An entire generation of college students have been taught to hate free speech....

[LordBrownTrout]

I love how you just ignore the entire post and go with "Good thing the world is the way I want it to be". Talking to you is so often like trying to reason with someone on drugs, do you know that?

This website actually is a platform. It has very general and basic rules, but within those rules, anyone can join and say whatever they want. USMB isn't going to censor or ban you just because they don't like your political viewpoint.

FB, Twitter, and Google are rapidly exiting that definition and leaving it far, far behind. When you decide exactly what can be said and who can say it, you're a publisher, and you become responsible for the speech that you have allowed, because you allowed it very specifically.

Every platform decide what can be said and who can say it, the big three are no different. My entire family is hard core conservatives, they are Trump followers and yet they have never had an issue with FB, they post pro-Trump, conservative, right wing shit every single day and have never once had a post removed by FB.

Thats anecdotal. Thousands have had their posts removed because of their politics.

and millions more have not. Those thousands violated the terms of service.

Some maybe. FB is a liberal site.

 

[Ambivalent1]

 

[ptbw forever]

I love how you just ignore the entire post and go with "Good thing the world is the way I want it to be". Talking to you is so often like trying to reason with someone on drugs, do you know that?

This website actually is a platform. It has very general and basic rules, but within those rules, anyone can join and say whatever they want. USMB isn't going to censor or ban you just because they don't like your political viewpoint.

FB, Twitter, and Google are rapidly exiting that definition and leaving it far, far behind. When you decide exactly what can be said and who can say it, you're a publisher, and you become responsible for the speech that you have allowed, because you allowed it very specifically.

Every platform decide what can be said and who can say it, the big three are no different. My entire family is hard core conservatives, they are Trump followers and yet they have never had an issue with FB, they post pro-Trump, conservative, right wing shit every single day and have never once had a post removed by FB.

Because you and your family are nobodies.

The right wing people who actually have followings are falsely accused of violating terms of service regularly.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Let me type slowly.

I never mentioned the First Amendment.

I was speaking of free speech.

Once again, free speech pertains to the government and its citizens and what the government cannot do.

Outside of the relationship there is no right to free speech, every private entity has the right to limit what you say on their property, be it physical or virtual.

No it doesn’t. Free speech is something the government is forbidden to interfere with. But it’s not a gift of the government.

you are correct, it is not. But when you are on the private property of another entity it is their gift to you, they have every right to restrict what you say or ask you to leave.

 

[Uncensored2008]

They banned Franklin Grahman for 24 hours. Called it hate speech!

Who is they and did he break any rules on the privately owned platform?

Now the Socialists love them some monopolies. Who knew?

Socialism is entirely about monopolies. The states decides the winners and losers in every endeavor.

 

[Uncensored2008]

When I was in law school the Constitutional law professor was in favor of banning so-called "hate speech."

That's appalling.

How did he propose getting around the 1st?

Let me guess, judicial fiat?

Had Hillary succeeded in stealing the 2016 election, the Bill of Rights would be no more.

 

[DOTR]

Let me type slowly.

I never mentioned the First Amendment.

I was speaking of free speech.

Once again, free speech pertains to the government and its citizens and what the government cannot do.

Outside of the relationship there is no right to free speech, every private entity has the right to limit what you say on their property, be it physical or virtual.

No it doesn’t. Free speech is something the government is forbidden to interfere with. But it’s not a gift of the government.

you are correct, it is not. But when you are on the private property of another entity it is their gift to you, they have every right to restrict what you say or ask you to leave.

Rights are not a suicide pact. This is why libertarianism has remained a fringe movement. And nonsensical. I don’t want googles fiber optics running under my front yard. I’ll ask them to leave.
The fact is Google needs to be broken up or regulated. You can’t argue law because the laws are there already in PUC’s. You can’t argue precedent because the US has a history of monopoly busting and public service requirements.
You can say “should “ all you like and gaslight us into serfdom of the liberal corporate machine.
But the people trump them...and Trump them. It’s in the public interest to take down the ruling elite of which Google is s major component.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

They banned Franklin Grahman for 24 hours. Called it hate speech!

Who is they and did he break any rules on the privately owned platform?

Now the Socialists love them some monopolies. Who knew?

Socialism is entirely about monopolies. The states decides the winners and losers in every endeavor.

The only monopoly in socialism is the state, they control everything.

It should be pointed out that it is the right what is wanting the government to get involved, they are wanting the government to punish companies for their success.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Let me type slowly.

I never mentioned the First Amendment.

I was speaking of free speech.

Once again, free speech pertains to the government and its citizens and what the government cannot do.

Outside of the relationship there is no right to free speech, every private entity has the right to limit what you say on their property, be it physical or virtual.

No it doesn’t. Free speech is something the government is forbidden to interfere with. But it’s not a gift of the government.

you are correct, it is not. But when you are on the private property of another entity it is their gift to you, they have every right to restrict what you say or ask you to leave.

Rights are not a suicide pact. This is why libertarianism has remained a fringe movement.

non sequitur much?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

They banned Franklin Grahman for 24 hours. Called it hate speech!

Who is they and did he break any rules on the privately owned platform?

Now the Socialists love them some monopolies. Who knew?

Socialism is entirely about monopolies. The states decides the winners and losers in every endeavor.

The only monopoly in socialism is the state, they control everything.

It should be pointed out that it is the right what is wanting the government to get involved, they are wanting the government to punish companies for their success.

It should be pointed out that the left and right scream to govt to fix stuff.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Partisanshitheadism is why we stay stuck in dysfunctionalism, but no, they have been enslaved to debt for the urges and benefit of capitalism.

Comrade, as a Communists you have scant understanding of basic terms and concepts, hence you have no grasp of what capitalism is or how a market works.

Enslavement to encumbering debt retards market viability and is detrimental to trade.

If you wish to know who it is that seeks a collectivist society where the potential bourgeoisie are crippled under debt, perhaps you should examine the utter shit that is being taught in exchange for the debt?

A vibrant middle class is the heart of a capitalist system. Socialism hates the middle, the bourgeoisie. Now who would seek to destroy the middle through crippling debt, Comrade?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

They banned Franklin Grahman for 24 hours. Called it hate speech!

Who is they and did he break any rules on the privately owned platform?

Now the Socialists love them some monopolies. Who knew?

Socialism is entirely about monopolies. The states decides the winners and losers in every endeavor.

The only monopoly in socialism is the state, they control everything.

It should be pointed out that it is the right what is wanting the government to get involved, they are wanting the government to punish companies for their success.

It should be pointed out that the left and right scream to govt to fix stuff.

Yes, that is very true. The biggest difference is the left is proud of doing so and the folks on the right like to pretend they do not do it.

 

[DOTR]

Let me type slowly.

I never mentioned the First Amendment.

I was speaking of free speech.

Once again, free speech pertains to the government and its citizens and what the government cannot do.

Outside of the relationship there is no right to free speech, every private entity has the right to limit what you say on their property, be it physical or virtual.

No it doesn’t. Free speech is something the government is forbidden to interfere with. But it’s not a gift of the government.

you are correct, it is not. But when you are on the private property of another entity it is their gift to you, they have every right to restrict what you say or ask you to leave.

Rights are not a suicide pact. This is why libertarianism has remained a fringe movement.

non sequitur much?

Pedantic rant much? You people are just plain strange.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Once again, free speech pertains to the government and its citizens and what the government cannot do.

Outside of the relationship there is no right to free speech, every private entity has the right to limit what you say on their property, be it physical or virtual.

No it doesn’t. Free speech is something the government is forbidden to interfere with. But it’s not a gift of the government.

you are correct, it is not. But when you are on the private property of another entity it is their gift to you, they have every right to restrict what you say or ask you to leave.

Rights are not a suicide pact. This is why libertarianism has remained a fringe movement.

non sequitur much?

Pedantic rant much? You people are just plain strange.

You make a post that has nothing to do with a single thing I said and I am the strange one?

Well, if you say so.

 

[DOTR]

They banned Franklin Grahman for 24 hours. Called it hate speech!

Who is they and did he break any rules on the privately owned platform?

Now the Socialists love them some monopolies. Who knew?

Socialism is entirely about monopolies. The states decides the winners and losers in every endeavor.

The only monopoly in socialism is the state, they control everything.

It should be pointed out that it is the right what is wanting the government to get involved, they are wanting the government to punish companies for their success.

Another silly libertarian idea. States aren’t socialism. Socialism is the belief that wealth should be redistributed.
Monopolies arent socialism either.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

They banned Franklin Grahman for 24 hours. Called it hate speech!

Who is they and did he break any rules on the privately owned platform?

Now the Socialists love them some monopolies. Who knew?

Socialism is entirely about monopolies. The states decides the winners and losers in every endeavor.

The only monopoly in socialism is the state, they control everything.

It should be pointed out that it is the right what is wanting the government to get involved, they are wanting the government to punish companies for their success.

Another silly libertarian idea. States aren’t socialism. Socialism is the belief that wealth should be redistributed.
Monopolies arent socialism either.

Socialism: a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

In true socialism there is no wealth to be redistributed.

But you were correct, Monopolies aren't socialism. So you got your post half right.

 

[DOTR]

They banned Franklin Grahman for 24 hours. Called it hate speech!

Who is they and did he break any rules on the privately owned platform?

Now the Socialists love them some monopolies. Who knew?

Socialism is entirely about monopolies. The states decides the winners and losers in every endeavor.

The only monopoly in socialism is the state, they control everything.

It should be pointed out that it is the right what is wanting the government to get involved, they are wanting the government to punish companies for their success.

You are part of the poison. Has nothing to do with punishment.
Somebody could say “google shouldn’t push liberalism” and you would scream “the state can’t control google”.
It’s a childish and damaging monomaniacal and cult like view.

Let’s hear you scream “google shouldn’t control the state” instead.

 

[DOTR]

Who is they and did he break any rules on the privately owned platform?

Now the Socialists love them some monopolies. Who knew?

Socialism is entirely about monopolies. The states decides the winners and losers in every endeavor.

The only monopoly in socialism is the state, they control everything.

It should be pointed out that it is the right what is wanting the government to get involved, they are wanting the government to punish companies for their success.

Another silly libertarian idea. States aren’t socialism. Socialism is the belief that wealth should be redistributed.
Monopolies arent socialism either.

Socialism: a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

In true socialism there is no wealth to be redistributed.

But you were correct, Monopolies aren't socialism. So you got your post half right.

Ah the “true socialism “. Just hasn’t been tried right?

 

[DOTR]

Our problems aren’t political. As can be seen by the above.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Now the Socialists love them some monopolies. Who knew?

Socialism is entirely about monopolies. The states decides the winners and losers in every endeavor.

The only monopoly in socialism is the state, they control everything.

It should be pointed out that it is the right what is wanting the government to get involved, they are wanting the government to punish companies for their success.

Another silly libertarian idea. States aren’t socialism. Socialism is the belief that wealth should be redistributed.
Monopolies arent socialism either.

Socialism: a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

In true socialism there is no wealth to be redistributed.

But you were correct, Monopolies aren't socialism. So you got your post half right.

Ah the “true socialism “. Just hasn’t been tried right?

It has been tried but it always fails due to human nature.

Humans are greedy and lazy by nature. This is why socialism cannot ever work.

Some places have a mix of socialism and capitalism that is working (Norway comes to mind and China come to mind). I do not wish our country to become either of those