Another absurd proposal from President Biden

They'll attempt to change anything and everything if it suits their goals and agenda. I've been alerting or alluding to this ever since I've come on this site. I've been absolutely right as proven many many times over the years, and I'll continue to be right because I have common sense and righteous understanding built into my DNA.

Biden is a dangerous man now, because he has the freedom all due to giving up, to now reek havoc like never seen before on this country. Stay tuned...

Not impeaching him, and not making him a certified lame duck president, could very well be yet another mistake made by the Republicans. Republicans have got to stop being weak in the knees.

People like Cruz and other's are fighting for this country like no other in those judiciary hearings to stop the select Biden nominees from being seated, and it's a shame that they've been put into that situation by a deunified party that should be supporting the efforts of Cruz and others without waver.
But after slicing out the portions on the Justice Department, Smith chose to keep the rest of the indictment largely intact—with some adjustments around the edges. Apart from the Court’s assertion that Trump’s interactions with the Justice Department were absolutely immune, the ruling doesn’t reach firm conclusions on how to understand his immunity for other conduct, instead remanding the matter to the district court. So Smith is here making an argument for a broad range of prosecutable conduct, albeit within the boundaries set around him by the Court. Put in more tactical terms, he is betting that he can persuade Judge Chutkan—and eventually at least two of the justices who signed on to the majority opinion—to let him proceed with the rest of the indictment with modest adjustments to emphasize the nonofficial and public nature of the conduct in question.

Consider, for example, Trump’s efforts to bully state officials into overturning the election—like his famous phone call to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger demanding that Raffensperger “find 11,780 votes,” or his berating of Arizona Speaker of the House Rusty Bowers to hold a hearing over false claims of election fraud. During oral argument, Trump’s counsel John Sauer suggested that such conversations constituted official acts for which Trump should be immune. Despite several justices’ skepticism toward Sauer’s expansive position, the majority opinion seems open to this view, suggesting that “the President may speak on and discuss such matters with state officials … to encourage them to act in a manner that promotes the President’s view of the public good.” But the Court ultimately doesn’t resolve the question of whether this is immune official conduct one way or another.

Smith could have backed down and edited this material out of the indictment as well, but he chose not to. By leaving it in, largely unchanged, he’s asserting that such actions are unofficial and therefore open to prosecution. It is possible that Smith is planning to make a different argument here that the Supreme Court decision would also invite—that these acts are only presumptively immune and that he can rebut that presumption—but the specific tweaks to the allegation suggest he is planning the former approach.

www.lawfaremedia.org

The Superseding Trump Indictment Charts Jack Smith’s Path Forward

Smith has reworked the Jan. 6 case against Trump in light of the Supreme Court’s decision on presidential immunity.
www.lawfaremedia.org
www.lawfaremedia.org

Basically, the Court left enough ambiguity in its ruling to allow Chutkin to make some determinations on her own. Which leaves an opening for trump to appeal a guilty verdict based on faith his Court will once again come to his aid by ruling whatever determinations she makes as to immunity were not broad enough.
 
The president has always had immunity for official acts committed while President. Twisted terrorist democrats are pretending this is brand new.

No he has not. But in 270 years, no President was a career criminal out to line his own pockets before Donald Trump.

This is brand new because what SC has said that nothing a President does in connection with an "official act" can be charged. So Trump can sell pardons, or ambassadorships for pocket money. Because both are officials acts, although exchanging either for money used to be illegal.

And their less publicized ruling that elected officials can accept "tips" from municipal contractors they award contracts to, legalizes bribery by elected officials. This Court is using the Constitution for toilet paper.
 
This is just not true. The president can indeed be held accountable for any of his actions that fall outside his/her official duties and responsibilities while in office or after he/she has left office. Every decision or action the sitting president does/makes must be grounded in law, and it is up to the Congress to make the determination and the courts to decide if illegal action has occurred. If serious enough, that is what the impeachment process is for.

Not with the this SC ruling he can't. And under this ruling, he can use the DOJ to prosecute his "enemies".
 
The SC issued an ex post facto decision, so a Constitutional Amendment is now REQUIRED, to ensure that no President is above the law.

Even Republicans are terrified of an unfettered President with no accountability to the rule of law.
/----/ Since George Washington, this was never a problem, never a concern, never even mentioned, until Dementia Joe made it one. Now you clowns forced the USSC to make a ruling. Now, deal with the consequences. It's all on Joe.
 
No he has not. But in 270 years, no President was a career criminal out to line his own pockets before Donald Trump.

This is brand new because what SC has said that nothing a President does in connection with an "official act" can be charged. So Trump can sell pardons, or ambassadorships for pocket money. Because both are officials acts, although exchanging either for money used to be illegal.

And their less publicized ruling that elected officials can accept "tips" from municipal contractors they award contracts to, legalizes bribery by elected officials. This Court is using the Constitution for toilet paper.
/----/ "no President was a career criminal out to line his own pockets before Donald Trump."
Your blatant lies are unbelievable. Have you no shame? (dumb question, I know)
Trump lost money as president. The Biden family has made millions trading on Dementia Joe's office.
 
/----/ Since George Washington, this was never a problem, never a concern, never even mentioned, until Dementia Joe made it one. Now you clowns forced the USSC to make a ruling. Now, deal with the consequences. It's all on Joe.
I mean, there was the whole Nixon thing.

The idea that we want to insulate presidents from legal consequences of their actions was never mentioned until the cult of Trump made it an issue.
 
But after slicing out the portions on the Justice Department, Smith chose to keep the rest of the indictment largely intact—with some adjustments around the edges. Apart from the Court’s assertion that Trump’s interactions with the Justice Department were absolutely immune, the ruling doesn’t reach firm conclusions on how to understand his immunity for other conduct, instead remanding the matter to the district court. So Smith is here making an argument for a broad range of prosecutable conduct, albeit within the boundaries set around him by the Court. Put in more tactical terms, he is betting that he can persuade Judge Chutkan—and eventually at least two of the justices who signed on to the majority opinion—to let him proceed with the rest of the indictment with modest adjustments to emphasize the nonofficial and public nature of the conduct in question.

Consider, for example, Trump’s efforts to bully state officials into overturning the election—like his famous phone call to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger demanding that Raffensperger “find 11,780 votes,” or his berating of Arizona Speaker of the House Rusty Bowers to hold a hearing over false claims of election fraud. During oral argument, Trump’s counsel John Sauer suggested that such conversations constituted official acts for which Trump should be immune. Despite several justices’ skepticism toward Sauer’s expansive position, the majority opinion seems open to this view, suggesting that “the President may speak on and discuss such matters with state officials … to encourage them to act in a manner that promotes the President’s view of the public good.” But the Court ultimately doesn’t resolve the question of whether this is immune official conduct one way or another.

Smith could have backed down and edited this material out of the indictment as well, but he chose not to. By leaving it in, largely unchanged, he’s asserting that such actions are unofficial and therefore open to prosecution. It is possible that Smith is planning to make a different argument here that the Supreme Court decision would also invite—that these acts are only presumptively immune and that he can rebut that presumption—but the specific tweaks to the allegation suggest he is planning the former approach.

www.lawfaremedia.org

The Superseding Trump Indictment Charts Jack Smith’s Path Forward

Smith has reworked the Jan. 6 case against Trump in light of the Supreme Court’s decision on presidential immunity.
www.lawfaremedia.org
www.lawfaremedia.org

Basically, the Court left enough ambiguity in its ruling to allow Chutkin to make some determinations on her own. Which leaves an opening for trump to appeal a guilty verdict based on faith his Court will once again come to his aid by ruling whatever determinations she makes as to immunity were not broad enough.
Can't do it one way so keep fishing eh ? What, maybe go after anything and everything regardless of the statutes of limitations being way past. Oh that's right they only let the limitations expire when it came to Hunter Biden, then it's uuuh uhhhh heck no Hunter's off limits on that case now. But Trump must endure prosecution attempt after prosecution attempt, and it's because Biden said it's time for him to be put into the crosshairs, and then after the attempt on his life (hopefully not related), you all still can't stop trying to get the man on anything possible for political purposes.
 
You think that it's cool for the country to be terrified at a rogue president that has nothing to lose except for the rest of what's left of his tattered mind ? What does this way of desperate outburst and thinking say about you Satan's dragon queen ?
Wow … just wow.

Get those meds adjusted
 
I mean, there was the whole Nixon thing.

The idea that we want to insulate presidents from legal consequences of their actions was never mentioned until the cult of Trump made it an issue.
What about the Nixon thing ? He was dealt with over acts he committed during his presidential duties. He wasn't immune. Simple stuff really.
 
What about the Nixon thing ? He was dealt with over acts he committed during his presidential duties. He was immune. Simple stuff really.
No one thought he was immune at the time, hence the pardon. Do we really want to say that there shouldn’t be any repercussions for the kind of bullshit Nixon tried to pull?

I don’t. That’s stupid.
 
No one thought he was immune at the time, hence the pardon. Do we really want to say that there shouldn’t be any repercussions for the kind of bullshit Nixon tried to pull?

I don’t. That’s stupid.
He was immune at the time. The acts were committed during his official duties as president.
 
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But after slicing out the portions on the Justice Department, Smith chose to keep the rest of the indictment largely intact—with some adjustments around the edges. Apart from the Court’s assertion that Trump’s interactions with the Justice Department were absolutely immune, the ruling doesn’t reach firm conclusions on how to understand his immunity for other conduct, instead remanding the matter to the district court. So Smith is here making an argument for a broad range of prosecutable conduct, albeit within the boundaries set around him by the Court. Put in more tactical terms, he is betting that he can persuade Judge Chutkan—and eventually at least two of the justices who signed on to the majority opinion—to let him proceed with the rest of the indictment with modest adjustments to emphasize the nonofficial and public nature of the conduct in question.

Consider, for example, Trump’s efforts to bully state officials into overturning the election—like his famous phone call to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger demanding that Raffensperger “find 11,780 votes,” or his berating of Arizona Speaker of the House Rusty Bowers to hold a hearing over false claims of election fraud. During oral argument, Trump’s counsel John Sauer suggested that such conversations constituted official acts for which Trump should be immune. Despite several justices’ skepticism toward Sauer’s expansive position, the majority opinion seems open to this view, suggesting that “the President may speak on and discuss such matters with state officials … to encourage them to act in a manner that promotes the President’s view of the public good.” But the Court ultimately doesn’t resolve the question of whether this is immune official conduct one way or another.

Smith could have backed down and edited this material out of the indictment as well, but he chose not to. By leaving it in, largely unchanged, he’s asserting that such actions are unofficial and therefore open to prosecution. It is possible that Smith is planning to make a different argument here that the Supreme Court decision would also invite—that these acts are only presumptively immune and that he can rebut that presumption—but the specific tweaks to the allegation suggest he is planning the former approach.

www.lawfaremedia.org

The Superseding Trump Indictment Charts Jack Smith’s Path Forward

Smith has reworked the Jan. 6 case against Trump in light of the Supreme Court’s decision on presidential immunity.
www.lawfaremedia.org
www.lawfaremedia.org

Basically, the Court left enough ambiguity in its ruling to allow Chutkin to make some determinations on her own. Which leaves an opening for trump to appeal a guilty verdict based on faith his Court will once again come to his aid by ruling whatever determinations she makes as to immunity were not broad enough.
Efforts to win re-election are not official acts even if (and especially if) they involve DOJ. Officials
 
He wasn't immune at the time. The acts were committed during his official duties as president.
SCOTUS now says he was immune at the time since this idea of presidential immunity is supposedly somewhere in the constitution.
 
Efforts to win re-election are not official acts even if (and especially if) they involve DOJ. Officials
He was the president until he loses, so every act until he cleans out his desk is considered official acts by the president until then. A president can also give pardons on his way out the door.
 
He was the president until he loses, so every act until he cleans out his desk is considered official acts by the president until then. A president can also give pardons on his way out the door.
So you’re saying that ANYTHING he does while President is legal?

That’s a novel legal theory that almost no one agree with… and rightfully so.
 
Biden wants to propose a Constitutional amendment to “reverse” the SCOTUS decision on Presidential Immunity.


Just as we don’t believe in ex post facto laws, so too we don’t accept ex post facto Constitutional Amendments designed to impact just one individual.

Thankfully, it won’t matter. No such proposal to amend the Constitution is going to get enacted or passed or ratified, anyway.

In fact, even if it were to somehow get ratified, it would only impact future Presidents.
Sorry Biden is trying to get in the way of your plans for a Republican autocracy?
 

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