Anti-Klan Statute Nabs a New Generation of Violent Leftists

[Pogo]

What the fuck is your native language? "Any more", misspelled as one word, is used there as a comparator.

"You're not a rock star any more than I'm the queen of Belgium".

Your attempt to deflect from your nonsense with semantics is noted and laughed at.

Prohibition ended 85 years ago.

Hilarious.

--- And while it was on the Klan was pushing it. Which is the whole point contained in the nested posts.

Learn to English.

Today, the Klan is a powerless fringe.

While the Left is doing things like speech codes.

IN Canada and the UK, it is ILLEGALS to say certain things about gays or muslims. You can be arrested for believing and saying something that liberals don't like.

ANd many liberals here support such controlling shit.

SO, tell me. Do you really care about assholes being controlling. Or was that just something you said, so that you could attack your enemies?

The very concept of Freedom of Expression is the starting point of Liberalism. So anyone you care to cite trying to curb that freedom of expression, is anti-Liberal.

The utter hypocrisy of the modern liberals, and their completely betrayal of what they supposedly stand for, has been discussed many times at length.

Hell, Bill Maher, has discussed it repeatedly.

My point stands, which I supported, stands. It is modern libs that are pushing speech codes and censor ship.

--- Then those you describe as such, cannot be Liberals. Simple as that. What's more, I already pointed this out, repeatedly, here and long before.

And this may come as a shock but I am not Bill Maher. I am also not the queen of Belgium, nor am I any body of broad-brush generalization your tiny mind wishes it could employ because it can't handle individual commentary.

Dafuk is that supposed to be? Screen color test?

The fact that you can't tell the difference and insist on calling something its own opposite, is your problem, not that of the term you're abusing.

The fact that you think that the definition of liberal, trumps the actions of modern liberals, is funny.

People are defined by their actions. Liberals today, are acting in a way opposite to their label.

Then (again, umpteenth time) you have thereupon affixed an erroneous label. And this is twice in the same post it has been necessary to re-state the same truism that existed before we got here.

The world waits for you to figure this out and quit doing it.

Furthermore this thread isn't about Liberals anyway. It's about leftists.

It does not go unnoticed that you're backing away from your own ridiculous misread about time periods and what defines 'fascist' behavior. I'll accept your concession as soon as you admit you just made it. Again, since the Klan was first founded over 150 years ago, citing some of its behavior from 85 years ago is one would have to say well within range, is it not?

In discussing people's and groups' actions TODAY, citing behavior from 85 years ago, is not within range.

The description of what the values and strategies of the KKK are and have been historically is not limited to an 85-year time frame just to get your faux pas off the hook, nor any other time frame save those outside the time it has existed. DEAL with it.

 

[Pogo]

Nice "objective" link there --- from the text once it finally worked:

>> Mathias quotes an Antifa member named Molly: "The irony of enforcing masking laws to prosecute leftists is just incredible. Those are anti-Klan statutes."

Yes, they are. But the Klan was the radical left wing of the Democratic Party. And this particular group of new-Nazis called themselves the National Socialist Movement, so ... more lefties. <<​

More history revisionism would be more accurate, since both the Klan and the Nazis were, and are, far-right fascists. The very name "Antifa(scist)" kind of locks down where each entity sits.

Yet another episode in desperate denialism. Doublethink has arrived.

The NAZI party's official title was: the National SOCIALIST German Workers Party). Socialism and Communism is and always has been, about big government control over businesses, programs and peoples lives.

What you're describing there is Statism, not socialism or communism. The latter two are economic systems; they don't require "big government" or a government at all. "Big government" isn't related to what kind of economics a given one practices. "Authoritarianism" is what BG is about, regardless how it runs its economy. But "socialism" and "communism" aren't even related to "how big the government is".

The term "socialist", new and trendy at the time, was already in the name of the NSDAP when Hitler joined it in 1920. He objected to the term but went along for its marketing value. Then he established the Brownshirts, basically his domestic thug army, to beat up and intimidate the actual Socialists, who were a real party by themselves in opposition to Hitler's authoritarian fascists. And once he amassed enough power, the socialists and communists were his first "guests" at Dachau. These are historical facts, and we've lain them all out before.

The Republican party is about SMALLER government, individual rights and less governmental overreach.

Actually I made no mention of the Republican Party or any other party. But as long as you bring it up, isn't it fascinating that when the RP was founded it was the party of "big government", a direct result of the Whigs that populated it.

Anyway that too has nothing to do with the description of the Klan as far-right fascists, in DIRECT contradiction to the mendacious turd the bogus OP article tried to float, which was the point I already made. Not in the slightest related. But if you'd like to keep going down the road of "the Republican Party is about smaller government", feel free to explain those grossly engorged military budgets without using the word "oopsie".

The far-right as many call it, is to have a minimal federal government.

Again, "far right" or "far left" describe nothing about "minimal" or "maximum" government. They measure ideology, not force. What you're conflating is "minimal" government (which points to Libertarianism) and "big" government (pointing the other way to Authoritarianism) with the concepts of "left" and "right".

We will only agree to disagree.

It isn't a matter of "agreeing" or "disagreeing". What I just gave you is historical fact. On the record. There is no option to "disagree" with historical fact. There's no such thing as "alternate facts". Facts are like a sperm hitting the egg --- once it happens, there ain't no "alternates".

 

[Correll]

Your attempt to deflect from your nonsense with semantics is noted and laughed at.

Prohibition ended 85 years ago.

Hilarious.

--- And while it was on the Klan was pushing it. Which is the whole point contained in the nested posts.

Learn to English.

Today, the Klan is a powerless fringe.

While the Left is doing things like speech codes.

IN Canada and the UK, it is ILLEGALS to say certain things about gays or muslims. You can be arrested for believing and saying something that liberals don't like.

ANd many liberals here support such controlling shit.

SO, tell me. Do you really care about assholes being controlling. Or was that just something you said, so that you could attack your enemies?

The very concept of Freedom of Expression is the starting point of Liberalism. So anyone you care to cite trying to curb that freedom of expression, is anti-Liberal.

The utter hypocrisy of the modern liberals, and their completely betrayal of what they supposedly stand for, has been discussed many times at length.

Hell, Bill Maher, has discussed it repeatedly.

My point stands, which I supported, stands. It is modern libs that are pushing speech codes and censor ship.

--- Then those you describe as such, cannot be Liberals. Simple as that. What's more, I already pointed this out, repeatedly, here and long before.

And this may come as a shock but I am not Bill Maher. I am also not the queen of Belgium, nor am I any body of broad-brush generalization your tiny mind wishes it could employ because it can't handle individual commentary.

Dafuk is that supposed to be? Screen color test?

The fact that you can't tell the difference and insist on calling something its own opposite, is your problem, not that of the term you're abusing.

The fact that you think that the definition of liberal, trumps the actions of modern liberals, is funny.

People are defined by their actions. Liberals today, are acting in a way opposite to their label.

Then (again, umpteenth time) you have thereupon affixed an erroneous label. And this is twice in the same post it has been necessary to re-state the same truism that existed before we got here.

The world waits for you to figure this out and quit doing it.

Furthermore this thread isn't about Liberals anyway. It's about leftists.

It does not go unnoticed that you're backing away from your own ridiculous misread about time periods and what defines 'fascist' behavior. I'll accept your concession as soon as you admit you just made it. Again, since the Klan was first founded over 150 years ago, citing some of its behavior from 85 years ago is one would have to say well within range, is it not?

In discussing people's and groups' actions TODAY, citing behavior from 85 years ago, is not within range.

The description of what the values and strategies of the KKK are and have been historically is not limited to an 85-year time frame just to get your faux pas off the hook, nor any other time frame save those outside the time it has existed. DEAL with it.

1. Your denial that liberals are trying to stifle free speech because then they are not liberals is the Logical Fallacy of No True Scotsman, and thus invalid.


2. The strategy of the KKK, today, is not that of 85 years ago. THey are now a powerless fringe.

 

[RealDave]

Who is talking about tactics?

"a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition."

Sounds like trump's desire & direction. Silence the press, silence his opponents, corporations above people, Elevating the wealthy, > Your little buddy wants to decide everything.

No, that sounds like the Trump Caricature you morons have created in your head, because you are so simple you have to create a boogeyman for your daily two-minute hate.

So, the Tax Cut Bill that heavily favors the wealthy & corporations is just in my head. Great news. Here I was thinking Trump was directing our money to corporations & rich people like himself. Was it just a dream I had? Or maybe you are too stupid to know it happened?

Trump also is not trying to silence the press's influence with his "Fake News" bullshit that you dipsticks buy.

Trump is not using his powers to undo federal departments like the EPA, Labor laws, safety net programs.

Noooooooooo. None of this shit is happening- at least not in Marty World.

Your first statement has nothing to do with nazis. The Nazis actually capped corporate profits to support the war industry.

Calling the press out is not silencing them. When websites start going down and offices get raided, then you have a point. until then, nope.

Trump is cleaning up departments that have far too many regulations. If you look at the history of Nazi Germany, they were HUGE fans of increased regulations, partly to placate workers, and partly to regulate the war economy.

None of "this shit" has anything to do with Nazism. Unless of course you are one of those room temperature IQ wankers who equate anything you don't like to "Nazi Nazi Nazi!"

Wow, what a Marty Burger.

BY painting the press as liars, he is silencing them

Maybe you think Trump is the one telling the truth? Really Marty, you can't be that fucking stupid.

I was talking about Fascism, not the Nazis. You know, the guys Trump thinks are good [people.

No, he isn't. they are not silencing in any way. and their reputation is being tarnished by their own partisan actions, not by Trump.

Trump lies like any other politician, but a different flavor than progressive lying.

And his lies have never directly hurt me. Obama's one big lie sure as hell did.

Fascism/Nazism is the same thing. One of a form of the other, and have been used interchangeably.

Trump does something sdupid, the press reports it. It has nothing to do with partisanship.

Name some news story that were really "Fake News"? Lets see just how duped you really are.

What "big lie" hurt you Marty & please don't blame Obama because you chose a plan that did not include your doctor.

 

[martybegan]

No, that sounds like the Trump Caricature you morons have created in your head, because you are so simple you have to create a boogeyman for your daily two-minute hate.

So, the Tax Cut Bill that heavily favors the wealthy & corporations is just in my head. Great news. Here I was thinking Trump was directing our money to corporations & rich people like himself. Was it just a dream I had? Or maybe you are too stupid to know it happened?

Trump also is not trying to silence the press's influence with his "Fake News" bullshit that you dipsticks buy.

Trump is not using his powers to undo federal departments like the EPA, Labor laws, safety net programs.

Noooooooooo. None of this shit is happening- at least not in Marty World.

Your first statement has nothing to do with nazis. The Nazis actually capped corporate profits to support the war industry.

Calling the press out is not silencing them. When websites start going down and offices get raided, then you have a point. until then, nope.

Trump is cleaning up departments that have far too many regulations. If you look at the history of Nazi Germany, they were HUGE fans of increased regulations, partly to placate workers, and partly to regulate the war economy.

None of "this shit" has anything to do with Nazism. Unless of course you are one of those room temperature IQ wankers who equate anything you don't like to "Nazi Nazi Nazi!"

Wow, what a Marty Burger.

BY painting the press as liars, he is silencing them

Maybe you think Trump is the one telling the truth? Really Marty, you can't be that fucking stupid.

I was talking about Fascism, not the Nazis. You know, the guys Trump thinks are good [people.

No, he isn't. they are not silencing in any way. and their reputation is being tarnished by their own partisan actions, not by Trump.

Trump lies like any other politician, but a different flavor than progressive lying.

And his lies have never directly hurt me. Obama's one big lie sure as hell did.

Fascism/Nazism is the same thing. One of a form of the other, and have been used interchangeably.

Trump does something sdupid, the press reports it. It has nothing to do with partisanship.

Name some news story that were really "Fake News"? Lets see just how duped you really are.

What "big lie" hurt you Marty & please don't blame Obama because you chose a plan that did not include your doctor.

How many of the current headlines about Trump are based on hard evidence, vs. those that are solely based on "unnamed sources?"

THAT is the crux of 'fake news", it's the use of rumor and reports and presenting them as actual fact when making a story.

No, they changed my plan because of the new Obamacare rules. They made PPO's so expensive due to the rules I had to switch to a high deductible plan.

 

[RealDave]

Who is talking about tactics?

"a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition."

Sounds like trump's desire & direction. Silence the press, silence his opponents, corporations above people, Elevating the wealthy, > Your little buddy wants to decide everything.

No, that sounds like the Trump Caricature you morons have created in your head, because you are so simple you have to create a boogeyman for your daily two-minute hate.

So, the Tax Cut Bill that heavily favors the wealthy & corporations is just in my head. Great news. Here I was thinking Trump was directing our money to corporations & rich people like himself. Was it just a dream I had? Or maybe you are too stupid to know it happened?

Trump also is not trying to silence the press's influence with his "Fake News" bullshit that you dipsticks buy.

Trump is not using his powers to undo federal departments like the EPA, Labor laws, safety net programs.

Noooooooooo. None of this shit is happening- at least not in Marty World.

Your first statement has nothing to do with nazis. The Nazis actually capped corporate profits to support the war industry.

Calling the press out is not silencing them. When websites start going down and offices get raided, then you have a point. until then, nope.

Trump is cleaning up departments that have far too many regulations. If you look at the history of Nazi Germany, they were HUGE fans of increased regulations, partly to placate workers, and partly to regulate the war economy.

None of "this shit" has anything to do with Nazism. Unless of course you are one of those room temperature IQ wankers who equate anything you don't like to "Nazi Nazi Nazi!"

rump put his people in charge of the departments to shut down their effectiveness. You think that is not the same as closing them down? Wow Marty, once again you prove yourself dumber than shit.

They are still doing their core jobs, they are just being cleaned up, streamlined, and turned away from bullshit progressive causes and pet projects.

Draining the swamp, motherfucker, deal with it.

Their core job is deactivating them.. Even a dumbass like you knows that is the same as closing them down.,

Yep,. dirtier air, more polluted water, more poisons dumped on our food. All great things Marty. All because the low life piece of shit you elected doesn't think corporations should spend money on those things. All fore corporate profits. I guess you have no children? At least no children you give a shit about.

 

[RealDave]

So, the Tax Cut Bill that heavily favors the wealthy & corporations is just in my head. Great news. Here I was thinking Trump was directing our money to corporations & rich people like himself. Was it just a dream I had? Or maybe you are too stupid to know it happened?

Trump also is not trying to silence the press's influence with his "Fake News" bullshit that you dipsticks buy.

Trump is not using his powers to undo federal departments like the EPA, Labor laws, safety net programs.

Noooooooooo. None of this shit is happening- at least not in Marty World.

Your first statement has nothing to do with nazis. The Nazis actually capped corporate profits to support the war industry.

Calling the press out is not silencing them. When websites start going down and offices get raided, then you have a point. until then, nope.

Trump is cleaning up departments that have far too many regulations. If you look at the history of Nazi Germany, they were HUGE fans of increased regulations, partly to placate workers, and partly to regulate the war economy.

None of "this shit" has anything to do with Nazism. Unless of course you are one of those room temperature IQ wankers who equate anything you don't like to "Nazi Nazi Nazi!"

Wow, what a Marty Burger.

BY painting the press as liars, he is silencing them

Maybe you think Trump is the one telling the truth? Really Marty, you can't be that fucking stupid.

I was talking about Fascism, not the Nazis. You know, the guys Trump thinks are good [people.

No, he isn't. they are not silencing in any way. and their reputation is being tarnished by their own partisan actions, not by Trump.

Trump lies like any other politician, but a different flavor than progressive lying.

And his lies have never directly hurt me. Obama's one big lie sure as hell did.

Fascism/Nazism is the same thing. One of a form of the other, and have been used interchangeably.

Trump does something sdupid, the press reports it. It has nothing to do with partisanship.

Name some news story that were really "Fake News"? Lets see just how duped you really are.

What "big lie" hurt you Marty & please don't blame Obama because you chose a plan that did not include your doctor.

How many of the current headlines about Trump are based on hard evidence, vs. those that are solely based on "unnamed sources?"

THAT is the crux of 'fake news", it's the use of rumor and reports and presenting them as actual fact when making a story.

No, they changed my plan because of the new Obamacare rules. They made PPO's so expensive due to the rules I had to switch to a high deductible plan.

OK, so you have no examples.

The press has always used unnamed sources. Funny chit though, most have come true.

Reporting on Stormy Daniels. I guess you think that is Fake News?
Reporting on the women who accused Trump of sexual misconduct. I guess you call that Fake News.

The truth is, Marty, you believe that orange proven liar instead of the press. Why is that Marty? Are you really that stupid?

You & your horde of morons had a fit about Benghazi & E-mails, the press reported on this with un-named sources, Where the fuck were you then???????? I'll tell you where you weren't - running in circles screaming Fake News you hypocritical little shit.

 

[martybegan]

No, that sounds like the Trump Caricature you morons have created in your head, because you are so simple you have to create a boogeyman for your daily two-minute hate.

So, the Tax Cut Bill that heavily favors the wealthy & corporations is just in my head. Great news. Here I was thinking Trump was directing our money to corporations & rich people like himself. Was it just a dream I had? Or maybe you are too stupid to know it happened?

Trump also is not trying to silence the press's influence with his "Fake News" bullshit that you dipsticks buy.

Trump is not using his powers to undo federal departments like the EPA, Labor laws, safety net programs.

Noooooooooo. None of this shit is happening- at least not in Marty World.

Your first statement has nothing to do with nazis. The Nazis actually capped corporate profits to support the war industry.

Calling the press out is not silencing them. When websites start going down and offices get raided, then you have a point. until then, nope.

Trump is cleaning up departments that have far too many regulations. If you look at the history of Nazi Germany, they were HUGE fans of increased regulations, partly to placate workers, and partly to regulate the war economy.

None of "this shit" has anything to do with Nazism. Unless of course you are one of those room temperature IQ wankers who equate anything you don't like to "Nazi Nazi Nazi!"

rump put his people in charge of the departments to shut down their effectiveness. You think that is not the same as closing them down? Wow Marty, once again you prove yourself dumber than shit.

They are still doing their core jobs, they are just being cleaned up, streamlined, and turned away from bullshit progressive causes and pet projects.

Draining the swamp, motherfucker, deal with it.

Their core job is deactivating them.. Even a dumbass like you knows that is the same as closing them down.,

Yep,. dirtier air, more polluted water, more poisons dumped on our food. All great things Marty. All because the low life piece of shit you elected doesn't think corporations should spend money on those things. All fore corporate profits. I guess you have no children? At least no children you give a shit about.

Regulation is not a black/white issue. Cutting back does not equal removing. Only in your panic-driven partisan hack mind does that concept have to apply so you can work yourself up into a lather.

Show me where what Trump is doing will lead to these things, be specific. Things like the new mercury regulations made the standards too stringent at too high a cost, and had negligible actual benefits.

Shall I report you for bringing family into the discussion?

 

[martybegan]

Your first statement has nothing to do with nazis. The Nazis actually capped corporate profits to support the war industry.

Calling the press out is not silencing them. When websites start going down and offices get raided, then you have a point. until then, nope.

Trump is cleaning up departments that have far too many regulations. If you look at the history of Nazi Germany, they were HUGE fans of increased regulations, partly to placate workers, and partly to regulate the war economy.

None of "this shit" has anything to do with Nazism. Unless of course you are one of those room temperature IQ wankers who equate anything you don't like to "Nazi Nazi Nazi!"

Wow, what a Marty Burger.

BY painting the press as liars, he is silencing them

Maybe you think Trump is the one telling the truth? Really Marty, you can't be that fucking stupid.

I was talking about Fascism, not the Nazis. You know, the guys Trump thinks are good [people.

No, he isn't. they are not silencing in any way. and their reputation is being tarnished by their own partisan actions, not by Trump.

Trump lies like any other politician, but a different flavor than progressive lying.

And his lies have never directly hurt me. Obama's one big lie sure as hell did.

Fascism/Nazism is the same thing. One of a form of the other, and have been used interchangeably.

Trump does something sdupid, the press reports it. It has nothing to do with partisanship.

Name some news story that were really "Fake News"? Lets see just how duped you really are.

What "big lie" hurt you Marty & please don't blame Obama because you chose a plan that did not include your doctor.

How many of the current headlines about Trump are based on hard evidence, vs. those that are solely based on "unnamed sources?"

THAT is the crux of 'fake news", it's the use of rumor and reports and presenting them as actual fact when making a story.

No, they changed my plan because of the new Obamacare rules. They made PPO's so expensive due to the rules I had to switch to a high deductible plan.

OK, so you have no examples.

The press has always used unnamed sources. Funny chit though, most have come true.

Reporting on Stormy Daniels. I guess you think that is Fake News?
Reporting on the women who accused Trump of sexual misconduct. I guess you call that Fake News.

The truth is, Marty, you believe that orange proven liar instead of the press. Why is that Marty? Are you really that stupid?

You & your horde of morons had a fit about Benghazi & E-mails, the press reported on this with un-named sources, Where the fuck were you then???????? I'll tell you where you weren't - running in circles screaming Fake News you hypocritical little shit.

There is a difference between using unnamed sources and treating them as fact.

What hard evidence is actually out there on the Stormy Daniels thing?

Can you find a post I made about Benghazi?

and as for a "fake news" link

CNN botches dates, inaccurately reports Trump campaign had WikiLeaks sneak peek

 

[RealDave]

--- And while it was on the Klan was pushing it. Which is the whole point contained in the nested posts.

Learn to English.

Today, the Klan is a powerless fringe.

While the Left is doing things like speech codes.

IN Canada and the UK, it is ILLEGALS to say certain things about gays or muslims. You can be arrested for believing and saying something that liberals don't like.

ANd many liberals here support such controlling shit.

SO, tell me. Do you really care about assholes being controlling. Or was that just something you said, so that you could attack your enemies?

The very concept of Freedom of Expression is the starting point of Liberalism. So anyone you care to cite trying to curb that freedom of expression, is anti-Liberal.

The utter hypocrisy of the modern liberals, and their completely betrayal of what they supposedly stand for, has been discussed many times at length.


Hell, Bill Maher, has discussed it repeatedly.


My point stands, which I supported, stands. It is modern libs that are pushing speech codes and censor ship.

The fact that you can't tell the difference and insist on calling something its own opposite, is your problem, not that of the term you're abusing.

The fact that you think that the definition of liberal, trumps the actions of modern liberals, is funny.


People are defined by their actions. Liberals today, are acting in a way opposite to their label.

It is hard to credit that you are unaware of this.

It does not go unnoticed that you're backing away from your own ridiculous misread about time periods and what defines 'fascist' behavior. I'll accept your concession as soon as you admit you just made it. Again, since the Klan was first founded over 150 years ago, citing some of its behavior from 85 years ago is one would have to say well within range, is it not?

In discussing people's and groups' actions TODAY, citing behavior from 85 years ago, is not within range.

You dipsticks bitching about freedom of speech is just too funny..

The push towards censorship from the left is no joke.



.

You want to be able to use racial slurs & make bigoted posts, lie, & call people names . You called it not being politically correct..

Fuck you, you filthy liar.

.

No one is stopping you..

Tell it to any number of conservatives speakers, who have been prevented from speaking by violent lefty mobs, and their collaborators in administration and local politics. And be prepared to be laughed at like the moron you are.

It is you idiots that are crying when a liberal calls you out on your speech.

Your lies aren't fooling anyone, liar.

You want to spew your bullshit without repercussion.

You are the one spewing bullshit, lefty, and everyone knows it.

I have the freedom of speech to comment on your crap. Don't like it? Too fucking bad.

Nothing I have ever said, gives you a reason to think that I don't support your right to Free Speech.


That is just you being a liar.

Your claim that the left is trying to censor you morons. How? All I see if the left calling out you hste spewing Trumpettes.

So, the Tax Cut Bill that heavily favors the wealthy & corporations is just in my head. Great news. Here I was thinking Trump was directing our money to corporations & rich people like himself. Was it just a dream I had? Or maybe you are too stupid to know it happened?

Trump also is not trying to silence the press's influence with his "Fake News" bullshit that you dipsticks buy.

Trump is not using his powers to undo federal departments like the EPA, Labor laws, safety net programs.

Noooooooooo. None of this shit is happening- at least not in Marty World.

Your first statement has nothing to do with nazis. The Nazis actually capped corporate profits to support the war industry.

Calling the press out is not silencing them. When websites start going down and offices get raided, then you have a point. until then, nope.

Trump is cleaning up departments that have far too many regulations. If you look at the history of Nazi Germany, they were HUGE fans of increased regulations, partly to placate workers, and partly to regulate the war economy.

None of "this shit" has anything to do with Nazism. Unless of course you are one of those room temperature IQ wankers who equate anything you don't like to "Nazi Nazi Nazi!"

rump put his people in charge of the departments to shut down their effectiveness. You think that is not the same as closing them down? Wow Marty, once again you prove yourself dumber than shit.

They are still doing their core jobs, they are just being cleaned up, streamlined, and turned away from bullshit progressive causes and pet projects.

Draining the swamp, motherfucker, deal with it.

Their core job is deactivating them.. Even a dumbass like you knows that is the same as closing them down.,

Yep,. dirtier air, more polluted water, more poisons dumped on our food. All great things Marty. All because the low life piece of shit you elected doesn't think corporations should spend money on those things. All fore corporate profits. I guess you have no children? At least no children you give a shit about.

Regulation is not a black/white issue. Cutting back does not equal removing. Only in your panic-driven partisan hack mind does that concept have to apply so you can work yourself up into a lather.

Show me where what Trump is doing will lead to these things, be specific. Things like the new mercury regulations made the standards too stringent at too high a cost, and had negligible actual benefits.

Shall I report you for bringing family into the discussion?

Either you regulate at a certain level or not. That is black & white.

Trump is rolling back regulations that protect our environment & our workers. He claims it is a burden to the poor poor corporations. So by removing them,. corporations would no longer follow those rules & the environment & all who reside in it suffer.

If you have no idea what has been done, quit posting until you become better informed.

23 Environmental Rules Rolled Back in Trump’s First 100 Days

 

[RealDave]

Wow, what a Marty Burger.

BY painting the press as liars, he is silencing them

Maybe you think Trump is the one telling the truth? Really Marty, you can't be that fucking stupid.

I was talking about Fascism, not the Nazis. You know, the guys Trump thinks are good [people.

No, he isn't. they are not silencing in any way. and their reputation is being tarnished by their own partisan actions, not by Trump.

Trump lies like any other politician, but a different flavor than progressive lying.

And his lies have never directly hurt me. Obama's one big lie sure as hell did.

Fascism/Nazism is the same thing. One of a form of the other, and have been used interchangeably.

Trump does something sdupid, the press reports it. It has nothing to do with partisanship.

Name some news story that were really "Fake News"? Lets see just how duped you really are.

What "big lie" hurt you Marty & please don't blame Obama because you chose a plan that did not include your doctor.

How many of the current headlines about Trump are based on hard evidence, vs. those that are solely based on "unnamed sources?"

THAT is the crux of 'fake news", it's the use of rumor and reports and presenting them as actual fact when making a story.

No, they changed my plan because of the new Obamacare rules. They made PPO's so expensive due to the rules I had to switch to a high deductible plan.

OK, so you have no examples.

The press has always used unnamed sources. Funny chit though, most have come true.

Reporting on Stormy Daniels. I guess you think that is Fake News?
Reporting on the women who accused Trump of sexual misconduct. I guess you call that Fake News.

The truth is, Marty, you believe that orange proven liar instead of the press. Why is that Marty? Are you really that stupid?

You & your horde of morons had a fit about Benghazi & E-mails, the press reported on this with un-named sources, Where the fuck were you then???????? I'll tell you where you weren't - running in circles screaming Fake News you hypocritical little shit.

There is a difference between using unnamed sources and treating them as fact.

What hard evidence is actually out there on the Stormy Daniels thing?

Can you find a post I made about Benghazi?

and as for a "fake news" link

CNN botches dates, inaccurately reports Trump campaign had WikiLeaks sneak peek

So, Marty, you never posted about Benghazi? Did you post how it was fake news? Why not? That is my point.

It is fact that Trump's lawyer whom Trump said was representing him, paid Daniels $130,000.00. We have the agreement.

As for your example, news gets things wrong sometimes & they admit it when it is discovered.

 

[Correll]

Today, the Klan is a powerless fringe.

While the Left is doing things like speech codes.

IN Canada and the UK, it is ILLEGALS to say certain things about gays or muslims. You can be arrested for believing and saying something that liberals don't like.

ANd many liberals here support such controlling shit.

SO, tell me. Do you really care about assholes being controlling. Or was that just something you said, so that you could attack your enemies?

The very concept of Freedom of Expression is the starting point of Liberalism. So anyone you care to cite trying to curb that freedom of expression, is anti-Liberal.

The utter hypocrisy of the modern liberals, and their completely betrayal of what they supposedly stand for, has been discussed many times at length.


Hell, Bill Maher, has discussed it repeatedly.


My point stands, which I supported, stands. It is modern libs that are pushing speech codes and censor ship.

The fact that you can't tell the difference and insist on calling something its own opposite, is your problem, not that of the term you're abusing.

The fact that you think that the definition of liberal, trumps the actions of modern liberals, is funny.


People are defined by their actions. Liberals today, are acting in a way opposite to their label.

It is hard to credit that you are unaware of this.

It does not go unnoticed that you're backing away from your own ridiculous misread about time periods and what defines 'fascist' behavior. I'll accept your concession as soon as you admit you just made it. Again, since the Klan was first founded over 150 years ago, citing some of its behavior from 85 years ago is one would have to say well within range, is it not?

In discussing people's and groups' actions TODAY, citing behavior from 85 years ago, is not within range.

You dipsticks bitching about freedom of speech is just too funny..

The push towards censorship from the left is no joke.



.

You want to be able to use racial slurs & make bigoted posts, lie, & call people names . You called it not being politically correct..

Fuck you, you filthy liar.

.

No one is stopping you..

Tell it to any number of conservatives speakers, who have been prevented from speaking by violent lefty mobs, and their collaborators in administration and local politics. And be prepared to be laughed at like the moron you are.

It is you idiots that are crying when a liberal calls you out on your speech.

Your lies aren't fooling anyone, liar.

You want to spew your bullshit without repercussion.

You are the one spewing bullshit, lefty, and everyone knows it.

I have the freedom of speech to comment on your crap. Don't like it? Too fucking bad.

Nothing I have ever said, gives you a reason to think that I don't support your right to Free Speech.


That is just you being a liar.

Your claim that the left is trying to censor you morons. How? All I see if the left calling out you hste spewing Trumpettes.

Mobs rioting, protesters shouting so much that a speech is impossible, pulling fire alarms,

ALL with the local alumni working with them at varying degrees of deniability, demanding massive fees for "security" while not providing any, or just denying access to the campus,

while local cops are ordered by local dem politicians to stand down to let the violent lefty mobs attack.


For starters.


Do you need specific examples of the above? Or are you completely aware of it, and won't waste my time asking for shit you know all about?

 

[Pogo]

--- And while it was on the Klan was pushing it. Which is the whole point contained in the nested posts.

Learn to English.

Today, the Klan is a powerless fringe.

While the Left is doing things like speech codes.

IN Canada and the UK, it is ILLEGALS to say certain things about gays or muslims. You can be arrested for believing and saying something that liberals don't like.

ANd many liberals here support such controlling shit.

SO, tell me. Do you really care about assholes being controlling. Or was that just something you said, so that you could attack your enemies?

The very concept of Freedom of Expression is the starting point of Liberalism. So anyone you care to cite trying to curb that freedom of expression, is anti-Liberal.

The utter hypocrisy of the modern liberals, and their completely betrayal of what they supposedly stand for, has been discussed many times at length.

Hell, Bill Maher, has discussed it repeatedly.

My point stands, which I supported, stands. It is modern libs that are pushing speech codes and censor ship.

--- Then those you describe as such, cannot be Liberals. Simple as that. What's more, I already pointed this out, repeatedly, here and long before.

And this may come as a shock but I am not Bill Maher. I am also not the queen of Belgium, nor am I any body of broad-brush generalization your tiny mind wishes it could employ because it can't handle individual commentary.

Dafuk is that supposed to be? Screen color test?

The fact that you can't tell the difference and insist on calling something its own opposite, is your problem, not that of the term you're abusing.

The fact that you think that the definition of liberal, trumps the actions of modern liberals, is funny.

People are defined by their actions. Liberals today, are acting in a way opposite to their label.

Then (again, umpteenth time) you have thereupon affixed an erroneous label. And this is twice in the same post it has been necessary to re-state the same truism that existed before we got here.

The world waits for you to figure this out and quit doing it.

Furthermore this thread isn't about Liberals anyway. It's about leftists.

It does not go unnoticed that you're backing away from your own ridiculous misread about time periods and what defines 'fascist' behavior. I'll accept your concession as soon as you admit you just made it. Again, since the Klan was first founded over 150 years ago, citing some of its behavior from 85 years ago is one would have to say well within range, is it not?

In discussing people's and groups' actions TODAY, citing behavior from 85 years ago, is not within range.

The description of what the values and strategies of the KKK are and have been historically is not limited to an 85-year time frame just to get your faux pas off the hook, nor any other time frame save those outside the time it has existed. DEAL with it.

1. Your denial that liberals are trying to stifle free speech because then they are not liberals is the Logical Fallacy of No True Scotsman, and thus invalid.


2. The strategy of the KKK, today, is not that of 85 years ago. THey are now a powerless fringe.

1. My denial is that you have a clue what you're addledly babbling about with your citations of "Liberals". I've been noting that all along. These are only "Liberals" in the sense that *YOU* have labeled them that, in direct contradiction of what the term means. That ain't on them, it ain't on me, and it ain't on Scotland --- that's on *YOU*.

And don't try to reinvent logical fallacies just so you can run away from it:

If Angus, a Glaswegian, who puts sugar on his porridge, is proposed as a counter-example to the claim “No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge”, the ‘No true Scotsman’ fallacy would run as follows:

(1) Angus puts sugar on his porridge.
(2) No (true) Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.
Therefore:
(3) Angus is not a (true) Scotsman.
Therefore:
(4) Angus is not a counter-example to the claim that no Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.
​

---- this requires a premise that "No true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge". That premise is not proven; it's an opinion.

The definition of Liberal however is not negotiable. It is not an opinion. You don't get to call a mattress a "dog kennel" just because *YOU* can't say "mattress". K?


2. How much "power" the Klan has now or had at any random date is completely irrelevant to its practices and philosophies.

 

[Correll]

Today, the Klan is a powerless fringe.

While the Left is doing things like speech codes.

IN Canada and the UK, it is ILLEGALS to say certain things about gays or muslims. You can be arrested for believing and saying something that liberals don't like.

ANd many liberals here support such controlling shit.

SO, tell me. Do you really care about assholes being controlling. Or was that just something you said, so that you could attack your enemies?

The very concept of Freedom of Expression is the starting point of Liberalism. So anyone you care to cite trying to curb that freedom of expression, is anti-Liberal.

The utter hypocrisy of the modern liberals, and their completely betrayal of what they supposedly stand for, has been discussed many times at length.

Hell, Bill Maher, has discussed it repeatedly.

My point stands, which I supported, stands. It is modern libs that are pushing speech codes and censor ship.

--- Then those you describe as such, cannot be Liberals. Simple as that. What's more, I already pointed this out, repeatedly, here and long before.

And this may come as a shock but I am not Bill Maher. I am also not the queen of Belgium, nor am I any body of broad-brush generalization your tiny mind wishes it could employ because it can't handle individual commentary.

Dafuk is that supposed to be? Screen color test?

The fact that you can't tell the difference and insist on calling something its own opposite, is your problem, not that of the term you're abusing.

The fact that you think that the definition of liberal, trumps the actions of modern liberals, is funny.

People are defined by their actions. Liberals today, are acting in a way opposite to their label.

Then (again, umpteenth time) you have thereupon affixed an erroneous label. And this is twice in the same post it has been necessary to re-state the same truism that existed before we got here.

The world waits for you to figure this out and quit doing it.

Furthermore this thread isn't about Liberals anyway. It's about leftists.

It does not go unnoticed that you're backing away from your own ridiculous misread about time periods and what defines 'fascist' behavior. I'll accept your concession as soon as you admit you just made it. Again, since the Klan was first founded over 150 years ago, citing some of its behavior from 85 years ago is one would have to say well within range, is it not?

In discussing people's and groups' actions TODAY, citing behavior from 85 years ago, is not within range.

The description of what the values and strategies of the KKK are and have been historically is not limited to an 85-year time frame just to get your faux pas off the hook, nor any other time frame save those outside the time it has existed. DEAL with it.

1. Your denial that liberals are trying to stifle free speech because then they are not liberals is the Logical Fallacy of No True Scotsman, and thus invalid.


2. The strategy of the KKK, today, is not that of 85 years ago. THey are now a powerless fringe.

1. My denial is that you have a clue what you're addledly babbling about with your citations of "Liberals". I've been noting that all along. These are only "Liberals" in the sense that *YOU* have labeled them that, in direct contradiction of what the term means. That ain't on them, it ain't on me, and it ain't on Scotland --- that's on *YOU*.

And don't try to reinvent logical fallacies just so you can run away from it:

If Angus, a Glaswegian, who puts sugar on his porridge, is proposed as a counter-example to the claim “No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge”, the ‘No true Scotsman’ fallacy would run as follows:

(1) Angus puts sugar on his porridge.
(2) No (true) Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.
Therefore:
(3) Angus is not a (true) Scotsman.
Therefore:
(4) Angus is not a counter-example to the claim that no Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.
​

---- this requires a premise that "No true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge". That premise is not proven; it's an opinion.

The definition of Liberal however is not negotiable. It is not an opinion. You don't get to call a mattress a "dog kennel" just because *YOU* can't say "mattress". K?

Except that self described liberals, who hold liberal political positions and are widely accepted as liberals, are doing this.

If you have somehow missed this issue, you need to pay more attention

2. How much "power" the Klan has now or had at any random date is completely irrelevant to its practices and philosophies.

Sure it does. It cannot practice any control or censorship, because it has no power.


(I've heard that they have even adjusted their philosophy to deal with their utter powerlessness, but I don't know or care if that is true)

But their actions are certainly different.

 

[Pogo]

The very concept of Freedom of Expression is the starting point of Liberalism. So anyone you care to cite trying to curb that freedom of expression, is anti-Liberal.

The utter hypocrisy of the modern liberals, and their completely betrayal of what they supposedly stand for, has been discussed many times at length.

Hell, Bill Maher, has discussed it repeatedly.

My point stands, which I supported, stands. It is modern libs that are pushing speech codes and censor ship.

--- Then those you describe as such, cannot be Liberals. Simple as that. What's more, I already pointed this out, repeatedly, here and long before.

And this may come as a shock but I am not Bill Maher. I am also not the queen of Belgium, nor am I any body of broad-brush generalization your tiny mind wishes it could employ because it can't handle individual commentary.

Dafuk is that supposed to be? Screen color test?

The fact that you can't tell the difference and insist on calling something its own opposite, is your problem, not that of the term you're abusing.

The fact that you think that the definition of liberal, trumps the actions of modern liberals, is funny.

People are defined by their actions. Liberals today, are acting in a way opposite to their label.

Then (again, umpteenth time) you have thereupon affixed an erroneous label. And this is twice in the same post it has been necessary to re-state the same truism that existed before we got here.

The world waits for you to figure this out and quit doing it.

Furthermore this thread isn't about Liberals anyway. It's about leftists.

It does not go unnoticed that you're backing away from your own ridiculous misread about time periods and what defines 'fascist' behavior. I'll accept your concession as soon as you admit you just made it. Again, since the Klan was first founded over 150 years ago, citing some of its behavior from 85 years ago is one would have to say well within range, is it not?

In discussing people's and groups' actions TODAY, citing behavior from 85 years ago, is not within range.

The description of what the values and strategies of the KKK are and have been historically is not limited to an 85-year time frame just to get your faux pas off the hook, nor any other time frame save those outside the time it has existed. DEAL with it.

1. Your denial that liberals are trying to stifle free speech because then they are not liberals is the Logical Fallacy of No True Scotsman, and thus invalid.


2. The strategy of the KKK, today, is not that of 85 years ago. THey are now a powerless fringe.

1. My denial is that you have a clue what you're addledly babbling about with your citations of "Liberals". I've been noting that all along. These are only "Liberals" in the sense that *YOU* have labeled them that, in direct contradiction of what the term means. That ain't on them, it ain't on me, and it ain't on Scotland --- that's on *YOU*.

And don't try to reinvent logical fallacies just so you can run away from it:

If Angus, a Glaswegian, who puts sugar on his porridge, is proposed as a counter-example to the claim “No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge”, the ‘No true Scotsman’ fallacy would run as follows:

(1) Angus puts sugar on his porridge.
(2) No (true) Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.
Therefore:
(3) Angus is not a (true) Scotsman.
Therefore:
(4) Angus is not a counter-example to the claim that no Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.
​

---- this requires a premise that "No true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge". That premise is not proven; it's an opinion.

The definition of Liberal however is not negotiable. It is not an opinion. You don't get to call a mattress a "dog kennel" just because *YOU* can't say "mattress". K?

Except that self described liberals, who hold liberal political positions and are widely accepted as liberals, are doing this.

If you have somehow missed this issue, you need to pay more attention

I don't "NEED" to "pay" jack shit, Homer. Maybe you "NEED" to link us to where whoever it is we're talking about labels themselves, huh?

2. How much "power" the Klan has now or had at any random date is completely irrelevant to its practices and philosophies.

Sure it does. It cannot practice any control or censorship, because it has no power.

I don't give a flying fuck what it "can" or "cannot" do. The question was about its philosophy. And AGAIN, to what degree it can or cannot execute that philosophy HAS NO BEARING ON WHAT THE FLYING FUCK IT IS.

Furthermore, this claim that "the KKK were never fascist" wasn't your point to begin with. You just jumped into it with all this irrelevant shit.

But their actions are certainly different.

I understand they're "very fine people" now. With Tiki torches taking the place of burning crosses.

 

[Correll]

The utter hypocrisy of the modern liberals, and their completely betrayal of what they supposedly stand for, has been discussed many times at length.

Hell, Bill Maher, has discussed it repeatedly.

My point stands, which I supported, stands. It is modern libs that are pushing speech codes and censor ship.

--- Then those you describe as such, cannot be Liberals. Simple as that. What's more, I already pointed this out, repeatedly, here and long before.

And this may come as a shock but I am not Bill Maher. I am also not the queen of Belgium, nor am I any body of broad-brush generalization your tiny mind wishes it could employ because it can't handle individual commentary.

Dafuk is that supposed to be? Screen color test?

The fact that you think that the definition of liberal, trumps the actions of modern liberals, is funny.

People are defined by their actions. Liberals today, are acting in a way opposite to their label.

Then (again, umpteenth time) you have thereupon affixed an erroneous label. And this is twice in the same post it has been necessary to re-state the same truism that existed before we got here.

The world waits for you to figure this out and quit doing it.

Furthermore this thread isn't about Liberals anyway. It's about leftists.

In discussing people's and groups' actions TODAY, citing behavior from 85 years ago, is not within range.

The description of what the values and strategies of the KKK are and have been historically is not limited to an 85-year time frame just to get your faux pas off the hook, nor any other time frame save those outside the time it has existed. DEAL with it.

1. Your denial that liberals are trying to stifle free speech because then they are not liberals is the Logical Fallacy of No True Scotsman, and thus invalid.


2. The strategy of the KKK, today, is not that of 85 years ago. THey are now a powerless fringe.

1. My denial is that you have a clue what you're addledly babbling about with your citations of "Liberals". I've been noting that all along. These are only "Liberals" in the sense that *YOU* have labeled them that, in direct contradiction of what the term means. That ain't on them, it ain't on me, and it ain't on Scotland --- that's on *YOU*.

And don't try to reinvent logical fallacies just so you can run away from it:

If Angus, a Glaswegian, who puts sugar on his porridge, is proposed as a counter-example to the claim “No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge”, the ‘No true Scotsman’ fallacy would run as follows:

(1) Angus puts sugar on his porridge.
(2) No (true) Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.
Therefore:
(3) Angus is not a (true) Scotsman.
Therefore:
(4) Angus is not a counter-example to the claim that no Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.
​

---- this requires a premise that "No true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge". That premise is not proven; it's an opinion.

The definition of Liberal however is not negotiable. It is not an opinion. You don't get to call a mattress a "dog kennel" just because *YOU* can't say "mattress". K?

Except that self described liberals, who hold liberal political positions and are widely accepted as liberals, are doing this.

If you have somehow missed this issue, you need to pay more attention

I don't "NEED" to "pay" jack shit, Homer. Maybe you "NEED" to link us to where whoever it is we're talking about labels themselves, huh?

2. How much "power" the Klan has now or had at any random date is completely irrelevant to its practices and philosophies.

Sure it does. It cannot practice any control or censorship, because it has no power.

I don't give a flying fuck what it "can" or "cannot" do. The question was about its philosophy. And AGAIN, to what degree it can or cannot execute that philosophy HAS NO BEARING ON WHAT THE FLYING FUCK IT IS.

The question was about practices and actions and behavior and philosophies.

Liberals actions are wildly divergence from their stated philosophies. That makes them terrible hypocrites, but they are still liberals, just hypocritical liberals.



The Klan of today, is a pathetic shadow of when they had actual power. They are incapable of any attempt of the type of actions you were accusing of.

 

[Pogo]

--- Then those you describe as such, cannot be Liberals. Simple as that. What's more, I already pointed this out, repeatedly, here and long before.

And this may come as a shock but I am not Bill Maher. I am also not the queen of Belgium, nor am I any body of broad-brush generalization your tiny mind wishes it could employ because it can't handle individual commentary.

Dafuk is that supposed to be? Screen color test?


Then (again, umpteenth time) you have thereupon affixed an erroneous label. And this is twice in the same post it has been necessary to re-state the same truism that existed before we got here.

The world waits for you to figure this out and quit doing it.

Furthermore this thread isn't about Liberals anyway. It's about leftists.


The description of what the values and strategies of the KKK are and have been historically is not limited to an 85-year time frame just to get your faux pas off the hook, nor any other time frame save those outside the time it has existed. DEAL with it.

1. Your denial that liberals are trying to stifle free speech because then they are not liberals is the Logical Fallacy of No True Scotsman, and thus invalid.


2. The strategy of the KKK, today, is not that of 85 years ago. THey are now a powerless fringe.

1. My denial is that you have a clue what you're addledly babbling about with your citations of "Liberals". I've been noting that all along. These are only "Liberals" in the sense that *YOU* have labeled them that, in direct contradiction of what the term means. That ain't on them, it ain't on me, and it ain't on Scotland --- that's on *YOU*.

And don't try to reinvent logical fallacies just so you can run away from it:

If Angus, a Glaswegian, who puts sugar on his porridge, is proposed as a counter-example to the claim “No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge”, the ‘No true Scotsman’ fallacy would run as follows:

(1) Angus puts sugar on his porridge.
(2) No (true) Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.
Therefore:
(3) Angus is not a (true) Scotsman.
Therefore:
(4) Angus is not a counter-example to the claim that no Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.
​

---- this requires a premise that "No true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge". That premise is not proven; it's an opinion.

The definition of Liberal however is not negotiable. It is not an opinion. You don't get to call a mattress a "dog kennel" just because *YOU* can't say "mattress". K?

Except that self described liberals, who hold liberal political positions and are widely accepted as liberals, are doing this.

If you have somehow missed this issue, you need to pay more attention

I don't "NEED" to "pay" jack shit, Homer. Maybe you "NEED" to link us to where whoever it is we're talking about labels themselves, huh?

2. How much "power" the Klan has now or had at any random date is completely irrelevant to its practices and philosophies.

Sure it does. It cannot practice any control or censorship, because it has no power.

I don't give a flying fuck what it "can" or "cannot" do. The question was about its philosophy. And AGAIN, to what degree it can or cannot execute that philosophy HAS NO BEARING ON WHAT THE FLYING FUCK IT IS.

The question was about practices and actions and behavior and philosophies.

Liberals actions are wildly divergence from their stated philosophies. That makes them terrible hypocrites, but they are still liberals, just hypocritical liberals.

NO Hunior, that's just you calling a mattress a dog kennel and then blaming the mattress. Apparently your game here is to play retard.

The Klan of today, is a pathetic shadow of when they had actual power. They are incapable of any attempt of the type of actions you were accusing of.

Once AGAIN whether any entity is "capable" of something HAS NO BEARING ON WHETHER THEY ADVOCATE IT. "Capability" is not even related to what that philosophy is.

Fucking retard.

 

[RealDave]

So, the Tax Cut Bill that heavily favors the wealthy & corporations is just in my head. Great news. Here I was thinking Trump was directing our money to corporations & rich people like himself. Was it just a dream I had? Or maybe you are too stupid to know it happened?

Trump also is not trying to silence the press's influence with his "Fake News" bullshit that you dipsticks buy.

Trump is not using his powers to undo federal departments like the EPA, Labor laws, safety net programs.

Noooooooooo. None of this shit is happening- at least not in Marty World.

Your first statement has nothing to do with nazis. The Nazis actually capped corporate profits to support the war industry.

Calling the press out is not silencing them. When websites start going down and offices get raided, then you have a point. until then, nope.

Trump is cleaning up departments that have far too many regulations. If you look at the history of Nazi Germany, they were HUGE fans of increased regulations, partly to placate workers, and partly to regulate the war economy.

None of "this shit" has anything to do with Nazism. Unless of course you are one of those room temperature IQ wankers who equate anything you don't like to "Nazi Nazi Nazi!"

rump put his people in charge of the departments to shut down their effectiveness. You think that is not the same as closing them down? Wow Marty, once again you prove yourself dumber than shit.

They are still doing their core jobs, they are just being cleaned up, streamlined, and turned away from bullshit progressive causes and pet projects.

Draining the swamp, motherfucker, deal with it.

Their core job is deactivating them.. Even a dumbass like you knows that is the same as closing them down.,

Yep,. dirtier air, more polluted water, more poisons dumped on our food. All great things Marty. All because the low life piece of shit you elected doesn't think corporations should spend money on those things. All fore corporate profits. I guess you have no children? At least no children you give a shit about.

Regulation is not a black/white issue. Cutting back does not equal removing. Only in your panic-driven partisan hack mind does that concept have to apply so you can work yourself up into a lather.

Show me where what Trump is doing will lead to these things, be specific. Things like the new mercury regulations made the standards too stringent at too high a cost, and had negligible actual benefits.

Shall I report you for bringing family into the discussion?

And really, cut the fake outrage about your family. Your poor artturtude towrd furture generations iswell,documented in your posts.

The very concept of Freedom of Expression is the starting point of Liberalism. So anyone you care to cite trying to curb that freedom of expression, is anti-Liberal.

The utter hypocrisy of the modern liberals, and their completely betrayal of what they supposedly stand for, has been discussed many times at length.


Hell, Bill Maher, has discussed it repeatedly.


My point stands, which I supported, stands. It is modern libs that are pushing speech codes and censor ship.

The fact that you can't tell the difference and insist on calling something its own opposite, is your problem, not that of the term you're abusing.

The fact that you think that the definition of liberal, trumps the actions of modern liberals, is funny.


People are defined by their actions. Liberals today, are acting in a way opposite to their label.

It is hard to credit that you are unaware of this.

It does not go unnoticed that you're backing away from your own ridiculous misread about time periods and what defines 'fascist' behavior. I'll accept your concession as soon as you admit you just made it. Again, since the Klan was first founded over 150 years ago, citing some of its behavior from 85 years ago is one would have to say well within range, is it not?

In discussing people's and groups' actions TODAY, citing behavior from 85 years ago, is not within range.

You dipsticks bitching about freedom of speech is just too funny..

The push towards censorship from the left is no joke.



.

You want to be able to use racial slurs & make bigoted posts, lie, & call people names . You called it not being politically correct..

Fuck you, you filthy liar.

.

No one is stopping you..

Tell it to any number of conservatives speakers, who have been prevented from speaking by violent lefty mobs, and their collaborators in administration and local politics. And be prepared to be laughed at like the moron you are.

It is you idiots that are crying when a liberal calls you out on your speech.

Your lies aren't fooling anyone, liar.

You want to spew your bullshit without repercussion.

You are the one spewing bullshit, lefty, and everyone knows it.

I have the freedom of speech to comment on your crap. Don't like it? Too fucking bad.

Nothing I have ever said, gives you a reason to think that I don't support your right to Free Speech.


That is just you being a liar.

Your claim that the left is trying to censor you morons. How? All I see if the left calling out you hste spewing Trumpettes.

Mobs rioting, protesters shouting so much that a speech is impossible, pulling fire alarms,

ALL with the local alumni working with them at varying degrees of deniability, demanding massive fees for "security" while not providing any, or just denying access to the campus,

while local cops are ordered by local dem politicians to stand down to let the violent lefty mobs attack.


For starters.


Do you need specific examples of the above? Or are you completely aware of it, and won't waste my time asking for shit you know all about?

Please. We certainly know that Republicans have never shouted down speakers. Well at least in Trump world.

How about when an attendee at a Trump rally, gets the shit beat out of them & Trump offers to pay their legal fees?

Don't pretend that you Republican Trump lovers never ever do the same shit.

 

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1. Your denial that liberals are trying to stifle free speech because then they are not liberals is the Logical Fallacy of No True Scotsman, and thus invalid.


2. The strategy of the KKK, today, is not that of 85 years ago. THey are now a powerless fringe.

1. My denial is that you have a clue what you're addledly babbling about with your citations of "Liberals". I've been noting that all along. These are only "Liberals" in the sense that *YOU* have labeled them that, in direct contradiction of what the term means. That ain't on them, it ain't on me, and it ain't on Scotland --- that's on *YOU*.

And don't try to reinvent logical fallacies just so you can run away from it:

If Angus, a Glaswegian, who puts sugar on his porridge, is proposed as a counter-example to the claim “No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge”, the ‘No true Scotsman’ fallacy would run as follows:

(1) Angus puts sugar on his porridge.
(2) No (true) Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.
Therefore:
(3) Angus is not a (true) Scotsman.
Therefore:
(4) Angus is not a counter-example to the claim that no Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.
​

---- this requires a premise that "No true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge". That premise is not proven; it's an opinion.

The definition of Liberal however is not negotiable. It is not an opinion. You don't get to call a mattress a "dog kennel" just because *YOU* can't say "mattress". K?

Except that self described liberals, who hold liberal political positions and are widely accepted as liberals, are doing this.

If you have somehow missed this issue, you need to pay more attention

I don't "NEED" to "pay" jack shit, Homer. Maybe you "NEED" to link us to where whoever it is we're talking about labels themselves, huh?

2. How much "power" the Klan has now or had at any random date is completely irrelevant to its practices and philosophies.

Sure it does. It cannot practice any control or censorship, because it has no power.

I don't give a flying fuck what it "can" or "cannot" do. The question was about its philosophy. And AGAIN, to what degree it can or cannot execute that philosophy HAS NO BEARING ON WHAT THE FLYING FUCK IT IS.

The question was about practices and actions and behavior and philosophies.

Liberals actions are wildly divergence from their stated philosophies. That makes them terrible hypocrites, but they are still liberals, just hypocritical liberals.

NO Hunior, that's just you calling a mattress a dog kennel and then blaming the mattress. Apparently your game here is to play retard.

The Klan of today, is a pathetic shadow of when they had actual power. They are incapable of any attempt of the type of actions you were accusing of.

Once AGAIN whether any entity is "capable" of something HAS NO BEARING ON WHETHER THEY ADVOCATE IT. "Capability" is not even related to what that philosophy is.

Fucking retard.

Here is the timeline for the Berkeley riots of 2017. Follow it, you can see how the liberals alumni, local dems, and violent street liberals all work together to shut down speech they don't like.


2017 Berkeley protests - Wikipedia


"On February 1, Milo Yiannopoulos was scheduled to make a speech at the University of California, Berkeley at 8:00 pm. Prior, more than 100 UC Berkeley faculty signed a petition urging the university to cancel the event"


"Over 1,500 people gathered on the steps of Sproul Hall to protest the event. The university had been a non-violent, student gathering until a group of 150 black bloc protestors slowly entered the crowd and interrupted the protest.[4][3] The interrupting protesters, which included Antifa activists and some who identified themselves as members of the left-wing group By Any Means Necessary,[5][6] set fires, damaged property, threw fireworks, attacked members of the crowd, and threw rocks at the police.[3] Within twenty minutes of the start of the violence, the Yiannopoulos event was officially canceled by the university police department due to security concerns,"


"Among those assaulted were a Syrian Muslim, who was pepper sprayed and hit with a rod by a protester who said "You look like a Nazi" "


"Also during the event a former Diablo Valley College professor allegedly attacked three protesters with a bike lock, hitting them on the head and causing "significant injuries". He was subsequently arrested on three counts of assault with a deadly weapon."



"On April 18, 2017 administrators at UC Berkeley canceled a planned April 27 appearance on the campus by conservative columnist Ann Coulter, citing safety concerns. Coulter tweeted on April 19 that she would be coming to Berkeley to speak on that date regardless.[29][30] On April 20, the University stated that they would host Coulter on May 2 at a "protected venue" that would be disclosed at a later date.[31] Coulter declined to reschedule, noting that she was unavailable on May 2 and that UC Berkeley had no classes scheduled for that week, and said she would hold her speech on April 27 with or without the university's consent. "



"The counter-protest was initially peaceful until about 100 masked black-clad anti-fascists carrying shields and sticks broke through police lines, bypassing security checks. The Berkeley police chief had ordered his officers to abandon the park, arguing that confronting the antifa activists would have led to more violence.[42] The masked protesters targeted the small number of right-wing activists attending the announced rally, in some cases pepper-spraying and chasing them away, or beating them"


"Anti-fascists threatened to break the cameras of journalists who recorded them"


"Berkeley Mayor Jesse Arreguin asked UC Berkeley in August 2017 to cancel conservatives’ speech plans slated for September 24–27 in prevention of violent civil unrest"


"Prior to the slated event, some students members of Berkeley Patriot filed a complaint with to the U.S. Department of Justice alleging, among other things, that the university had "arbitrary and irrational bureaucratic hurdles on student groups which seek to exercise their First Amendment rights by holding public debates."[59]"


"On September 24, Yiannopoulos, Cernovich and Geller arrived outside Sproul Hall and Yiannopoulos spoke very briefly without a sound system and sang the U.S. national anthem.[64] Hundreds of protesters and supporters surrounded the police barricades that were erected that morning around Sproul Plaza. Attendees were permitted into the plaza only after passing through a single metal detector; approximately 150 people saw Yiannopoulos speak, while hundreds more waited in line."


"Following the February 1 protest, a lawyer representing a local police union criticized the police administration for their "hands off" policy which prevented officers from preventing crime or making arrests."


"In January 2018, four people who were attacked while trying to attend a speech due to be given Yiannopoulos filed a federal civil-rights lawsuit against the University of California, Berkeley. The lawsuit alleged that campus and city officials failed to prepare for the rioting despite sufficient warning, and as a result would-be attendees were left vulnerable to assault by left-wing protest groups."

 

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Your first statement has nothing to do with nazis. The Nazis actually capped corporate profits to support the war industry.

Calling the press out is not silencing them. When websites start going down and offices get raided, then you have a point. until then, nope.

Trump is cleaning up departments that have far too many regulations. If you look at the history of Nazi Germany, they were HUGE fans of increased regulations, partly to placate workers, and partly to regulate the war economy.

None of "this shit" has anything to do with Nazism. Unless of course you are one of those room temperature IQ wankers who equate anything you don't like to "Nazi Nazi Nazi!"

rump put his people in charge of the departments to shut down their effectiveness. You think that is not the same as closing them down? Wow Marty, once again you prove yourself dumber than shit.

They are still doing their core jobs, they are just being cleaned up, streamlined, and turned away from bullshit progressive causes and pet projects.

Draining the swamp, motherfucker, deal with it.

Their core job is deactivating them.. Even a dumbass like you knows that is the same as closing them down.,

Yep,. dirtier air, more polluted water, more poisons dumped on our food. All great things Marty. All because the low life piece of shit you elected doesn't think corporations should spend money on those things. All fore corporate profits. I guess you have no children? At least no children you give a shit about.

Regulation is not a black/white issue. Cutting back does not equal removing. Only in your panic-driven partisan hack mind does that concept have to apply so you can work yourself up into a lather.

Show me where what Trump is doing will lead to these things, be specific. Things like the new mercury regulations made the standards too stringent at too high a cost, and had negligible actual benefits.

Shall I report you for bringing family into the discussion?

And really, cut the fake outrage about your family. Your poor artturtude towrd furture generations iswell,documented in your posts.

The utter hypocrisy of the modern liberals, and their completely betrayal of what they supposedly stand for, has been discussed many times at length.


Hell, Bill Maher, has discussed it repeatedly.


My point stands, which I supported, stands. It is modern libs that are pushing speech codes and censor ship.

The fact that you think that the definition of liberal, trumps the actions of modern liberals, is funny.


People are defined by their actions. Liberals today, are acting in a way opposite to their label.

It is hard to credit that you are unaware of this.



In discussing people's and groups' actions TODAY, citing behavior from 85 years ago, is not within range.

You dipsticks bitching about freedom of speech is just too funny..

The push towards censorship from the left is no joke.



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You want to be able to use racial slurs & make bigoted posts, lie, & call people names . You called it not being politically correct..

Fuck you, you filthy liar.

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No one is stopping you..

Tell it to any number of conservatives speakers, who have been prevented from speaking by violent lefty mobs, and their collaborators in administration and local politics. And be prepared to be laughed at like the moron you are.

It is you idiots that are crying when a liberal calls you out on your speech.

Your lies aren't fooling anyone, liar.

You want to spew your bullshit without repercussion.

You are the one spewing bullshit, lefty, and everyone knows it.

I have the freedom of speech to comment on your crap. Don't like it? Too fucking bad.

Nothing I have ever said, gives you a reason to think that I don't support your right to Free Speech.


That is just you being a liar.

Your claim that the left is trying to censor you morons. How? All I see if the left calling out you hste spewing Trumpettes.

Mobs rioting, protesters shouting so much that a speech is impossible, pulling fire alarms,

ALL with the local alumni working with them at varying degrees of deniability, demanding massive fees for "security" while not providing any, or just denying access to the campus,

while local cops are ordered by local dem politicians to stand down to let the violent lefty mobs attack.


For starters.


Do you need specific examples of the above? Or are you completely aware of it, and won't waste my time asking for shit you know all about?

Please. We certainly know that Republicans have never shouted down speakers. Well at least in Trump world.

How about when an attendee at a Trump rally, gets the shit beat out of them & Trump offers to pay their legal fees?

Don't pretend that you Republican Trump lovers never ever do the same shit.

Not really.


Show me the pictures of liberals not being able to speak because of the rioting mob burning shit.

Show me the pictures of the police being told to stand down and let the conservative mob attack the liberals and shut down their speech.