Another empty threat?

[Harpy Eagle]

You claim there aren’t gonna be another 20,000 headed this way.

I claim the story is fake news.

You claim there hasn’t been 20,000 coming in unless allll in one group at the same moment.

Nope, I never made such a claim.

You claim there is no crisis, even when they had 3700 come in on Mar 25 al9ne. Yet there is no crisis.

Nope, I never made such a claim.

Your claim is there isn’t a crisis. Bull. And it is there, all the facts posted from CBP, photos and video of what has been occurring for months now. Nearly 100,000 in 3 months apprehended in 2019. Around 1111 per day. That is a crisis.

Continue, it only let’s others see how nuts your posts have been.
Now, I am done.

It is easy to call someone nuts when all you do is lie about a person.




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[beautress]

Comrade, how should we deal with the assault on our southern border by your party and the foreign allies you have in the attack you are waging on America?

Thanks for asking, here is the plan I have put forth on this forum many times. It is a 3 step plan.

1. Pull at least 50% of the troops from Europe and station them on the border allowing them to defend this great nation for a change.

2. Go after the people that hire illegals, and go after them hard. Fines so high that businesses go out under and jail time for those caught doing it.

3. Create a true guest worker program so that those industries that need the labor can get it legally.

Do those 3 things and the illegal immigrant problem will be solved.

I like my plan better. Being here illegally is a first degree felony carrying a minimum of five years in prison. That takes care of every sector of the problem. It takes care of the people who have been here for a very long time, VISA overstays, asylum seekers that didn't attend court and became illegal, and of course, people thinking about coming here illegally.

The problem is you cannot change a law and then retroactively have it effect those that did whatever it was before the law was changed.

You're not changing anything but the penalty. You broke our laws when you came here illegally, and you are still breaking our laws today because you're here illegally. If you don't leave by tomorrow, you will be breaking our laws then as well.

If speeding today is a traffic violation and tomorrow it is made a felony, you cannot go back and charge the people from yesterday with a felony.

Also, your plan lets those that pay them to come here off the hook totally

You think Congress cannot make something date back retroactively? I might be mistaken, but I think they can do that if they have motivation enough, but they usually don't. Maybe they can't. Do we have a legal eagle around here that knows for sure? Because, that I'm not. But I think I've heard of it.

 

[beautress]

Trump threatens to close border 'next week' if Mexico doesn't 'immediately stop' flood of illegal immigrants

So, Trump tweeted he will close the southern border next week if Mexico does not stop illegals from entering the US.

Will he do it?

What would be the damage to the economy from such an action?

Somewhere in the neighborhood of 1.5 billion dollars worth of goods flow back and forth across that border each and every day.

Yes, he can and will close the border if Mexico ignores his suggestion.

 

[Aldo Raine]

I noticed you glossed right over punishing businesses for the hiring of those illegals. I would like to say I am surprised but I am not!

I would like to say your read earlier posts, but you did not. I posted the penalty and link for employers who hire illegals.

You do know that there is a chicken processing plant in the Canton/Massillon area that got busted last year with a slue of illegals. Do you know what happened to them? Almost nothing, it wouldn't even be considered a slap on the wrists. And I did read the earlier posts and you do know that the laws are not set in stone for businesses don't you?

Actually there were a few busts in this area after Trump took over. Never heard anything about them since. Perhaps you have links?

I actually could not find any when searching for the punishments, but there are plenty on the 150 or so illegals busted at the freshway plant in Canton. Do not no how to link them from my phone though.

I remember that. I think there was another one by Sandusky too, but I may be mistaken on that.

So what should we do with employers that hire illegals, and how do we prove they knew their applicants were illegals? After all, you can't prosecute somebody that had no idea they were breaking the law.

Really, try pleading ignorance of the law sometime in traffic court and see how that goes. As far as penalties I cannot say for sure but make them strong enough to truly threaten a business for doing it. And you are supposed to get social security numbers, drivers license or some other form of ID. I know I need 2 forms of ID at every job I go to.

I know you will bring up someone using fake ID's and if that is the case the business will be able to show that they were in compliance because they will have copies. It will not be fun or easy but steps most be taken.

I am not sure about the Sandusky incident as I truly have no memory of that one.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Thanks for asking, here is the plan I have put forth on this forum many times. It is a 3 step plan.

1. Pull at least 50% of the troops from Europe and station them on the border allowing them to defend this great nation for a change.

2. Go after the people that hire illegals, and go after them hard. Fines so high that businesses go out under and jail time for those caught doing it.

3. Create a true guest worker program so that those industries that need the labor can get it legally.

Do those 3 things and the illegal immigrant problem will be solved.

I like my plan better. Being here illegally is a first degree felony carrying a minimum of five years in prison. That takes care of every sector of the problem. It takes care of the people who have been here for a very long time, VISA overstays, asylum seekers that didn't attend court and became illegal, and of course, people thinking about coming here illegally.

The problem is you cannot change a law and then retroactively have it effect those that did whatever it was before the law was changed.

You're not changing anything but the penalty. You broke our laws when you came here illegally, and you are still breaking our laws today because you're here illegally. If you don't leave by tomorrow, you will be breaking our laws then as well.

If speeding today is a traffic violation and tomorrow it is made a felony, you cannot go back and charge the people from yesterday with a felony.

Also, your plan lets those that pay them to come here off the hook totally

You think Congress cannot make something date back retroactively? I might be mistaken, but I think they can do that if they have motivation enough, but they usually don't. Maybe they can't. Do we have a legal eagle around here that knows for sure? Because, that I'm not. But I think I've heard of it.

Yes, I think they cannot.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I would like to say your read earlier posts, but you did not. I posted the penalty and link for employers who hire illegals.

You do know that there is a chicken processing plant in the Canton/Massillon area that got busted last year with a slue of illegals. Do you know what happened to them? Almost nothing, it wouldn't even be considered a slap on the wrists. And I did read the earlier posts and you do know that the laws are not set in stone for businesses don't you?

Actually there were a few busts in this area after Trump took over. Never heard anything about them since. Perhaps you have links?

I actually could not find any when searching for the punishments, but there are plenty on the 150 or so illegals busted at the freshway plant in Canton. Do not no how to link them from my phone though.

I remember that. I think there was another one by Sandusky too, but I may be mistaken on that.

So what should we do with employers that hire illegals, and how do we prove they knew their applicants were illegals? After all, you can't prosecute somebody that had no idea they were breaking the law.

Really, try pleading ignorance of the law sometime in traffic court and see how that goes. As far as penalties I cannot say for sure but make them strong enough to truly threaten a business for doing it. And you are supposed to get social security numbers, drivers license or some other form of ID. I know I need 2 forms of ID at every job I go to.

I know you will bring up someone using fake ID's and if that is the case the business will be able to show that they were in compliance because they will have copies. It will not be fun or easy but steps most be taken.

I am not sure about the Sandusky incident as I truly have no memory of that one.

If you read the link I posted it clearly states a business risks losing their business license. If you lose your business license, you lose your business.

So now you want copies of personal identification floating around everywhere. I'm not too comfortable with that. Perhaps I'm paranoid, but I even use cash for all my purchases just so I don't have to expose my credit or debit cards to anybody. Identity theft is a major problem in the US. In fact somebody on Facebook just posted a story of a card reader on a bank ATM machine.

The stupidity behind all this is we are not using maximum effort to keep people out of the country, and once they are here and get a job, we should lock up Americans for hiring them. We have sanctuary cities and states all over the place and nobody is doing anything to stop them. So we give these illegals places to hide, and expect employers in these sanctuaries not to hire them.

 

[beautress]

I like my plan better. Being here illegally is a first degree felony carrying a minimum of five years in prison. That takes care of every sector of the problem. It takes care of the people who have been here for a very long time, VISA overstays, asylum seekers that didn't attend court and became illegal, and of course, people thinking about coming here illegally.

The problem is you cannot change a law and then retroactively have it effect those that did whatever it was before the law was changed.

You're not changing anything but the penalty. You broke our laws when you came here illegally, and you are still breaking our laws today because you're here illegally. If you don't leave by tomorrow, you will be breaking our laws then as well.

If speeding today is a traffic violation and tomorrow it is made a felony, you cannot go back and charge the people from yesterday with a felony.

Also, your plan lets those that pay them to come here off the hook totally

You think Congress cannot make something date back retroactively? I might be mistaken, but I think they can do that if they have motivation enough, but they usually don't. Maybe they can't. Do we have a legal eagle around here that knows for sure? Because, that I'm not. But I think I've heard of it.

Yes, I think they cannot.

You think CONGRESS cannot take an issue retroactively if the situation warrants it? Do you know where that is in the Constitution?

 

[Aldo Raine]

You do know that there is a chicken processing plant in the Canton/Massillon area that got busted last year with a slue of illegals. Do you know what happened to them? Almost nothing, it wouldn't even be considered a slap on the wrists. And I did read the earlier posts and you do know that the laws are not set in stone for businesses don't you?

Actually there were a few busts in this area after Trump took over. Never heard anything about them since. Perhaps you have links?

I actually could not find any when searching for the punishments, but there are plenty on the 150 or so illegals busted at the freshway plant in Canton. Do not no how to link them from my phone though.

I remember that. I think there was another one by Sandusky too, but I may be mistaken on that.

So what should we do with employers that hire illegals, and how do we prove they knew their applicants were illegals? After all, you can't prosecute somebody that had no idea they were breaking the law.

Really, try pleading ignorance of the law sometime in traffic court and see how that goes. As far as penalties I cannot say for sure but make them strong enough to truly threaten a business for doing it. And you are supposed to get social security numbers, drivers license or some other form of ID. I know I need 2 forms of ID at every job I go to.

I know you will bring up someone using fake ID's and if that is the case the business will be able to show that they were in compliance because they will have copies. It will not be fun or easy but steps most be taken.

I am not sure about the Sandusky incident as I truly have no memory of that one.

If you read the link I posted it clearly states a business risks losing their business license. If you lose your business license, you lose your business.

So now you want copies of personal identification floating around everywhere. I'm not too comfortable with that. Perhaps I'm paranoid, but I even use cash for all my purchases just so I don't have to expose my credit or debit cards to anybody. Identity theft is a major problem in the US. In fact somebody on Facebook just posted a story of a card reader on a bank ATM machine.

The stupidity behind all this is we are not using maximum effort to keep people out of the country, and once they are here and get a job, we should lock up Americans for hiring them. We have sanctuary cities and states all over the place and nobody is doing anything to stop them. So we give these illegals places to hide, and expect employers in these sanctuaries not to hire them.

Exactly how many businesses have you ever heard of that have ever lost their license to do business because of this law? And I am not for sanctuary cities at all, never have been and never will!

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The problem is you cannot change a law and then retroactively have it effect those that did whatever it was before the law was changed.

You're not changing anything but the penalty. You broke our laws when you came here illegally, and you are still breaking our laws today because you're here illegally. If you don't leave by tomorrow, you will be breaking our laws then as well.

If speeding today is a traffic violation and tomorrow it is made a felony, you cannot go back and charge the people from yesterday with a felony.

Also, your plan lets those that pay them to come here off the hook totally

You think Congress cannot make something date back retroactively? I might be mistaken, but I think they can do that if they have motivation enough, but they usually don't. Maybe they can't. Do we have a legal eagle around here that knows for sure? Because, that I'm not. But I think I've heard of it.

Yes, I think they cannot.

You think CONGRESS cannot take an issue retroactively if the situation warrants it? Do you know where that is in the Constitution?

I know that Congress can not make something illegal today and then have people arrested for doing it yesterday when it was not illegal.


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[Fang]

Mexico braces for new caravan of Central American migrants

Let me know when it actually forms and heads this way.

We were told by FoxNews back in Jan that one was coming...I think we are still waiting.

So links to several articles stating exactly what the poster in question said isn't good enough. Talk about making up your own facts. LOL

In January these same agencies ran stories about a caravan heading our way, and it magically never materialized

It is amazing how many of your Trumpians all of a sudden have unwavering faith in the MSM.


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Yeah, it's all just made up.

U.S. Apprehended Record Number of Migrant Families At Southwest Border

Mexico braces for new caravan of Central American migrants

Let me know when it actually forms and heads this way.

We were told by FoxNews back in Jan that one was coming...I think we are still waiting.

So links to several articles stating exactly what the poster in question said isn't good enough. Talk about making up your own facts. LOL

In January these same agencies ran stories about a caravan heading our way, and it magically never materialized

It is amazing how many of your Trumpians all of a sudden have unwavering faith in the MSM.


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Yeah, it's all just made up.

U.S. Apprehended Record Number of Migrant Families At Southwest Border

not a thing in there about a giant caravan forming....keep trying

Well then instead of calling it a "giant caravan" we'll call it a "record number of migrants at the southwest border".

 

[Deno]

Trump threatens to close border 'next week' if Mexico doesn't 'immediately stop' flood of illegal immigrants

So, Trump tweeted he will close the southern border next week if Mexico does not stop illegals from entering the US.

Will he do it?

What would be the damage to the economy from such an action?

Somewhere in the neighborhood of 1.5 billion dollars worth of goods flow back and forth across that border each and every day.

You Tards never seem to tire of making fools of yourselves.....

You Quack all this Bull Shit only to be proved wrong over and over again...

And we have all seen you will never put your money where your mouth is at...

You are all lying Chicken Shits...................

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Let me know when it actually forms and heads this way.

We were told by FoxNews back in Jan that one was coming...I think we are still waiting.

So links to several articles stating exactly what the poster in question said isn't good enough. Talk about making up your own facts. LOL

In January these same agencies ran stories about a caravan heading our way, and it magically never materialized

It is amazing how many of your Trumpians all of a sudden have unwavering faith in the MSM.


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Yeah, it's all just made up.

U.S. Apprehended Record Number of Migrant Families At Southwest Border

Let me know when it actually forms and heads this way.

We were told by FoxNews back in Jan that one was coming...I think we are still waiting.

So links to several articles stating exactly what the poster in question said isn't good enough. Talk about making up your own facts. LOL

In January these same agencies ran stories about a caravan heading our way, and it magically never materialized

It is amazing how many of your Trumpians all of a sudden have unwavering faith in the MSM.


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Yeah, it's all just made up.

U.S. Apprehended Record Number of Migrant Families At Southwest Border

not a thing in there about a giant caravan forming....keep trying

Well then instead of calling it a "giant caravan" we'll call it a "record number of migrants at the southwest border".

Nobody has questioned that fact.


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[candycorn]

Trump threatens to close border 'next week' if Mexico doesn't 'immediately stop' flood of illegal immigrants

So, Trump tweeted he will close the southern border next week if Mexico does not stop illegals from entering the US.

Will he do it?

What would be the damage to the economy from such an action?

Somewhere in the neighborhood of 1.5 billion dollars worth of goods flow back and forth across that border each and every day.

I hope so. Every lurch away from the standard and customary normalcy of the status quo is probably peeling off a few votes from the undecideds and democrats who crossed. Maybe not. Anyway, I’m willing to roll the dice on that.

 

[Fang]

So links to several articles stating exactly what the poster in question said isn't good enough. Talk about making up your own facts. LOL

In January these same agencies ran stories about a caravan heading our way, and it magically never materialized

It is amazing how many of your Trumpians all of a sudden have unwavering faith in the MSM.


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Yeah, it's all just made up.

U.S. Apprehended Record Number of Migrant Families At Southwest Border

So links to several articles stating exactly what the poster in question said isn't good enough. Talk about making up your own facts. LOL

In January these same agencies ran stories about a caravan heading our way, and it magically never materialized

It is amazing how many of your Trumpians all of a sudden have unwavering faith in the MSM.


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Yeah, it's all just made up.

U.S. Apprehended Record Number of Migrant Families At Southwest Border

not a thing in there about a giant caravan forming....keep trying

Well then instead of calling it a "giant caravan" we'll call it a "record number of migrants at the southwest border".

Nobody has questioned that fact.


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Alrighty then. It's just a play on words. The end result is the crisis at the border is real.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

In January these same agencies ran stories about a caravan heading our way, and it magically never materialized

It is amazing how many of your Trumpians all of a sudden have unwavering faith in the MSM.


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Yeah, it's all just made up.

U.S. Apprehended Record Number of Migrant Families At Southwest Border

In January these same agencies ran stories about a caravan heading our way, and it magically never materialized

It is amazing how many of your Trumpians all of a sudden have unwavering faith in the MSM.


Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com

Yeah, it's all just made up.

U.S. Apprehended Record Number of Migrant Families At Southwest Border

not a thing in there about a giant caravan forming....keep trying

Well then instead of calling it a "giant caravan" we'll call it a "record number of migrants at the southwest border".

Nobody has questioned that fact.


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Alrighty then. It's just a play on words. The end result is the crisis at the border is real.

It is not a play on words. It was stated a 20,000 person convoy was forming south of Mexico. I called that story fake news and was attacked for doing so.

The migrants at the border now cannot be part of a convoy forming south of Mexico


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[Ambivalent1]

In January these same agencies ran stories about a caravan heading our way, and it magically never materialized

It is amazing how many of your Trumpians all of a sudden have unwavering faith in the MSM.


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Yeah, it's all just made up.

U.S. Apprehended Record Number of Migrant Families At Southwest Border

In January these same agencies ran stories about a caravan heading our way, and it magically never materialized

It is amazing how many of your Trumpians all of a sudden have unwavering faith in the MSM.


Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com

Yeah, it's all just made up.

U.S. Apprehended Record Number of Migrant Families At Southwest Border

not a thing in there about a giant caravan forming....keep trying

Well then instead of calling it a "giant caravan" we'll call it a "record number of migrants at the southwest border".

Nobody has questioned that fact.


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Alrighty then. It's just a play on words. The end result is the crisis at the border is real.

That's his entire game. He plays word games and pretends he's "smart".

 

[debbiedowner]

Trump threatens to close border 'next week' if Mexico doesn't 'immediately stop' flood of illegal immigrants

So, Trump tweeted he will close the southern border next week if Mexico does not stop illegals from entering the US.

Will he do it?

What would be the damage to the economy from such an action?

Somewhere in the neighborhood of 1.5 billion dollars worth of goods flow back and forth across that border each and every day.

Yes, he can and will close the border if Mexico ignores his suggestion.

The U.S. and Mexico trade about $1.7 billion in goods daily, according to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, which said closing the border would be “an unmitigated economic debacle” that would threaten 5 million American jobs.

 

[Thinker101]

Trump threatens to close border 'next week' if Mexico doesn't 'immediately stop' flood of illegal immigrants

So, Trump tweeted he will close the southern border next week if Mexico does not stop illegals from entering the US.

Will he do it?

What would be the damage to the economy from such an action?

Somewhere in the neighborhood of 1.5 billion dollars worth of goods flow back and forth across that border each and every day.

Yes, he can and will close the border if Mexico ignores his suggestion.

The U.S. and Mexico trade about $1.7 billion in goods daily, according to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, which said closing the border would be “an unmitigated economic debacle” that would threaten 5 million American jobs.

Well, then now would be a good time for Democrats to negotiate on a wall instead of sitting on their butts complaining.

 

[depotoo]

Release Date:
March 28, 2019
EDINBURG, Texas – U.S. Border Patrol agents continue to encounter large groups of illegal aliens undaunted by Border Patrol presence.

On Monday, Rio Grande City agents patrolling the Rio Grande near Sullivan City, Texas, encountered a group of 110 illegal aliens from the countries of Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala.

A few hours later, Rio Grande City agents working near Roma, Texas, encountered a large group of 98 illegal aliens from Central America.

On Tuesday, McAllen agents working near Penitas, Texas, encountered a group of 158 illegal aliens comprised of family units and unaccompanied children from the countries of El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala, Ecuador and Nicaragua.

An hour later, McAllen agents working near Abram, Texas, encountered a group of 105 illegal aliens comprised of family units and unaccompanied children from Central America and Ecuador.

That same day, McAllen agents patrolling the river levee near Mission, Texas, encountered a third group of over 100 illegal aliens consisting of family units and unaccompanied children. In all, agents took 123 people in to custody. The group consisted of citizens and nationals of El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Ecuador, Nicaragua and Sri Lanka.

This morning, Rio Grande City agents working near Roma, Texas responded to a report of a large group of suspected illegal aliens walking north of the Rio Grande. Upon arrival, agents encountered 190 illegal aliens, all from Central America.

On Tuesday, the Rio Grande Valley Sector apprehended nearly 1,700 illegal aliens, making it the highest one-day total since 2014. At its current rate, the Rio Grande Valley Sector will surpass 2014 apprehensions during the last mass migration influx.

Border Patrol is processing all subjects accordingly.

Please visit www.cbp.gov to view additional news releases and other information pertaining to Customs and Border Protection. Follow us on Twitter at @CBPRGV.

 

[depotoo]

Criminals continue to flow through the Rio Grande Valley | U.S. Customs and Border Protection