Amazing how ignorant people are of Trump's taxes, write-offs AND INCOME!!!

[Hutch Starskey]

Here's why dimocraps are such SCUM. (among many other reasons)

First, the New Yawk SLIMES obtained those records ILLEGALLY.

Second, they presented them with THEIR EXPLANATION. They made them say what THEY wanted them to say.

Had Trump been able to present the Tax Returns with an explanation, this would be a different discussion.... Although, dimocrap scum are too stupid to understand Tax Returns (most of them don't file anyway) someone could explain them to dimocraps in crayon.

The SLIMES really needs to be brought to heel over this. What they did is a CRIME.

And every penny that Trump deucted was legal. During the Clinton Administration, you can bet they had fifty IRS Tax Lawyers going over those returns with a magnifying glass

Had Trump been able to present the Tax Returns with an explanation, this would be a different discussion....

He's always been able to do so. He opted not to.

Understand yet why candidates release their taxes?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The MSM and idiots galore are having an organism!

We're doing what?

 

[mudwhistle]

Here's why dimocraps are such SCUM. (among many other reasons)

First, the New Yawk SLIMES obtained those records ILLEGALLY.

Second, they presented them with THEIR EXPLANATION. They made them say what THEY wanted them to say.

Had Trump been able to present the Tax Returns with an explanation, this would be a different discussion.... Although, dimocrap scum are too stupid to understand Tax Returns (most of them don't file anyway) someone could explain them to dimocraps in crayon.

The SLIMES really needs to be brought to heel over this. What they did is a CRIME.

And every penny that Trump deucted was legal. During the Clinton Administration, you can bet they had fifty IRS Tax Lawyers going over those returns with a magnifying glass

Had Trump been able to present the Tax Returns with an explanation, this would be a different discussion....

He's always been able to do so. He opted not to.

Understand yet why candidates release their taxes?

Again.......Trump following the law appears to be an area of concern for you.

No surprise here at all, considering the fact that you support Democrats that seem to feel they're above the law.

Kind of an illustration of your own lack of character. Don't you think?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Here's why dimocraps are such SCUM. (among many other reasons)

First, the New Yawk SLIMES obtained those records ILLEGALLY.

Second, they presented them with THEIR EXPLANATION. They made them say what THEY wanted them to say.

Had Trump been able to present the Tax Returns with an explanation, this would be a different discussion.... Although, dimocrap scum are too stupid to understand Tax Returns (most of them don't file anyway) someone could explain them to dimocraps in crayon.

The SLIMES really needs to be brought to heel over this. What they did is a CRIME.

And every penny that Trump deucted was legal. During the Clinton Administration, you can bet they had fifty IRS Tax Lawyers going over those returns with a magnifying glass

I would certainly like someone to ask Hillary what this donation that was taken as a write off was about!!!
Seems kind of self serving to donate $1 million to a foundation named after yourself then take a tax deduction! How does that look?

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How does that look?

Like a donation to a family foundation? Was that a trick question?

A private foundation is a nonprofit organization having a principal fund managed by its own directors or trustees. Private foundations maintain or aid charitable, educational, religious, or other activities serving the public good, primarily through the making of grants to other nonprofit organizations.

 

[mudwhistle]

The MSM and idiots galore are having an organism! Trump had according this article:

The Times, which hired tax experts to analyze the records, determined that “tax rules that are especially advantageous to wealthy filers would have allowed Mr. Trump to use his $916 million loss to cancel out an equivalent amount of taxable income over an 18-year period” -- more than $50 million a year.

Bombshell report on Trump taxes sends GOP nominee reeling

Now think just for a moment. Trump had according to the above "experts" then $50 million a year in
Taxable income to not pay taxes on! OH MY GOODNESS!!!

hmmm....
Let's see.. Assume Trump had businesses with total assets of $2 billion for those last 18 years.
And if Trump earned the average annual returns in long-term real estate investing vary by the area of concentration in the sector. Average 20-year returns in the commercial real estate slightly outperform the S&P 500 Index, running at around 9.5%.

Investopedia What average annual return is typical for a long term investment in the real estate sector?

HMMMMM...
Average real estate holdings of $2 billion over 18 years at 9.5% equals $190 million a year!
$190 million in ROI (for you dummies... Return on Investment) with operating expenses of 50%
leaves $95 million taxable income LESS the notorious $50 million TAX LOSS carry forward LEAVES
$45 million TAXABLE INCOME you idiots!


THAT IS IF HE COULD EVEN WRITE OFF $50 MILLION A YEAR IN LOSSES!

Why doesn't Trump release his tax returns and straighten this all out

What we do know......Trump the great businessman lost a billion dollars in just one year

He is now a serial moocher who refuses to pay taxes

Freeloader Donny

Why doesn't he release his returns?
Two reasons.

1. Because by-law he doesn't have to and his lawyers recommend that he doesn't.
2. If he releases them, it just gives the media more stuff to lie about.

Damned if he do......damned if he don't

But he's a "genius" don't you know.

Compared to you.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Bottom Line: He has not released his taxes. We do not know who his creditors are or how much debt they own.

He is also a bully, a neo fascist, as are those who support him, and Trump is a demagogue, a charlatan and psychologically unfit to be POTUS.

Bottom line, guilty until proven innocent. The fact that you hate him so much makes him the best pick possible.

he could clear all these questions up just by releasing his tax returns as every other candidate has for 4 decades

Every candidate was under audit? You are a stupid liar.

being under audit has no bearing on whether or not he can release his returns. and nixon was under audit.

further, releasing his returns does not change them - so what impact could the release have on the audit?

1995 returns weren't under audit.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Here's why dimocraps are such SCUM. (among many other reasons)

First, the New Yawk SLIMES obtained those records ILLEGALLY.

Second, they presented them with THEIR EXPLANATION. They made them say what THEY wanted them to say.

Had Trump been able to present the Tax Returns with an explanation, this would be a different discussion.... Although, dimocrap scum are too stupid to understand Tax Returns (most of them don't file anyway) someone could explain them to dimocraps in crayon.

The SLIMES really needs to be brought to heel over this. What they did is a CRIME.

And every penny that Trump deucted was legal. During the Clinton Administration, you can bet they had fifty IRS Tax Lawyers going over those returns with a magnifying glass

I would certainly like someone to ask Hillary what this donation that was taken as a write off was about!!!
Seems kind of self serving to donate $1 million to a foundation named after yourself then take a tax deduction! How does that look?

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since they don't financially benefit from the foundation how is it anything but charity?

let me educate you. The Clintons gave 1 million to their foundation and deducted it from their taxes, the foundation then paid them 1 million for "salaries and expenses". Get it now? probably not.

False.

 

[rightwinger]

Trumps inability to control himself may be nonsense...but it does drive home an important point with women

Trumps financial ineptitude and not paying taxes for decades calls into question the qualifications of someone who wants to be president because of his business accumen

Problem with you is you don't know enough to say dick about his business accumen.

The point of any business is to turn a profit. You seem to think paying more than your share in taxes to a wasteful government is good business.

Everyone who isn't a paid hack by the left says that not only what Trump did was legal but but something everyone does and has done and has every right to do, thus the comment about being smart Trump uttered during the debate. Once again, this just proves my statements that Trump shouldn't release his returns, because as this fake issue proves, liberals gotta lie. They can take anything and turn it into a crime. All it takes is a highly active imagination and the willingness to distort the truth.

Would I invest my personal wealth with someone who lost a billion dollars of his own money in a year? Not gunna happen

Was what Trump did legal? I'm sure his well paid team of lawyers made sure it was

Does it show this is the type of "businessman" we want o run the country?
Hardly

I repeat. You need to stick to what you know, retard.

What do I know?

I know that Trump claims to be a great businessman but refuses to provide documented proof

Why should we take his word?

Obviously you don't know enough about the tax code to not appear like a slope headed shitforbrains.

What you're repeating, like a fucking parrot, works on idiots, but anyone who does taxes, like I do, is laughing at how shallow and misinformed you are on this subject.

Simple...SHOW ME

If you refuse to document your business decisions, don't expect me to take your word on it
Especially after you lost a billion dollars in an economic boom year

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Does Donny Freeloader even need to release his taxes now?
The NYT story reveals everything that was always suspected

Donny is not the businessman he claims to be and doesn't pay taxes

If he has proof otherwise, he can provide it

Yep......no need now cuz you fuckers have already decided what's in em anyway.

"Genius" Donald let the media define him and his business acumen.

Maybe he should have released them last year.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Here's why dimocraps are such SCUM. (among many other reasons)

First, the New Yawk SLIMES obtained those records ILLEGALLY.

Second, they presented them with THEIR EXPLANATION. They made them say what THEY wanted them to say.

Had Trump been able to present the Tax Returns with an explanation, this would be a different discussion.... Although, dimocrap scum are too stupid to understand Tax Returns (most of them don't file anyway) someone could explain them to dimocraps in crayon.

The SLIMES really needs to be brought to heel over this. What they did is a CRIME.

And every penny that Trump deucted was legal. During the Clinton Administration, you can bet they had fifty IRS Tax Lawyers going over those returns with a magnifying glass

Had Trump been able to present the Tax Returns with an explanation, this would be a different discussion....

He's always been able to do so. He opted not to.

Understand yet why candidates release their taxes?

Again.......Trump following the law appears to be an area of concern for you.

No surprise here at all, considering the fact that you support Democrats that seem to feel they're above the law.

Kind of an illustration of your own lack of character. Don't you think?

You've spent the entire thread whining about how misrepresented Trump is. He opted not to release them. He can end the speculation at any time.

You do understand now that this is why candidates release tax returns so they cannot be used in this way. It's just another example of Trump's hubris and inexperience.
It's the art of the deal with the American people.

 

[Rustic]

The MSM and idiots galore are having an organism! Trump had according this article:

The Times, which hired tax experts to analyze the records, determined that “tax rules that are especially advantageous to wealthy filers would have allowed Mr. Trump to use his $916 million loss to cancel out an equivalent amount of taxable income over an 18-year period” -- more than $50 million a year.

Bombshell report on Trump taxes sends GOP nominee reeling

Now think just for a moment. Trump had according to the above "experts" then $50 million a year in
Taxable income to not pay taxes on! OH MY GOODNESS!!!

hmmm....
Let's see.. Assume Trump had businesses with total assets of $2 billion for those last 18 years.
And if Trump earned the average annual returns in long-term real estate investing vary by the area of concentration in the sector. Average 20-year returns in the commercial real estate slightly outperform the S&P 500 Index, running at around 9.5%.

Investopedia What average annual return is typical for a long term investment in the real estate sector?

HMMMMM...
Average real estate holdings of $2 billion over 18 years at 9.5% equals $190 million a year!
$190 million in ROI (for you dummies... Return on Investment) with operating expenses of 50%
leaves $95 million taxable income LESS the notorious $50 million TAX LOSS carry forward LEAVES
$45 million TAXABLE INCOME you idiots!


THAT IS IF HE COULD EVEN WRITE OFF $50 MILLION A YEAR IN LOSSES!

Why doesn't Trump release his tax returns and straighten this all out

What we do know......Trump the great businessman lost a billion dollars in just one year

He is now a serial moocher who refuses to pay taxes

Freeloader Donny

Hey candy ass, why are you bitching career politicians made the tax code it what it is. You're as dumb as a bag of hammers LOL

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The MSM and idiots galore are having an organism! Trump had according this article:

The Times, which hired tax experts to analyze the records, determined that “tax rules that are especially advantageous to wealthy filers would have allowed Mr. Trump to use his $916 million loss to cancel out an equivalent amount of taxable income over an 18-year period” -- more than $50 million a year.

Bombshell report on Trump taxes sends GOP nominee reeling

Now think just for a moment. Trump had according to the above "experts" then $50 million a year in
Taxable income to not pay taxes on! OH MY GOODNESS!!!

hmmm....
Let's see.. Assume Trump had businesses with total assets of $2 billion for those last 18 years.
And if Trump earned the average annual returns in long-term real estate investing vary by the area of concentration in the sector. Average 20-year returns in the commercial real estate slightly outperform the S&P 500 Index, running at around 9.5%.

Investopedia What average annual return is typical for a long term investment in the real estate sector?

HMMMMM...
Average real estate holdings of $2 billion over 18 years at 9.5% equals $190 million a year!
$190 million in ROI (for you dummies... Return on Investment) with operating expenses of 50%
leaves $95 million taxable income LESS the notorious $50 million TAX LOSS carry forward LEAVES
$45 million TAXABLE INCOME you idiots!


THAT IS IF HE COULD EVEN WRITE OFF $50 MILLION A YEAR IN LOSSES!

Why doesn't Trump release his tax returns and straighten this all out

What we do know......Trump the great businessman lost a billion dollars in just one year

He is now a serial moocher who refuses to pay taxes

Freeloader Donny

Why doesn't he release his returns?
Two reasons.

1. Because by-law he doesn't have to and his lawyers recommend that he doesn't.
2. If he releases them, it just gives the media more stuff to lie about.

Damned if he do......damned if he don't

But he's a "genius" don't you know.

Compared to you.

My taxes are pristine and would be made readily available. I wouldn't run if they weren't.

 

[80zephyr]

Not bad for a broke guy that only has failures under his belt. But leftist won't care about any tax facts, who wrote the laws or why. They are hypnotized and follow their master's demand.

Only Trump would tell the world that he is "smart" for not paying taxes. What does that tell us about the rest of us who do pay our taxes? Are we stupid???

He had to lose money to avoid paying taxes. Apparently in some rightwing magic kingdom, losing millions is how you demonstrate how smart you are.

You do not have to lose money to avoid paying taxes.

Mark

It's a fact that he lost money. Pay attention.

You stated that he HAD to lose money to avoid paying taxes. Thats not true.

Mark

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Most of these numnutz are probably 1040EZ filers...

 

[Skull Pilot]

This is too funny. The same people who are now defending Trump possibly paying NO federal income tax for 20

years are those who endlessly rant about how even the poor should pay some amount of taxes,

for that 'skin in the game' thing? Eh?

The poor should have 'skin in the game', while the billionaire Trump should get off scot free...

And yet you don't think there should be a flat income tax but you whine about people using all the deductions and loopholes a flat tax would eliminate

So in 1995, instead of paying zero in taxes, Trump should have paid about 1.1 million? 10% of gross income?

And you think a guy like him is going to implement that tax system?

lolol

If he had a loss he'd still be able to writ it off.

In case you didn't know, for businesses the income equals the revenue minus expenses and written off losses

 

[Iceweasel]

This is too funny. The same people who are now defending Trump possibly paying NO federal income tax for 20

years are those who endlessly rant about how even the poor should pay some amount of taxes,

for that 'skin in the game' thing? Eh?

The poor should have 'skin in the game', while the billionaire Trump should get off scot free...

And yet you don't think there should be a flat income tax but you whine about people using all the deductions and loopholes a flat tax would eliminate

So in 1995, instead of paying zero in taxes, Trump should have paid about 1.1 million? 10% of gross income?

And you think a guy like him is going to implement that tax system?

lolol

If he had a loss he'd still be able to writ it off.

In case you didn't know, for businesses the income equals the revenue minus expenses and written off losses

That was top secret intel. You let the cat out of the bag!

 

[leftwinger]

The early 90s' were down years. 92 93 94 down. Things began to get better into 95. Trumps "95" filing would be for 94, correct?

Easy to believe you could lose big money in real estate during that time. He should have made that loss back 10X before the dot com bust 2001-2003.

He did something as I see his name on Forbes list.

 

[Skull Pilot]

The early 90s' were down years. 92 93 94 down. Things began to get better into 95. Trumps "95" filing would be for 94, correct?

Easy to believe you could lose big money in real estate during that time. He should have made that loss back 10X before the dot com bust 2001-2003.

He did something as I see his name on Forbes list.

Large swings are par for the course in a speculative business like real estate development

 

[rightwinger]

The early 90s' were down years. 92 93 94 down. Things began to get better into 95. Trumps "95" filing would be for 94, correct?

Easy to believe you could lose big money in real estate during that time. He should have made that loss back 10X before the dot com bust 2001-2003.

He did something as I see his name on Forbes list.

Trump lost his billion on Atlantic City casino's and Trump Air

 

[Skull Pilot]

The early 90s' were down years. 92 93 94 down. Things began to get better into 95. Trumps "95" filing would be for 94, correct?

Easy to believe you could lose big money in real estate during that time. He should have made that loss back 10X before the dot com bust 2001-2003.

He did something as I see his name on Forbes list.

Trump lost his billion on Atlantic City casino's and Trump Air

Both very volatile business ventures