America's Cities Are Turning Into Poverty Stricken Hell Holes

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Its a case where some once great American cities are losing their relevance. It has happened throughout history. Detroit is a prime example of a city that was built on a single industry collapses when that industry falters

Look up any ghost town and see why it became a ghost town

Meanwhile we have great American cities that are still great and cities most people never heard of 20 years ago that are booming

It's not because they are run by Democrats and have gone broke buying votes with unsustainable entitlement programs... Nope, it couldn't be.

What "entitlement" programs are you referring to?

it goes without saying that the cities are liberal, the more decayed a city is the more liberal it is, and the most decayed part of a city is the most liberal part. This is why Jefferson feared cities so much. He felt people living so close together would inevitably necessitate a lot of sharing and commonality and eventually everyone would be trying to leach off everyone else!

He always turned out to be right it seems!

 

[rightwinger]

It's not because they are run by Democrats and have gone broke buying votes with unsustainable entitlement programs... Nope, it couldn't be.

What "entitlement" programs are you referring to?

it goes without saying that the cities are liberal, the more decayed a city is the more liberal it is, and the most decayed part of a city is the most liberal part. This why Jefferson feared cities so much. He felt people living so close together would inevitably necessitate a lot of sharing and commonality and eventually everyone trying to leach off everyone else!

He always turned out to be right it seems!

Jefferson opposed civilization?

 

[Dugdale_Jukes]

The 25th sign...

http://www.usmessageboard.com/gener...n-the-plutocracy-post7152327.html#post7152327

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

What "entitlement" programs are you referring to?

it goes without saying that the cities are liberal, the more decayed a city is the more liberal it is, and the most decayed part of a city is the most liberal part. This why Jefferson feared cities so much. He felt people living so close together would inevitably necessitate a lot of sharing and commonality and eventually everyone trying to leach off everyone else!

He always turned out to be right it seems!

Jefferson opposed civilization?

it says he feared cities??????????????????

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The 25th sign...

http://www.usmessageboard.com/gener...n-the-plutocracy-post7152327.html#post7152327

have you decided if you are liberal or conservative yet and why?????

 

[rightwinger]

it goes without saying that the cities are liberal, the more decayed a city is the more liberal it is, and the most decayed part of a city is the most liberal part. This why Jefferson feared cities so much. He felt people living so close together would inevitably necessitate a lot of sharing and commonality and eventually everyone trying to leach off everyone else!

He always turned out to be right it seems!

Jefferson opposed civilization?

it says he feared cities??????????????????

Cities are the lifeblood of any civilization

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Jefferson opposed civilization?

it says he feared cities??????????????????

Cities are the lifeblood of any civilization

or the deathblood if they are liberal and influential!

 

[georgephillip]

Very dramatic and highly exaggerated. We have the most beautiful cities in the world. New York looks fine to me, Atlanta is gorgeous, so is Orlando, Ashville, a very long list of cities - Detroit has been in decline for many years. When our poverty rises to the level of Russian poverty? I'll start worrying. The Russian people are far worse off. Check out VOM for a close up look at how the poor live in Russia. Makes Detroit sound like the Taj Mahal!

Do you find anything exaggerated about the following:

"We are in the midst of a long-term economic collapse that is eating away at us like cancer, and things are going to get a lot worse than this. So if you still live in a prosperous area of the country, don't laugh at what is happening to others. What is happening to them will be coming to your area soon enough."

Economic inequality will destroy US democracy in a manner similar to its slow destruction of Rome's Republic.
Some cities will decay before others but all citizens will see their rights steadily diminished by the corporate welfare state, and the 1% it serves.

America The Fallen: 24 Signs That Our Once Proud Cities Are Turning Into Poverty-Stricken Hellholes | Zero Hedge

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Economic inequality will destroy US democracy

how do you correct this? Oh, I get it, you tax the wealthy and give it to the poor and expect that will incentivise both when obviously it will do the exact opposite!!

See why we are positive a liberal will be slow?

 

[georgephillip]

Economic inequality will destroy US democracy

how do you correct this? Oh, I get it, you tax the wealthy and give it to the poor and expect that will incentivise both when obviously it will do the exact opposite!!

See why we are positive a liberal will be slow?

You tax the corporations that have been the principal instruments in wealth creation for the last 150 years and give the rich individual food stamps:

"Back in 2007, the number of New York City residents on food stamps was about 1 million. It is now being projected that the number of New York City residents on food stamps will pass the 2 million mark this summer."

Won't Bloomberg look silly pushing a shopping cart?

America The Fallen: 24 Signs That Our Once Proud Cities Are Turning Into Poverty-Stricken Hellholes | Zero Hedge

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

You tax the corporations that have been the principal instruments in wealth creation for the last 150 years

Dear, our corporations already face the highest corporate tax in the world and are moving off shore as a result. You think taxing them and venture capital firms for example so they will have less venture capital for the next Apple, Google Intel Amazon and Facebook is a good thing??

Now you must see why we are 100% positive a liberal will be slow?

 

[georgephillip]

You tax the corporations that have been the principal instruments in wealth creation for the last 150 years

Dear, our corporations already face the highest corporate tax in the world and moving off shore as a result. You think taxing them and venture capital firms for example so they will have less venture capital for the next Apple, Google Intel Amazon and Facebook is a good thing??

Now you must see why we are 100% positive a liberal will be slow?

What percentage of our corporations actually pay that "highest tax rate in the world"?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

You tax the corporations that have been the principal instruments in wealth creation for the last 150 years

Dear, our corporations already face the highest corporate tax in the world and moving off shore as a result. You think taxing them and venture capital firms for example so they will have less venture capital for the next Apple, Google Intel Amazon and Facebook is a good thing??

Now you must see why we are 100% positive a liberal will be slow?

What percentage of our corporations actually pay that "highest tax rate in the world"?

too stupid!! few of them do but they have to move off-shore to avoid the tax and do many many other things to avoid showing income or creating jobs in this country!!

You must be the only person on earth not to know that!!

 

[georgephillip]

Dear, our corporations already face the highest corporate tax in the world and moving off shore as a result. You think taxing them and venture capital firms for example so they will have less venture capital for the next Apple, Google Intel Amazon and Facebook is a good thing??

Now you must see why we are 100% positive a liberal will be slow?

What percentage of our corporations actually pay that "highest tax rate in the world"?

too stupid!! few of them do but they have to move off-shore to avoid the tax and do many many other things to avoid showing income in this country!!

You must be the only person on earth not to know that!!

Are you saying US corporations have an entitlement to dodge taxes?
Why would they want to "avoid showing income in this country" when it is this country that has chartered them into existence and guarantees their security around the globe?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Are you saying US corporations have an entitlement to dodge taxes?

too stupid and liberal!!! they take all possible deductions as we all do and as lawmakers intended we would when they created the deductions!!

Why would they want to "avoid showing income in this country" when it is this country that has chartered them into existence and guarantees their security around the globe?

too stupid and 100% liberal!! They avoid showing income with deductions as we all do and as lawmakers intended.

Also, we have the corporate tax only because liberals are far too stupid to know that the tax is passed on to us as consumers exactly the way any cost is.

The Marxist fantasy of punishing corporations with taxes is 100% based on pure liberal stupidity.

 

[Dugdale_Jukes]

The 25th sign...

http://www.usmessageboard.com/gener...n-the-plutocracy-post7152327.html#post7152327

have you decided if you are liberal or conservative yet and why?????

As noted in another thread my politics are REAL fiscal conservative and REAL social liberal. Low engagement with government, fair taxes, citizens rights are protected, minimal services expected, max individual rights. Which is not the same thing as the anti-abortion, anti-regulation dipshits calling themselves libertarian today.

That means there is no place in either party for people like me, people who are not ever going to settle or vote for either gaggle of corporatist shills and who by the way have little use for Halfwit America, the new American settlers living on both sides of today's great divide.

You can get up now, Edmund.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

As noted in another thread my politics are REAL fiscal conservative and REAL social liberal. Low engagement with government, fair taxes, citizens rights are protected, minimal services expected, max individual rights.

fiscal conservative is good!! but social liberal means low IQ

Which is not the same thing as the anti-abortion, anti-regulation dipshits calling themselves libertarian today.

dear, most libertarians are ok with abortion and not ok with regulations. It seems like this is all over your head

That means there is no place in either party for people like me,

yes but if you developed the IQ to be a social conservative and learn what libertarian is you would have a place. Did it ever occur to you that trying might help???

people who are not ever going to settle or vote for either gaggle of corporatist shills

dear, of course Republicans are not corporatist shills in that they want limited power in DC so Washington can't grant favors to corporations, while liberals want Obamacare fascism and conservatives are content to see capitalism bankrupt 10,000 corporations every month!!

Isn't thinking fun???

and who by the way have little use for Halfwit America, the new American settlers living on both sides of today's great divide.

You can get up now, Edmund.

more perfect gibberish ranting from someone who is too angry to think for himself.

 

[georgephillip]

Dear, our corporations already face the highest corporate tax in the world and moving off shore as a result. You think taxing them and venture capital firms for example so they will have less venture capital for the next Apple, Google Intel Amazon and Facebook is a good thing??

Now you must see why we are 100% positive a liberal will be slow?

What percentage of our corporations actually pay that "highest tax rate in the world"?

too stupid!! few of them do but they have to move off-shore to avoid the tax and do many many other things to avoid showing income or creating jobs in this country!!

You must be the only person on earth not to know that!!

Wouldn't you agree that only devout fascists would encourage US corporations to avoid showing income and creating jobs in America? (Or was Jefferson wrong about Corporate tyranny)?

 

[georgephillip]

Are you saying US corporations have an entitlement to dodge taxes?

too stupid and liberal!!! they take all possible deductions as we all do and as lawmakers intended we would when they created the deductions!!

Why would they want to "avoid showing income in this country" when it is this country that has chartered them into existence and guarantees their security around the globe?

too stupid and 100% liberal!! They avoid showing income with deductions as we all do and as lawmakers intended.

Also, we have the corporate tax only because liberals are far too stupid to know that the tax is passed on to us as consumers exactly the way any cost is.

The Marxist fantasy of punishing corporations with taxes is 100% based on pure liberal stupidity.

Yet unlike authentic citizens of this republic, US corporations are entirely created by the courts.
Therefore, corporations should be taxed at an even higher rate than the human beings who created corporate person-hood. Perhaps, corporations could repay their debt to America by funding the entire US judicial system for the next two generations??

 

[Meathead]

Big US cities are nice places to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there...or my son to go to their public schools.