for the rest of the US to bail them out. I'm sick of it, and I'm sick of them.

Now, unlike Ted Cruz, I care about human suffering (aside from himself and his family only). So, here's what I propose. Let's help Texas and Texans get back on their feet. Afterward, considering that they've been talking about seceding anyway, let's just give them the heave ho. As Fleetwood Mack once intoned, let them go their own way (and pay their own way).

Here's a helpful hint, Texas... You better start planning ahead! I know what I'm talking about because I live in a well-run Democratic state, and most of the people here are grateful to have competent governance that foresees problems before they arise and tackles them before they become crises on our doorsteps.

Texas problem is another George Bush ( Texas oil man) gift. Lets deregulate the industry in the late 90's and depend on fossil fuel to provides us energy without government intervention. Well it work for awhile but when disaster strikes, it is the state government that looks foolish by believing " absolute faith in deregulation".

Should we kick them out of course not. They have oil so they still are useful.

Hey Stupid, the govt intervention was the subsidizing wind and solar that failed miserably. It accounts for 25% of energy in TX, and was 39% of the failed energy in TX. That overloaded the natural gas and coal portion of the grid.

Meanwhile windmills in Antarctica work year round. Gas lines froze and thus ain't the first time fuck those worthless braggards. They wanna secedie let them. Hope they don't let the door hit them in the ass.

So? You think those windmills are exactly the same as those in TX?
Please tell us you aren't that dumb.

The difference is that windmills in the colder climates are made to work even when it gets cold. Texas windmills owners do not want to spend the extra money to make then resistant to cold in warm sunny Texas.
Deicing and other tools to retain heating are not used in windmills in Texas. It is a business decision. Since the state does not regulate them then it is the owner's decision to spend the extra money on deicing and heating equipment.

I guess they decided it wasn't worth it and the state not going to say anything.

Why would you spend the money for weather that might occur every hundred years? Texas wasn't ready for this anymore than North Dakota would be ready for 110 degree temps! It doesn't mean there needs to be more regulations by government! People learn by experience. It took me one hurricane and not having power or AC in the Florida summer heat for 11 days to figure out that having a generator was a really good idea! I didn't need a regulation to make me do that...I made that call on my own! Texas and Texans will do the same thing.

Good for fucking you. Its not every 100 years. This shit happens. Mean while people are dead. Weather is getting more sporadic. Those fucks are getting billions of our money in aid so some fucks can rape Texas over and over while lining their own pockets and we get to pay for it. Does not end there we tired of paying for your hurricanes and for rich fucks floods that live right on the water. Add in the horse shit threats of succeeding. Ted fucking Cruz and the rest fuck Texas fuck the entire fucking south. We are tired of your shit go fucki g succeed and take your fucking lies and insurrection with your worthless asses. Blue states are tired of your fucking mouths and we are tired of paying for you. You want fat ass Trump as fucking king go do your thing we are fucking sick of you.

It's "seceding" dumbass............and "secede".

You are the one who needs a refund on your education, stupid.

Well you do seem to like the word stupid.

If people recall, a lot of elected representatives from Texas balked at paying for natural disasters in CA (wildfires) and NY (Hurricane Sandy in 2012). While the disasters were predictable (in a historical sense, only), they certainly were not preventable. However, the Texas debacle of frozen power grids, an independent power grid unable to tap power from surrounding states, a virtual statewide loss of power, frozen and burst water pipes, a lack of drinking water and food, were all preventable if those conservative cheapskate Texas officials had actually planned ahead and spent the necessary money over time to weatherize their infrastructure. But no! They don't like gov't, and they don't like to plan ahead. However, what they DO want is for the rest of the US to bail them out. I'm sick of it, and I'm sick of them.

Now, unlike Ted Cruz, I care about human suffering (aside from himself and his family only). So, here's what I propose. Let's help Texas and Texans get back on their feet. Afterward, considering that they've been talking about seceding anyway, let's just give them the heave ho. As Fleetwood Mack once intoned, let them go their own way (and pay their own way).

Here's a helpful hint, Texas... You better start planning ahead! I know what I'm talking about because I live in a well-run Democratic state, and most of the people here are grateful to have competent governance that foresees problems before they arise and tackles them before they become crises on our doorsteps.

Texas problem is another George Bush ( Texas oil man) gift. Lets deregulate the industry in the late 90's and depend on fossil fuel to provides us energy without government intervention. Well it work for awhile but when disaster strikes, it is the state government that looks foolish by believing " absolute faith in deregulation".

Should we kick them out of course not. They have oil so they still are useful.

Hey Stupid, the govt intervention was the subsidizing wind and solar that failed miserably. It accounts for 25% of energy in TX, and was 39% of the failed energy in TX. That overloaded the natural gas and coal portion of the grid.

Yeah take that dunce hat off once in a while as it is know to cut off the circulation of common sense.

Solar or wind does not proved that much energy in oil/gas rich Texas. It really does require that much common sense to figure that out. I would suggest you give up your right wing sites of having any truth. They exist only to tell you what you want to hear.
25 percent you say.

The category of renewable (Sun, Wind) is at lease 7th on the list.

That doesn't even account for how much is sent to other states like California who likes renewable and will buy it from other states.

View attachment 460198

Hey stupid, it isn't 2018 anymore.

I'll await your apology.

View attachment 460331

Yeah not much has changed in 2 years but what is your point.

If people recall, a lot of elected representatives from Texas balked at paying for natural disasters in CA (wildfires) and NY (Hurricane Sandy in 2012). While the disasters were predictable (in a historical sense, only), they certainly were not preventable. However, the Texas debacle of frozen power grids, an independent power grid unable to tap power from surrounding states, a virtual statewide loss of power, frozen and burst water pipes, a lack of drinking water and food, were all preventable if those conservative cheapskate Texas officials had actually planned ahead and spent the necessary money over time to weatherize their infrastructure. But no! They don't like gov't, and they don't like to plan ahead. However, what they DO want is for the rest of the US to bail them out. I'm sick of it, and I'm sick of them.

Now, unlike Ted Cruz, I care about human suffering (aside from himself and his family only). So, here's what I propose. Let's help Texas and Texans get back on their feet. Afterward, considering that they've been talking about seceding anyway, let's just give them the heave ho. As Fleetwood Mack once intoned, let them go their own way (and pay their own way).

Here's a helpful hint, Texas... You better start planning ahead! I know what I'm talking about because I live in a well-run Democratic state, and most of the people here are grateful to have competent governance that foresees problems before they arise and tackles them before they become crises on our doorsteps.

Texas problem is another George Bush ( Texas oil man) gift. Lets deregulate the industry in the late 90's and depend on fossil fuel to provides us energy without government intervention. Well it work for awhile but when disaster strikes, it is the state government that looks foolish by believing " absolute faith in deregulation".

Should we kick them out of course not. They have oil so they still are useful.

Hey Stupid, the govt intervention was the subsidizing wind and solar that failed miserably. It accounts for 25% of energy in TX, and was 39% of the failed energy in TX. That overloaded the natural gas and coal portion of the grid.

Yeah take that dunce hat off once in a while as it is know to cut off the circulation of common sense.

Solar or wind does not proved that much energy in oil/gas rich Texas. It really does require that much common sense to figure that out. I would suggest you give up your right wing sites of having any truth. They exist only to tell you what you want to hear.
25 percent you say.

The category of renewable (Sun, Wind) is at lease 7th on the list.

That doesn't even account for how much is sent to other states like California who likes renewable and will buy it from other states.

View attachment 460198

Hey stupid, it isn't 2018 anymore.

I'll await your apology.

View attachment 460331

You said
It accounts for 25% of energy in TX, and was 39% of the failed energy in TX.

Well 23 % is not 25%.

Though frozen wind turbines were a contributing factor, wind shutdowns accounted for less than 13% of the outages, Dan Woodfin, senior director of system operations for ERCOT, told Bloomberg.

39% is not 13%

Be more accurate and people will start to take you seriously

oh who am I kidding, they won't

 

[SassyIrishLass]

After the crisis has passed and normalcy is restored, let's kick Texas out of the USA

Great idea!

Let them spend some serious Texas tax money to raise an Army and a Navy instead of using my tax dollars to do so.

Lol Let's see a California army and Navy....and when it's unfounded public debt implodes? You're on your own

 

[ESay]

STILL take Texas over New York...or California...or Michigan...when it comes to the strength of their economy

This comparison isnt fair. Will the Texas economy be so impressive without its natural resources?

 

[Nostra]

If people recall, a lot of elected representatives from Texas balked at paying for natural disasters in CA (wildfires) and NY (Hurricane Sandy in 2012). While the disasters were predictable (in a historical sense, only), they certainly were not preventable. However, the Texas debacle of frozen power grids, an independent power grid unable to tap power from surrounding states, a virtual statewide loss of power, frozen and burst water pipes, a lack of drinking water and food, were all preventable if those conservative cheapskate Texas officials had actually planned ahead and spent the necessary money over time to weatherize their infrastructure. But no! They don't like gov't, and they don't like to plan ahead. However, what they DO want is for the rest of the US to bail them out. I'm sick of it, and I'm sick of them.

Now, unlike Ted Cruz, I care about human suffering (aside from himself and his family only). So, here's what I propose. Let's help Texas and Texans get back on their feet. Afterward, considering that they've been talking about seceding anyway, let's just give them the heave ho. As Fleetwood Mack once intoned, let them go their own way (and pay their own way).

Here's a helpful hint, Texas... You better start planning ahead! I know what I'm talking about because I live in a well-run Democratic state, and most of the people here are grateful to have competent governance that foresees problems before they arise and tackles them before they become crises on our doorsteps.

Texas problem is another George Bush ( Texas oil man) gift. Lets deregulate the industry in the late 90's and depend on fossil fuel to provides us energy without government intervention. Well it work for awhile but when disaster strikes, it is the state government that looks foolish by believing " absolute faith in deregulation".

Should we kick them out of course not. They have oil so they still are useful.

Hey Stupid, the govt intervention was the subsidizing wind and solar that failed miserably. It accounts for 25% of energy in TX, and was 39% of the failed energy in TX. That overloaded the natural gas and coal portion of the grid.

Meanwhile windmills in Antarctica work year round. Gas lines froze and thus ain't the first time fuck those worthless braggards. They wanna secedie let them. Hope they don't let the door hit them in the ass.

So? You think those windmills are exactly the same as those in TX?
Please tell us you aren't that dumb.

The difference is that windmills in the colder climates are made to work even when it gets cold. Texas windmills owners do not want to spend the extra money to make then resistant to cold in warm sunny Texas.
Deicing and other tools to retain heating are not used in windmills in Texas. It is a business decision. Since the state does not regulate them then it is the owner's decision to spend the extra money on deicing and heating equipment.

I guess they decided it wasn't worth it and the state not going to say anything.

Why would you spend the money for weather that might occur every hundred years? Texas wasn't ready for this anymore than North Dakota would be ready for 110 degree temps! It doesn't mean there needs to be more regulations by government! People learn by experience. It took me one hurricane and not having power or AC in the Florida summer heat for 11 days to figure out that having a generator was a really good idea! I didn't need a regulation to make me do that...I made that call on my own! Texas and Texans will do the same thing.

Good for fucking you. Its not every 100 years. This shit happens. Mean while people are dead. Weather is getting more sporadic. Those fucks are getting billions of our money in aid so some fucks can rape Texas over and over while lining their own pockets and we get to pay for it. Does not end there we tired of paying for your hurricanes and for rich fucks floods that live right on the water. Add in the horse shit threats of succeeding. Ted fucking Cruz and the rest fuck Texas fuck the entire fucking south. We are tired of your shit go fucki g succeed and take your fucking lies and insurrection with your worthless asses. Blue states are tired of your fucking mouths and we are tired of paying for you. You want fat ass Trump as fucking king go do your thing we are fucking sick of you.

It's "seceding" dumbass............and "secede".

You are the one who needs a refund on your education, stupid.

Well you do seem to like the word stupid.

If people recall, a lot of elected representatives from Texas balked at paying for natural disasters in CA (wildfires) and NY (Hurricane Sandy in 2012). While the disasters were predictable (in a historical sense, only), they certainly were not preventable. However, the Texas debacle of frozen power grids, an independent power grid unable to tap power from surrounding states, a virtual statewide loss of power, frozen and burst water pipes, a lack of drinking water and food, were all preventable if those conservative cheapskate Texas officials had actually planned ahead and spent the necessary money over time to weatherize their infrastructure. But no! They don't like gov't, and they don't like to plan ahead. However, what they DO want is for the rest of the US to bail them out. I'm sick of it, and I'm sick of them.

Now, unlike Ted Cruz, I care about human suffering (aside from himself and his family only). So, here's what I propose. Let's help Texas and Texans get back on their feet. Afterward, considering that they've been talking about seceding anyway, let's just give them the heave ho. As Fleetwood Mack once intoned, let them go their own way (and pay their own way).

Here's a helpful hint, Texas... You better start planning ahead! I know what I'm talking about because I live in a well-run Democratic state, and most of the people here are grateful to have competent governance that foresees problems before they arise and tackles them before they become crises on our doorsteps.

Texas problem is another George Bush ( Texas oil man) gift. Lets deregulate the industry in the late 90's and depend on fossil fuel to provides us energy without government intervention. Well it work for awhile but when disaster strikes, it is the state government that looks foolish by believing " absolute faith in deregulation".

Should we kick them out of course not. They have oil so they still are useful.

Hey Stupid, the govt intervention was the subsidizing wind and solar that failed miserably. It accounts for 25% of energy in TX, and was 39% of the failed energy in TX. That overloaded the natural gas and coal portion of the grid.

Yeah take that dunce hat off once in a while as it is know to cut off the circulation of common sense.

Solar or wind does not proved that much energy in oil/gas rich Texas. It really does require that much common sense to figure that out. I would suggest you give up your right wing sites of having any truth. They exist only to tell you what you want to hear.
25 percent you say.

The category of renewable (Sun, Wind) is at lease 7th on the list.

That doesn't even account for how much is sent to other states like California who likes renewable and will buy it from other states.

View attachment 460198

Hey stupid, it isn't 2018 anymore.

I'll await your apology.

View attachment 460331

Yeah not much has changed in 2 years but what is your point.

If people recall, a lot of elected representatives from Texas balked at paying for natural disasters in CA (wildfires) and NY (Hurricane Sandy in 2012). While the disasters were predictable (in a historical sense, only), they certainly were not preventable. However, the Texas debacle of frozen power grids, an independent power grid unable to tap power from surrounding states, a virtual statewide loss of power, frozen and burst water pipes, a lack of drinking water and food, were all preventable if those conservative cheapskate Texas officials had actually planned ahead and spent the necessary money over time to weatherize their infrastructure. But no! They don't like gov't, and they don't like to plan ahead. However, what they DO want is for the rest of the US to bail them out. I'm sick of it, and I'm sick of them.

Now, unlike Ted Cruz, I care about human suffering (aside from himself and his family only). So, here's what I propose. Let's help Texas and Texans get back on their feet. Afterward, considering that they've been talking about seceding anyway, let's just give them the heave ho. As Fleetwood Mack once intoned, let them go their own way (and pay their own way).

Here's a helpful hint, Texas... You better start planning ahead! I know what I'm talking about because I live in a well-run Democratic state, and most of the people here are grateful to have competent governance that foresees problems before they arise and tackles them before they become crises on our doorsteps.

Texas problem is another George Bush ( Texas oil man) gift. Lets deregulate the industry in the late 90's and depend on fossil fuel to provides us energy without government intervention. Well it work for awhile but when disaster strikes, it is the state government that looks foolish by believing " absolute faith in deregulation".

Should we kick them out of course not. They have oil so they still are useful.

Hey Stupid, the govt intervention was the subsidizing wind and solar that failed miserably. It accounts for 25% of energy in TX, and was 39% of the failed energy in TX. That overloaded the natural gas and coal portion of the grid.

Yeah take that dunce hat off once in a while as it is know to cut off the circulation of common sense.

Solar or wind does not proved that much energy in oil/gas rich Texas. It really does require that much common sense to figure that out. I would suggest you give up your right wing sites of having any truth. They exist only to tell you what you want to hear.
25 percent you say.

The category of renewable (Sun, Wind) is at lease 7th on the list.

That doesn't even account for how much is sent to other states like California who likes renewable and will buy it from other states.

View attachment 460198

Hey stupid, it isn't 2018 anymore.

I'll await your apology.

View attachment 460331

You said
It accounts for 25% of energy in TX, and was 39% of the failed energy in TX.

Well 23 % is not 25%.

Though frozen wind turbines were a contributing factor, wind shutdowns accounted for less than 13% of the outages, Dan Woodfin, senior director of system operations for ERCOT, told Bloomberg.

39% is not 13%

Be more accurate and people will start to take you seriously

oh who am I kidding, they won't

Well 23 % is not 25%.

I guess you missed the 2% solar............or maybe the math was too difficult for ya. 23 + 2 = 25.

You were talking "renewables", Stupid.

 

[Oldestyle]

STILL take Texas over New York...or California...or Michigan...when it comes to the strength of their economy

This comparison isnt fair. Will the Texas economy be so impressive without its natural resources?

Kind of a stupid question, Esay. Texas HAS natural resources. Then again...so do the others.

STILL take Texas over New York...or California...or Michigan...when it comes to the strength of their economy

This comparison isnt fair. Will the Texas economy be so impressive without its natural resources?

How exactly is Texas going to "lose" it's natural resources? They have what they have.

 

[Oldestyle]

If people recall, a lot of elected representatives from Texas balked at paying for natural disasters in CA (wildfires) and NY (Hurricane Sandy in 2012). While the disasters were predictable (in a historical sense, only), they certainly were not preventable. However, the Texas debacle of frozen power grids, an independent power grid unable to tap power from surrounding states, a virtual statewide loss of power, frozen and burst water pipes, a lack of drinking water and food, were all preventable if those conservative cheapskate Texas officials had actually planned ahead and spent the necessary money over time to weatherize their infrastructure. But no! They don't like gov't, and they don't like to plan ahead. However, what they DO want is for the rest of the US to bail them out. I'm sick of it, and I'm sick of them.

Now, unlike Ted Cruz, I care about human suffering (aside from himself and his family only). So, here's what I propose. Let's help Texas and Texans get back on their feet. Afterward, considering that they've been talking about seceding anyway, let's just give them the heave ho. As Fleetwood Mack once intoned, let them go their own way (and pay their own way).

Here's a helpful hint, Texas... You better start planning ahead! I know what I'm talking about because I live in a well-run Democratic state, and most of the people here are grateful to have competent governance that foresees problems before they arise and tackles them before they become crises on our doorsteps.

Texas problem is another George Bush ( Texas oil man) gift. Lets deregulate the industry in the late 90's and depend on fossil fuel to provides us energy without government intervention. Well it work for awhile but when disaster strikes, it is the state government that looks foolish by believing " absolute faith in deregulation".

Should we kick them out of course not. They have oil so they still are useful.

Hey Stupid, the govt intervention was the subsidizing wind and solar that failed miserably. It accounts for 25% of energy in TX, and was 39% of the failed energy in TX. That overloaded the natural gas and coal portion of the grid.

Meanwhile windmills in Antarctica work year round. Gas lines froze and thus ain't the first time fuck those worthless braggards. They wanna secedie let them. Hope they don't let the door hit them in the ass.

So? You think those windmills are exactly the same as those in TX?
Please tell us you aren't that dumb.

The difference is that windmills in the colder climates are made to work even when it gets cold. Texas windmills owners do not want to spend the extra money to make then resistant to cold in warm sunny Texas.
Deicing and other tools to retain heating are not used in windmills in Texas. It is a business decision. Since the state does not regulate them then it is the owner's decision to spend the extra money on deicing and heating equipment.

I guess they decided it wasn't worth it and the state not going to say anything.

Why would you spend the money for weather that might occur every hundred years? Texas wasn't ready for this anymore than North Dakota would be ready for 110 degree temps! It doesn't mean there needs to be more regulations by government! People learn by experience. It took me one hurricane and not having power or AC in the Florida summer heat for 11 days to figure out that having a generator was a really good idea! I didn't need a regulation to make me do that...I made that call on my own! Texas and Texans will do the same thing.

So You seem to be saying that companies will not spend money on methods to keep it from happening again as it is a rare incident.

With your comparison it still is something that should be considered. The problem was with all power sources including renewable and fossil fuels. .

Should this be a wake up call for Texas to spend some money on something that doesn't happen often but when it does it is best to be prepared for anything.

As with all other natural disasters, Texans will have to weigh the pros and cons of preparing for something that may or may not happen again for quite some time. That is no different than say California having to deal with massive forest fires or mudslides. Sometimes we get hit with freak episodes of weather from Mother Nature and we have to reexamine how we HAVE prepared ourselves for such an event.

 

[evenflow1969]

If people recall, a lot of elected representatives from Texas balked at paying for natural disasters in CA (wildfires) and NY (Hurricane Sandy in 2012). While the disasters were predictable (in a historical sense, only), they certainly were not preventable. However, the Texas debacle of frozen power grids, an independent power grid unable to tap power from surrounding states, a virtual statewide loss of power, frozen and burst water pipes, a lack of drinking water and food, were all preventable if those conservative cheapskate Texas officials had actually planned ahead and spent the necessary money over time to weatherize their infrastructure. But no! They don't like gov't, and they don't like to plan ahead. However, what they DO want is for the rest of the US to bail them out. I'm sick of it, and I'm sick of them.

Now, unlike Ted Cruz, I care about human suffering (aside from himself and his family only). So, here's what I propose. Let's help Texas and Texans get back on their feet. Afterward, considering that they've been talking about seceding anyway, let's just give them the heave ho. As Fleetwood Mack once intoned, let them go their own way (and pay their own way).

Here's a helpful hint, Texas... You better start planning ahead! I know what I'm talking about because I live in a well-run Democratic state, and most of the people here are grateful to have competent governance that foresees problems before they arise and tackles them before they become crises on our doorsteps.

Texas problem is another George Bush ( Texas oil man) gift. Lets deregulate the industry in the late 90's and depend on fossil fuel to provides us energy without government intervention. Well it work for awhile but when disaster strikes, it is the state government that looks foolish by believing " absolute faith in deregulation".

Should we kick them out of course not. They have oil so they still are useful.

Hey Stupid, the govt intervention was the subsidizing wind and solar that failed miserably. It accounts for 25% of energy in TX, and was 39% of the failed energy in TX. That overloaded the natural gas and coal portion of the grid.

Meanwhile windmills in Antarctica work year round. Gas lines froze and thus ain't the first time fuck those worthless braggards. They wanna secedie let them. Hope they don't let the door hit them in the ass.

So? You think those windmills are exactly the same as those in TX?
Please tell us you aren't that dumb.

The difference is that windmills in the colder climates are made to work even when it gets cold. Texas windmills owners do not want to spend the extra money to make then resistant to cold in warm sunny Texas.
Deicing and other tools to retain heating are not used in windmills in Texas. It is a business decision. Since the state does not regulate them then it is the owner's decision to spend the extra money on deicing and heating equipment.

I guess they decided it wasn't worth it and the state not going to say anything.

Why would you spend the money for weather that might occur every hundred years? Texas wasn't ready for this anymore than North Dakota would be ready for 110 degree temps! It doesn't mean there needs to be more regulations by government! People learn by experience. It took me one hurricane and not having power or AC in the Florida summer heat for 11 days to figure out that having a generator was a really good idea! I didn't need a regulation to make me do that...I made that call on my own! Texas and Texans will do the same thing.

So You seem to be saying that companies will not spend money on methods to keep it from happening again as it is a rare incident.

With your comparison it still is something that should be considered. The problem was with all power sources including renewable and fossil fuels. .

Should this be a wake up call for Texas to spend some money on something that doesn't happen often but when it does it is best to be prepared for anything.

This is not just a lesson for Texas. To hot and to cold cause problems with the grid. Northern states are consistently experiencing hotter weather than in the past. We should have been burying electricity lines for years to protect against emp and ice.This is a one time cost that would be recouped over years in less need for repair. We should be storing energy in the form of hydrogen gas during non peak hours. Our infrastructure is old , inefficient, and subject to outages. Electrical grid is not the only place. Bridges and sewers are even worse. Both parties keep saying they will do something about it yet never do. Time for term limits. I know over 20 County engineers in my state alone that are retiring in the next six years because they do not have the funds for basic maintenance. They don't want the death threats coming when we can't get where we need to go due to our shifty bridges

 

[Kilroy2]

If people recall, a lot of elected representatives from Texas balked at paying for natural disasters in CA (wildfires) and NY (Hurricane Sandy in 2012). While the disasters were predictable (in a historical sense, only), they certainly were not preventable. However, the Texas debacle of frozen power grids, an independent power grid unable to tap power from surrounding states, a virtual statewide loss of power, frozen and burst water pipes, a lack of drinking water and food, were all preventable if those conservative cheapskate Texas officials had actually planned ahead and spent the necessary money over time to weatherize their infrastructure. But no! They don't like gov't, and they don't like to plan ahead. However, what they DO want is for the rest of the US to bail them out. I'm sick of it, and I'm sick of them.

Now, unlike Ted Cruz, I care about human suffering (aside from himself and his family only). So, here's what I propose. Let's help Texas and Texans get back on their feet. Afterward, considering that they've been talking about seceding anyway, let's just give them the heave ho. As Fleetwood Mack once intoned, let them go their own way (and pay their own way).

Here's a helpful hint, Texas... You better start planning ahead! I know what I'm talking about because I live in a well-run Democratic state, and most of the people here are grateful to have competent governance that foresees problems before they arise and tackles them before they become crises on our doorsteps.

Texas problem is another George Bush ( Texas oil man) gift. Lets deregulate the industry in the late 90's and depend on fossil fuel to provides us energy without government intervention. Well it work for awhile but when disaster strikes, it is the state government that looks foolish by believing " absolute faith in deregulation".

Should we kick them out of course not. They have oil so they still are useful.

Hey Stupid, the govt intervention was the subsidizing wind and solar that failed miserably. It accounts for 25% of energy in TX, and was 39% of the failed energy in TX. That overloaded the natural gas and coal portion of the grid.

Meanwhile windmills in Antarctica work year round. Gas lines froze and thus ain't the first time fuck those worthless braggards. They wanna secedie let them. Hope they don't let the door hit them in the ass.

So? You think those windmills are exactly the same as those in TX?
Please tell us you aren't that dumb.

The difference is that windmills in the colder climates are made to work even when it gets cold. Texas windmills owners do not want to spend the extra money to make then resistant to cold in warm sunny Texas.
Deicing and other tools to retain heating are not used in windmills in Texas. It is a business decision. Since the state does not regulate them then it is the owner's decision to spend the extra money on deicing and heating equipment.

I guess they decided it wasn't worth it and the state not going to say anything.

Why would you spend the money for weather that might occur every hundred years? Texas wasn't ready for this anymore than North Dakota would be ready for 110 degree temps! It doesn't mean there needs to be more regulations by government! People learn by experience. It took me one hurricane and not having power or AC in the Florida summer heat for 11 days to figure out that having a generator was a really good idea! I didn't need a regulation to make me do that...I made that call on my own! Texas and Texans will do the same thing.

Good for fucking you. Its not every 100 years. This shit happens. Mean while people are dead. Weather is getting more sporadic. Those fucks are getting billions of our money in aid so some fucks can rape Texas over and over while lining their own pockets and we get to pay for it. Does not end there we tired of paying for your hurricanes and for rich fucks floods that live right on the water. Add in the horse shit threats of succeeding. Ted fucking Cruz and the rest fuck Texas fuck the entire fucking south. We are tired of your shit go fucki g succeed and take your fucking lies and insurrection with your worthless asses. Blue states are tired of your fucking mouths and we are tired of paying for you. You want fat ass Trump as fucking king go do your thing we are fucking sick of you.

It's "seceding" dumbass............and "secede".

You are the one who needs a refund on your education, stupid.

Well you do seem to like the word stupid.

If people recall, a lot of elected representatives from Texas balked at paying for natural disasters in CA (wildfires) and NY (Hurricane Sandy in 2012). While the disasters were predictable (in a historical sense, only), they certainly were not preventable. However, the Texas debacle of frozen power grids, an independent power grid unable to tap power from surrounding states, a virtual statewide loss of power, frozen and burst water pipes, a lack of drinking water and food, were all preventable if those conservative cheapskate Texas officials had actually planned ahead and spent the necessary money over time to weatherize their infrastructure. But no! They don't like gov't, and they don't like to plan ahead. However, what they DO want is for the rest of the US to bail them out. I'm sick of it, and I'm sick of them.

Now, unlike Ted Cruz, I care about human suffering (aside from himself and his family only). So, here's what I propose. Let's help Texas and Texans get back on their feet. Afterward, considering that they've been talking about seceding anyway, let's just give them the heave ho. As Fleetwood Mack once intoned, let them go their own way (and pay their own way).

Here's a helpful hint, Texas... You better start planning ahead! I know what I'm talking about because I live in a well-run Democratic state, and most of the people here are grateful to have competent governance that foresees problems before they arise and tackles them before they become crises on our doorsteps.

Texas problem is another George Bush ( Texas oil man) gift. Lets deregulate the industry in the late 90's and depend on fossil fuel to provides us energy without government intervention. Well it work for awhile but when disaster strikes, it is the state government that looks foolish by believing " absolute faith in deregulation".

Should we kick them out of course not. They have oil so they still are useful.

Hey Stupid, the govt intervention was the subsidizing wind and solar that failed miserably. It accounts for 25% of energy in TX, and was 39% of the failed energy in TX. That overloaded the natural gas and coal portion of the grid.

Yeah take that dunce hat off once in a while as it is know to cut off the circulation of common sense.

Solar or wind does not proved that much energy in oil/gas rich Texas. It really does require that much common sense to figure that out. I would suggest you give up your right wing sites of having any truth. They exist only to tell you what you want to hear.
25 percent you say.

The category of renewable (Sun, Wind) is at lease 7th on the list.

That doesn't even account for how much is sent to other states like California who likes renewable and will buy it from other states.

View attachment 460198

Hey stupid, it isn't 2018 anymore.

I'll await your apology.

View attachment 460331

Yeah not much has changed in 2 years but what is your point.

If people recall, a lot of elected representatives from Texas balked at paying for natural disasters in CA (wildfires) and NY (Hurricane Sandy in 2012). While the disasters were predictable (in a historical sense, only), they certainly were not preventable. However, the Texas debacle of frozen power grids, an independent power grid unable to tap power from surrounding states, a virtual statewide loss of power, frozen and burst water pipes, a lack of drinking water and food, were all preventable if those conservative cheapskate Texas officials had actually planned ahead and spent the necessary money over time to weatherize their infrastructure. But no! They don't like gov't, and they don't like to plan ahead. However, what they DO want is for the rest of the US to bail them out. I'm sick of it, and I'm sick of them.

Now, unlike Ted Cruz, I care about human suffering (aside from himself and his family only). So, here's what I propose. Let's help Texas and Texans get back on their feet. Afterward, considering that they've been talking about seceding anyway, let's just give them the heave ho. As Fleetwood Mack once intoned, let them go their own way (and pay their own way).

Here's a helpful hint, Texas... You better start planning ahead! I know what I'm talking about because I live in a well-run Democratic state, and most of the people here are grateful to have competent governance that foresees problems before they arise and tackles them before they become crises on our doorsteps.

Texas problem is another George Bush ( Texas oil man) gift. Lets deregulate the industry in the late 90's and depend on fossil fuel to provides us energy without government intervention. Well it work for awhile but when disaster strikes, it is the state government that looks foolish by believing " absolute faith in deregulation".

Should we kick them out of course not. They have oil so they still are useful.

Hey Stupid, the govt intervention was the subsidizing wind and solar that failed miserably. It accounts for 25% of energy in TX, and was 39% of the failed energy in TX. That overloaded the natural gas and coal portion of the grid.

Yeah take that dunce hat off once in a while as it is know to cut off the circulation of common sense.

Solar or wind does not proved that much energy in oil/gas rich Texas. It really does require that much common sense to figure that out. I would suggest you give up your right wing sites of having any truth. They exist only to tell you what you want to hear.
25 percent you say.

The category of renewable (Sun, Wind) is at lease 7th on the list.

That doesn't even account for how much is sent to other states like California who likes renewable and will buy it from other states.

View attachment 460198

Hey stupid, it isn't 2018 anymore.

I'll await your apology.

View attachment 460331

You said
It accounts for 25% of energy in TX, and was 39% of the failed energy in TX.

Well 23 % is not 25%.

Though frozen wind turbines were a contributing factor, wind shutdowns accounted for less than 13% of the outages, Dan Woodfin, senior director of system operations for ERCOT, told Bloomberg.

39% is not 13%

Be more accurate and people will start to take you seriously

oh who am I kidding, they won't

Well 23 % is not 25%.

I guess you missed the 2% solar............or maybe the math was too difficult for ya. 23 + 2 = 25.

You were talking "renewables", Stupid.

You said
It accounts for 25% of energy in TX, and was 39% of the failed energy in TX.

you still have not explained the 39% of the failed energy in Tx
and appear to be ignoring that one point.

 

[Nostra]

If people recall, a lot of elected representatives from Texas balked at paying for natural disasters in CA (wildfires) and NY (Hurricane Sandy in 2012). While the disasters were predictable (in a historical sense, only), they certainly were not preventable. However, the Texas debacle of frozen power grids, an independent power grid unable to tap power from surrounding states, a virtual statewide loss of power, frozen and burst water pipes, a lack of drinking water and food, were all preventable if those conservative cheapskate Texas officials had actually planned ahead and spent the necessary money over time to weatherize their infrastructure. But no! They don't like gov't, and they don't like to plan ahead. However, what they DO want is for the rest of the US to bail them out. I'm sick of it, and I'm sick of them.

Now, unlike Ted Cruz, I care about human suffering (aside from himself and his family only). So, here's what I propose. Let's help Texas and Texans get back on their feet. Afterward, considering that they've been talking about seceding anyway, let's just give them the heave ho. As Fleetwood Mack once intoned, let them go their own way (and pay their own way).

Here's a helpful hint, Texas... You better start planning ahead! I know what I'm talking about because I live in a well-run Democratic state, and most of the people here are grateful to have competent governance that foresees problems before they arise and tackles them before they become crises on our doorsteps.

Texas problem is another George Bush ( Texas oil man) gift. Lets deregulate the industry in the late 90's and depend on fossil fuel to provides us energy without government intervention. Well it work for awhile but when disaster strikes, it is the state government that looks foolish by believing " absolute faith in deregulation".

Should we kick them out of course not. They have oil so they still are useful.

Hey Stupid, the govt intervention was the subsidizing wind and solar that failed miserably. It accounts for 25% of energy in TX, and was 39% of the failed energy in TX. That overloaded the natural gas and coal portion of the grid.

Meanwhile windmills in Antarctica work year round. Gas lines froze and thus ain't the first time fuck those worthless braggards. They wanna secedie let them. Hope they don't let the door hit them in the ass.

So? You think those windmills are exactly the same as those in TX?
Please tell us you aren't that dumb.

The difference is that windmills in the colder climates are made to work even when it gets cold. Texas windmills owners do not want to spend the extra money to make then resistant to cold in warm sunny Texas.
Deicing and other tools to retain heating are not used in windmills in Texas. It is a business decision. Since the state does not regulate them then it is the owner's decision to spend the extra money on deicing and heating equipment.

I guess they decided it wasn't worth it and the state not going to say anything.

Why would you spend the money for weather that might occur every hundred years? Texas wasn't ready for this anymore than North Dakota would be ready for 110 degree temps! It doesn't mean there needs to be more regulations by government! People learn by experience. It took me one hurricane and not having power or AC in the Florida summer heat for 11 days to figure out that having a generator was a really good idea! I didn't need a regulation to make me do that...I made that call on my own! Texas and Texans will do the same thing.

Good for fucking you. Its not every 100 years. This shit happens. Mean while people are dead. Weather is getting more sporadic. Those fucks are getting billions of our money in aid so some fucks can rape Texas over and over while lining their own pockets and we get to pay for it. Does not end there we tired of paying for your hurricanes and for rich fucks floods that live right on the water. Add in the horse shit threats of succeeding. Ted fucking Cruz and the rest fuck Texas fuck the entire fucking south. We are tired of your shit go fucki g succeed and take your fucking lies and insurrection with your worthless asses. Blue states are tired of your fucking mouths and we are tired of paying for you. You want fat ass Trump as fucking king go do your thing we are fucking sick of you.

It's "seceding" dumbass............and "secede".

You are the one who needs a refund on your education, stupid.

Well you do seem to like the word stupid.

If people recall, a lot of elected representatives from Texas balked at paying for natural disasters in CA (wildfires) and NY (Hurricane Sandy in 2012). While the disasters were predictable (in a historical sense, only), they certainly were not preventable. However, the Texas debacle of frozen power grids, an independent power grid unable to tap power from surrounding states, a virtual statewide loss of power, frozen and burst water pipes, a lack of drinking water and food, were all preventable if those conservative cheapskate Texas officials had actually planned ahead and spent the necessary money over time to weatherize their infrastructure. But no! They don't like gov't, and they don't like to plan ahead. However, what they DO want is for the rest of the US to bail them out. I'm sick of it, and I'm sick of them.

Now, unlike Ted Cruz, I care about human suffering (aside from himself and his family only). So, here's what I propose. Let's help Texas and Texans get back on their feet. Afterward, considering that they've been talking about seceding anyway, let's just give them the heave ho. As Fleetwood Mack once intoned, let them go their own way (and pay their own way).

Here's a helpful hint, Texas... You better start planning ahead! I know what I'm talking about because I live in a well-run Democratic state, and most of the people here are grateful to have competent governance that foresees problems before they arise and tackles them before they become crises on our doorsteps.

Texas problem is another George Bush ( Texas oil man) gift. Lets deregulate the industry in the late 90's and depend on fossil fuel to provides us energy without government intervention. Well it work for awhile but when disaster strikes, it is the state government that looks foolish by believing " absolute faith in deregulation".

Should we kick them out of course not. They have oil so they still are useful.

Hey Stupid, the govt intervention was the subsidizing wind and solar that failed miserably. It accounts for 25% of energy in TX, and was 39% of the failed energy in TX. That overloaded the natural gas and coal portion of the grid.

Yeah take that dunce hat off once in a while as it is know to cut off the circulation of common sense.

Solar or wind does not proved that much energy in oil/gas rich Texas. It really does require that much common sense to figure that out. I would suggest you give up your right wing sites of having any truth. They exist only to tell you what you want to hear.
25 percent you say.

The category of renewable (Sun, Wind) is at lease 7th on the list.

That doesn't even account for how much is sent to other states like California who likes renewable and will buy it from other states.

View attachment 460198

Hey stupid, it isn't 2018 anymore.

I'll await your apology.

View attachment 460331

Yeah not much has changed in 2 years but what is your point.

If people recall, a lot of elected representatives from Texas balked at paying for natural disasters in CA (wildfires) and NY (Hurricane Sandy in 2012). While the disasters were predictable (in a historical sense, only), they certainly were not preventable. However, the Texas debacle of frozen power grids, an independent power grid unable to tap power from surrounding states, a virtual statewide loss of power, frozen and burst water pipes, a lack of drinking water and food, were all preventable if those conservative cheapskate Texas officials had actually planned ahead and spent the necessary money over time to weatherize their infrastructure. But no! They don't like gov't, and they don't like to plan ahead. However, what they DO want is for the rest of the US to bail them out. I'm sick of it, and I'm sick of them.

Now, unlike Ted Cruz, I care about human suffering (aside from himself and his family only). So, here's what I propose. Let's help Texas and Texans get back on their feet. Afterward, considering that they've been talking about seceding anyway, let's just give them the heave ho. As Fleetwood Mack once intoned, let them go their own way (and pay their own way).

Here's a helpful hint, Texas... You better start planning ahead! I know what I'm talking about because I live in a well-run Democratic state, and most of the people here are grateful to have competent governance that foresees problems before they arise and tackles them before they become crises on our doorsteps.

Texas problem is another George Bush ( Texas oil man) gift. Lets deregulate the industry in the late 90's and depend on fossil fuel to provides us energy without government intervention. Well it work for awhile but when disaster strikes, it is the state government that looks foolish by believing " absolute faith in deregulation".

Should we kick them out of course not. They have oil so they still are useful.

Hey Stupid, the govt intervention was the subsidizing wind and solar that failed miserably. It accounts for 25% of energy in TX, and was 39% of the failed energy in TX. That overloaded the natural gas and coal portion of the grid.

Yeah take that dunce hat off once in a while as it is know to cut off the circulation of common sense.

Solar or wind does not proved that much energy in oil/gas rich Texas. It really does require that much common sense to figure that out. I would suggest you give up your right wing sites of having any truth. They exist only to tell you what you want to hear.
25 percent you say.

The category of renewable (Sun, Wind) is at lease 7th on the list.

That doesn't even account for how much is sent to other states like California who likes renewable and will buy it from other states.

View attachment 460198

Hey stupid, it isn't 2018 anymore.

I'll await your apology.

View attachment 460331

You said
It accounts for 25% of energy in TX, and was 39% of the failed energy in TX.

Well 23 % is not 25%.

Though frozen wind turbines were a contributing factor, wind shutdowns accounted for less than 13% of the outages, Dan Woodfin, senior director of system operations for ERCOT, told Bloomberg.

39% is not 13%

Be more accurate and people will start to take you seriously

oh who am I kidding, they won't

Well 23 % is not 25%.

I guess you missed the 2% solar............or maybe the math was too difficult for ya. 23 + 2 = 25.

You were talking "renewables", Stupid.

You said
It accounts for 25% of energy in TX, and was 39% of the failed energy in TX.

you still have not explained the 39% of the failed energy in Tx
and appear to be ignoring that one point.

Do you ever get tired of me making you look like the idiot you are?



"In different ways, the very cold weather has impacted every type of generator," said Dan Woodfin, a senior director at ERCOT, earlier this week.
He reported that ERCOT was missing about 46,000 megawatts of production ability due to loss of generators. About 61% of that loss comes from thermal (coal, nuclear, gas) plants shutting down. Only about 39% of the loss comes from wind/solar plants shutting down, Woodfin said.

Dan Patrick discusses Texas energy crisis on GMA | kvue.com

 

[Correll]

If people recall, a lot of elected representatives from Texas balked at paying for natural disasters in CA (wildfires) and NY (Hurricane Sandy in 2012). While the disasters were predictable (in a historical sense, only), they certainly were not preventable. However, the Texas debacle of frozen power grids, an independent power grid unable to tap power from surrounding states, a virtual statewide loss of power, frozen and burst water pipes, a lack of drinking water and food, were all preventable if those conservative cheapskate Texas officials had actually planned ahead and spent the necessary money over time to weatherize their infrastructure. But no! They don't like gov't, and they don't like to plan ahead. However, what they DO want is for the rest of the US to bail them out. I'm sick of it, and I'm sick of them.

Now, unlike Ted Cruz, I care about human suffering (aside from himself and his family only). So, here's what I propose. Let's help Texas and Texans get back on their feet. Afterward, considering that they've been talking about seceding anyway, let's just give them the heave ho. As Fleetwood Mack once intoned, let them go their own way (and pay their own way).

Here's a helpful hint, Texas... You better start planning ahead! I know what I'm talking about because I live in a well-run Democratic state, and most of the people here are grateful to have competent governance that foresees problems before they arise and tackles them before they become crises on our doorsteps.

Texas problem is another George Bush ( Texas oil man) gift. Lets deregulate the industry in the late 90's and depend on fossil fuel to provides us energy without government intervention. Well it work for awhile but when disaster strikes, it is the state government that looks foolish by believing " absolute faith in deregulation".

Should we kick them out of course not. They have oil so they still are useful.

Hey Stupid, the govt intervention was the subsidizing wind and solar that failed miserably. It accounts for 25% of energy in TX, and was 39% of the failed energy in TX. That overloaded the natural gas and coal portion of the grid.

Meanwhile windmills in Antarctica work year round. Gas lines froze and thus ain't the first time fuck those worthless braggards. They wanna secedie let them. Hope they don't let the door hit them in the ass.

So? You think those windmills are exactly the same as those in TX?
Please tell us you aren't that dumb.

I really don't give a fuck you red trash has to say. Fuck Texas let the fucki g bastards secede. Let all the red state secede you can have your fucking horse shit, your mismanagement and your fat ass king. I am quite frankly tired of paying for your dumb asses.

You say that, but if we tried, you would fight us and you know it.

I sure as fuck would not and believe me I am making it my personal mission to point it out to every Democrat I know. We are flat tired of hearing the rights horse shit and paying for the worthless South. It is time to give you fucks exactly what you want and fucking choke on it. As far as I am concerned you can make Trump king and make Mar a Lago your fucking capital and we will keep our tax dollars home. Fuck Texas and fuck the south.

I appreciate that, and I would be just as supportive if the Left Coast had tried to leave during the glorious Trump years. Or in the future if Trump wins in 2024

The glorious Trump years? What a joke. You could be right if you measure it the following ways...A losing trade war with China, declining farm exports (Trump's base), rising deficits as far as the eye can see, Covid death denial, the highest Covid death rate in the world, massive unemployment, broken alliances, emboldened enemies, a massive increase in social disorder, a coarsening of the public debate to the point more Americans feel alienated than ever before.... Shall I go on? I mean, it's a long list.

Trump lost the popular election twice. Then he lost the House of Representatives in 2018. And in 2020, Trump lost the presidency AND the Senate. But he's your electoral hero and future? Then, you are a fool!

He stood up to the lib mob and drove you people into hysterics.


It was glorious.

 

[BlindBoo]

If people recall, a lot of elected representatives from Texas balked at paying for natural disasters in CA (wildfires) and NY (Hurricane Sandy in 2012). While the disasters were predictable (in a historical sense, only), they certainly were not preventable. However, the Texas debacle of frozen power grids, an independent power grid unable to tap power from surrounding states, a virtual statewide loss of power, frozen and burst water pipes, a lack of drinking water and food, were all preventable if those conservative cheapskate Texas officials had actually planned ahead and spent the necessary money over time to weatherize their infrastructure. But no! They don't like gov't, and they don't like to plan ahead. However, what they DO want is for the rest of the US to bail them out. I'm sick of it, and I'm sick of them.

Now, unlike Ted Cruz, I care about human suffering (aside from himself and his family only). So, here's what I propose. Let's help Texas and Texans get back on their feet. Afterward, considering that they've been talking about seceding anyway, let's just give them the heave ho. As Fleetwood Mack once intoned, let them go their own way (and pay their own way).

Here's a helpful hint, Texas... You better start planning ahead! I know what I'm talking about because I live in a well-run Democratic state, and most of the people here are grateful to have competent governance that foresees problems before they arise and tackles them before they become crises on our doorsteps.

Texas problem is another George Bush ( Texas oil man) gift. Lets deregulate the industry in the late 90's and depend on fossil fuel to provides us energy without government intervention. Well it work for awhile but when disaster strikes, it is the state government that looks foolish by believing " absolute faith in deregulation".

Should we kick them out of course not. They have oil so they still are useful.

Hey Stupid, the govt intervention was the subsidizing wind and solar that failed miserably. It accounts for 25% of energy in TX, and was 39% of the failed energy in TX. That overloaded the natural gas and coal portion of the grid.

Meanwhile windmills in Antarctica work year round. Gas lines froze and thus ain't the first time fuck those worthless braggards. They wanna secedie let them. Hope they don't let the door hit them in the ass.

So? You think those windmills are exactly the same as those in TX?
Please tell us you aren't that dumb.

I really don't give a fuck you red trash has to say. Fuck Texas let the fucki g bastards secede. Let all the red state secede you can have your fucking horse shit, your mismanagement and your fat ass king. I am quite frankly tired of paying for your dumb asses.

You say that, but if we tried, you would fight us and you know it.

I sure as fuck would not and believe me I am making it my personal mission to point it out to every Democrat I know. We are flat tired of hearing the rights horse shit and paying for the worthless South. It is time to give you fucks exactly what you want and fucking choke on it. As far as I am concerned you can make Trump king and make Mar a Lago your fucking capital and we will keep our tax dollars home. Fuck Texas and fuck the south.

I appreciate that, and I would be just as supportive if the Left Coast had tried to leave during the glorious Trump years. Or in the future if Trump wins in 2024

The glorious Trump years? What a joke. You could be right if you measure it the following ways...A losing trade war with China, declining farm exports (Trump's base), rising deficits as far as the eye can see, Covid death denial, the highest Covid death rate in the world, massive unemployment, broken alliances, emboldened enemies, a massive increase in social disorder, a coarsening of the public debate to the point more Americans feel alienated than ever before.... Shall I go on? I mean, it's a long list.

Trump lost the popular election twice. Then he lost the House of Representatives in 2018. And in 2020, Trump lost the presidency AND the Senate. But he's your electoral hero and future? Then, you are a fool!

He stood up to the lib mob and drove you people into hysterics.


It was glorious.

He also showed us how the good people in Germany were snookered into accepting Fascist dictatorial rule.

 

[ESay]

STILL take Texas over New York...or California...or Michigan...when it comes to the strength of their economy

This comparison isnt fair. Will the Texas economy be so impressive without its natural resources?

Kind of a stupid question, Esay. Texas HAS natural resources. Then again...so do the others.

STILL take Texas over New York...or California...or Michigan...when it comes to the strength of their economy

This comparison isnt fair. Will the Texas economy be so impressive without its natural resources?

How exactly is Texas going to "lose" it's natural resources? They have what they have.

It was not about losing the resources. You were saying about economic strength. My point was the economy cant be strong (in a distant perspective, at least) if it relies on natural resources. The prices on them are not too stable.

 

[Correll]

If people recall, a lot of elected representatives from Texas balked at paying for natural disasters in CA (wildfires) and NY (Hurricane Sandy in 2012). While the disasters were predictable (in a historical sense, only), they certainly were not preventable. However, the Texas debacle of frozen power grids, an independent power grid unable to tap power from surrounding states, a virtual statewide loss of power, frozen and burst water pipes, a lack of drinking water and food, were all preventable if those conservative cheapskate Texas officials had actually planned ahead and spent the necessary money over time to weatherize their infrastructure. But no! They don't like gov't, and they don't like to plan ahead. However, what they DO want is for the rest of the US to bail them out. I'm sick of it, and I'm sick of them.

Now, unlike Ted Cruz, I care about human suffering (aside from himself and his family only). So, here's what I propose. Let's help Texas and Texans get back on their feet. Afterward, considering that they've been talking about seceding anyway, let's just give them the heave ho. As Fleetwood Mack once intoned, let them go their own way (and pay their own way).

Here's a helpful hint, Texas... You better start planning ahead! I know what I'm talking about because I live in a well-run Democratic state, and most of the people here are grateful to have competent governance that foresees problems before they arise and tackles them before they become crises on our doorsteps.

Texas problem is another George Bush ( Texas oil man) gift. Lets deregulate the industry in the late 90's and depend on fossil fuel to provides us energy without government intervention. Well it work for awhile but when disaster strikes, it is the state government that looks foolish by believing " absolute faith in deregulation".

Should we kick them out of course not. They have oil so they still are useful.

Hey Stupid, the govt intervention was the subsidizing wind and solar that failed miserably. It accounts for 25% of energy in TX, and was 39% of the failed energy in TX. That overloaded the natural gas and coal portion of the grid.

Meanwhile windmills in Antarctica work year round. Gas lines froze and thus ain't the first time fuck those worthless braggards. They wanna secedie let them. Hope they don't let the door hit them in the ass.

So? You think those windmills are exactly the same as those in TX?
Please tell us you aren't that dumb.

I really don't give a fuck you red trash has to say. Fuck Texas let the fucki g bastards secede. Let all the red state secede you can have your fucking horse shit, your mismanagement and your fat ass king. I am quite frankly tired of paying for your dumb asses.

You say that, but if we tried, you would fight us and you know it.

I sure as fuck would not and believe me I am making it my personal mission to point it out to every Democrat I know. We are flat tired of hearing the rights horse shit and paying for the worthless South. It is time to give you fucks exactly what you want and fucking choke on it. As far as I am concerned you can make Trump king and make Mar a Lago your fucking capital and we will keep our tax dollars home. Fuck Texas and fuck the south.

I appreciate that, and I would be just as supportive if the Left Coast had tried to leave during the glorious Trump years. Or in the future if Trump wins in 2024

The glorious Trump years? What a joke. You could be right if you measure it the following ways...A losing trade war with China, declining farm exports (Trump's base), rising deficits as far as the eye can see, Covid death denial, the highest Covid death rate in the world, massive unemployment, broken alliances, emboldened enemies, a massive increase in social disorder, a coarsening of the public debate to the point more Americans feel alienated than ever before.... Shall I go on? I mean, it's a long list.

Trump lost the popular election twice. Then he lost the House of Representatives in 2018. And in 2020, Trump lost the presidency AND the Senate. But he's your electoral hero and future? Then, you are a fool!

He stood up to the lib mob and drove you people into hysterics.


It was glorious.

He also showed us how the good people in Germany were snookered into accepting Fascist dictatorial rule.

You mean because of the way your side resorted to brown shirt tactics with antifa and blm and your virtual lynch mobs?


Trump does not get credit for your side's hysterical reaction to him.