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Yep. They need no help looking stupid. Bad guys is putting it mildly.
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And once again...they fall for a hoax
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Informative....I never heard that before...Parler is owned and operated by the Chinese. So just be careful.I don't think someone shooting himself in the leg has anything one way or the other to do with this string ofYou would think you nuts would have figured it out after the first hoax that resulted in a militia member shooting himself in the leg.
hoaxes.
The right could send out false signals that Nazis or the Klan were coming to Delaware but they don't
play around like that.
They don’t?
Twitter says fake "Antifa" account was run by white supremacists
The social media company says the accounts were used by white supremacists to encourage violence.www.cbsnews.com
White supremacists pose as Antifa online, call for violence
A Twitter account that tweeted a call to violence and claimed to be representing the position of "Antifa" was in fact created by a known white supremacist group, Twitter said Monday. The company removed the account.www.cnn.com
The Twazis who control Twitter have very little in the way of credibility. It's why Parler is rising and Twitter is falling.
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Anything coming from Barr is tainted. Let’s see his evidence.Sure seems like inciting a riot to me. Except it didn't happen. So I dunno. Does the riot have to happen to arrest someone for trying?
Actually, I didn't see any reference to incite violence, just flag burning which is allowed under our freedom of speech laws. As reprehensible as it is, especially at a national cemetery. I am reminded somewhat of the those Westboro? Baptist Church people that used to protest when a fallen US member was laid to rest, which I thought was despicable but legal if they obeyed restrictions and limitations of the local LEs. That cemetary includes thousands who died to free the slaves, let them rest in peace. Burning the flag does not honor them, in fact they fought and died to keep this country united. And anyone who has a problem with that can go to hell.
To answer your question, I doubt that the riot has to happen to be an arrestable offense, the Supreme Court seems to be somewhat lenient on that in favor of our freedom of speech. But if you incite imminent and specific unlawful activity that is deemed to be likely to occur then your freedom of speech doesn't cover that. In this case the hoaxer didn't do anything illegal IMHO.
One more point: Antifa has a reputation for violence, and any reference to their possible appearance ought to be considered a realistic threat to the people and property wherever it is. This time people showed up to defend that sacred ground, and some would laugh at them for being fooled. Haha, very funny.
Except, how many places do they really appear in? Aand how many times have peop,e been hoaxed? The claim that Antifa was going to burn the burbs was found to have come from a white supremacist group posing as Antifa. Yet people in multiple cities around the country showed up armed.
According to this, there was no evidence of significant Antifa involvement in the recent protests and riots. Which is why I think Antifa is way overrated.
If there is this much fakery going around, what is the purpose or purposes behind it?
Attorney General Bill Barr had a press conference on Thursday where he said that he amplified a little of what we reported earlier in the day: that Antifa was in fact instigating and participating in the violent activity.
From looking at the activity on social media, the nature of the videos and who is posting about the actions, it’s fairly clear that the actions so far have been largely leftist driven by the Antifa-connected anarchist, socialists and Communists individuals and groups.
“We have evidence that Antifa and other similar extremist groups, as well as actors of a variety of different political persuasions, have been involved in instigating and participating in the violent activity,” Barr explained. So that doesn’t mean it’s only Antifa in all instances.
FBI Director Chris Wray followed up on Barr’s remarks by making clear that the FBI had a number of “ongoing investigations” of “violent anarchist extremists’ with Antifa-like views, but that people weren’t being investigated for political views but for their actions.
What does he know, right?
Lookup Luis Marquez. He’s a prominent Antifa militant in the Portland area who travels to other states. But the media will tell you there are no antifa in the occupation zone.” Luis Marquez is a multiple-times arrestee in the once-bucolic City of Roses. Now he’s working with Rose City Antifa and their plentiful allies to destroy it.
He was in Seattle and told a videographer with The Blaze that “the only time we are heard is when we burn sh*t down and if white America doesn’t want to get it right, then they are going to see more burning, more looting.”
Lookup Amelia Joan Shamrowicz, who allegedly committed arson, criminal mischief (destroying or damaging $1,000 or more in property), and rioting. When police interviewed Shamrowicz’s roommates, they “reported that Shamrowisc stated they started the fire using a Molotov cocktail, and she is part of Antifa. Shamrowisc was reported to be extremely excited about being labeled a terrorist and was very animated about her hopes that police officers would be killed and injured by the riots. She also stated that she would be going out on another mission and the goal would be to set another fire.”
Multnomah County, Ore., Deputy District Attorney Brad Kalbaugh filed the report on June 1, 2020, shortly after the first round of nationwide rioting following George Floyd’s death.
Then read this from Angela Stanton King, who is running for the House:
The Black community in MN is calling out white Antifa members for starting the riots and destroying their communities. I keep telling y’all these white liberals are not our friends.
So there is evidence that Antifa has been involved. How many of them do you think announce they are Antifa when they get arrested?? How many Antifa have been rioting, burning, and looting without being caught? Overrated? Okay, maybe. And maybe not. You don't think Antifa has been involved in the many instances of monuments being destroyed? You don't think any of them where involved in the burning of that church in DC, the one that's been there for 200 years?
As for the purpose? Easy, the purpose behind all this shit, hoax and non-hoax, is intimidation. Against anyone who opposes the prog/lib agenda. Same as Hitler's brown shirts did almost a century ago, not quite that violent though. Yet. Don't tell me they ain't that bad, do I have to wait for it to get that bad? Those guy that showed up at Gettysburg are not intimidated and they ain't waiting for things to worsen. I say good on 'em. You don't want that kind of trouble? Then tell the Antifa fuckwads to stay home.
And as a note, Antifa has never been shy about taking credit and identifying their acts.
What does Left wing have to do with bad policing?I'm still not sure there's "massive support" for the Left wing goons by the MSM or most of the posters here. I trust ya that there are some.We (or at least I) was not talking about the recent riots. I was talking about fisticuffs and skull cracking at protests where both sides came achin for a fight. That's what my remarks have been about.Since when were we talking about political rallies? What I was talking about, where they mix it up at protests like were in Charlottesville and at many alt-right rallies and left-wing rallies, it IS both parties cruisin' for a bruisin. That's all I have to say about it.No, no, no. You arent getting off that easy. You are acting like both parties do it. That is complete bullshit. You cannot name a single democrat rally or protest where mobs of republicans showed up and attacked them. Only democrats do that. Obama never had violent republicans show up to his rallies, nor Hillary, or Biden, or anyone else.Of course they exist. I've seen them fighting right wingers. They come ready to rumble. So do the right wingers, if the things people say on this board are true. Everyone comes with their banner and their shield, right?They are all over the country and they attack republicans every god damn chance they get. They come to our rallies and they come to our protests and they attack us. It has been happening for years and there are THOUSANDS of assaults racked up at this point. Do you have any idea how insulting it is to hear people like you suggest that it isnt a big deal?Link. Or admit you whore your rightwing masters.I don’t know who claimed that, but you have been misinformed.Maybe he is just a very clever troll....this part is sort of funny. They fell for the same hoax three years ago.
A Facebook page called Central PA Antifa quickly denounced the event as fake, likening it to a hoax in Gettysburg three years ago.In 2017, rumors of an antifa event at the national park prompted a large group of armed militia members to show up. They encountered no one from antifa, but one of the armed militia members accidentally shot himself in the leg with a revolver.
But wait... Antifa was not supposed to exist?
The media that you consistently whore to told me that.
Men don't whore Coyote. But both men and women can follow what is going on in the forum they moderate.
After Nadler Claims Antifa Doesn't Exist
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2020/06/26/after-nadler-claims-antifa-doesnt-exist-republicans-give-details-about-the-violent-group-n2571402 During a speech on the House floor Thursday afternoon, Democratic Congressman and House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler claimed...www.usmessageboard.com
Police Confirming: ANTIFA Does Not Exist! (Historians Report WWII An Actual 20th Century Event!)
So widely used is the ANTIFA Terrorist concept by the widely known, completed Disconnected, Trump Administration: That it even finds itself being used as some nature of threat on this very same message board of the Truth(?)! Actually it is probably more common on Facebook pages, and in Twitter...
The Greatest Trick The Right Has Pulled Is Convincing The World Antifa Exists
"The rumors followed what has become a nationwide pattern of unfounded speculation about roaming bands of “antifa” — short for antifascist — destroying towns under the pretext of Black Lives Matter protests. The whispers frequently center on “busloads” of outside infiltrators and often inspire...
The far left posters Lyistrata and Dragonlady at minimum believe (or believed) that Antifa does not exist. Perhaps you should convince them they exist, once all are convinced, perhaps then we can plan on how to eliminate the terrorists.
They are a small non organized group of radicals that you on the right have built up into something more. And you have people believing it so strongly they get swallowed by these hoaxes.
Hopefully they get arrested just as fast as the right wingers if they started it. But honestly, this talk about who is more to blame for the fights that break out at political protests--it reminds me of nothing so much as the poor elementary school principal standing there listening to two fourth graders both loudly howling "but HE started it." Suspend 'em both and listen to both kid's parents holler about it.
There are idiots on both sides, no question. But right now there is no moral equivalency. Cities like Minneapolis didn't get half a billion dollars of damage done by vast right wing gangs. Statues and monuments are not being torn down by vast right wing gangs.
The destruction happening is overwhelmingly coming from the far left. That is the simple truth. To imply otherwise is frankly ridiculous.
Fair enough. But I think a good point was made. I have not seen a single Conservative express any support for right wing goons. But I have seen massive support for Left wing goons expressed by the main stream media and many Left wingers on this board.
That tells a lot about where we are as a Country and where the Left is right now.
I've never heard or read anything from the MSM saying the riots were good, you should have some more. I've heard a lot of people on the MSM trying to explain, over the sound of the shouting, that there's a reason people are angry. Understanding it isn't condoning it, though.
I have been accused of being supportive of the goons who riot, loot and burn, throw bricks at cops, toss incendiaries, break windows. I don't support that at all. But it all gets so mixed up in people's heads, and if anyone tries to separate the valid message from the violence and destruction by a small number of them, they seem to get tossed into the "goon" pile. When I even attempt to talk about the valid message, it's immediately drowned out with whatabout Chicago's and those damned rioters, they pulled down a statue..... seems people don't want to listen, give it a fair hearing, anyway. Not everyone supporting BLM is an anarchist, and not everyone on the left is, either. It's pretty hard to get that message across to some.
Don't think the main stream media is all in on supporting and downplaying the destruction of the left wing goons? This idiot for MSNBC called it "mostly a peaceful protest" as Minneapolis burns to the ground behind him.
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MSNBC reporter downplays Minneapolis riots as fire rages behind him: 'Mostly a protest'
"Not, generally speaking, unruly."www.theblaze.com
MLK said any valid message is immediately undermined by violence. He was correct. If the Dims, left wingers, and media denounced the far left violence the message of injustice could be heard. But not only are lefties and the media not denouncing the violence, they lie and minimize it, or attempt to justify it. There are dozens of posts in this thread doing exactly that. "So it was only a Wendy's and a few dumpster fires."
I know you are not supporting the violence. I am not accusing you of anything. I am just trying to enlighten a bit.
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seems shes lying again,,,Informative....I never heard that before...Parler is owned and operated by the Chinese. So just be careful.I don't think someone shooting himself in the leg has anything one way or the other to do with this string ofYou would think you nuts would have figured it out after the first hoax that resulted in a militia member shooting himself in the leg.
hoaxes.
The right could send out false signals that Nazis or the Klan were coming to Delaware but they don't
play around like that.
They don’t?
Twitter says fake "Antifa" account was run by white supremacists
The social media company says the accounts were used by white supremacists to encourage violence.
White supremacists pose as Antifa online, call for violence
A Twitter account that tweeted a call to violence and claimed to be representing the position of "Antifa" was in fact created by a known white supremacist group, Twitter said Monday. The company removed the account.
The Twazis who control Twitter have very little in the way of credibility. It's why Parler is rising and Twitter is falling.
Norman
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Were you there? The reporters were.It wasn't a street festival 'vibe' it was a hostile takeover of part of a City.
Did you read the rest of my post?
Everyone was aware that the protesters had barricaded themselves in and that the police had backed out after days of battling the crowds. And how did we know that? The MSM.
It was a Marxist utopia, you should have been there.
What does Left wing have to do with bad policing?I'm still not sure there's "massive support" for the Left wing goons by the MSM or most of the posters here. I trust ya that there are some.We (or at least I) was not talking about the recent riots. I was talking about fisticuffs and skull cracking at protests where both sides came achin for a fight. That's what my remarks have been about.Since when were we talking about political rallies? What I was talking about, where they mix it up at protests like were in Charlottesville and at many alt-right rallies and left-wing rallies, it IS both parties cruisin' for a bruisin. That's all I have to say about it.No, no, no. You arent getting off that easy. You are acting like both parties do it. That is complete bullshit. You cannot name a single democrat rally or protest where mobs of republicans showed up and attacked them. Only democrats do that. Obama never had violent republicans show up to his rallies, nor Hillary, or Biden, or anyone else.Of course they exist. I've seen them fighting right wingers. They come ready to rumble. So do the right wingers, if the things people say on this board are true. Everyone comes with their banner and their shield, right?They are all over the country and they attack republicans every god damn chance they get. They come to our rallies and they come to our protests and they attack us. It has been happening for years and there are THOUSANDS of assaults racked up at this point. Do you have any idea how insulting it is to hear people like you suggest that it isnt a big deal?Link. Or admit you whore your rightwing masters.I don’t know who claimed that, but you have been misinformed.Maybe he is just a very clever troll....this part is sort of funny. They fell for the same hoax three years ago.
A Facebook page called Central PA Antifa quickly denounced the event as fake, likening it to a hoax in Gettysburg three years ago.In 2017, rumors of an antifa event at the national park prompted a large group of armed militia members to show up. They encountered no one from antifa, but one of the armed militia members accidentally shot himself in the leg with a revolver.
But wait... Antifa was not supposed to exist?
The media that you consistently whore to told me that.
Men don't whore Coyote. But both men and women can follow what is going on in the forum they moderate.
After Nadler Claims Antifa Doesn't Exist
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2020/06/26/after-nadler-claims-antifa-doesnt-exist-republicans-give-details-about-the-violent-group-n2571402 During a speech on the House floor Thursday afternoon, Democratic Congressman and House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler claimed...
Police Confirming: ANTIFA Does Not Exist! (Historians Report WWII An Actual 20th Century Event!)
So widely used is the ANTIFA Terrorist concept by the widely known, completed Disconnected, Trump Administration: That it even finds itself being used as some nature of threat on this very same message board of the Truth(?)! Actually it is probably more common on Facebook pages, and in Twitter...
The Greatest Trick The Right Has Pulled Is Convincing The World Antifa Exists
"The rumors followed what has become a nationwide pattern of unfounded speculation about roaming bands of “antifa” — short for antifascist — destroying towns under the pretext of Black Lives Matter protests. The whispers frequently center on “busloads” of outside infiltrators and often inspire...
The far left posters Lyistrata and Dragonlady at minimum believe (or believed) that Antifa does not exist. Perhaps you should convince them they exist, once all are convinced, perhaps then we can plan on how to eliminate the terrorists.
They are a small non organized group of radicals that you on the right have built up into something more. And you have people believing it so strongly they get swallowed by these hoaxes.
Hopefully they get arrested just as fast as the right wingers if they started it. But honestly, this talk about who is more to blame for the fights that break out at political protests--it reminds me of nothing so much as the poor elementary school principal standing there listening to two fourth graders both loudly howling "but HE started it." Suspend 'em both and listen to both kid's parents holler about it.
There are idiots on both sides, no question. But right now there is no moral equivalency. Cities like Minneapolis didn't get half a billion dollars of damage done by vast right wing gangs. Statues and monuments are not being torn down by vast right wing gangs.
The destruction happening is overwhelmingly coming from the far left. That is the simple truth. To imply otherwise is frankly ridiculous.
Fair enough. But I think a good point was made. I have not seen a single Conservative express any support for right wing goons. But I have seen massive support for Left wing goons expressed by the main stream media and many Left wingers on this board.
That tells a lot about where we are as a Country and where the Left is right now.
I've never heard or read anything from the MSM saying the riots were good, you should have some more. I've heard a lot of people on the MSM trying to explain, over the sound of the shouting, that there's a reason people are angry. Understanding it isn't condoning it, though.
I have been accused of being supportive of the goons who riot, loot and burn, throw bricks at cops, toss incendiaries, break windows. I don't support that at all. But it all gets so mixed up in people's heads, and if anyone tries to separate the valid message from the violence and destruction by a small number of them, they seem to get tossed into the "goon" pile. When I even attempt to talk about the valid message, it's immediately drowned out with whatabout Chicago's and those damned rioters, they pulled down a statue..... seems people don't want to listen, give it a fair hearing, anyway. Not everyone supporting BLM is an anarchist, and not everyone on the left is, either. It's pretty hard to get that message across to some.
Don't think the main stream media is all in on supporting and downplaying the destruction of the left wing goons? This idiot for MSNBC called it "mostly a peaceful protest" as Minneapolis burns to the ground behind him.
View attachment 359862
MSNBC reporter downplays Minneapolis riots as fire rages behind him: 'Mostly a protest'
"Not, generally speaking, unruly."
MLK said any valid message is immediately undermined by violence. He was correct. If the Dims, left wingers, and media denounced the far left violence the message of injustice could be heard. But not only are lefties and the media not denouncing the violence, they lie and minimize it, or attempt to justify it. There are dozens of posts in this thread doing exactly that. "So it was only a Wendy's and a few dumpster fires."
I know you are not supporting the violence. I am not accusing you of anything. I am just trying to enlighten a bit.
These events always seem to happen in Dim cities controlled by Dim mayors, Dim City Councils, and Dim police chiefs. Witness Minneapolis and Atlanta. You Dims have on one to blame but yourselves.
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That is odd. I have not seen “massive” support here or elsewhere for riots or Antifa’s thuggery. I see support for causes, but not for that behavior. In that sense it is no different than the right, here, supporting white identity and rights, but not supporting the violence of the extremists.We (or at least I) was not talking about the recent riots. I was talking about fisticuffs and skull cracking at protests where both sides came achin for a fight. That's what my remarks have been about.Since when were we talking about political rallies? What I was talking about, where they mix it up at protests like were in Charlottesville and at many alt-right rallies and left-wing rallies, it IS both parties cruisin' for a bruisin. That's all I have to say about it.No, no, no. You arent getting off that easy. You are acting like both parties do it. That is complete bullshit. You cannot name a single democrat rally or protest where mobs of republicans showed up and attacked them. Only democrats do that. Obama never had violent republicans show up to his rallies, nor Hillary, or Biden, or anyone else.Of course they exist. I've seen them fighting right wingers. They come ready to rumble. So do the right wingers, if the things people say on this board are true. Everyone comes with their banner and their shield, right?They are all over the country and they attack republicans every god damn chance they get. They come to our rallies and they come to our protests and they attack us. It has been happening for years and there are THOUSANDS of assaults racked up at this point. Do you have any idea how insulting it is to hear people like you suggest that it isnt a big deal?Link. Or admit you whore your rightwing masters.I don’t know who claimed that, but you have been misinformed.Maybe he is just a very clever troll....this part is sort of funny. They fell for the same hoax three years ago.
A Facebook page called Central PA Antifa quickly denounced the event as fake, likening it to a hoax in Gettysburg three years ago.In 2017, rumors of an antifa event at the national park prompted a large group of armed militia members to show up. They encountered no one from antifa, but one of the armed militia members accidentally shot himself in the leg with a revolver.
But wait... Antifa was not supposed to exist?
The media that you consistently whore to told me that.
Men don't whore Coyote. But both men and women can follow what is going on in the forum they moderate.
After Nadler Claims Antifa Doesn't Exist
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2020/06/26/after-nadler-claims-antifa-doesnt-exist-republicans-give-details-about-the-violent-group-n2571402 During a speech on the House floor Thursday afternoon, Democratic Congressman and House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler claimed...
Police Confirming: ANTIFA Does Not Exist! (Historians Report WWII An Actual 20th Century Event!)
So widely used is the ANTIFA Terrorist concept by the widely known, completed Disconnected, Trump Administration: That it even finds itself being used as some nature of threat on this very same message board of the Truth(?)! Actually it is probably more common on Facebook pages, and in Twitter...
The Greatest Trick The Right Has Pulled Is Convincing The World Antifa Exists
"The rumors followed what has become a nationwide pattern of unfounded speculation about roaming bands of “antifa” — short for antifascist — destroying towns under the pretext of Black Lives Matter protests. The whispers frequently center on “busloads” of outside infiltrators and often inspire...
The far left posters Lyistrata and Dragonlady at minimum believe (or believed) that Antifa does not exist. Perhaps you should convince them they exist, once all are convinced, perhaps then we can plan on how to eliminate the terrorists.
They are a small non organized group of radicals that you on the right have built up into something more. And you have people believing it so strongly they get swallowed by these hoaxes.
Hopefully they get arrested just as fast as the right wingers if they started it. But honestly, this talk about who is more to blame for the fights that break out at political protests--it reminds me of nothing so much as the poor elementary school principal standing there listening to two fourth graders both loudly howling "but HE started it." Suspend 'em both and listen to both kid's parents holler about it.
There are idiots on both sides, no question. But right now there is no moral equivalency. Cities like Minneapolis didn't get half a billion dollars of damage done by vast right wing gangs. Statues and monuments are not being torn down by vast right wing gangs.
The destruction happening is overwhelmingly coming from the far left. That is the simple truth. To imply otherwise is frankly ridiculous.
Fair enough. But I think a good point was made. I have not seen a single Conservative express any support for right wing goons. But I have seen massive support for Left wing goons expressed by the main stream media and many Left wingers on this board.
That tells a lot about where we are as a Country and where the Left is right now.
How do you know they were Marxists? Serious question, that never gets answered by ignorant right-wing dopes who do not know anything about Marxism.Were you there? The reporters were.It wasn't a street festival 'vibe' it was a hostile takeover of part of a City.
Did you read the rest of my post?
Everyone was aware that the protesters had barricaded themselves in and that the police had backed out after days of battling the crowds. And how did we know that? The MSM.
It was a Marxist utopia, you should have been there.
Norman
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That is odd. I have not seen “massive” support here or elsewhere for riots or Antifa’s thuggery. I see support for causes, but not for that behavior. In that sense it is no different than the right, here, supporting white identity and rights, but not supporting the violence of the extremists.We (or at least I) was not talking about the recent riots. I was talking about fisticuffs and skull cracking at protests where both sides came achin for a fight. That's what my remarks have been about.Since when were we talking about political rallies? What I was talking about, where they mix it up at protests like were in Charlottesville and at many alt-right rallies and left-wing rallies, it IS both parties cruisin' for a bruisin. That's all I have to say about it.No, no, no. You arent getting off that easy. You are acting like both parties do it. That is complete bullshit. You cannot name a single democrat rally or protest where mobs of republicans showed up and attacked them. Only democrats do that. Obama never had violent republicans show up to his rallies, nor Hillary, or Biden, or anyone else.Of course they exist. I've seen them fighting right wingers. They come ready to rumble. So do the right wingers, if the things people say on this board are true. Everyone comes with their banner and their shield, right?They are all over the country and they attack republicans every god damn chance they get. They come to our rallies and they come to our protests and they attack us. It has been happening for years and there are THOUSANDS of assaults racked up at this point. Do you have any idea how insulting it is to hear people like you suggest that it isnt a big deal?Link. Or admit you whore your rightwing masters.I don’t know who claimed that, but you have been misinformed.Maybe he is just a very clever troll....this part is sort of funny. They fell for the same hoax three years ago.
A Facebook page called Central PA Antifa quickly denounced the event as fake, likening it to a hoax in Gettysburg three years ago.In 2017, rumors of an antifa event at the national park prompted a large group of armed militia members to show up. They encountered no one from antifa, but one of the armed militia members accidentally shot himself in the leg with a revolver.
But wait... Antifa was not supposed to exist?
The media that you consistently whore to told me that.
Men don't whore Coyote. But both men and women can follow what is going on in the forum they moderate.
After Nadler Claims Antifa Doesn't Exist
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2020/06/26/after-nadler-claims-antifa-doesnt-exist-republicans-give-details-about-the-violent-group-n2571402 During a speech on the House floor Thursday afternoon, Democratic Congressman and House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler claimed...
Police Confirming: ANTIFA Does Not Exist! (Historians Report WWII An Actual 20th Century Event!)
So widely used is the ANTIFA Terrorist concept by the widely known, completed Disconnected, Trump Administration: That it even finds itself being used as some nature of threat on this very same message board of the Truth(?)! Actually it is probably more common on Facebook pages, and in Twitter...
The Greatest Trick The Right Has Pulled Is Convincing The World Antifa Exists
"The rumors followed what has become a nationwide pattern of unfounded speculation about roaming bands of “antifa” — short for antifascist — destroying towns under the pretext of Black Lives Matter protests. The whispers frequently center on “busloads” of outside infiltrators and often inspire...
The far left posters Lyistrata and Dragonlady at minimum believe (or believed) that Antifa does not exist. Perhaps you should convince them they exist, once all are convinced, perhaps then we can plan on how to eliminate the terrorists.
They are a small non organized group of radicals that you on the right have built up into something more. And you have people believing it so strongly they get swallowed by these hoaxes.
Hopefully they get arrested just as fast as the right wingers if they started it. But honestly, this talk about who is more to blame for the fights that break out at political protests--it reminds me of nothing so much as the poor elementary school principal standing there listening to two fourth graders both loudly howling "but HE started it." Suspend 'em both and listen to both kid's parents holler about it.
There are idiots on both sides, no question. But right now there is no moral equivalency. Cities like Minneapolis didn't get half a billion dollars of damage done by vast right wing gangs. Statues and monuments are not being torn down by vast right wing gangs.
The destruction happening is overwhelmingly coming from the far left. That is the simple truth. To imply otherwise is frankly ridiculous.
Fair enough. But I think a good point was made. I have not seen a single Conservative express any support for right wing goons. But I have seen massive support for Left wing goons expressed by the main stream media and many Left wingers on this board.
That tells a lot about where we are as a Country and where the Left is right now.
You certainly can't see much. It isn't the white supremacists rioting and destroying like some would like to claim.
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See how easy it is to box you in? You aren't interested in what you know nothing about, because you're ignorant as hell. Your argument is one of hate, and totally absent of any intelligent, informative substance. That's why you are pissed off and butt hurt. You can't debate real substance. You're a total joke and a loser. You know shit.So, you can't tell us then. And with these idiotic responses, we now know why.How? What proof do you have? And what proof do you have we are "commies?" Do you even know what the word means?Yet you idiots kiss Iran's and China's ass. Commie asswipes.If you support the traitor Trump who sold our soldiers out to the Taliban for money, you have no concept of what being American is, because you wouldn't be one yourself.The scam is the left portraying itself as American.No harm was done because only one side believed the scam. Again.At least this time, I hope they took walk around the battlefield and actually learned some history.
But what is worrisome is that anonymous people seem intent on creating and provoking potentially lethal confrontations among groups and exploiting if not widening divisions.
who are these people?
GETTYSBURG NATIONAL MILITARY PARK, PA. — For weeks, a mysterious figure on social media talked up plans for antifa protesters to converge on this historical site on Independence Day to burn American flags, an event that seemed at times to border on the farcical.
“Let’s get together and burn flags in protest of thugs and animals in blue,” the anonymous person behind a Facebook page called Left Behind USA wrote in mid-June. There would be antifa face paint, the person wrote, and organizers would “be giving away free small flags to children to safely throw into the fire.”
As word spread, self-proclaimed militias, bikers, skinheads and far-right groups from outside the state issued a call to action, pledging in online videos and posts to come to Gettysburg to protect the Civil War monuments and the nation’s flag from desecration. Some said they would bring firearms and use force if necessary.
On Saturday afternoon, in the hours before the flag burning was to start, they flooded in by the hundreds — heavily armed and unaware, it seemed, that the mysterious Internet poster was not who the person claimed to be.
The episode at Gettysburg is a stark illustration of how shadowy figures on social media have stoked fears about the protests against racial injustice and excessive police force that have swept across the nation since the death of George Floyd in police custody on May 25.
Armed vigilantes lined the streets of small Idaho towns last month after false claims circulated online about antifa, a loose collection of activists who oppose fascism and have sometimes embraced property damage and violent protest in recent years. Similar hoaxes have befallen towns in New Jersey, South Dakota and Michigan in recent weeks.
The difference is that no harm was done here, because the Right showed up and there was nothing going on, adn that was the end of it.
Compare that to the frauds from the left that gin up hate that eventually leads to violence. As intended.
YOu people are all marxist mass murdering want a be s.
Save your denial of the obvious, for you willfully blind fellow leftards.
Because I'm not interested in your silly troll boy games.
Got it in one. Commie bastard.
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How do you know they were Marxists? Serious question, that never gets answered by ignorant right-wing dopes who do not know anything about Marxism.Were you there? The reporters were.It wasn't a street festival 'vibe' it was a hostile takeover of part of a City.
Did you read the rest of my post?
Everyone was aware that the protesters had barricaded themselves in and that the police had backed out after days of battling the crowds. And how did we know that? The MSM.
It was a Marxist utopia, you should have been there.
You should have been there too. Together in the utopia of Chop.
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At least this time, I hope they took walk around the battlefield and actually learned some history.
But what is worrisome is that anonymous people seem intent on creating and provoking potentially lethal confrontations among groups and exploiting if not widening divisions.
who are these people?
GETTYSBURG NATIONAL MILITARY PARK, PA. — For weeks, a mysterious figure on social media talked up plans for antifa protesters to converge on this historical site on Independence Day to burn American flags, an event that seemed at times to border on the farcical.
“Let’s get together and burn flags in protest of thugs and animals in blue,” the anonymous person behind a Facebook page called Left Behind USA wrote in mid-June. There would be antifa face paint, the person wrote, and organizers would “be giving away free small flags to children to safely throw into the fire.”
As word spread, self-proclaimed militias, bikers, skinheads and far-right groups from outside the state issued a call to action, pledging in online videos and posts to come to Gettysburg to protect the Civil War monuments and the nation’s flag from desecration. Some said they would bring firearms and use force if necessary.
On Saturday afternoon, in the hours before the flag burning was to start, they flooded in by the hundreds — heavily armed and unaware, it seemed, that the mysterious Internet poster was not who the person claimed to be.
The episode at Gettysburg is a stark illustration of how shadowy figures on social media have stoked fears about the protests against racial injustice and excessive police force that have swept across the nation since the death of George Floyd in police custody on May 25.
Armed vigilantes lined the streets of small Idaho towns last month after false claims circulated online about antifa, a loose collection of activists who oppose fascism and have sometimes embraced property damage and violent protest in recent years. Similar hoaxes have befallen towns in New Jersey, South Dakota and Michigan in recent weeks.
Seems to me they should be looking for the instigator a little harder. But tell me, did these 'vigilantes' burn down a City? Did they burn cop cars? Did they loot? Did they desecrate the area? Of course they didn't but OH BOY would WaPo (and you) have loved to hang that one on Trump!!!
What does that have to do with the topic? How is Trump even part of this discussion?
Do you think hoaxes like these are good? I don’t...
See how easy it is to box you in? You aren't interested in what you know nothing about, because you're ignorant as hell. Your argument is one of hate, and totally absent of any intelligent, informative substance. That's why you are pissed off and butt hurt. You can't debate real substance. You're a total joke and a loser. You know shit.So, you can't tell us then. And with these idiotic responses, we now know why.How? What proof do you have? And what proof do you have we are "commies?" Do you even know what the word means?Yet you idiots kiss Iran's and China's ass. Commie asswipes.If you support the traitor Trump who sold our soldiers out to the Taliban for money, you have no concept of what being American is, because you wouldn't be one yourself.The scam is the left portraying itself as American.No harm was done because only one side believed the scam. Again.At least this time, I hope they took walk around the battlefield and actually learned some history.
But what is worrisome is that anonymous people seem intent on creating and provoking potentially lethal confrontations among groups and exploiting if not widening divisions.
who are these people?
GETTYSBURG NATIONAL MILITARY PARK, PA. — For weeks, a mysterious figure on social media talked up plans for antifa protesters to converge on this historical site on Independence Day to burn American flags, an event that seemed at times to border on the farcical.
“Let’s get together and burn flags in protest of thugs and animals in blue,” the anonymous person behind a Facebook page called Left Behind USA wrote in mid-June. There would be antifa face paint, the person wrote, and organizers would “be giving away free small flags to children to safely throw into the fire.”
As word spread, self-proclaimed militias, bikers, skinheads and far-right groups from outside the state issued a call to action, pledging in online videos and posts to come to Gettysburg to protect the Civil War monuments and the nation’s flag from desecration. Some said they would bring firearms and use force if necessary.
On Saturday afternoon, in the hours before the flag burning was to start, they flooded in by the hundreds — heavily armed and unaware, it seemed, that the mysterious Internet poster was not who the person claimed to be.
The episode at Gettysburg is a stark illustration of how shadowy figures on social media have stoked fears about the protests against racial injustice and excessive police force that have swept across the nation since the death of George Floyd in police custody on May 25.
Armed vigilantes lined the streets of small Idaho towns last month after false claims circulated online about antifa, a loose collection of activists who oppose fascism and have sometimes embraced property damage and violent protest in recent years. Similar hoaxes have befallen towns in New Jersey, South Dakota and Michigan in recent weeks.
The difference is that no harm was done here, because the Right showed up and there was nothing going on, adn that was the end of it.
Compare that to the frauds from the left that gin up hate that eventually leads to violence. As intended.
YOu people are all marxist mass murdering want a be s.
Save your denial of the obvious, for you willfully blind fellow leftards.
Because I'm not interested in your silly troll boy games.
Got it in one. Commie bastard.
Not boxed in. JUst not playing your silly troll games.
This thread is about a hoax that tricked some of "us". THey showed up, there was no flag burning and nothing happened.
You guys? YOu get tricked by a hoax, and you double down. Hell, You guys defended Jessie Smollet to the bitter end, and smeared white people/Trump supporters as a group with the most vicious lies, for weeks.
You guys are the haters.
That is odd. I have not seen “massive” support here or elsewhere for riots or Antifa’s thuggery. I see support for causes, but not for that behavior. In that sense it is no different than the right, here, supporting white identity and rights, but not supporting the violence of the extremists.We (or at least I) was not talking about the recent riots. I was talking about fisticuffs and skull cracking at protests where both sides came achin for a fight. That's what my remarks have been about.Since when were we talking about political rallies? What I was talking about, where they mix it up at protests like were in Charlottesville and at many alt-right rallies and left-wing rallies, it IS both parties cruisin' for a bruisin. That's all I have to say about it.No, no, no. You arent getting off that easy. You are acting like both parties do it. That is complete bullshit. You cannot name a single democrat rally or protest where mobs of republicans showed up and attacked them. Only democrats do that. Obama never had violent republicans show up to his rallies, nor Hillary, or Biden, or anyone else.Of course they exist. I've seen them fighting right wingers. They come ready to rumble. So do the right wingers, if the things people say on this board are true. Everyone comes with their banner and their shield, right?They are all over the country and they attack republicans every god damn chance they get. They come to our rallies and they come to our protests and they attack us. It has been happening for years and there are THOUSANDS of assaults racked up at this point. Do you have any idea how insulting it is to hear people like you suggest that it isnt a big deal?Link. Or admit you whore your rightwing masters.I don’t know who claimed that, but you have been misinformed.Maybe he is just a very clever troll....this part is sort of funny. They fell for the same hoax three years ago.
A Facebook page called Central PA Antifa quickly denounced the event as fake, likening it to a hoax in Gettysburg three years ago.In 2017, rumors of an antifa event at the national park prompted a large group of armed militia members to show up. They encountered no one from antifa, but one of the armed militia members accidentally shot himself in the leg with a revolver.
But wait... Antifa was not supposed to exist?
The media that you consistently whore to told me that.
Men don't whore Coyote. But both men and women can follow what is going on in the forum they moderate.
After Nadler Claims Antifa Doesn't Exist
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2020/06/26/after-nadler-claims-antifa-doesnt-exist-republicans-give-details-about-the-violent-group-n2571402 During a speech on the House floor Thursday afternoon, Democratic Congressman and House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler claimed...
Police Confirming: ANTIFA Does Not Exist! (Historians Report WWII An Actual 20th Century Event!)
So widely used is the ANTIFA Terrorist concept by the widely known, completed Disconnected, Trump Administration: That it even finds itself being used as some nature of threat on this very same message board of the Truth(?)! Actually it is probably more common on Facebook pages, and in Twitter...
The Greatest Trick The Right Has Pulled Is Convincing The World Antifa Exists
"The rumors followed what has become a nationwide pattern of unfounded speculation about roaming bands of “antifa” — short for antifascist — destroying towns under the pretext of Black Lives Matter protests. The whispers frequently center on “busloads” of outside infiltrators and often inspire...
The far left posters Lyistrata and Dragonlady at minimum believe (or believed) that Antifa does not exist. Perhaps you should convince them they exist, once all are convinced, perhaps then we can plan on how to eliminate the terrorists.
They are a small non organized group of radicals that you on the right have built up into something more. And you have people believing it so strongly they get swallowed by these hoaxes.
Hopefully they get arrested just as fast as the right wingers if they started it. But honestly, this talk about who is more to blame for the fights that break out at political protests--it reminds me of nothing so much as the poor elementary school principal standing there listening to two fourth graders both loudly howling "but HE started it." Suspend 'em both and listen to both kid's parents holler about it.
There are idiots on both sides, no question. But right now there is no moral equivalency. Cities like Minneapolis didn't get half a billion dollars of damage done by vast right wing gangs. Statues and monuments are not being torn down by vast right wing gangs.
The destruction happening is overwhelmingly coming from the far left. That is the simple truth. To imply otherwise is frankly ridiculous.
Fair enough. But I think a good point was made. I have not seen a single Conservative express any support for right wing goons. But I have seen massive support for Left wing goons expressed by the main stream media and many Left wingers on this board.
That tells a lot about where we are as a Country and where the Left is right now.
Ah......I provided a link showing an MSNBC reporter saying "mostly peaceful protests" as Minneapolis is burning to the ground behind him. The main stream media is absolutely covering for and rooting for the violent protesters while Dims say nothing and quietly encourage it.
In case you didn't see it earlier.
MSNBC reporter downplays Minneapolis riots as fire rages behind him: 'Mostly a protest'
"Not, generally speaking, unruly."
www.theblaze.com
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I got "had" yesterday--Informative....I never heard that before...Parler is owned and operated by the Chinese. So just be careful.I don't think someone shooting himself in the leg has anything one way or the other to do with this string ofYou would think you nuts would have figured it out after the first hoax that resulted in a militia member shooting himself in the leg.
hoaxes.
The right could send out false signals that Nazis or the Klan were coming to Delaware but they don't
play around like that.
They don’t?
Twitter says fake "Antifa" account was run by white supremacists
The social media company says the accounts were used by white supremacists to encourage violence.
White supremacists pose as Antifa online, call for violence
A Twitter account that tweeted a call to violence and claimed to be representing the position of "Antifa" was in fact created by a known white supremacist group, Twitter said Monday. The company removed the account.
The Twazis who control Twitter have very little in the way of credibility. It's why Parler is rising and Twitter is falling.
It's not. The software might be.
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Yesteday, I read that China 100% owned it, there was an article linked saying the same.
I am not finding it now, anywhere.
It's a couple guys in Nebraska, established two years ago. If anything, maybe the software, the platform, was designed by the Chinese. Or maybe it was a total fiction.
OldLady
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Sorry. Read on. Someone lied to me.seems shes lying again,,,Informative....I never heard that before...Parler is owned and operated by the Chinese. So just be careful.I don't think someone shooting himself in the leg has anything one way or the other to do with this string ofYou would think you nuts would have figured it out after the first hoax that resulted in a militia member shooting himself in the leg.
hoaxes.
The right could send out false signals that Nazis or the Klan were coming to Delaware but they don't
play around like that.
They don’t?
Twitter says fake "Antifa" account was run by white supremacists
The social media company says the accounts were used by white supremacists to encourage violence.
White supremacists pose as Antifa online, call for violence
A Twitter account that tweeted a call to violence and claimed to be representing the position of "Antifa" was in fact created by a known white supremacist group, Twitter said Monday. The company removed the account.
The Twazis who control Twitter have very little in the way of credibility. It's why Parler is rising and Twitter is falling.
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just more proof you will believe what anyone tells you without looking it up for yourself,,,it took me 30 secondsSorry. Read on. Someone lied to me.seems shes lying again,,,Informative....I never heard that before...Parler is owned and operated by the Chinese. So just be careful.I don't think someone shooting himself in the leg has anything one way or the other to do with this string ofYou would think you nuts would have figured it out after the first hoax that resulted in a militia member shooting himself in the leg.
hoaxes.
The right could send out false signals that Nazis or the Klan were coming to Delaware but they don't
play around like that.
They don’t?
Twitter says fake "Antifa" account was run by white supremacists
The social media company says the accounts were used by white supremacists to encourage violence.
White supremacists pose as Antifa online, call for violence
A Twitter account that tweeted a call to violence and claimed to be representing the position of "Antifa" was in fact created by a known white supremacist group, Twitter said Monday. The company removed the account.
The Twazis who control Twitter have very little in the way of credibility. It's why Parler is rising and Twitter is falling.
that means you are willfully ignorant as I said yesterday,,,
Sorry. Read on. Someone lied to me.seems shes lying again,,,Informative....I never heard that before...Parler is owned and operated by the Chinese. So just be careful.I don't think someone shooting himself in the leg has anything one way or the other to do with this string ofYou would think you nuts would have figured it out after the first hoax that resulted in a militia member shooting himself in the leg.
hoaxes.
The right could send out false signals that Nazis or the Klan were coming to Delaware but they don't
play around like that.
They don’t?
Twitter says fake "Antifa" account was run by white supremacists
The social media company says the accounts were used by white supremacists to encourage violence.
White supremacists pose as Antifa online, call for violence
A Twitter account that tweeted a call to violence and claimed to be representing the position of "Antifa" was in fact created by a known white supremacist group, Twitter said Monday. The company removed the account.
The Twazis who control Twitter have very little in the way of credibility. It's why Parler is rising and Twitter is falling.
Hey, I apologize. The media is not covering for the left wing goons. Sorry.
OldLady
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Thanks.just more proof you will believe what anyone tells you without looking it up for yourself,,,it took me 30 secondsSorry. Read on. Someone lied to me.seems shes lying again,,,Informative....I never heard that before...Parler is owned and operated by the Chinese. So just be careful.I don't think someone shooting himself in the leg has anything one way or the other to do with this string ofYou would think you nuts would have figured it out after the first hoax that resulted in a militia member shooting himself in the leg.
hoaxes.
The right could send out false signals that Nazis or the Klan were coming to Delaware but they don't
play around like that.
They don’t?
Twitter says fake "Antifa" account was run by white supremacists
The social media company says the accounts were used by white supremacists to encourage violence.
White supremacists pose as Antifa online, call for violence
A Twitter account that tweeted a call to violence and claimed to be representing the position of "Antifa" was in fact created by a known white supremacist group, Twitter said Monday. The company removed the account.
The Twazis who control Twitter have very little in the way of credibility. It's why Parler is rising and Twitter is falling.
that means you are willfully ignorant as I said yesterday,,,
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